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Persona should be called

You know, I like's me some deep-thoughts 'bout my Persona, but there are times in life when it's okay to be about as deep as a kiddie pool. This is one of those times.

The men -- more specifically the main men -- of Persona are not just wildcards, but pimps of the highest order. No others have been able to capture so many of the most well-developed (and well-developed) female characters in the JRPG space. They stand tall above the pitifully mild-mannered milquetoasts and amnesiac angst-factories of lesser RPGs, harem anime, and eroge. Deserving of particular recognition are the protagonists of Persona 3 and Persona 4.

Glower then in disgust and envy, my fellow RONERY PEOPLE, as we profile these paragons of smooth operation, infinite potential and male accomplishment, the douchebag princes of Pimp-sona.


Note: I've tried to keep this as spoiler-free as humanly possible, and it's nothing you don't already know if you've ever read a cast roll.

Persona 3 Guy:

What He Looks Like:

Persona 3's lead ladykiller is easy to underestimate. He's short (second-shortest male in the game), with noodle-thin limbs straight from the CLAMP school of character design, and has that whole hair-covers-one-eye thing going. That passive look is only amplified by his expensive Audio-Technica earphones (they're real).

His manga adaptation portrays him as somewhat lackadaisical and sleepy, which is probably refreshing for Persona 3's serious, tightly wound female cast.

Why He's An Enviable Pimptastic Jerk:

Apparently, having a backbreaking slouch and being a frickin' mute equate to an aura of mystery, which is the source of his power. With that in mind, Persona 3's hero is just like a fart -- silent, but deadly.

How deadly? In Persona 3 he managed to date no less than SIX women, almost simultaneously! MMO friends, faculty, classmates, seniors, freshmen, paranormal elevator attendants, and androids who aren't even anatomically correct, nothing even vaguely female-shaped (just like himself, durr hurr) was safe.

Persona 4 Guy:

What He Looks Like:

Persona 4's head heartbreaker seems purpose-built for the task. He's tall (second tallest character in the game), lean, and totally rocks Yasogami High's traditional Gakuran-style uniform. His manga adaptation is often nicknamed "banchou" (gang leader).

He'd be a villain/rival character in nearly any other anime setup, an ice-cold, silver-haired hawk, perfect foil to the hot-blooded protagonist. Everyone who thought that Akihiko looked cooler than Persona 3 Guy (or had the patience to watch the Trinity Soul anime) was rewarded with Persona 4 Guy's character design.

Why He's An Enviable Pimptastic Jerk:

Why isn't he enviable?! He's tall, wears cool uniform, has a walking animation straight out of Esquire, and hangs out with a fox that deals in "special healing leaves". Even his persona Izanagi looks bitchin', complete with cool coat and giant metallic codpiece. Plus, he's got SEVEN women to woo, and nice glasses to wear when he wants to look even cooler. He's like the Power Glove, so bad.

In conclusion, we hate and envy these two jerks. But the last question on our minds is: who would win in a pimp-off?

BOSS-MAN BATTLE P3 VS. P4 PIMP-OFF READY FIGHT

Right off the bat Persona 4 Guy claims the early advantage. His appeal is more straightforward and universal. Much as we might think, not every young person in Japan prefers the effeminate feathered-hair fops that infest its host clubs, music videos and Tetsuya Nomura art books. Persona 4 Guy doesn't even need a particularly complex design to distinguish himself. All he really has to do is keep his school jacket open and voila, no expensive earphones needed.

And with the simpler, more versatile design, he can adopt any attitude he needs to get things going. He's playing against type by working the "Family Man" angle with possibly the most adorable child in gaming (see below), or rolling deep as the whole crew's founder and leader. By comparison Persona 3 Guy was only elected leader by virtue of talent.


He also benefits greatly from Persona 4's mechanical improvements and change in setting. As mentioned above, Persona 4 Guy is a big fish in a small pond. From day one he impresses everyone but King Moron just by being "from the Big City". He can cook well, run multiple jobs, and doesn't have to get tired just running one big, boring dungeon, working in the day rather than at midnight.

Persona 4 Guy also has extra time to ingratiate himself with the community, performing fetch quests aplenty and answering Funky Student's riddles. Furthermore, he has no effective competition to deal with. Of all his potential rivals, one is stuck on the rebound, the other is "confused", and yet another is "bear-ly" human. The only guy that could conceivably put up a fight ... well ... isn't.


All is not lost for Persona 3 Guy, however, for he's got his own advantages to exploit. An aura of destiny and a mysterious background makes for powerful, plot-rooted leverage. The mysterious, unknown background helps, too. When no one knows what to expect of you, anything you do is surprising and satisfying. At all times, Persona 3 Guy is the unknown quantity. He's a junior student, so those above him are surprised at his maturity and superpowers, and those below are instantly awed by the way he runs around with his hands in his pockets all the time.

