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PC FPS market feeling the atomic heat photo

For me, tracking games sales is just as fun as actually playing games -- I can impress friends with "I told you so, this game kicks balls!" or, my favorite "I told you so, this game bites balls"! For those of you who share my passion, here's some shocking news.

Crysis, the absolutely stellar first-person shooter on the PC, didn't break 100K units in the first two weeks of sales. Even more shocking, Unreal Tournament 3 on PC sold less than 35K units in its first two weeks. Some folks have already chimed in on why they think this is the case, but here's my take, which (BTW), is the only take that matters.

As long as you can accept that I used voodoo and an Ouija board in my scientific analysis ...

Clearly, gaming quality and marketing hype weren't the culprits here, but rather competition. But the competition I'm talking here isn't other FPS games on the PC, or even PC games in general. It's the console market that is starting to gain ground in the FPS category.

What makes this so titillating (a word I've been dying to use all week, so thanks for the moment) to think about is that PC gaming champions have always touted how they are able to compete with the console market. People cite the edge in technology, a more mature and older gaming audience, and more responsive controls with the keyboard and mouse.

But you see, Little Tommy (the console FPS), once the 90-pound weakling who always got his lunch money taken by the big bully (the PC FPS), has suddenly grown 10 inches over the summer. He took a couple of 'roid pills, and is now delivering an atomic wedgie on said bully of yesteryear. FPS games on the console are suddenly just as amazing, if not more amazing, than the ones you see on the PC now. Not to mention a number of exclusives you can't find on PC yet. With the average age of next-gen console gamers reaching towards the average age of PC gamers (which is over 30-years old), you've got PC gamers migrating to these hot consoles for some of their gaming habits.

But PC fanboys shouldn't just feel like they got slighted. It's only natural in the evolution of things. At least for now, the console market still can't touch real-time strategy games and MMORPGs, which are the other two biggest genres that the PC clearly dominates. RTS gaming just feels to cumbersome with a joystick, and MMORPGs have too many commands that it would be difficult to whittle those down to just a joystick.

Feel safe. For now.
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Dr. Boa may sound like someone who starred in some porn with Dirk Diggler, but his true passion is interactive entertainment. He's notched +15 years in the gaming industry from QA to launching several big hits, so he's got a healthy perspective on what goes on from the flipside. It's amazing he's not a jaded cynic yet. He's finally glad to see more drug filled parties with playboy bunnies and B level celebs like all other entertainment fields. Yes, gaming has finally made it.


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Rbj's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 06:41
Rbj
Who the hell is Dr Boa!? Love the pic though.
Ocified-Xboxer's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 06:49
Ocified-Xboxer
PC games are an utter headache. When you can have a game look like Gears of War and Bioshock, that look amazing and play great without having to pony up money to upgrade your rig, and the software is optimized for the hardware exactly is a big thing. No installation, No checking for 'Minimum requirements', just plug and play.
ajaxender's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 06:56
ajaxender
Crysis was never going to sell well to start with. The simple, obvious reason is that its system requirements are extremely high for performance anywhere near whats been advertised. I think it will sell fairly well over time, as people upgrade and think, "Now i can give crysis a go!". Heck, a lot of people are starting to build computers that specifically can run crysis well, for bragging rights, even if they dont intend to actually play it.

As for ut3, i think it wont sell well because its a lot like 2004 with a shiny paint job. Epic could have/should have put a fair bit more effort into it, really.

Consoles will never take fps games fully from pc, because there are styles that work much better with keyboard and mouse - ut is an example, counterstrike another. Not to mention, games like halo play just as well on pc.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 06:57
Jonathan Holmes
I feel like the FPS genre is reaching an over saturation point similar to how Vs Fighting games did in the late 16 bit/32 bit era of gaming.

There are just more of them out there than we can keep up with.
CannibalCalvin 's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 06:57
CannibalCalvin
People want games not tech demos.

