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Sounds good to me, especially if I can capture game footage. Hate doing awesome things in Gears and GTA and not being able to show it off.
what disturbs me more is that they will likely use this vague patent on a concept to ensure no other console manufacturer can include similar (obvious) technology in their competing console.
Ugh, I hope they make just a console version. You know, a box whose dedicated purpose is to play games.
I like it. It's a natural extension to current 360 functionality, it just takes your PC and Windows Media Center out of the loop.
I'd plug my co-axial cable right into my 360 if I could. :)
I'd plug my co-axial cable right into my 360 if I could. :)
This would never work without some paid service from a cable provider. Just another subscription to add on top of Xbox Live Gold.
whats the problem with being able to download tv or game footage while playing? that's like complaining how a computer can record tv, and download patches while you play some battlefield. I think it would be an awesome feature. Some people don't have Netflix, and I am sure some people would definitely like to record game footage as shown by many montages and Machinima shows online.
All I want to do is play fucking video games.
Also, is that really the patent? Because what the hell is a "Reomote control"?
Also, is that really the patent? Because what the hell is a "Reomote control"?
And so people starts to complain about companies adding functionalities to devices...NO I DON'T WANT MY PHONE TO PLAY MUSIC TOO...WEB SURFING YOU SAY? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?!? GIMME BACK MY NOKIA 6520!
If people just want to play video games then just play your video games, no need to be nerds about this now. Many people thought "omg netflix on my console, how retarded I wanna play my gaaames, waaaaaambulance!!" but now the Xbox 360, playstation 3, and the wii are some of the most used devices for netflix, so adding a recording feature will not hinder your games. Fucking Camel toe nerds.
@AlurProtoss:
Now why you gotta go and insult people who prefer a device just for playing videogames? If game companies who makes multiple SKU for things like extra functionality vs. game only instead of just different colors and HDD sizes, we'd could all have what we wanted. Plus consoles are getting weaker the more functionality you put into them.
Now why you gotta go and insult people who prefer a device just for playing videogames? If game companies who makes multiple SKU for things like extra functionality vs. game only instead of just different colors and HDD sizes, we'd could all have what we wanted. Plus consoles are getting weaker the more functionality you put into them.
@Dancing Mad
obviously people still do considering cable companies are still around and still make lots of money. Why do you think Microsoft added TV channels to Xbox live? to get people who watch tv to watch it on xbox instead. I really don't understand the whole "huuuuurrrr who watches TV mentality". Everybody does and there isn't anything wrong with watching it.
obviously people still do considering cable companies are still around and still make lots of money. Why do you think Microsoft added TV channels to Xbox live? to get people who watch tv to watch it on xbox instead. I really don't understand the whole "huuuuurrrr who watches TV mentality". Everybody does and there isn't anything wrong with watching it.
@Master Snake
So I guess that's why the PC is the weaker platform right? It has tons of functionality so that must mean PC is garbage for playing games right? The PC is weaker because I can record game play footage and surf the net right? The reality is that people want more functionality and they want more for their dollar. For example the Playstation 2 was highly popular because of the added functionality of a DvD player. Did that stop people from playing games on it? No does having Netflix and other media type options on Xbox 360 and play station 3 stop people from playing games? No, so adding more functionality isn't a problem. If all you want to do is play games that's fine the system isn't hindering you in any way. If your complaining about performance then switch to PC gaming, but as we all know it has the most functionality ergo it must be weaker, right?
So I guess that's why the PC is the weaker platform right? It has tons of functionality so that must mean PC is garbage for playing games right? The PC is weaker because I can record game play footage and surf the net right? The reality is that people want more functionality and they want more for their dollar. For example the Playstation 2 was highly popular because of the added functionality of a DvD player. Did that stop people from playing games on it? No does having Netflix and other media type options on Xbox 360 and play station 3 stop people from playing games? No, so adding more functionality isn't a problem. If all you want to do is play games that's fine the system isn't hindering you in any way. If your complaining about performance then switch to PC gaming, but as we all know it has the most functionality ergo it must be weaker, right?
@AiurProtoss
You're making one hell of a false equivalency.
Gamer's money is being spent on adding multimedia functionality in an attempt to make gaming consoles appeal to the whole family. All fine and good, except gaming is a wildly expensive hobby as it stands, and current gen consoles have been nearly twice as expensive as the last (PS2s were less than half the price of the PS3 at this point in the life cycle).
In short, cut all the non gaming bullshit I can already do on 3 or 4 other devices I already own, and let me pay half the price for a dedicated gaming console. I'm not saying cut all the multimedia shit out completely, I'm saying give me a goddamn choice to have a machine that does nothing but game.
