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Half of planet earth has found this game to be garbage. It had a great first week, but I really don't think it has the legs to get to 1.5 million.
I suppose the fact that the game took so long to come out, that DNF was almost like a new IP being launched. One that had 14+ years of hype behind it, then a big critical backlash, so I can see why it didn't do as well as expected.
I´m sorry for being unoriginal, but... no shit, Sherlock.
The game has been underwhelming both financially and critically. So I would say it´s already a disapointment
The game has been underwhelming both financially and critically. So I would say it´s already a disapointment
I loved DNF, but ill agree that it won't sell worth shit.
Also, Patcher hatin on Jim's fat man swagger.
Also, Patcher hatin on Jim's fat man swagger.
Fuck this man knows everything.
What, what, what? This game shipped 10 billions units to retail? I dub thee will sell well or thine name shant be PACHTER!
What, what, what? This game shipped 10 billions units to retail? I dub thee will sell well or thine name shant be PACHTER!
It's apparently in to rag on Michael Pachter, but I think what a lot of people overlook (especially on this site) is that Pachter isn't saying these things for the benefit of the general gaming public.
He says these things for market shareholders who don't know shit one about the gaming companies they put money into-- they just want to see the dollar count go up, or see ahead of the curve to know when they should sell if it's going to go down.
Isn't that obvious?
He says these things for market shareholders who don't know shit one about the gaming companies they put money into-- they just want to see the dollar count go up, or see ahead of the curve to know when they should sell if it's going to go down.
Isn't that obvious?
@Ali D: Ah yes, true enough. For a moment there I had forgotten.
So I guess it is fair to say that for all the people taking potshots at Michael for making large amounts of money to say fairly obvious stuff is:
LOL U MAD CUZ BAD, BRO?
So I guess it is fair to say that for all the people taking potshots at Michael for making large amounts of money to say fairly obvious stuff is:
LOL U MAD CUZ BAD, BRO?
I genuinely thought DNF was a fun experience, and still think it has a decent bit of mileage left in the idiot frat boy crowd which I've heard populating the Dukematch servers since launch. Those are still some damn good sales, as Jim pointed out, and Gearbox has made it pretty clear that they intend to make a sequel.
@OMGLX
Pachter is a target because he makes some of his cash from spewing his tripe to gamers on gametrailers, we wouldnt even know about this muppet if it wasn't for his "Pach Attack" nonsense.
He deserves all the hate he gets.
Pachter is a target because he makes some of his cash from spewing his tripe to gamers on gametrailers, we wouldnt even know about this muppet if it wasn't for his "Pach Attack" nonsense.
He deserves all the hate he gets.
So is this another Borderlands prediction or Mafia II predicition? Two-ke Two-kem seems to be the latter.
@Wodge -- So, shouldn't Gametrailers be at fault from that logic? Or the people who do view his ENTIRELY OPTIONAL segment on GT that makes them continue to make them?
I must have seen dozens of copies of DNF in my local game stores. I did see someone buying the balls of steel edition yesterday while I was queuing for my copy of Shadows of the Damned D:
@OMGLX
Stop saying things that make sense. Everyone knows it's way easier to jump on the Hater's Club Bandwagon than it is to simply ignore something that has no bearing on you whatsoever. :p
Stop saying things that make sense. Everyone knows it's way easier to jump on the Hater's Club Bandwagon than it is to simply ignore something that has no bearing on you whatsoever. :p
LOL!
pachter: "bet on duke"
[sales not as good as predicted]
pachter: "don't bet on duke"
WHAT DO THEY PAY THIS GUY FOR?
pachter: "bet on duke"
[sales not as good as predicted]
pachter: "don't bet on duke"
WHAT DO THEY PAY THIS GUY FOR?
"DNF single-handedly justifies the need for a used market, says I."
Not to mention the videogame blog industry and the practice of releasing demos/betas prior to a game's release. If it hadn't been for both of those lifesavers, I might have accidentally bought this pile of bile.
Not to mention the videogame blog industry and the practice of releasing demos/betas prior to a game's release. If it hadn't been for both of those lifesavers, I might have accidentally bought this pile of bile.