Also, who the fuck is Dr. Boa?
Boolean's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 06:58
Boolean
I'm so glad UT3 is selling like shit. All the fanboys have been crying for years that UT04 ruined the series, begging for the series to return to the UT99' roots. Forums overflowed, email servers were clogged, and for years people have complained about it, despite the fact they were by FAR the minority. So they finally return to the shitty UT99' gameplay and BAM, the game sells like shit. HOPE YOUR HAVING FUN NOW YOU FUCKERS! HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Mink Car's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 06:58
Mink Car
The problem here (and the reason these games aren't selling very well) seems to be that nobody can afford a computer with the specs necessary to play Crysis or UT3. The idea of spending $1000+ to play a few games before it becomes obsolete and you need to shell out more cash to play newer games isn't exactly a good idea in most people's opinions. With consoles, it's (usually) a one time price.
Knives's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 06:58
Knives
@Rbj
"newguy"



I still prefer a lot more keyboard and mouse for FPSs, that said, this year i only bought the Orange Box for PC, the rest of the FPSs I bought were for the 360. I think mainly because I'm lazy and didn't want to install, defrag, update video drivers, tweak the .ini (or something similar) etc. on the PC =P. That and xbox live friends.
electristan's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 07:00
electristan
Mouse and keyboard are still gives the best immersion way to playing a fps. flicking your thumbs around and waiting 3 seconds to turn around is a bitch. also when they develop console fps were you almost never have to look up or down. makes me feel like I'm playing doom again. In all other genre console control's are great just not in fps's
Netrat33's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 07:07
Netrat33
I'm a big pc gaming fan, but I have to admit I think PC gamers are killing pc gaming because of the constant whining about *feature* not being in a game or a copy protection, and most importantly, not looking even more realistic. Games like Crysis look amazing and definately scalable back to older hardware. But the stigma of PC gaming having to have it constantly looking the best drives people away from buying games since they THINK it has to have the newest hardware to simply play the game.
GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 07:10
GuitarAtomik
M&K is better for control but I'd rather use a controller for rumble alone. I realized half the reason I hated Resistance was because I wasn't getting any force feedback that I usually rely on in FPSs.

But yeah, I think a big factor with Crysis and UT3 not selling well is that people don't have/can't afford rigs that are powerful enough to play them like they should be played.
Boolean's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 07:18
Boolean
Holy shit! On the gamespy stats page, UT3 is being beaten by the Halo-1 demo in terms of players. Wow.
Ali D's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 07:34
Ali D
It just blows the fact that a game like Crysis won't run at it's full potential for at least another year. We're constantly told by developers that their PC games are superior in graphics, yet when you get the game home and play it on your PC, it probably looks average at best, even with bleeding edge technology.

I'm at a stage in my life where shelling out $3000 AUS for a gaming rig just doesn't make sense. I'd prefer to play Bioshock and the Orange Box games on a PC in all honesty, but my mortgage is preventing that from happening.

What about piracy? Does anyone think that's having an effect?
Cloudman's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 07:43
Cloudman
I think any PC gamer who upgrades there computer over the next few years will get crysis.
Ali D's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 07:43
Ali D
Incidentally, here's the UK PC sales charts for the week ending December 8th. UT3 was apparently being outsold by two Sims games!
Spilt Milk's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 07:45
Spilt Milk
I am sick and tired of having to tweak my pc every single time a new game comes out. Either I have to fitz with settings or update drivers, or buy new hardware. And then there is the crazy long installs and stupid copy protection that makes stealing a game easier and more hassle free than buying it.

I have switched my to consoles as my main gaming platform and have been happy as a pill ever since. I buy a game, I come home, I put it in, and it works! AMAZING!
matmanx1's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 07:53
matmanx1
Ya my PC could handle either of those games but as several have already stated PC gaming can be abit of a headache. Driver problems being the biggest culprit of course. Modern consoles attached to an HDTV look nearly as good as the highest end PC and when you factor in the cost difference and ease of use it is pretty easy to see why consoles are dominating right now.
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 07:57
BahamutZero
frankly, neither of those games are really that good. both were a let down and I think the sales numbers show it.
twincannon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 08:12
twincannon
No offense, but this is like... really old news. This started happening with Halo, really. It's a damn shame but PC's just aren't holding up as anything other than MMORPG boxes now.

Let's face it, even at it's most expensive price, the PS3 was still a bargain compared to a high-end PC required to play similar looking games.

PC gamers will always be the "real gamers", though, naturally.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 08:16
BlindsideDork
Nice, I went to consoles cause I don't like regular updates of hardware.
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 08:19
VWGTI
I can has Crysis on PS3 now?
WDot's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 08:32
WDot
Crysis probably didn't sell well because it runs like crap on EVERYONE's computer.

UT3 probably didn't sell well because the demo was buggy as all hell and not really that impressive.

