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I want to say it might depend on the market they're refering to. If it's the 360 people then sure, the next CoD will probably sell as well as usual. But if the game ends up being apparently as badly done as it was for the PS3 and PC users, then EA may have a few more Battlefield sales on their end.
Then again this is the Call of Duty franchse. Fans may be retarded enough to buy into it regardless of how broken it is.
Then again this is the Call of Duty franchse. Fans may be retarded enough to buy into it regardless of how broken it is.
In other words, NO SHIT! Call of Duty is more popular, but Battlefield is still my go-to game online.
Probably won't outsell COD but i'd bet everything I own it will outperform critically and sell better than any other in the series. They're playing the hype game well, already showing snippets of gameplay, come E3 when everyone see's it played live it will be a big deal.
I don't think Battlefield will ever beat Call of Duty. A lot of players want the action localized they want a Hollywood explosive version of Counter Strike. That's just not the way Battlefield is.
And Pachter is a rotting piece of shit.
Since when does popular = good anyways? I'd rather play Battlefield, Team Fortress 2, or Halo, etc. than Call of Dicks any day.
Since when does popular = good anyways? I'd rather play Battlefield, Team Fortress 2, or Halo, etc. than Call of Dicks any day.
But EA doesn't have to outsell CoD for their games to be profitable. They could always wish for more money, but BattleField 3 will probably be a huge success even if CoD is unaffected.
It's like mainstream music, we can hate on it all we want, but less known artists and bands doesn't have to outsell them to get fans and gain some money. And just like music, we shouldn't care so much about who sells the most, I like my games/music just the same even with low sales.
It's like mainstream music, we can hate on it all we want, but less known artists and bands doesn't have to outsell them to get fans and gain some money. And just like music, we shouldn't care so much about who sells the most, I like my games/music just the same even with low sales.
Why do people listen when this guy talks? And I'm looking at YOU, gaming news sites. He's a fuckin tool that spouts off misinformed bullshit on a regular basis. I only partially agree with even this statement. BF3 might not outsell COD, but it is certainly gonna give it a run for its money.
EA is happy with the superior product though. With each consecutive release, more and more people are buying Battlefield. They're not ignorant enough to expect CoD sales to stop, but more than happy to enlighten players into another series.
And Ke$ha is better than Arcade Fire because she sells more. BF won't sell more, but it will be a better game.
I think CoD has cemented itself as a social tool much like Facebook not to the same extreme obviously, but it's become the go to game for teens and pre-teens who dint seem interested in playing much else despite quality and/or innovation. So patcher's probably right. However, I don't think it's a reason for EA to stop trying to make a "CoD killer." They may not succeed but I prefer the EA shooters personally. Perhaps they shouldn't be as obvious I suppose. Well, I'm headed to Target to pick up Crysis...
I will not be buying this years CoD because of Battlefield 3.
The replat value, for me, of a CoD game is maybe 48hrs online whereas Battlefield is closer to 120hrs+.
Call of Duty is more like Ford and Battlefield is more like Porche. It might sell less but the experience and quality is much, much better.....MWA HA HA
The replat value, for me, of a CoD game is maybe 48hrs online whereas Battlefield is closer to 120hrs+.
Call of Duty is more like Ford and Battlefield is more like Porche. It might sell less but the experience and quality is much, much better.....MWA HA HA
It's all about quality, not quantity. I'll buy BF3 and the next one, but I'll never buy another COD game again.
EA want to beat COD for sure. That means sell more not "be better" in the minds of some gamers. I think they should be able to do it, just not sure if they actually will. And we really don't know yet what kinda tricks COD may have up its sleave.
Will you stop posting his bullshit?
The more people ignore him , the quicker he'll realize his pathetic existence.
The more people ignore him , the quicker he'll realize his pathetic existence.
Battlefield 3 will overthrow CoD on PC, and will fail miserably to do so on consoles.
Considering CoD sells well on 3 major platforms and not just 1, it's inevitable that it won't overthrow CoD.
It'll still be a better game that the tripe Acti are putting out under the CoD name these days though.
