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Pachter: Modern Warfare 2's UK price is an evil test photo

Michael Pachter, industry analyst and professional guess-barbarian, has stated that evil publisher Activision's decision to price Modern Warfare 2 at £54.99 has nothing to do with a weak pound. The excuse of a poor UK economy has been cast aside by the almighty Pachter, who instead accuses the nefarious company of simply charging what it knows it can get away with.

"The price increase is a business decision," he explains. "Activision knows it has a ‘hot’ game, knows that the market will pay an additional 10 percent, and has decided to increase price accordingly."

I think we all knew that Activision was just being bastardly, but it's always nice to have such thoughts validated elsewhere. Pachter also notes that the pound is stronger than it was when Call of Duty: World at War was released, lending further evidence of Activision's excuses being horsesh*t. 

It seems that the malevolent publisher is doing what Microsoft did with Braid -- testing the water to see if its consumers are loyal/gullible enough to pay for a price hike, thus setting a brand new pricing precedent. I hope against hope that it fails and Activision gets stung for its greed and hubris, but we all know that's going to happen. UK gamers will make MW2 soar to the top of the charts, letting publishers know that they can get away with a brand new price point in the UK. 

Thus a sad new age shall begin.








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Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:03
Aurain
Cunts
koehler83's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:04
koehler83
I for one will wait a decade for any game to come down below CDN$40 before picking it up. Or I'll just buy it used if the publisher refuses to let the price fall. Uncharted, I'm looking squarely in your direction.
Jakysan's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:05
Jakysan
The UK has tv's? Let alone videogame consoles!? When did this happen? At least they are so in the stoneage that they are without broadband. If I had to play them buggers online I'd have to find a ship to throw some tea over!


Hah.

So at that pricepoint the game will still e worth it. You know it.
Sean Carey's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:11
Sean Carey
If Mumm-Ra = EA, then Pachter = Snarf?
Sean Carey's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:12
Sean Carey
I mean Activision -- still not used to EA not being the prime evil yet.
Spectreman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:15
Spectreman
* The world now depends on UK not buy this games. We are counting with Jim cousins.
Tha_Meat's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:17
Tha_Meat
I'm gonna need those night vision goggles when my power gets shut off!
Isay Isay's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:18
Isay Isay
@walkyourpath

No, Pachter = a less accurate Sword of Omens
gorgomin's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:21
gorgomin
Buggery.

and @jakysan i know you were joking but

"Scottish inventor John Logie Baird demonstrated the transmission of moving silhouette images in London in 1925, and of moving, monochromatic images in 1926. Baird's scanning disk produced an image of 30 lines resolution, just enough to discern a human face, from a double spiral of lenses."

and just in case you find that hard understand, that basicly says television was invented over here.
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:22
ChaosTeaCup
Hey, a lot of UK outlets sell all new PS3 games at 50 quid, and they still seem to sell by the boat-load.



Don't they?
DF's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:25
DF
A friend in England told me about this and what other companies are doing. Charging both $59.99 and £59.99 for stuff, or $150 and £150 for Windows 7...I forget the exact prices, but the fact that the numbers are same but the values are not is rather aggravating.

I can suddenly see a mass wave of imports from here...
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:27
Chronic Logic
If you Brits really hate the price that much, you could just import the game.
Bulkmailer's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:28
Bulkmailer
That's fairly retarded Chronic.
Bulkmailer's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:29
Bulkmailer
Oh damn, you're joking.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:30
Aurain
Chaos:
40 - 42 is the normal price.
45 rarely.

Doomsday:
£ = $ is a common conversion.
Of course, £59.99 and $59.99 should be £59.99/$98.74 as of today's market.
DF's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:39
DF
@Aurain: I know, but something bothers me about that. I know USD is weak, but that means other people are paying more of stronger money (as is the case here) for the same thing we're buying here.

I don't get econ and I don't pretend to, but something just doesn't seem right is all. =P
Miguelcar808's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:45
Miguelcar808
Take 2 did the same thing with GTA4
Your Moms Hot Lover's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:46
Your Moms Hot Lover
In a market economy price is dictated by what people are willing to pay. Maybe triple AAA titles should have a higher price point.

Hell, if come xmas season I can only afford to buy one game, I'd rather pay a little more for MW2 than another new release that looks good, but is a bit more of a risk.
Quisling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:48
Quisling
Oh God Jim, you're absolutely right. How dare a publisher decide to actually make people pay what a game is actually worth in a free market system?!?! That's the most horrible thing I've ever heard of!

Seriously, I'm really sick of you and your trolling. It isn't even good news most of the time. You write like a student just out of secondary school, and your bullshit reverberates throughout this site.

You are the cancer that is killing Dtoid. You are the reason I no longer spend any reasonable amount of time on this site. Stop writing about shit, take an advanced writing class, clean up your act.

I wish I could hate you to death through the internet.
Kaden101's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:51
Kaden101
Not a change I'll be paying £55 for any game.

Also, downloaded the trailer for MW2 from the US PSN store yesterday, & had a look. Graphics looked a bit naff..or maybe that's because I played MW1 on the PC.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:54
Aurain
@Doomsday.