I'm still a PC gamer for now, but consoles are looking more and more impressive.
raucci's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 08:37
raucci
I still love the keyboard and mouse feel more than a controller, but PC games are just annoying with their installations and driver updates and headaches caused from over heating etc. I mean, I have a 2 year old AlienWare computer and I still can't play Crysis without regular crashes.

The sad thing is I don't know how this problem could be fixed in the industry.
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 08:47
AgentMOO
As Dr. Boa said, The install base for the product is strongly affected by its relative price, especially since the Wii carved out the $250 segment. Also the PC has lost one out of two of the advantages it had, resolution. You can now run console games at high resolutions with no adverse affects. In the pc world to get the highest resolution, you have to either spend $5000 on your PC, or turn off all of the quality settings.

The question is, in five years will there be a big enough discrepancy between the game quality on PC and these consoles?

Another factor worth mentioning is that the windows market is drying up. People are hesitant to spend a lot on a windows PC when the plagued Vista is the only OS available from the factory. Apple has converted a *lot* of people I know.
Tragic_hero 's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 08:56
Tragic_hero
Wow...didn't realize installing things was such a pain. Maybe you guys should have someone put the halo 3 disc into your 360 so you don't exhaust yourself.

Consoles are the devil...they ruin classics such as Deus Ex and Oblivion and ruin genres for the PC (EX: Bioware rarely developing a game for PC in mind). Society would be a whole lot better if consoles weren't invented. Just think if DOS was still being run I wonder how many e-thugs and l337 players would still be playing games?
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 09:01
VWGTI
lol @ Tragic_hero
brad drac's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 09:02
brad drac
Part of the problem is that seeing as console games are just far more profitable than their PC equivalents, most FPSes are being tailored for console controllers. As a result, the same games just don't feel quite right with mouse & keys. I was just unable to get in to oblivion on the PC for that reason, and I'd say bioshock is the same. As it stands, the only PC game I bought this year was the orange box, because it's one of the few franchises that remains PC first and foremost. I would have tried crysis, but my computer would blow up if put in the same room as it.

Also, call me a demented nutfucker if you will, but I think the wiimote & nunchuck setup has a lot of potential(see metroid prime 3). I definitely think it could be better than dual analogues, and could give mouse & keys a decent run. Tactile, fast, accurate, analogue movement and rumble. Winning combination if you ask me.

One more thing; can we please stop saying "next-gen" now? The 360 has been out for over 2 years.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 09:06
Wedge
So it's not my imagination that nobody gives a fuck about UTIII.

Seriously though, how's the sales for Orange Box on PC? Or do they not have numbers for Steam sales? The retail market for PC games IS dead. Digital distribution is not the future for PC, it's the now. It probably helps that Valves products run on minimal specs compared to those other games too.
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 09:19
BahamutZero
wedge is right. I just realized I haven't bought a boxed PC title in over a year

however I have gametap and steam and I've been buying PC games this whole time.

BOXED PC GAMING with retail sales is flagging, but pc gaming and download services will never die: whine all you want about how expensive a "gaming" computer is, but the fact remains a "gaming computer" is NOT a $5000 console. It's the thing all games are built on from the first place, where video editing happens and 3D / sound production is done. These fancy rigs will always exist and there will always be a market for games to play on them. Also, RTS is my favorite genre and they will never get me to play RTS on a console. I'd rather dip my nuts in liquid nitrogen.
Lord_Satorious's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 09:29
Lord_Satorious
I can agree the mouse is superior to a thumbstick when it comes to first person shooters, but the keyboard just sucks. I'd rather use a thumbstick and joypad buttons than a keyboard. Oh, the keyboard has its uses, namely with real time strategy games, all those hotkeys and whatnot. The mouse/keyboard setup is not the ideal gaming controller, it's really just the mouse, and even then, not for everything. Is platforming really better on a mouse and keyboard?

How is it the video game consoles on the market can load game content with minimal loading times while with the PC you still have to install the damn game? I used to play PC games as my sole video gaming entertainment. Now it seems all the PC is good for are the aforementioned shooter and real time strategy games. I'm sick to death of both, at least with a console I can get a larger variety of games that are actually big name titles and not complete shit either.
lAboMbA's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 09:29
lAboMbA
one game completely obliterates this whole hypothesis.