Hipster city life is grinding and aloof. All it takes is a fresh face to turn frowns upside down, which is what happened when Persona 3 Guy slouched into Gekkoukan High School. Persona 3 Guy's competition was formidable, but to his fortune, voluntarily out of the game. One's got his own fan club to deal with, another is taken, and the third is young enough to be worried about catching cooties from icky girls.

He's also got connections. Does Persona 4 Guy go to school with the heir to the world's biggest conglomerate? Does he attend class at a giant white palace that the hayseeds come and admire on their field trips? Does he dorm with everyone he courts? He also plays the violin, which has to be worth something. Persona 4 Guy's stuck in the boonies with drama class and the marching band. Woo-frickin'-hoo.


In battle, Persona 3 Guy can use any weapon type and can multitask well enough to send his companions out on their own to find loot, staircases and enemies to grind on. He's also way more courageous. Anyone can smack a burning tarot card, but who has the balls to shoot himself in the head over and over again?

But then again, this is a pimp-off, not a deathmatch. Like buying a luxury car, it comes down to options, and in the end, Persona 4 Guy's got more thereof. He's got seven out-and-out S.Link highlights, while Persona 3 Guy counts but six. Even if you grab the inference-and-implication dial and crank it up to eleven, Persona 3 Guy only hits eight, while Persona 4 Guy's counter skyrockets to an astounding TEN. You'd need a time machine to keep that going!



Overall, the final judgment falls in favor of Persona 4 Guy. Both still rule over all would-be JRPG man-whores, but the silver-haired dandy from the Big City sits atop the throne. It's a good thing they're just avatars for the player, else we'd be kind of stupid for genuinely hating and envying fictional characters! Now -- technically -- we hate and envy ourselves, which is totally acceptable in modern society.

Hit the gallery for pictures of what those two pimptastic jerks would have stolen from us, were they not merely our "shadow selves"!

*If you have ever read anything I've written, you'll know that this entire article is an elaborate front for me to engage a Persona image dump. I have no regrets!*

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43 comments | showing # 1 to 43

Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 12:07
Aurain
Akihiko X Naoto?

You sick fuck.
Bulkmailer's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 12:19
Bulkmailer
So true! After playing Persona 4 I started the 3rd game and I'm having trouble getting into it because the dude is too damn emo looking.
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 12:23
Josh Tolentino
@Bulkmailer

He might look emo, but given his presentation he's actually quite the opposite.
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 13:25
A New Challenger
Haha, I felt kinda bad taking other girls out after getting to rank 10 with Chihiro, but she didn't seem to mind so I decided to go for it (Connect 4!) These Priestess arcana aren't going to level up themselves!

The MMO link was hilarious.
Colette Bennett's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 13:32
Colette Bennett
I wouldn't kick either of em out of bed. ^__^
FalconReaper's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 15:31
FalconReaper
Oh what I'd give to be a pimp
Zodiac Eclipse's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 16:32
Zodiac Eclipse
I have got to play these games. The shear amount of pimpnacity is drawing me in.
garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 22:02
garison
haha what a great post, Unangbangkay!

You and your Persona :P
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 12:02
Gen Eric Gui
Naoto is such a sexy lady <3 <3 <3

Huh? What were you talking about?
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2009 12:15
Naim Master
Japanese cartoon porn FTW !
Dale North's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2009 13:39
Dale North
best post ever
ArcticFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 15:11
ArcticFox
I loved this blog the first time I read it. I still love it. Though I liked the P3 protagonist a little better, if only because Im not through 4 yet :P

Great article unangbangkay!
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 15:17
Magnalon
I haven't played a Persona past 2, and with a recently c-blog contest, I was hoping I'd win 3:FES.

I need to get this eventually...Great blog!
Chibi_Zero's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 15:26
Chibi_Zero
A New Challenger: Agreed, The MMO link had me laughing when I put all the pieces together. I wish P4 had one like it...
Ben PerLee's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 15:26
Ben PerLee
wait. who is the faculty he can date? Also, the nerd girl in P3 is so damn annoying, I want her to leave me alone.
Ben PerLee's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 15:30
Ben PerLee
Also: GameStop is selling used copies of P3 for really cheap. Like $20 cheap. Thanks to FES, it's hella easy to get. It's a fucking LONG game, but really, it's a must buy.
Half left's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 15:41
Half left
New low.

New low.
PrinnyMedic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 16:07
PrinnyMedic
these games are great each play through I had one differnt girlfriend
in real life to heheh (not really, let me dream damn it!)
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 16:08
RAB
pimpin is actually alot easier than many have been led to believe
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 16:51
Cowboy TTop
The Persona games are great, but I do get tired of the androsquad, these perfect specimens of maleness, that look like women, so the population of japan can feel safe in their insecurities and sell more cosplay stuff to more people.

