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Parents concerned about content of their kids' videogames, never their fault photo

Here's an absolute shocker of a story for you: Microsoft discovered that over 75% of parents in Europe are concerned over the content of the videogames they willingly let their children play, while 43% of them were unaware of any kind of rating system. One of the three countries in which the survey was conducted was the UK, which doesn't have an obscure rating label at all. In fact, a massive red circle with "18" printed on it, exactly like our movies, is pretty bloody telling, don't you think? The other countries were Germany and Italy, and I'm sure that Germany's ratings are damn obvious too.

Parents also seem to believe that game playing should be limited to one hour per day, something they seem incapable of enforcing on their own. Thankfully, Microsoft is on the case since the new Xbox 360 dashboard update can impose such restrictions. This is because parents simply can't say "no" to a child, fearing their terrible psychic abilities.

Games writer Margaret Robertson added that the industry should be "giving [people] the information they need." Again, I point to the imposing red circle with a big "18" in it that mirrors the exact same logo used for DVDs. The only thing that needs to change on the industry side is for America to adopt the same kind of logos so stupid parents are less likely to be confused -- though from the looks of this survey, even such a clear and obvious signpost isn't enough for these morons.

When a game has an "18" on it, the same rating that has been on the cases of videotapes since the 1980s, I really don't think a parent claiming "oh I didn't know there was a rating" should be seen as a valid excuse. At all.








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Barcode's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:04
Barcode
ROFL

I love seeing things like this with parents. I'm actually working on a blog talking about kid's addiction with video games and how parents aren't much to help stop their kid's problem.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:05
Snaileb
Last time I checked, Gears of War was family fun for all.
3r0t1c n3rd's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:11
3r0t1c n3rd
And last time the parents checked, the most violent game out there was pac man.
iliketuna's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:16
iliketuna
Have you guys ever tried to deny a kid something that they really want? Its a bloody nightmare. Especially when you come home from work all stressed out, only thing you want is to have a nice evening with your family. The last thing you need is a fight with your kid over some stupid videogame.

And this battle goes on constantly with toys, candies, sugar laced cereals, etc.

Anything that can help them enforce rules (like the 360 update) is welcome.

That said, parents should take the time to learn about what their kids are in to so that they can make better decisions regarding them. Videogames or otherwise.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:21
Bob Muir
Goddammit, if parents are going to be this stupid, they don't deserve to be raising kids, because they obviously don't know what they're doing.
vampireblood's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:24
vampireblood
I think most parents are going to be to dumb to even set such settings or even know they exist on the Xbox 360.

Microsoft should do a Marketing campaign or something to raise awareness.

Do they have some ad with some kid playing his xbox while his mum yells at him?
PwnDaddy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:25
PwnDaddy
@ iliketuna: I'd just pass out spankings. Liberally.

Also, I find it humorous that stuff like this happens. I was just at Gamestop yesterday where a mother was buying her 9 year old Persona 3. I pointed it out to a guy behind the counter, and he put up the demo for the mom. Who watched as you BLOW YOUR OWN DAMN HEAD OFF to use your powers.

Yeah, the kid was pissed, but our point was made. We gave him Puzzle Quest instead. Crisis averted.

It's not hard to show parents what these games are about, and kids like this are the reason this kind of shit happens. Yes, I think that kids mature at varying speeds (mentall, you pervs). Yes, I was mature enough to handle something like Halo at 15 cause I could understand and comprehend the story. A 9 year old can't.

Also, was Umbrella Chronicles any good? I almost got it while I was there.
PsychoSoldier's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:27
PsychoSoldier
Thank God my mom is one of the parents that understands the rating system. If I happent o get a PS 2 soon my little brother, he's 12, wants to play M rated games on it but my mom says no and she will stick to gun on this.
Corncobtacular's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:28
Corncobtacular
I've always thought that the ESRB should adopt the movie rating system that we already have (G,PG,PG-17,R, NC-17). The reasoning is two fold:

1) You get rid of the complaint that ratings are confusing since the MPAA has already done all the legwork for you over the years. Everyone in this country knows what those ratings mean from 5-95 year olds. This in turn helps you save money by not having to inform people about different rating system.

2) You can start laying the ground for videogames to be rated the same as movies in terms of violence. No more AO rated games like manhunt 2 just because of the violence. You could look over directly at movie violence and ask for a comparable rating.

The only problem i could see would be if the MPAA didn't want to license the use of their rating system.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:33
JACK of No Trades
I HATE stupid people. The world is filled with them. I bet 9/10 people in the world are highly religious, unintelligent, irresponsible fuckwads trying to push their fucking ignorant, idiotical beliefs on intelligent people. They should all just crash and burn. I wish natural selection worked faster.

