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magicka has been available as a boxed copy here in germany for ages
at last being a gamer in germany has advantages.
at last being a gamer in germany has advantages.
^What he said.
If you go for the cheapest new game, you buy it digital (Steam, D2D - whatever). I see no point in paying $50 for a new game that will go on a 50% off sale in 1-2 months.
If you go for the cheapest new game, you buy it digital (Steam, D2D - whatever). I see no point in paying $50 for a new game that will go on a 50% off sale in 1-2 months.
At least in the UK Cities in Motion was always a retail product, and steamworks at that, £12 or something equally mad at release, as crazy as steam sales are, retailer price wars are better
Countries like Australia, Germany, Poland, and several other eastern European states still have a huge PC gaming retail scene.
The US though is all about digital for PC.
Which is good for the publishers/devs, since they make more money in a digital sale than a retail sale.
The US though is all about digital for PC.
Which is good for the publishers/devs, since they make more money in a digital sale than a retail sale.
i live in Poland - it's all about RETAIL in terms of PC gaming:
games are cheaper - all new games cost up to 30$ on launch(yes DOLLARS, not EUROS). except for activision products.
most games get budget re-release about 2 months after launch with all DLC/patches on disc for about 15-20$ and often includes soundtrack or printed artbook/game guide.
after 5-6 months game usually goes to 5-10$ re-release or as anthologies(nearly year ago i picked up Warhammer: Dawn of War anthology that included Dawn of War and its all expansions for 8$)
many indie games are released in retail in special editions and still cost less than on Steam even DURING Steam sale. i picked up Super Meat Boy for 15$ at launch and it came with soundtrack, poster, artbook and ingame content. Machinarium with poster, soundtrack and steel case costs 15$.
Serious Sam HD Gold(both HD games and originals) costs here 15$.
usually, there are entire sections just for PC games with each genre getting it's own shelf with 4-5 dozens of games and additional shelfs for budget re-releases.
so yeah, you guys can bash retail all you want - but we're getting games at retail and for much lower price.
games are cheaper - all new games cost up to 30$ on launch(yes DOLLARS, not EUROS). except for activision products.
most games get budget re-release about 2 months after launch with all DLC/patches on disc for about 15-20$ and often includes soundtrack or printed artbook/game guide.
after 5-6 months game usually goes to 5-10$ re-release or as anthologies(nearly year ago i picked up Warhammer: Dawn of War anthology that included Dawn of War and its all expansions for 8$)
many indie games are released in retail in special editions and still cost less than on Steam even DURING Steam sale. i picked up Super Meat Boy for 15$ at launch and it came with soundtrack, poster, artbook and ingame content. Machinarium with poster, soundtrack and steel case costs 15$.
Serious Sam HD Gold(both HD games and originals) costs here 15$.
usually, there are entire sections just for PC games with each genre getting it's own shelf with 4-5 dozens of games and additional shelfs for budget re-releases.
so yeah, you guys can bash retail all you want - but we're getting games at retail and for much lower price.
In the USA, retail PC games are kind of a joke.
In any case, I could bite on the Hearts of Iron collection at a stupidly low price. I have the base game, but it'd probably be cheaper to buy this on super sale than upgrade that purchase.
In any case, I could bite on the Hearts of Iron collection at a stupidly low price. I have the base game, but it'd probably be cheaper to buy this on super sale than upgrade that purchase.
These days, for me to pick up a retail game when it's also available on Steam--especially if the game requires Steamworks anyway--the game would have to be cheaper than its digital version, or offer something the Steam version does not. That just doesn't happen very often.
Most local stores don't even carry PC games anymore, so unless Target advertizes a really good sale I usually have to go online to buy PC games anyway. For physical goods that means I'm stuck paying for shipping, and then I'll have to wait for the package to arrive and hope it doesn't get diverted along the way. Retail software also has to include the costs of things like packaging, distribution and "retail loss" (shoplifting,) so the MSRP is often higher than the digital equivalent.
Still, I know plenty of people who won't touch digital distribution due to the limits it places on the consumer, and having some retail competition often helps bring down prices. PC games at retail may not be the juggernaut they used to be, but they still have a purpose.
Most local stores don't even carry PC games anymore, so unless Target advertizes a really good sale I usually have to go online to buy PC games anyway. For physical goods that means I'm stuck paying for shipping, and then I'll have to wait for the package to arrive and hope it doesn't get diverted along the way. Retail software also has to include the costs of things like packaging, distribution and "retail loss" (shoplifting,) so the MSRP is often higher than the digital equivalent.
Still, I know plenty of people who won't touch digital distribution due to the limits it places on the consumer, and having some retail competition often helps bring down prices. PC games at retail may not be the juggernaut they used to be, but they still have a purpose.
Hope this means they fix Magicka. I prefer games on DVD, but retail prices are just not competitive.
@LittleMy,
that's only in US. in europe PC gaming is strong. frankly it's the console market that's a niche especially in central and eastern europe where many shops won't even sell console games while having entire sections for PC games with houndreds of titles available.
we have at least a 5-6 magazines about PC games(down from about a dozen that we had about 5 years agho) here each cost about 3-5euros and comes with several full games each months - usually one high profile title released about year or two ago and several newer niche titles or entire anthologies).
that's only in US. in europe PC gaming is strong. frankly it's the console market that's a niche especially in central and eastern europe where many shops won't even sell console games while having entire sections for PC games with houndreds of titles available.
we have at least a 5-6 magazines about PC games(down from about a dozen that we had about 5 years agho) here each cost about 3-5euros and comes with several full games each months - usually one high profile title released about year or two ago and several newer niche titles or entire anthologies).
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