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Paradox: DRM is a waste of money photo

Paradox Interactive has slammed the digital rights software of other companies, calling such anti-piracy measures a waste of money. 

"I’m so surprised that people still use DRM. We haven’t done that for seven or eight years, and the reason is that it doesn’t make sense," said CEO Fred Wester. "No one should have to purchase a product that they’re unable to install because of the DRM. There might be other reasons, like the compatibility isn’t correct, or whatever. But people who purchase a game should have just as easy a time as those who pirate the game, otherwise it’s a negative incentive to buy a legal copy.

"And I just can’t see why people are using DRM still. If you take something like Sony’s DRM, SecuROM -- it’s a waste of money. It will keep you protected for three days, it will create a lot of technical support, and it will not increase sales. And I know this for a fact, because we tried it eight years ago, and it never worked for us. Two major reasons: it costs money and it makes you lose money, and the other is that it’s so inconvenient to customers."

Thing is, DRM is only a waste of money if you sincerely believe it's about piracy -- which I don't. There's enough evidence to demonstrate that DRM does not work as advertised, but what it does do is allow publishers to exert even greater control over their paying consumers, and keep tabs on their habits. When you remember that publishers think like jealous boyfriends, then DRM makes perfect sense.

Paradox CEO Calls DRM a 'Waste of Money' [Industry Gamers]








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BkV's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 18:34
BkV
I'm in the Matrix aren't I¿
A publisher ..........
Sæglópur's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 18:40
Sæglópur
Your paranoia about publishers is similar to my paranoia about the government, man. I'm like Dale from King of the Hill, without the hillbilly-ness and cigs.
Gorescream's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 18:46
Gorescream
bout goddamn time someone said it
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 18:46
killias2
I love Paradox so much.
BrowneyeWinkin's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 18:50
BrowneyeWinkin
No doubt in my mind that EA is using Origin to spy on its customers and record statistics to later be used in house or sold to outside partys.

but then again we are living in a post patriot act world so its safe to assume no matter what you are doing online, multiple eyes are watching o.o
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 19:05
Scuffles
Agree more, I could not.
JoeTheProYaKnow's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 19:21
JoeTheProYaKnow
Everyone has said it, but publishers and the like, simply do not listen. DRM discourages piracy, but does so very little to prevent it. It only creates another unforeseen aspect to have to provide support. What is worse is overkill DRM causes people who would otherwise legally buy a game to either avoid it or pirate it. Why force your customers to have to adopt something that benefits no one and punishes themselves? I cannot tell you how many games I have avoided due to overly ridiculous DRM (I am looking at you Ubisoft). That said I am totally not opposed to CD keys or disc checks. Of course there is other kinds of DRM that is not problematic, but when you start limiting the customer, you have to ask whether it is justified.
Spaz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 20:05
Spaz
After seeing the filth that publishers throw at their customers in the name of profit time and time again, Jim's stance is understandable.
The Cast's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 20:20
The Cast
When I read that, I actually wonder why they even got involved in business to begin with? Did these boards just got involved purely for the money and didn't even teach themselves how a industry works? Shouldn't there be some requirement of understanding said industry to avoid decisions like these? They're changing the rules and making even more inconveniences for consumers FOR these suckers, this group of people who don't fraking understand how to solve any god damn problem that involves compromise that can benefit everyone in a way. The consumers voice solutions but the top heads bend to the whims of people who wouldn't even know they've already destroyed a industry all because they weren't able to make the exact same amount of money with little issue before.

Actually, looking at the decisions these industries head made in the past, I've come to the conclusion that it's exactly that. More so with the MPAA and RPAA, it isn't about adapting, it's about not accepting that, in order to survive, you need to accept that you may have to make less money then God then usual (not to mention our economy is shit as of this moment), otherwise, both of these industries would have wised up 10 fucking years ago to avoid all this shit but no, they're willing to act like fucking babies over the fact they may not be able to snort the EXACT, EXACT, EXFUCKINGACT amount of cocaine off a hooker's ass back in their glory days, even if that meant the destruction of their own industries!
PrinceHeir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 20:53
PrinceHeir
this guy knows what he's saying :P
Paroxysm's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 21:00
Paroxysm
I never thought about paradox's drm policy since they never hassled me about it. I just enjoyed their games. Now we know why. Keep it up.
PalinRMA's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 21:31
PalinRMA
Paradox uses Steam, lol.
ElektroDragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 22:38
ElektroDragon
FINALLY, someone who GETS IT! Bravo Paradox!
chaosmeika's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/25/2012 23:41
chaosmeika
I'm curious he had a statement at all considering Paradox published a rather broken and buggy game.
tekbunny's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2012 02:35
tekbunny
@Palin