Games have ratings on the box for a reason. If you cannot see them or choose to not pay attention, maybe you shouldn't be buying games and/or raising kids.
Verge Ireland's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:35
Verge Ireland
Only recently found this site and got to say I enjoy your care free no BS take on what’s going on in the world. As for this story its great that MS are providing the options to the parents but it really is up to parents to keep clued in to what the hell is going on in there child’s life. If there going to shell out a load of money (presuming the kids are that young and don’t have serious income) you'd think they'd read the manual to the console and understand what they just gave the child. Engage OTT mode: Now if you'll excuse we I’m off to give a child some knives to see if they can learn to juggle. That’s right, I too have no common sense. I'll be back here later to complain the knife company didn’t explicitly tell me not to try get a seven year only to juggle knives (some of which may be on fire).
WDot's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:37
WDot
You know, EVEN IF the parent couldn't figure out what 18 or M or whatever mean, doesn't it seem sort of non-family-friendly to have a game called "Gears of WAR" with a blood-red spray paint of a skull on it? Honestly, even if I don't look at the rating I can usually get a good estimate by the cover art alone.
RivaOni's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:41
RivaOni
Sign of the time I'm afraid, nothing its the parents fault. Wether its their childs intelligence, them getting drunk, smoking under age, hell this could even be included for pet dogs, its never the owners fault for not keeping a proper restraint on their dog if it attacks someone without provocation, likewise its never the "victims" fault if the animal was provoked.

We live in a blame culture and its not going to go away.
electristan's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:48
electristan
@ RivaOni

exactly. they want others to do the paranting for them. what they should do is get a dog the ravishes their child if he/she plays to long, that'll teach them to listen to Maa and Paa.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 09:59
Excel-2011
Something like this occurred to someone I know with the original Manhunt. The parent went out and bought it and asked the clerk if it was appropriate for her kid. The clerk claimed that he had never played it as he does not own a PS2 and cited the return policy which said that she could return it within seven days if there was a problem. 45 minutes later, she stormed in and the inevitable happened. She got the manager involved, but he defended the clerk; he knows the clerk did not have a PS2 from experience and repeated what the clerk had said when she bought it. It could all have been avoided if she had just read the back of the box.

Also, @PsychoSoldier:
High five @ Athena.
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 10:01
Trev
@jack of no trades

This is why I'm too disgusted to call myself an atheist. What the fuck did religion have to do with this before you brought it in? It's a shame. I would agree with you if you hadn't laced the whole statement with your brand of dogma.

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I think if you can't bother to observe the ratings on a game like you would on a movie (which I imagine they do), you're probably too irresponsible to be a good parent anyway. No amount of blame-shifting or dashboard-updating is going to convince anyone but other people trying to hide behind the same b.s. "but we don't understand it" excuse.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 10:05
Samit Sarkar
@Corncobtacular: Yeah, using the MPAA system would be a great idea, but I agree...Jack Valenti’s will probably said, “Don’t ever let that damn ESRB try to use our ratings system.” But that’s not the only reason it’ll never happen. I mean, the ESRB wouldn’t want to acknowledge that their ratings system doesn’t do its job, and it’s not like the MPAA system works perfectly, either — you nearly saw full frontal nudity of Kate Winslet in Titanic, yet that film got a PG-13 rating.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 10:11
JACK of No Trades
Trev

lol don't be so naive. I associate religion with ignorance.
Barcode's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 10:26
Barcode
"This is because parents simply can't say "no" to a child, fearing their terrible psychic abilities."

Amen.
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 10:47
Trev
Jack

Hence my disgust. I must really be naive to form opinions of people on a people on a personal basis.
atheistium's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 10:48
atheistium
Jim, thanks for saying the damn obvious. I love you!
catsithx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 10:50
catsithx
Children of the games whooooo!!!!ok parents you need to be smacked up side your head
Mr Kryptonite's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 10:50
Mr Kryptonite
@Pwndaddy: I think you truely underestimate the mental capacity of 9 year olds. At 9, my friends and I were talkin about shit that in the past a 24 year old would have been embarrased to talk about.
IceMax's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 11:03
IceMax
yes, that picture is hard to understand, im used to vague letters telling me if i can play a game. what the fuck is that number shit?
OrangeGoblin's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 11:26
OrangeGoblin
I posted earlier about how the statistics in this report seem pretty dodgy to begin with.
Barcode's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 11:27
Barcode
I love how parents point fingers and say that they're a good parent when they're a parent.
Barcode's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 11:31
Barcode
and by the last parent, i meant crappy parent.
saxiums's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 11:35
saxiums
90% of people are idiots. what we actually need is an iq test to get the game box open, maybe a more complicated latch tell the technology gets better...
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 11:45
Jetsetlemming
I'm fairly sure the knowledge about the ESRB ratings in America is wider than those European stats. That's a little unfair though, because Europe is a continent with multiple diverse countries and governments and languages and whatnot, and with multiple game marking ratings systems. A better test would be the awareness of just Western Europe or sometihng like that. Not every country has that big red circle with the 18 in it, after all.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 11:59
king3vbo
At this point, if you dont know games get rated, you are a fucking moron
RICHARD BLOCKER's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 12:00
RICHARD BLOCKER
You should have to apply for a parent licence. If you can't pass the average intelligence and parenting ethics test, you are not permitted to have children.