Yeah, I was posting to help back up your point. It kills me.
The fact our hardware and service is inferior, (When it comes to Sony anyway) is a whole different kettle of fish.

@Your Moms Hot Lover
Define Triple AAA (9 A's?). Every game dev in the world thinks their next game is going to be AAA standard. So they'll charge 55 quid too. And then MW3 will be 65, because they think their game is AAAA standard, but so will the other devs.
It's a radical example, but it's only going to start a trend that doesn't need encouraging.
Tattoojoe3rd's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:57
Tattoojoe3rd
The only people in the UK that I think have the right to bitch at all are the gamers there that will be buying the 360 version. I say this because the PS3 players don't have
Tattoojoe3rd's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 11:58
Tattoojoe3rd
To pay for online multiplayer sorry for the double post sir
Drunk Ste's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 12:00
Drunk Ste
I'll still be able to pick it up for £45 at launch, not that I'm be in any rush to after all of this shit.
Really all they have done is stop me from picking up the Hardened Edition because I'm not paying £70 for a game. COD1 will most likely be £10/1200 separately so for £55 and I'd miss is the metal case and art book. The £120 Prestige Edition makes the £70 Legendary Edition of Halo 3 looks like a great deal now.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 12:02
Jim Sterling
"Stop writing about shit, take an advanced writing class, clean up your act."

No.
Swizzler121's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 12:04
Swizzler121
what game companies don't realize a sequel isn't the same game. COD4 was a good game, that doesn't mean MW2 isn't going to be a crapfest. L4D was a good game, L$D2 is going to be a crapfest.
CRAZYAPE69's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 12:15
CRAZYAPE69
Ok, if thats how they want to play, fuck this game, i know for a fact that all the people i know won't pay that much for a game that should be 39.99 on release.
Analoge's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 12:16
Analoge
"Stop writing about shit, take an advanced writing class, and clean up your act."

Fixed.
Drunk Ste's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 12:17
Drunk Ste
@ Quisling
"How dare a publisher decide to actually make people pay what a game is actually worth in a free market system?!?! That's the most horrible thing I've ever heard of!"

£54.99 = $90.24
My wallet finds your sarcasm insulting.
CRAZYAPE69's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 12:23
CRAZYAPE69
@Jakysan: Just go crawl in a corner and die, you are not worthy of being one of our retarded siblings that sailed over to america because they couldn't handle our lockdown of religious views. Afterall, what retards would sail to Holand, not like it there so want to sail back but somehow end up in America.
Bioautographical's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 12:25
Bioautographical
@Quisling

Hey, fuckring, I don't think I read anything that said Activision doesn't have the right to price their games however they wanted. All I saw was a hope that it backfires on them, and I hope it does too, and I myself support the free market. Half of the free market is people deciding whether or not they feel something is WORTH the price charged for it; if I happen to think people are idiots for judging Modern Warfare 2 worth THAT much money, that still doesn't put me at odds with support of the free market.

I think people should have a little more respect for themselves and their money, and refuse to buy. Market does its job, Activision suffers, they drop price to something more reasonable. And when I say reasonable, I mean something that translates to a value roughly equivalent to what we're getting in the US. Why is the exact same game suddenly "more valuable" in the UK? It's not. Activision are just being cunts.

Also, step in front of a bus. Thanks.
Projectexodus's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 12:35
Projectexodus
Mowhahahaha! God bless the strong Norwegian economy! :D

A game here used to cost 20% more than in the UK, but now the prices are equal!
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 12:46
BS3 Owner
@ DTOID

Autobiographical Wins!
/discussion.
justnotennis's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 12:53
justnotennis
Why do publishers crap on us? Fuck the excuse of the economy, we really need to actually call them on the price hike here in the uk for everything.
*sadly i know we wont but i mean really come on!*

BTW Game.co.uk and amazon are both doing it for £44 as a side note
DF's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 13:06
DF
@Aurain: Ah, whoops. Still booting up when I wrote that, so uh, sorry. XD I don't want to start paying in excess of $80 for standard games (we had that already in the earlier years of consoledom, as I still have an old promotional comic somewhere that had some version of Street Fighter II SNES sold at Toys 'R Us for a hearty $74.99). $60 is enough. It'd be nice if everyone else had to pay equal amounts as far as value goes, but if people decided "Oh hey, let's start charging the Americans $90+! They'll eat it up" then I can see gaming falling hard. And probably a higher rate of piracy, who knows.

The same friend who told me about this said that it wouldn't be so bad if this was the initial price--sorta like "you pay this much to be the first to play, and after two weeks we bring it down to normal price." Of course, people could have a problem with that, but if you really want to have the game "early," then you're gonna have to shell out for it. Otherwise, you can wait.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 13:06
Jon B
So... how much is the PC version?
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 13:07
Takeshi
£55 pounds is exactly what I've paid for Uncharted. I don't really care about this. It's nothing if you look at how long you will probably play the game. If it's as good as COD4 I will play it for about 2 years straight.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 13:40
Holyetheline
@Chronic Logic

And pay for those ridiculous shipping prices?! I don't think that's a very good idea... lol. Luckily for me I don't live in the UK where MW2 will be slightly more expensive.
Nogarda's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 14:00
Nogarda
Are you seriously telling me you didnt see greed as the top three reasons as to why mw2 was getting the price hike. The big difference is other games won't sell at that price here. Obviously some people will IF other games decide to do it.