You're making one hell of a false equivalency.
Gamer's money is being spent on adding multimedia functionality in an attempt to make gaming consoles appeal to the whole family. All fine and good, except gaming is a wildly expensive hobby as it stands, and current gen consoles have been nearly twice as expensive as the last (PS2s were less than half the price of the PS3 at this point in the life cycle).
In short, cut all the non gaming bullshit I can already do on 3 or 4 other devices I already own, and let me pay half the price for a dedicated gaming console. I'm not saying cut all the multimedia shit out completely, I'm saying give me a goddamn choice to have a machine that does nothing but game.
I dunno, I use my 360 as a Media Center extender and that is pretty darn useful. Having that tech built more directly into the box without requiring a separate PC would be pretty snazzy.
This is no surprise in the least. Microsoft has not been at all clandestine in their aims at integrating the Xbox into the television service market.
Even though I don't pay for cable these days I still don't use my Xbox for all this t.v. crap, but if a DVR can record in-game footage for bragging rights or whatever I'm definitely down for that. I love Halo's Theatre mode and to have something like that for every game has me interested.
Think of it, Dale! You could show off your Kinectimals Corgi to the world!!
Think of it, Dale! You could show off your Kinectimals Corgi to the world!!
I have no problem wiht adding functionality as long as it dont end up paying extra every month for it. And make no mistake cable companies will not let you watch/record and replay their content without a subscription fee. HBO Go is coming to 360 but only if you already subscribe to HBO through cable.
"Microsoft also suggests that it could nab gaming footage (local or online), rip music and movies, and so on."
Doubtful, at least on the movie part, unless they really want to confuse the whole SOPA issue.
"The latest update to the Xbox 360 to make it a streaming beast is more in line with what users want and need."
So kittens with broken legs are beasts? Because that's how the 360 looks to me in the streaming department: Yes it streams, but it isn't doing it very well. You can't have a movie service running on your platform for 3 years or so run even more like shit then it has in the past with your newest firmware/UI upgrade, and call it a beast.
Doubtful, at least on the movie part, unless they really want to confuse the whole SOPA issue.
"The latest update to the Xbox 360 to make it a streaming beast is more in line with what users want and need."
So kittens with broken legs are beasts? Because that's how the 360 looks to me in the streaming department: Yes it streams, but it isn't doing it very well. You can't have a movie service running on your platform for 3 years or so run even more like shit then it has in the past with your newest firmware/UI upgrade, and call it a beast.
Or you could just pay for some exclusive titles m$
Actually fuck that... WHO NEEDS GAMEZEZ WHEN YA GOT CABLE
Actually fuck that... WHO NEEDS GAMEZEZ WHEN YA GOT CABLE
Holy clusterfuck "I JUS WANNA PLAY GAEMZ" I'm so glad I switched to PC. I would hate to have all these mouthbreathers speaking for me.
It's called evolution. The 360/PS3/Wii do way more than just 'play gaemz' so get the fuck over yourselves and accept that the future is and always has been in multimedia devices.
With the recent switch to PC, I've been able to record ALL of my hilarious moments in BF3, SR3, etc., so to have a similar functionality BUILT-IN would be amazing. It's a feature that's been a long time coming, what with everyone this day and age wanting to upload everything about themselves online.
It's called evolution. The 360/PS3/Wii do way more than just 'play gaemz' so get the fuck over yourselves and accept that the future is and always has been in multimedia devices.
With the recent switch to PC, I've been able to record ALL of my hilarious moments in BF3, SR3, etc., so to have a similar functionality BUILT-IN would be amazing. It's a feature that's been a long time coming, what with everyone this day and age wanting to upload everything about themselves online.
@Rammstein
I'm not sure what point your'e making. The choice to buy a bare bones gaming only machine as well as one more media oriented could only benefit consumers, especially consumers like myself who end up paying for considerable overlaps in functionality. This is not some megalomaniacal "I need to get over myself" moment, its being a half smart consumer.
If every PC on the market were to come with fairly powerful gaming hardware stuffed inside, the price of PCs would skyrocket across the board and the mainstream consumer wouldn't be so happy. If there were competition in the gaming hardware space like there is in home computing, everyone and their grandma wouldn't be trying to sell people their attempts at an all in one entertainment box.
Choice. That is what's lacking here. The functionality itself is hardly a problem, its the fact that I must pay for added functionality I have no need for in order to get to my gaming. Funny enough, its the reason why I'm moving more and more steadily to a PC only gaming setup. More options.
I'm not sure what point your'e making. The choice to buy a bare bones gaming only machine as well as one more media oriented could only benefit consumers, especially consumers like myself who end up paying for considerable overlaps in functionality. This is not some megalomaniacal "I need to get over myself" moment, its being a half smart consumer.
