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Pachter says gaming world isn't coordinated, causes delays photo

Recently it seems that the gaming industry has finally realized that releasing all of its vidoegames during the fourth quarter holiday season isn't the best plan of attack. Too many games get lost in the shuffle. This knowledge has brought about the idea that maybe one shouldn't release all of one's big releases against every other company's big releases. Because of Captain Obvious finally getting through to the game industry a plethora of holiday games have been delayed. But why the spate of delays? Why wasn't this all planned out?

Analyst Michael Pachter has the answers. "I think the game industry isn't particularly well-coordinated," he told Joystiq, noting that movies are able to get out of one another's way more easily, because if two movies come out at the same time then you can just check out one one week and the other the next. "But the game business is different," he said, "because you're not going to go out and buy three games in one month. ... Well, maybe you will, but the average consumer won't."

So it's tougher for the gaming industry to get it together and thus we get all these delays. What does that mean for the upcoming first quarter of 2010? Pachter thinks that the quarter will start having the same issues the holiday season does. "I think the biggest problem you're going to see is that Q1 is now equally crowded, especially considering they're going to be relatively low-dollar months," Pachter said. "Think of something like Darksiders coming then, I think it's going to be hard for a Darksiders to stand out."








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PKN's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 12:10
PKN
Really? Cordinated, causese, and "buy (sic)"? I can be hired to proofread if you'd like. Send me a PM if interested.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 12:22
Magesx
I wish I could make up stuff and get paid.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 12:26
Los255
"because if two movies come out at the same time then you can just check out one one week and the other the next"

NICE PROTIP

"because you're not going to go out and buy (sic) three games in one month. ... Well, maybe you will, but the average consumer won't."

In these times, obviously.
seamonkey420's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 12:32
seamonkey420
yup, sure could have used a few good games in june or july :(

early 2010 is going to be VERY crowded.

i love how everyone's afraid of modern warfare2 cannibalizing holiday sales; hello not all of us are obsessed w/FPS!! dumbest moves ever; atleast during holiday season; money is more out there and market is really bigger than after holiday time.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 12:32
Super Drybones
Impossible, I ctrl'ed "Wii HD"' on a Michael Pachter article and nothing came up.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 12:44
Chronic Logic
Games get pushed to Q1 to avoid Q4, then once Q1 gets too crowded, they push it back to Q2, then to Q3, then to Q4 to complete the vicious crowded cycle...
Infinite Combo's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 12:46
Infinite Combo
I thought 2009 was going to beat 2007 for the best year in gaming award. Oh well. I can wait.

This article is a good read to see exactly what big titles have been pushed to 2010 and which titles are still scheduled to release this year.

What the Hell Happened to 2009
DF's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 12:47
DF
Of course you can watch two movies in as many weeks (or less). They're cheaper than games and last at most three hours. Movies don't really need a commitment, yet games do. Unless your games play themselves. I know mine don't!
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 13:15
Chris Carter
@seamonkey
It's not the dumbest move ever. Just because a small minority isn't obsessed with FPS games doesn't mean the vast majority isn't. ODST and MW2 will absolutely dominate both the sales charts and online play for months after the delayed titles die.

I don't why the delays this year are such a big deal: they're are nothing new. Sure, it's an oddity that Modern Warfare 2 specifically pushed a bunch of games back a few months, but any old school gamers remember the huge Nintendo delays, especially Ocarina of Time? Month long delays>year long delays.

You're still getting a shit ton in 2009: blockbusters that will cater to any group.

RPG - Dragon Age, KH, Mario and Luigi, Spirit Tracks, Nostalgia
FPS - ODST, MW2, L4D2, Borderlands
Platformers - NEW SMB Wii, Boy and His Blob
Sports/Racing - Madden, Forza
Action - Assassin's Creed II, Uncharted 2, Brutal Legend, Scribblenauts
Rhythm - Rock Band Beatles (with the hype, it seems like everyone will buy it), Guitar Hero 5

Nearly all of these are "must haves" for the majority of consumers in those specific categories. Is your wallet that big?
Velt's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 13:38
Velt
Is not that stupid for a company to move a game from a busy Q4 for a nice and quiet Q1.
KaliKot's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 13:41
KaliKot
@Velt

its stupid if everyone else is doing so too. you're trying to prevent crowding of releases but it looks like Q1 will be more crowded than holiday season
JiR INC's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 13:42
JiR INC
I don't give a crap about whats hot or not, I know what games I wanna buy just sell it so I can buy it there you have your sale... but oh no... it has be in an open spot where it wont conflict. so how does the sports games cope with the commotion
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 14:12
Kryptinite
I love Pachter. That dude rocks faces.
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 14:17
runtheplacered
"I don't give a crap about whats hot or not, I know what games I wanna buy just sell it so I can buy it there you have your sale... but oh no... it has be in an open spot where it wont conflict. so how does the sports games cope with the commotion"

ego centrism ftw?
hickwarrior's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 14:47
hickwarrior
Meh, never really cared too much, unless there are a slew of psp and DS games I wanna play. Then it becomes a problem for me. But that's just me.
HerosPlayDumb's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 16:12
HerosPlayDumb
The constant delays only somewhat bother me because I waited for Duke Nukem Forever and Starcraft Ghost forever and it's annoying but whatever. The only problem I have with it is that they are worried about this economy, but I personally was able to increase my pay from $8/hr to $17/hr 6 months ago. So the money thing isn't really an issue for me even with rent and bills.
WarZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 18:17
WarZombie
It's annoying having to wait for good games, but you can't blame the game companies for being afriad of ODST and MW2 (Hell, even L4D2, which I think is close to or already eclipsed 3 Million sales). Those games are going to own the holiday season, it would be dangerous to launch games against those giants. Haven't you guys learned anything from previous sales numbers? You can't blame them AT ALL for not wanting to go against those games. And to those that are, I wish you the best of luck.
Losari's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 20:03
Losari
I don't blame them. I blame myself; everything is always my fault.
mrsatan's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 20:57
mrsatan
THANK GOD! We have Michael Patcher to keep us informed with useless obvious crap.
SyntaxError's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 22:11
SyntaxError
I want a job like this. I'd get paid for telling people the obvious!
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2009 22:44
hpv
"But the game business is different," he said, "because you're not going to go out and buy (sic) three games in one month. ... Well, maybe you will, but the average consumer won't."

Can I haz English on this English-language blog?

This isn't the first time and it's becoming extremely embarrassing not just for Matthew Razak but for the Destructoid editorial staff as well. Fix it or get rid of the problem.
Steel Squirrel's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 01:53
Steel Squirrel
That picture is awesome when you scroll down it on the front page. It is like an optical illusion.

Also... this guy is obviously a genius.
Kris S's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 02:06
Kris S
@HerosPlayDumb
Well hooray for you
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 05:08
Sexualchocolate
What about me? I'm not buying COD MW2 - Unless they suck my cock too for £55.

So what am I going to play over the Winter if all other games are delayed?

Fingers crossed for uncharted 2 staying on track for 2009.
Sean Daisy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/03/2009 06:21
Sean Daisy
I doubt publishers will be reading this, but here's a suggestion:
Release your game when it is ready.
We will buy it when we are ready.
The rest is down to whether or not the consumer is aware of your game, whether or not it can be easily purchased and whether or not it holds consumer appeal and value.
If your game scores big plusses in these areas then it will sell well during the holidays no matter when you release it.
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