@OMGLX and Xwnoslave42:
Waaaaaaa! LEAVE [PATCHER] ALONE!
Are you huge Patcher fans or just standing behind WWJD ideals?
Waaaaaaa! LEAVE [PATCHER] ALONE!
Are you huge Patcher fans or just standing behind WWJD ideals?
@Mr Andy Dixon
"Not to mention the videogame blog industry and the practice of releasing demos/betas prior to a game's release."
Funny story, I was told personally that Kotaku wasn't going to be running their reviews before or on the day of release any more. That reviewing a game a full week later gave a "real world perspective" or something like that.
I don't know whether their reasoning is truthful or not, I'm not going to bother to judge, but I can't help but think that if we waited with baited breath for their reviews most people would say "fuck it" and go buy the game and try it themselves.
"Not to mention the videogame blog industry and the practice of releasing demos/betas prior to a game's release."
Funny story, I was told personally that Kotaku wasn't going to be running their reviews before or on the day of release any more. That reviewing a game a full week later gave a "real world perspective" or something like that.
I don't know whether their reasoning is truthful or not, I'm not going to bother to judge, but I can't help but think that if we waited with baited breath for their reviews most people would say "fuck it" and go buy the game and try it themselves.
@SlyKill:
I like his segment, and I appreciate his insight on some things, where there is something I can take form it that I didn't already anticipate or know. I find his viewpoints on gaming to be fairly salient, if shallow-- I know for me it makes me more knowledgeable from an economic point of view, so I can explain my gaming habit to my older peers and parents on some level somewhat more complex than "I shoot stuff, I likes it."
I just don't think that the whole Pachter crusade is one worth waging, but I don't run the site. You could argue I only make things worth by even coming in here and expressing an opinion that differs from what would obviously be shared within. I just think there are people more deserving of the derision than Michael who self-acknowledges that he doesn't really understand why he's suddenly become relevant in the gaming community, and that he doesn't really have any sage advice for the hardcore gamer outside of the occasional early bit of inside information.
But, perhaps more truthful than anything else I write-- why am I bothering having a discussion with people who already have their mind made on Pachter and by extension anyone who says anything otherwise? It's not like I'll, or anyone else, will be doing any convincing of people already predisposed to hating on someone for talking. I don't know, that's a good point.
On a different note, dig the icon. Love QotSA, especially in the Rated R / Songs for the Deaf era. You can still label me moronic though, despite my apparent pandering to your music tastes. :p
I like his segment, and I appreciate his insight on some things, where there is something I can take form it that I didn't already anticipate or know. I find his viewpoints on gaming to be fairly salient, if shallow-- I know for me it makes me more knowledgeable from an economic point of view, so I can explain my gaming habit to my older peers and parents on some level somewhat more complex than "I shoot stuff, I likes it."
I just don't think that the whole Pachter crusade is one worth waging, but I don't run the site. You could argue I only make things worth by even coming in here and expressing an opinion that differs from what would obviously be shared within. I just think there are people more deserving of the derision than Michael who self-acknowledges that he doesn't really understand why he's suddenly become relevant in the gaming community, and that he doesn't really have any sage advice for the hardcore gamer outside of the occasional early bit of inside information.
But, perhaps more truthful than anything else I write-- why am I bothering having a discussion with people who already have their mind made on Pachter and by extension anyone who says anything otherwise? It's not like I'll, or anyone else, will be doing any convincing of people already predisposed to hating on someone for talking. I don't know, that's a good point.
On a different note, dig the icon. Love QotSA, especially in the Rated R / Songs for the Deaf era. You can still label me moronic though, despite my apparent pandering to your music tastes. :p
@tuoman
"He's so good at his job. Can we collectively pitch in to give him a raise?"
... So his job is stating the obvious... hell I can do that you should collectively fork your money over to me. Wake me up when one of his predictions goes against the flow and turns out to be spot on.
"He's so good at his job. Can we collectively pitch in to give him a raise?"
