URGH, this update erased my war journal...

And in fucking hours of this update there has sprung an UNKILLABLE glitch.

Nice work Epic.

Leave it to epic to fuck up a game even more when the intent was to fix it.

Yeah...Um... Epic, you really should try this well-known type of game connection. It connects via the server. Everyone obviously hates the via host connection. This is a fucking shooting game, so give it the same connection type of one. Instead of working on all these stupid map packs, give more of a reason for everyone to want to buy them by spending the money on new servers and not for development of the map packs. My friends and I make jokes of this game because of how stupidly pointless the multiplayer is.

For the record, the smoke grenade change wasn't an "added oomph", it was a nerf. The smoke grenade used to knock you down and stun you completely.

I've been on it all weekend and loved it. Kurzicde. you and your friends are so wrong about the MP. It's such an awesome multiplayer experience that your comment just seems so, I don't know, uhh...misinformed? Perhaps it frustrates you because it's actually quite hard? Usedtabe. The smoke grenade works beautifully as moving cover, also it's great for tackling power weapons. It seems that those who diss the Gears 2 MP are people who probably haven't played it recently, as practically every glitch I hear peeps moaning about is no longer existent. It's not perfect, but since I've been playing Gears 2 MP, I find every other MP experience incredibly tame. Not to mention easy.

Fair enough, Usedta.. I wasn't trying to put any noses out of joint. I guess I must be lucky, because I've been playing Gears2 MP pretty much all of my free-time for about the last 5 months, and I haven't come across any glitches that would lead me to brand the experience as broken or shit. I get the occasional connection issue where I can run around, but can only fire non-ammo depleting blanks, but that's about it. Oh, there's the odd epileptic fit glitch, but they're rare too. Never messes up my enjoyment. I would like to have a go on Gears 1 because, yes you're right, I didn't play the MP (wasn't online when I played 1). But seriously, I'm mad addicted to 2, and so long as I'm happy, etc...

Had to register cause I agree with you usedtabe. This game WAS for the hardcore... I never played GoW1 but the second my friend showed me the "intricacies" to learning and becoming better at GoW2, I was hooked like white on rice. Games like this take skill, knowledge, and time. Then they decided to dumb down the game to bring in new potential DLC'ers. Which is fine... but then they decide to implement bat sh*t crazy ideas such as psuedo-lag, stunning SMOKE grenades, and delays in gameplay... it's been the driving force for many GoW2 fans to look to something else. No new player (no matter the game) should be on the same par with someone who's been playing it. How can they anyway? They still have to learn how they broke the thing in order to understand how the system is trying to work in their favor... which is full of p*** poor logic at EPIC.

I have no problem believing and taking relief in their GoW3 Pre-Orders taking a massive hit, as well as this mockery of a DLC they call ALL FRONTS, which is a major b button slap with host powers to their once loyal fans, which I don't consider myself a part of, as I still haven't gone to GoW1... EPIC has alienated their true fan base for a bunch of fence sitters. Who are more than happy to point at Microsoft instead of EPIC because they have no true concept on how this business works. It's called RETURNING CUSTOMERS EPIC!