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wow. That is epically lame. He wants to come up with a better excuse. He could use the hadron collider one. Letting eveyone plays as peach would destroy the universe's past and future so by the fact of our existence we must exist in a universe where there is no Peach action on the Wii.
Are they fucking kidding? All the fucking money they're making and they decide to skimp out on us because it would have needed extra programming? Look at that game, it could be on the fucking DS!
Oh well. I'll still get the game, but that's a lame ass excuse.
Oh well. I'll still get the game, but that's a lame ass excuse.
I'm sorry, any developer capable of making NSMBWii is more than capable of making proper dress physics. Or, hey, just use a static dress which would require no additional programming!
Considering that the game itself is a DS port, I find it hard to believe that the Wii cant handle a little extra data such as a flowing dress skirt.
That's... The lamest fucking excuse I've ever heard in my life, actually.
He says they're pushing the Wii with this game, but they can't make Peaches dress a little wavy? Seriously? How'd they do it in Smash Bros., then?
He says they're pushing the Wii with this game, but they can't make Peaches dress a little wavy? Seriously? How'd they do it in Smash Bros., then?
special processing and programming?
Scoping out the playable characters and what it will take to implement them should be a very early decision made in the project. That's a pretty cheap move to keep your margins high ;)
Scoping out the playable characters and what it will take to implement them should be a very early decision made in the project. That's a pretty cheap move to keep your margins high ;)
I always thought the reason was that Peach's pink wouldn't match the R-B-G-Y color scheme the game is slathered with. If anything, that would have been as good an excuse as skirt physics.
Let me fix that
Miyamoto:
"we didn't add the princess because it was so much easier to do a palette swap in one of the toads!"
Ok, now I believe you!
Miyamoto:
"we didn't add the princess because it was so much easier to do a palette swap in one of the toads!"
Ok, now I believe you!
They could not include Peach because all of the required amounts of red needed to create a pink dress were slathered across the boxart.
Only after 15 comments somebody connected the dots. Peach's main difference is here ability to float around, I can see how that could break the game not only in single player, but especially in multiplayer co-op.
After reading the original quote, I think he may be jerking us around:
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/10/shigeru-miyamoto/
Wired.com: Why isn’t Princess Peach a playable character in New Super Mario Bros. Wii?
Miyamoto: Well, originally I thought it would be nice to have Princess Peach in there as a playable character, but in fact, the Toad characters have a physique that’s a little bit closer to Mario and Luigi. And in particular if we had one character out of the four that wore a dress, we would have to have a special programming to handle how the skirt is handled in the gameplay (laughs).
And that’s the only reason that Princess Peach is not there. Of course, if we had Wario in there, we’d have to program him to fart.
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/10/shigeru-miyamoto/
Wired.com: Why isn’t Princess Peach a playable character in New Super Mario Bros. Wii?
Miyamoto: Well, originally I thought it would be nice to have Princess Peach in there as a playable character, but in fact, the Toad characters have a physique that’s a little bit closer to Mario and Luigi. And in particular if we had one character out of the four that wore a dress, we would have to have a special programming to handle how the skirt is handled in the gameplay (laughs).
And that’s the only reason that Princess Peach is not there. Of course, if we had Wario in there, we’d have to program him to fart.
its a shame to hear that the development team just couldn't get off their ass and get around to it. I'm not asking for peach. Daisy would have worked fine for Yellow toad.
pretty lame that the greatest developer of all time couldn't put a character in because he would have to develop coding for the dress. also, peach has been known to wear shorts (Mario Superstars Baseball/Tennis) why wouldn't a globe trekking peach wear shorts or pants on an expedition.
I'll probably pass on this game until a cheap price drop. If they can't be bothered with doing a bit of extra work to add some character to the game then I can't be bothered paying $50 for it when A Boy and His Blob is $40 and that just screams character.
pretty lame that the greatest developer of all time couldn't put a character in because he would have to develop coding for the dress. also, peach has been known to wear shorts (Mario Superstars Baseball/Tennis) why wouldn't a globe trekking peach wear shorts or pants on an expedition.
I'll probably pass on this game until a cheap price drop. If they can't be bothered with doing a bit of extra work to add some character to the game then I can't be bothered paying $50 for it when A Boy and His Blob is $40 and that just screams character.
It's because she can float, that's why she wasn't added. Also, she was probably kidnapped or some shit.
I think, perhaps, they wanted to set proper expectations as to how each character plays. More than likely, everyone controls exactly the same. Adding in a slender female with a history of floating around everywhere would lead to level design changes and the perception that she should have different attributes from the others (btw, Toad's SMB2 speed is less obvious than floating).
And let's be honest: you are going to have to rescue the cockteasing bitch just like in the DS/NES/SNES/N64/Wii versions (Rosalina counts!). So, playing as her would lead to a black hole on par with dividing by zero (or they want to keep humor like that for Paper Mario 3.)
And let's be honest: you are going to have to rescue the cockteasing bitch just like in the DS/NES/SNES/N64/Wii versions (Rosalina counts!). So, playing as her would lead to a black hole on par with dividing by zero (or they want to keep humor like that for Paper Mario 3.)
She could always wears pants. Of course, by that time they'll think they have to do something about the crown, too.
@ koehler83
Wario would have been cool, but I don't think he would fit in with the story like the other four. And yes, 2 generic toads is a stupid cop out. For all the original levels this new game will have, it will have 2 GENERIC toads as the stars, and Mario and Luigi.
Wario would have been cool, but I don't think he would fit in with the story like the other four. And yes, 2 generic toads is a stupid cop out. For all the original levels this new game will have, it will have 2 GENERIC toads as the stars, and Mario and Luigi.
Mr. Miyamoto, I call horse shit.
Well, if you had to throw us two Toads could they have, at the very lest, made them be Toad and Toadette. Damn.
Well, if you had to throw us two Toads could they have, at the very lest, made them be Toad and Toadette. Damn.
They could always make peaches dress magically resistant to upskirts, or you can adorably make her hold her skirt down during jumps.
So, if Peach gets kidnapped and the guys have to rescue her from Bowser, how the hell was she supposed to be a playable character??? I think that's the reasonable explanation everybody's looking for :P
Don't really care about Peach, but two toads is weird. I'd feel like I was left out if I had to play one of the two identical characters while two of my friends I'm playing with get the iconic Mario and Luigi. They should've put a step forward for gay rights and made the fourth char Birdo.
As much as his reason sounds stupid, lots of you are stupid too.
It would only mean more development time and debugging > time = money.
Yes they make sh/tloads of money, but each project has its own budget and you cant fill it up just because they have money.
And since its for one character it seems logical they left it out to keep their development ongoing and finished on time.
Most of you don't even know what programming is about or how energy consuming it can be.
Although Toadette would have been awesome though D=
It would only mean more development time and debugging > time = money.
Yes they make sh/tloads of money, but each project has its own budget and you cant fill it up just because they have money.
And since its for one character it seems logical they left it out to keep their development ongoing and finished on time.
Most of you don't even know what programming is about or how energy consuming it can be.
Although Toadette would have been awesome though D=
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