... So his job is stating the obvious... hell I can do that you should collectively fork your money over to me. Wake me up when one of his predictions goes against the flow and turns out to be spot on.
"On the bright side, he reckons L.A. Noire will be incredibly popular after learning that Take-Two had to ship four million units to retail."
Hardly a 'prediction' exactly...
Hardly a 'prediction' exactly...
@SlyKill
Neither. I was attempting to point out how this article serves no purpose other than to garner page hits. Mission accomplished Mr. Sterling :D
Neither. I was attempting to point out how this article serves no purpose other than to garner page hits. Mission accomplished Mr. Sterling :D
@psycho terror2 - Hey, IDIOT - everyone thought DNF was going to rock before launch, which is why it sold as many as it did (ie - pre-orders). Once it came out, and the reviews dropped, most everyone realized it was shit, so that's when the sales stopped.
What he said, and why, is accurate.
What he said, and why, is accurate.
@xenoslave42 - FFS, why do you haters keep vomiting up that bullshit? Wait, don't answer that, answer this - if you think Jim's articles are pointless attempts at pageviews, why the fuck do you read them... and then COMMENT? Do you realize how stupid you make yourself sound?
@nanowerx I thought the demo featured mediocre gameplay and fairly awful graphics. Is the full game really that much better?
@BoomingEchoes
"I can't help but think that if we waited with baited breath for their reviews most people would say 'fuck it' and go buy the game and try it themselves."
I have no doubt about this at all. Hell, I'm not even sure I could resist, if I was excited for a game...
"I can't help but think that if we waited with baited breath for their reviews most people would say 'fuck it' and go buy the game and try it themselves."
I have no doubt about this at all. Hell, I'm not even sure I could resist, if I was excited for a game...
@DrStayPuft
Thus the 'Mission accomplished' statement at the end of my last post. I was yet again making a joke, this time at my own expense. It's called 'self deprecating humor'; look into it sometime. Also, after several years visiting the site, I have developed a grudging respect for Jim and his antics. Definitely not a hater, just trolling Jim like he loves trolling us.
Thus the 'Mission accomplished' statement at the end of my last post. I was yet again making a joke, this time at my own expense. It's called 'self deprecating humor'; look into it sometime. Also, after several years visiting the site, I have developed a grudging respect for Jim and his antics. Definitely not a hater, just trolling Jim like he loves trolling us.
@Mr Andy Dixon
"Hell, I'm not even sure I could resist, if I was excited for a game..."
Exactly.. I mean, I even almost did it with THIS game and I already knew it was crap from playing the members club demo and read Jim's (and others) reviews..
The pull of a game you were excited for, even after you've experienced/heard its complete shite, is a very very powerful thing.
"Hell, I'm not even sure I could resist, if I was excited for a game..."
Exactly.. I mean, I even almost did it with THIS game and I already knew it was crap from playing the members club demo and read Jim's (and others) reviews..
The pull of a game you were excited for, even after you've experienced/heard its complete shite, is a very very powerful thing.
@scuffles
I'm going to invent a way for people to read my sarcasm without having to write that I'm being sarcastic.
I'm going to invent a way for people to read my sarcasm without having to write that I'm being sarcastic.
So... If a well made game sells WELL, then that game will continue selling well... And if a poorly made game sells POORLY, it will continue to sell poorly?
PATCHER IS A FREAKING GEENIIUUUUSSSS!
PATCHER IS A FREAKING GEENIIUUUUSSSS!
You know what I find ironic? That Duke gas received glowing reviews and good sales in the UK, Jim's country if origin.
Charlie Brooker generation 1, Jim Sterling 0.
Charlie Brooker generation 1, Jim Sterling 0.
Well, then stop shoveling half-assed console ports to the PC crowd and get with the program I say! When you put an inferior platform as the lead target, you get inferior results...and in spades in this case.
Checkpoint saves, two weapon limit, Mario Brothers gameplay; yeah...console port. Won't buy it. Ever.
Checkpoint saves, two weapon limit, Mario Brothers gameplay; yeah...console port. Won't buy it. Ever.
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