Yeah, that would go over like a fart in church. It needs to happen, but it won't because of a 13 year old drug users god given right to have children.
Harkonnen's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 12:18
Harkonnen
I will just give a brief summary of my last ramble concerning stupid parents:

Stupid parents are stupid. Handle it!

Okay I need to be more specific. Have you ever noticed how parents always HAVE to have the most handsome, intelligent, athletic and bombastic kids of 'em all? Well, that's what you turn into for inserting (or letting someone insert) your (a?) penis into a (your?) vagina without previously performing a nifty scissors job.

So much for the evolution of the species.

Oh, and sorry for the spoilers if you didn't play Breed yet.
bgenso's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 12:19
bgenso
C'mon that LARGE red circle with the number 18 on it is like many ADULT content you may find here and there, how can parents just ignore the ratings and then blame the games for being made!? Yea I know kids can buy em on there own and what not but geez, learn that violent games exist on a common bases already. ZOMG manhunt wut is this randomly violent game! not since GTA! OOH NOOES...pff
SubOrbital's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 12:28
SubOrbital
A bit of good old fashioned discipline never hurt anyone. Kids are spoiled little shits these days. They have an air of entitlement about them, which is I feel a result of the PC era we live in. I think we'll see a turn though soon now that people realize the era of 'he raped that lady because we didn't hug him enough' is over. Having said that, parents being concerned about what their kids are doing is a GOOD THING, Jim. It's their job. Harp all you like on them blaming video games for their ills, which is stupid of them to do because it is their job to raise their children into productive members of society [for their own benefit as much as anyone else's], but parents being concerned about what their kids are playing is no different to them being concerned about anything else. It comes with the territory of being a parent. I don't think you intend to dissuade parents who are doing that though, I think it's these half assed folk who are blaming everyone and everything else but themselves for what's going wrong in their kids lives. Now THAT I wholeheartedly and vehemently agree with. Scream it louder.
Alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 12:41
Alex
in germany we have the normal "signs" which show everything and often the shops (like Gamestop etc) put EXTRA stickers on the games with say DONT FUCK WITH THIS IF YOU ARE UNDER 18 MORON (or something like that).

Its not hard to see..
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 13:04
VWGTI
Wait, games have ratings?
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 13:21
TheStripe
@SubOrbital - Entitlement is hereditary. The whiny whores that don't understand game ratings haven't ever actually had to support themselves. They've either had trust funds, or sugar daddies to pay the bills and keep all that nasty reality away. Now that they're parents with no real idea of how the world works, they're unable to protect their children from it, nor do they understand why their kids are spastic fucking terrors.
Quazy v2's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 13:33
Quazy v2
It amazes me how little parenting parents want to do nowadays. What happened to saying no to your kids, giving them a spanking when they are bad, or actively watching what they are playing. But of course neglecting all this isn't enough for parents, they also complain about how screwed up their kids are when they grow up because the makers of the media are obviously at fault and not their craptaculer parenting skills.
neveranything's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 14:17
neveranything
@iliketuna

If you have to have a major battle with your kid just to get them to stop playing a game, or to get a toy away from them, unless they're REALLY young, you've got a problem.

If they want to throw a fit, if they want to have a tantrum, if they want to yell and scream, punish them. Timeout, stand in the corner, whatever. If that doesn't work, then spank them. If you threaten to keep whatever they're crying for away longer, and longer, and longer, and longer, they'll learn that it's better to just shut up. They've gotta learn that it won't work sooner or later, otherwise you'll never have a peaceful anything.

It all comes down to parenting, period. If you don't show them that fighting and tantrums don't work, they'll do it infinitely.
BlackbeardonGuitar's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 15:09
BlackbeardonGuitar
THese same paretns probably watch more than 2 hours of tv a day. Idiots.
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 16:01
Fading Star
"When a game has an "18" on it, the same rating that has been on the cases of videotapes since the 1980's, I really don't think a parent claiming "oh I didn't know there was a rating" should be seen as a valid excuse. At all."

:).
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 16:01
Fading Star
"When a game has an "18" on it, the same rating that has been on the cases of videotapes since the 1980's, I really don't think a parent claiming "oh I didn't know there was a rating" should be seen as a valid excuse. At all."

:).
dashnataku's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 17:02
dashnataku
I know! They should just release all violent games in an orange bottle with one of those child proof caps. I don't hear anyone complaining about those. =P
Gareson's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 17:46
Gareson
I've disagreed with Jim on some of his previous articles but he is spot on here. As a parent, I am very vigilant about what I let my 10 year old play. It's my job to police what he doing on the PC, Wii, etc....not the governments. I have no problem with the rating system, and I support game stores not selling adult games to underage kids...I value those tools as a parent. However, at the end of the day, any parent that buys their kids games that are not age appropriate have no one to blame but themselves.
Andrew5329's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 18:04
Andrew5329
Your forgetting about that miraculous power children have over their parents called Guilt, that and the fact that a child crying "Mommy Mommy I Wanz Toz Playz Miez Haloz 3z!!!" for like 2 weeks will usually annoy the parent so bad that they give in to shut their little spoiled brat up.
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/04/2007 19:16
TheStripe
Right, and that makes them horrible parents.
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