*facepalm*
Francisco Medina's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2012 07:46
Francisco Medina
and this is why i never pirate paradox games
Davedude's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2012 12:06
Davedude
Ubisoft can eat a big fat dick. I will never buy Assassins Creed games so long as they have that retarded DRM on them, and as a PC only gamer I'm missing out on what is probably a good game series this gen.
Davedude's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2012 12:14
Davedude
@Palin
Steam is hardly an intrusive DRM. Origin will scan your computer and send back details about everything to EA. SecurROM (sp?) can cause a lot of issues with the game and require support help to get through. Ubisoft implements an "always online policy" for a lot of their games.

Steam lets you activate security features similar to Origin and Ubisoft to provide security for your account, but they're completely optional. The only real DRM issue is that you can't have your account online with 2 computers at the same time. You can still play games in offline mode, however.
MrBoBo1's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2012 12:14
MrBoBo1
Majika pretty much old sold every Ubisoft game on the pc.
Something like 1 million units with 4 million DLC units sold.
Valued Rug's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2012 12:48
Valued Rug
@Palin From the sound of it, you could easily go find their game and pirate it. Why even complain about their chosen distribution method? Steam allows access to paying customers. If you want good games, you need good people to work on them. I can tell you from experience that 99% of developers need a check each month, so they work for a developer. Only a tiny number of people put out games "for fun". And if you name the successful ones, you are again looking at a tiny slice of a slice of developers that have 1-2 years in their early 20's to take that plunge.

@chaosmeika - Their game was released earlier than planned. This is exactly the argument that publishers would take - "see, if you'd gone with us, our testers would've found those bugs". And the publisher would've taken 85% of the profit, on a good day.
BoomingEchoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2012 13:46
BoomingEchoes
When you spend so much time, effort and money trying to protect yourself, but you don't actually do a very good job at protecting yourself because people always find a way around it, then yeah, its a complete waste.

So, yeah, Paradox is right.
Glitchmaster8's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/26/2012 23:19
Glitchmaster8
Well, for those who don't know because everything has been great for them, Steam sucks ball-sweat when it doesn't work. Here is a small list of the shit I have to go through with Steam.

1. Desktop icons don't install in working condition.
2. Patches are ridiculous in the amount of time it takes to get them.
3. Offline mode can only be turned on while you are connected to the internet so you are screwed if your ethernet cord gets borrowed or the large line gets damaged.
4. Starting up a game takes so long because Steam has to start first and continue running, taking up valuable processing power.

It has gotten so bad that I don't even bother with Steam unless I have no choice like with Magicka or Terraria. Steam has been filled with more trouble than any DRM has caused me and I have little hope it will get much better.

Even physical copies of games are not free from its claws. Civilization V was purchased by me in physical form. Box, disks, bigass manual, and you know what I had to download first when I popped the disk in? Steam. And then I had to download Civilization V too. WTF?! It took me hours too. Valve really has outdone everyone else with this bullshit. Fuck Steam and fuck horrible programming teams and fuck publishers too while I'm at it.

Sorry, I got a little ranty there. You would too if you had to jump through hoops to play your some of your favorite games. I apologize for my foul language.
chaosmeika's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2012 16:44
chaosmeika
@Valued Rug: Agreed until you noticed they had enough time to make DLC. A healthy balance of patch updates and DLC would have been smart, with a stronger focus on fixing game breaking issues. You shouldn't make comments about issues as a publisher if you have your own problems pending. Fix yourself, aim to be a better company and let your games speak for themselves. DRM issues being what they are will continue to happen until every gamer decides to protest it. You don't like DRM, do not purchase any more games from EA that have it and make sure you're not alone.
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