The only reason Activision partnered up with Blizzard was because they masterbated every night to all the money they were making. thier just glad they are getting in on it now. Thier only pissed they couldnt buy Blizzard out enough to absorb the company whole.

So MW2's price hike is for
1. greed
2. greed
3. greed
4. we're activision, now dance f*****s!
Your Moms Hot Lover's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 14:03
Your Moms Hot Lover
@aurain - the point I'm making is that they should try to raise the price periodically. It's just good business. If they don't try, the industry won't know what the right price point is. It doesn't matter if the title is actually AAA or not, all that matters is perceived market value. i.e. how much we all are willing to pay.

What I was saying was I personally am willing to pay more for MW2 than say, Dante's Inferno. Therefore, in my case, they are making the absolute right decision, because they will get more money out of me.

It doesn't make them "cunts" as many people are commenting. It's means they want to *shock horror* make some money. How dare they.

This is how the UK government has gotten away with raising the tax on smokes so much over the last 20 years. Everyone complains, buys them anyway.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 14:31
Aurain
@Your Moms Hot Lover.

The 40 pound price point had been around for years, It's tried and tested. It was fine for the PS1-era. It was fine for the PS2-era. It's fine this era. The reason why people are in uproar over this is because it's not trying to find the right price point, It's pure greed.

Just because you think MW2 is worth more than Dante's Inferno, to use your example, does not justify potentially upsetting the balance of computer game pricing, Not everyone has 15 quid extra to blow on each game.

How much money do you think they make of these games in the first place? The extra money on top will mean Activision make another couple of million ontop of the millions they're going to make anyway. It's nothing but greed.

Comparing this to raising the taxes on Cigarettes is simply mindboggling.
The government raises taxes on Cigarettes to cover the cost of Cancer Treatment for Smokers on the NHS. If it was up to me, I'd bang an extra fiver on every pack. If you're going to give yourself Cancer, you can pay for the Chemo too.
Br0th3rGr1mm's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 14:41
Br0th3rGr1mm
There is a big difference between wanting to make "some" more money and selling a game for 150% the price you sell it in another country. Now if someone shows me that taxes and import fees are costing them $30 per unit, I'll shut up now...otherwise they are WAY past wanting to make a bit more cash and need to be called more than fithy female naughty parts.
Your Moms Hot Lover's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 15:52
Your Moms Hot Lover
@aurain. "How much money do you think they make of these games in the first place?". Not anywhere near as much as you and everyone else seems to think.

Forbes breaks down the cost here: http://www.forbes.com/2006/12/19/ps3-xbox360-costs-tech-cx_rr_game06_1219expensivegames.html

You'll see the profit margin for the publisher is only 1.5%

And even if it is "pure greed". So what? What's wrong with that? That's the driving force behind capitalism. They don't owe us gamers anything.

Plus your historic price point actually argues FOR a price hike. 40 pounds in 1995 equates to 60 pounds now due to inflation alone.

I agree with your comment about smoking - I was just using that as an example of a product that gets massive price hikes but people keep buying.
Infininja's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 16:06
Infininja
@Quisling:

Jim Sterling is the reason I read Dtoid. So there is that.
KainX's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 16:09
KainX
Simple solution i always use for souless CEO's .... do your best to buy the games used. then they get nothing.

And no, i would not buy a used game to save 5$ if the game company was even half ass decent. (like valve and any non EA company)

I choose to support worthy companies that deserve the support, by using my wallet.

just think of it this way, you stop buying greed driven companies games, they soon go out of business, therefore teaching other companies to stop being pricks and make QUALITY games.

also, they wonder why more and more people pirate. this here is one prime reason
ViewFinder's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 18:37
ViewFinder
Well I'll be just checked the Euro price here at Finland. 70+(around 60 pounds) euros almost in all stores, God I just hate this country and it's pricing policy, first game gets the usual $=€ treatment and then some utterly stupid reason some additional 10 € price jack up.
Thank god there is always possibility to import games.

Also, Activision are greedy bastards.
moot button's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 20:01
moot button
I... I agree with Pachter on something... this is a dark day
KrazyKraut's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/23/2009 03:11
KrazyKraut
wtf m8s stop crying....call of duty 4 cost 65 € after 2 yrs of release.
and its worth for the mp....if they dont make it like valve with l4d2.
TheToiletDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/23/2009 03:16
TheToiletDuck
@KrazyKraut: Okay, so let's say it is worth the extra 10quid for multiplayer alone (p.e. it's not). What about the other games that dont even have multiplayer that are now set at the new price standard. Look at the big picture, a price hike is never a good thing, no matter how much you love an unreleased game.
TheToiletDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/23/2009 03:16
TheToiletDuck
p.e = p.s. ... goddammit.
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