COD4.
Dale North's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 09:45
Dale North
Yay for fellow sales tracking freaks!
xper's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:03
xper
one word to end all words in this conversation: piracy

people are playing crysis and ut3, cod4 as well, they're just not buying them. its almost as simple as that. piracy. of course, there are all these elements that all you guys talk about here that come into play, and answerers the question about piracy to some degree. the pc market is trailing behind, and the biggest factor is piracy. without a doubt.
ruckus's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:04
ruckus
the pc market is too busy playing WoW to be interested in anything else :P
DiseaseFactory's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:04
DiseaseFactory
Ut2k4 was great, and UT3 is even better. i love it on my ps3.. fast and fun. The vehicles kick major booty..
Ocified-Xboxer's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:07
Ocified-Xboxer
@ tragic_hero
You have to be joking...Consoles are the devil? Yeah, God forbid anyone would want to play a video game and just have to pop it in to work. Oh the humanity! It still amazes me that there are people who think like you. PC gaming is dead...or at the very least dying and on life support.

I've never been a KB&M guy...totally prefer the controller. Someone said something snarky about 3 seconds to turn...huh? don't have to look up or down....wha?

Why should it be incumbant upon me to have to upgrade my rig once a year, let alone more? I paid 400 bucks for my 360, I get optimized software, a great online service, no hassles with installing, drivers, or troubleshooting 1 specific issue. I pop it in, and then I *gasp* play the fucking game...

I don't think it is a saturation with FPS either. I think if you release Crysis on 360 or PS3 it would sell boatloads. There are a ton of FPSers, and there always will be because there is a huge market for them. Just looking at my 360 games I have 6 or 7 at the moment. I love them, it is a great genre.

Why even bother to get it on a PC? I think we all know, or at the very least think that Crysis will be hitting a home console at some point.
Android8675's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:09
Android8675
I've always been a pc gamer, but I have an xbox, though I loathe Halo 3, but Metroid on Wii ain't too bad.

That said, Final Fantasy XI can be played with a d-pad and a 4 button controller (after some "initial tweaking), so it's possible to whittle down an MMO to a more manageable control level. I honestly do not know why big MMOs like WoW are not available for console yet. It makes no sense to me. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind, but at the same time I'd love to be able to run around Norrath on my hdtv.

As for RTS, LOTR:BFME2 and C&C3 took great strides to making RTS controls actually work with a d-Pad. Still a bit complicated, but it works at least.
dtomek's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:12
dtomek
I don't buy PC FPS cause I don't like to have to spend a whole weeks paycheck on my machine everytime a new FPS comes out. I'd rather just spend a portion of a weeks once and call it good for a few years. It's made especially easier since I don't have to have the best graphics ever to enjoy a game. I imagine a lot of other people are feeling the same, thus slow sales for the extremely PC intensive games like Crysis.
ElfShotTheFood's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:17
ElfShotTheFood
These are US-based sales charts from select retailers that don't take online sales or overseas sales into account.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:17
Niero
I think the sales numbers are directly proportional to the guys who still live at home in their 40's and have eight-core PCs running Windows Orgasm Edition at full crank. Plus the one guy that's winning our Crysis + Velocity Micro contest :)
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:35
king3vbo
Niero, dont you mean Thronn? Because hes pretty much won at this point.
NukaCola's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:44
NukaCola
Until Xbox 360 allows Mouse & Keyboard support for FPS/RTS games PC FPS games will always be better.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:49
loki d20
I disagree with the assumption that consoles are beating the pcs in games, it's just a matter of numbers. People are on consoles, not on PCs. People are on consoles because they're cheaper than buying a good gaming rig every 2 years (which isn't logically necessary, but perception makes them illogically necessary) and are easier to use. People will flock to where there are more people to play with naturally.

PC gaming technology is still above and beyond that of consoles due to a continuous process of advancements rather than staggered advancement stages, and Crysis is proof of that. The sad thing is that it's consoles that will end up slowing down certain technological advancements in gaming in the long run.

I love both my PC and my consoles. But I'm not going to choose one over the other when they obviously have their strengths and weaknesses.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:51
loki d20
I disagree with the assumption that consoles are beating the pcs in games, it's just a matter of numbers. People are on consoles, not on PCs. People are on consoles because they're cheaper than buying a good gaming rig every 2 years (which isn't logically necessary, but perception makes them illogically necessary) and are easier to use. People will flock to where there are more people to play with naturally.