Only jrpg with decent characters is Front Mission, where they are actual ADULTS and NOT ANDRO EMOs.

If these boys are too pimping for you, try the jap dating sims instead and get your yaoi fix. Lol.
Slique's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 17:22
Slique
I've been watching the GiantBomb Persona 4 Endurance Run avidly for the past 10 weeks, so I'm woefully biased towards Persona 4 guy (or Charlie, as he's now forever known inside my head).

Great article, anywho!
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 17:29
Gen Eric Gui
Ben PerLee: It's a spoiler.



He can date the homeroom teacher via the internets.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 17:30
Wedge
Wow, you managed to find an excuse to "legitimately" post a ton of Persona cheesecake AND get it frontpaged. Bravo.
Palidi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 17:35
Palidi
I don't understand this blog or the evaluation system you used. That being said, I like the results so all is good.

Also, should give the P4 main character some bonus points for being able to make glasses look sick as hell.
nintendoll's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 17:39
nintendoll
Nice fanservice gallery, lol.

Good read though :D
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 20:53
Dan CiTi
I don't remember the option to date the MMO S. Link chick. I think Funky Student is the smoothest fella in the whole series.

Also Chie is the best, don't deny it.
The Nesta's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 21:07
The Nesta
Awesome article, even better gallery. I still like Persona 3 guy more, but both dudes are certainly pimps.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 22:09
Black Nexus
I need to get farther in these games.
Loogibot's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 22:19
Loogibot
OH! I really do need to get these games! Great post, Unangbankay!
ikiryou's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 22:36
ikiryou
Awesome post as always. I'm with everyone who said Chie was the best streetwalker...er.. character *whistles nonchalantly*. Persona 4 Guy has an awesome team of hoes at his disposal.
deiga-the-semivaliant's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/25/2009 23:35
deiga-the-semivaliant
Funny thing about my playthru of Persona 4...

I'm a stickler for uniformity, so I always give the protagonists some Japanese name in order to not stick out during dialogue. So, I chose to name him after the Industrial Designer, Naoto Fukasawa... whoops. If I had read the instruction manual, maybe I would have realized there was another (female) character with the same name. Now, half way into the thing, I have two Naoto's running around. Great.
admiralsandwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/26/2009 00:30
admiralsandwich
Funny you mention the uniformity thing Deiga haha, it reminds me of my P4 protagonist. I named him Shinjiru, after one of my fiction characters, but for some reason I gave him a Western surname...like Adamsson but I think it was Williamson. Or Adama (nerd cred ftw.) I don't remember.
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/26/2009 01:46
Josh Tolentino
@Cowboy TTop

Huh? Neither of the aforementioned characters is emo, and only one is andro. The Persona games are set in high school, which means that the main cast is generally young (having fully realized adults kinda defeats the whole identity-search concept), and I doubt that people feel particularly reassured that there are fictional characters around that are much more perfect than them, and are nigh-impossible to emulate in cosplay. Furthermore, "safe in insecurity" is a contradiction in terms. That said, the leads of Front Mission 3, the best known portion of the series, are quite hot-blooded and emo themselves. I understand your perspective, but please don't troll.
Faust2814's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/26/2009 01:53
Faust2814
Is the third guy in the header image the one from trinity soul ?
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/26/2009 02:05
Josh Tolentino
@Faust2814

Yes. The header was shopped from a poster advertising a live performance of music from P3, P4, and Trinity Soul.
Faust2814's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/26/2009 06:12
Faust2814
That's what I thought, but his hair looks gray in the image so I wasn't sure.
SyntaxError's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/26/2009 08:37
SyntaxError
DAMN! I gotta get off my arse and play Persona 4 and Persona 3: FES! My PS2 is gathering dust beneath our TV.

Way cool article. I always found your articles leaning on the serious side, so it's quite a refreshing change of pace. That, AND IT'S PERSONA! YOU CAN'T HAVE TOO MUCH PERSONA!
Jon2309's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/26/2009 10:08
Jon2309
So wait, is the blue haired person male or female? Christ I can't tell. Only just found out his name is Naoto...
The-Excel's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/26/2009 21:54
The-Excel
I read a theory that the protagonists are horrorble in bed, which is why Social Links with female characters that involve you-know-what grind to a halt after Rank-10. What do you think of that?
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/26/2009 23:47
Chronic Logic
I am amazed that the guys actually have the time to fight considering how much ass they could get if they tried.
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/27/2009 01:37
Josh Tolentino
@The-Excel

That theory is born solely of angry rumormongering. You can still spend time with the girls following a max-out, which still uses up your afternoon time period. Dating people use up their afternoons for all kinds of things, which would include activities out of bed. Plus, if they were horrible, the S.Links would reverse immediately after maxing out.
whatisdelicious's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/18/2009 15:18
whatisdelicious
Great article. Totally awesome.
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