If every PC on the market were to come with fairly powerful gaming hardware stuffed inside, the price of PCs would skyrocket across the board and the mainstream consumer wouldn't be so happy. If there were competition in the gaming hardware space like there is in home computing, everyone and their grandma wouldn't be trying to sell people their attempts at an all in one entertainment box.
Choice. That is what's lacking here. The functionality itself is hardly a problem, its the fact that I must pay for added functionality I have no need for in order to get to my gaming. Funny enough, its the reason why I'm moving more and more steadily to a PC only gaming setup. More options.
"Waaaaambulance i just wanna play games! Added features make the price go up waaaaaa" You do realize that it costs money to make these machines and it costs money for online infrastructure, manufacturing, distribution, advertising, etc. That's where all the cost if coming from and the companies are even taking a hit at launch. So unless you have a plan for digital distribution of game consoles or some great new idea shut the fuck up because if it where the other way around people would still be crying. So move over for progress and evolution ya cunts!
This sounds weird, only the America can another company have a patent for a device that another company has. I have "PLAY TV" for my PS3, i record shows from the "freeview", so in essence my ps3 is also a DVR. You can google PlayTV for ps3 to find info for yourself
Link:- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Playstation-TV-TV-Tuner-PlayStation/dp/B001D67WJW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1325716590&sr=8-4
Link:- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Playstation-TV-TV-Tuner-PlayStation/dp/B001D67WJW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1325716590&sr=8-4
This sounds weird, only the America can another company have a patent for a device that another company has. I have "PLAY TV" for my PS3, i record shows from the "freeview", so in essence my ps3 is also a DVR. You can google PlayTV for ps3 to find info for yourself
Link:- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Playstation-TV-TV-Tuner-PlayStation/dp/B001D67WJW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1325716590&sr=8-4
Link:- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Playstation-TV-TV-Tuner-PlayStation/dp/B001D67WJW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1325716590&sr=8-4
So Microsoft is once again doing everything *but* games on the next one? I think I'll save my money for the PS4 at this point, Sony keeps making strides to improve its software lineup while MS has gone stagnant.
Did 360 even have any exclusives besides GoW3 and Forza 4 last year?
Did 360 even have any exclusives besides GoW3 and Forza 4 last year?
I hate to sound cynical here, but I'll be impressed if the next Xbox manages to at least be less noisy than a mack truck and not destroy itself after a year. Shaking out the BS before adding extraneous junk seems more like the logical progression than the kitchen sink approach.
Important things to note here: 1) This patent was applied for in 2007. 2) Microsoft has lots and lots of patents that they have collected and never used. They probably have a team of people whose sole job is to write up patent ideas and submit them. Patents are the new currency in the tech world.
As for this actually being a thing, I don't think so. Media streaming has become far too popular and convenient for this decade-old functionality to be worth even a small investment of time and resources.
@gueeds: That did happen with AT&T, at least on paper. The AT&T U-Verse app for 360 pretty much went nowhere. That was a good idea, scuttled by AT&T's insistence on selling it as a $100 package including a networking adapter and media remote alongside the software. And it couldn't be used as a residence's primary TV terminal, it had to be secondary to one of their own units.
As for this actually being a thing, I don't think so. Media streaming has become far too popular and convenient for this decade-old functionality to be worth even a small investment of time and resources.
@gueeds: That did happen with AT&T, at least on paper. The AT&T U-Verse app for 360 pretty much went nowhere. That was a good idea, scuttled by AT&T's insistence on selling it as a $100 package including a networking adapter and media remote alongside the software. And it couldn't be used as a residence's primary TV terminal, it had to be secondary to one of their own units.
The PS3 has been doing this for YEARS outside the USA.
It's called PlayTV and it records TV while you're gaming and turns your PS3 on to record when it's off. The only thing it doesn't do is the whole recording game footage thing.
If this patent is from 2007, then it was probably filed around about when PlayTV was in development, no doubt to try to (perhaps even succeed in USA???) get in the way of Sony's plans.
If so it was a dick move.
It's called PlayTV and it records TV while you're gaming and turns your PS3 on to record when it's off. The only thing it doesn't do is the whole recording game footage thing.
If this patent is from 2007, then it was probably filed around about when PlayTV was in development, no doubt to try to (perhaps even succeed in USA???) get in the way of Sony's plans.
If so it was a dick move.
Considering I use my XBOX 360s as Windows 7 Media Center extenders.....thanks to my Quad Tuner Ceton INFINITV4.....I can say the XBOX 360 + DVR Capabilities = Fantastic.
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