PC gaming technology is still above and beyond that of consoles due to a continuous process of advancements rather than staggered advancement stages, and Crysis is proof of that. The sad thing is that it's consoles that will end up slowing down certain technological advancements in gaming in the long run.

I love both my PC and my consoles. But I'm not going to choose one over the other when they obviously have their strengths and weaknesses.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:52
loki d20
I disagree with the assumption that consoles are beating the pcs in games, it's just a matter of numbers. People are on consoles, not on PCs. People are on consoles because they're cheaper than buying a good gaming rig every 2 years (which isn't logically necessary, but perception makes them illogically necessary) and are easier to use. People will flock to where there are more people to play with naturally.

PC gaming technology is still above and beyond that of consoles due to a continuous process of advancements rather than staggered advancement stages, and Crysis is proof of that. The sad thing is that it's consoles that will end up slowing down certain technological advancements in gaming in the long run.

I love both my PC and my consoles. But I'm not going to choose one over the other when they obviously have their strengths and weaknesses.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:52
loki d20
I disagree with the assumption that consoles are beating the pcs in games, it's just a matter of numbers. People are on consoles, not on PCs. People are on consoles because they're cheaper than buying a good gaming rig every 2 years (which isn't logically necessary, but perception makes them illogically necessary) and are easier to use. People will flock to where there are more people to play with naturally.

PC gaming technology is still above and beyond that of consoles due to a continuous process of advancements rather than staggered advancement stages, and Crysis is proof of that. The sad thing is that it's consoles that will end up slowing down certain technological advancements in gaming in the long run.

I love both my PC and my consoles. But I'm not going to choose one over the other when they obviously have their strengths and weaknesses.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:52
loki d20
I disagree with the assumption that consoles are beating the pcs in games, it's just a matter of numbers. People are on consoles, not on PCs. People are on consoles because they're cheaper than buying a good gaming rig every 2 years (which isn't logically necessary, but perception makes them illogically necessary) and are easier to use. People will flock to where there are more people to play with naturally.

PC gaming technology is still above and beyond that of consoles due to a continuous process of advancements rather than staggered advancement stages, and Crysis is proof of that. The sad thing is that it's consoles that will end up slowing down certain technological advancements in gaming in the long run.

I love both my PC and my consoles. But I'm not going to choose one over the other when they obviously have their strengths and weaknesses.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:52
loki d20
I disagree with the assumption that consoles are beating the pcs in games, it's just a matter of numbers. People are on consoles, not on PCs. People are on consoles because they're cheaper than buying a good gaming rig every 2 years (which isn't logically necessary, but perception makes them illogically necessary) and are easier to use. People will flock to where there are more people to play with naturally.

PC gaming technology is still above and beyond that of consoles due to a continuous process of advancements rather than staggered advancement stages, and Crysis is proof of that. The sad thing is that it's consoles that will end up slowing down certain technological advancements in gaming in the long run.

I love both my PC and my consoles. But I'm not going to choose one over the other when they obviously have their strengths and weaknesses.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:52
loki d20
I disagree with the assumption that consoles are beating the pcs in games, it's just a matter of numbers. People are on consoles, not on PCs. People are on consoles because they're cheaper than buying a good gaming rig every 2 years (which isn't logically necessary, but perception makes them illogically necessary) and are easier to use. People will flock to where there are more people to play with naturally.

PC gaming technology is still above and beyond that of consoles due to a continuous process of advancements rather than staggered advancement stages, and Crysis is proof of that. The sad thing is that it's consoles that will end up slowing down certain technological advancements in gaming in the long run.

I love both my PC and my consoles. But I'm not going to choose one over the other when they obviously have their strengths and weaknesses.
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2007 10:52
loki d20
I disagree with the assumption that consoles are beating the pcs in games, it's just a matter of numbers. People are on consoles, not on PCs. People are on consoles because they're cheaper than buying a good gaming rig every 2 years (which isn't logically necessary, but perception makes them illogically necessary) and are easier to use. People will flock to where there are more people to play with naturally.

PC gaming technology is still above and beyond that of consoles due to a continuous process of advancements rather than staggered advancement stages, and Crysis is proof of that. The sad thing is that it's consoles that will end up slowing down certain technological advancements in gaming in the long run.

I love both my PC and my consoles. But I'm not going to choose one over the other when they obviously have their strengths and weaknesses.
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