Considering CoD sells well on 3 major platforms and not just 1, it's inevitable that it won't overthrow CoD.
It'll still be a better game that the tripe Acti are putting out under the CoD name these days though.
The real question is do we really want them to outsell Call of Duty?
After seeing Call of Duty descend from great United Offensive to the mediocre Black Ops and become a bigger seller for it I am actually quite happy that Battlefield 3 will try to fill in the shoes of its predecessor, Battlefield 2142, rather than trying to directly dethrone Call of Duty.
After seeing Call of Duty descend from great United Offensive to the mediocre Black Ops and become a bigger seller for it I am actually quite happy that Battlefield 3 will try to fill in the shoes of its predecessor, Battlefield 2142, rather than trying to directly dethrone Call of Duty.
fanboys will always fight, sales are one thing but winning GOTY for most of the major award shows is what shows the truth *ahem* RDR took all of them by storm and you dont see them trying to topple anyone else.
but i like the quality DICE puts into their stuff (EA i could care less about them), EVERY major BF installment (BF1942, BF2) they have build a new game engine for, IW engine has been the same since MW1 and even going back somemore, IW engine is basically still the same engine from CoD2 in many respects.
Moving ahead w innovation > reusing the same 4-5 year old engine for scheduled annual greed
BF3 probably wont take over the $$$ figures CoD has set world records with, but if it does do something good for the industry, is hopefully make the PC FPS community grateful for knowing someone still does care about the roots of where ALL these big names came from, something activision forgot long time ago *Bobby Kotick $ sign eyes* , Crysis, BF, CoD all got their credibility from its PC beginnings, don't ever forget that!
but i like the quality DICE puts into their stuff (EA i could care less about them), EVERY major BF installment (BF1942, BF2) they have build a new game engine for, IW engine has been the same since MW1 and even going back somemore, IW engine is basically still the same engine from CoD2 in many respects.
Moving ahead w innovation > reusing the same 4-5 year old engine for scheduled annual greed
BF3 probably wont take over the $$$ figures CoD has set world records with, but if it does do something good for the industry, is hopefully make the PC FPS community grateful for knowing someone still does care about the roots of where ALL these big names came from, something activision forgot long time ago *Bobby Kotick $ sign eyes* , Crysis, BF, CoD all got their credibility from its PC beginnings, don't ever forget that!
BFD Am I right? I am completely burned out on the COD series, but that is beside the point. For starters, they are COMPLETELY different games. Add to that, the fact that I can HONESTLY say I would rather NOT play Battlefield with 99% of the COD players I have encountered. The fact that the BF appeals to a niche audience is what has kept it golden for so many years.
As long as they leave prone, and jets in the console version of BF3, dice HAS my money already. Activision will be lucky if I ever give them a cent for another game. EVER.
As long as they leave prone, and jets in the console version of BF3, dice HAS my money already. Activision will be lucky if I ever give them a cent for another game. EVER.
I don't think it will in terms of units sold, but in terms of sheer awesomeness and longevity I think it definitely will. Enough can't be said about how great BF2 is...even to this day. Shame we had to wait this long but it looks like it will be worth it. :)
I'll almost certainly get BF3. The jury is out on the next CoD. I skipped Black Ops and didn't miss it one bit. I might want some CoD come the end of the year though.
Jim, I just want to say that I love the way you write your Pachter articles, complete with header images and nick names. They always get a hearty chuckle out of me!
Well.. hes probably right, COD sales just get bigger and bigger with each iteration. Soooooooo yeah.. It sucks to hear it, but its true.
I have figured out that Call of Duty is for white trash casuals. Someone with a a brain wouldn't buy that game up and put it at #1 on the NPD charts each months. Black Ops sucked hard. Battlefield 3 will be a far superior game, which is all I care about.
I don't think EA expects BF3 to sell more than the next CoD, but gaining more market share with every new game.
@RenegadePanda
"Am I the only one who was too disturbed at the header pic to actually read the article?"
I'm in the same boat; I just can't stop fapping!
"Am I the only one who was too disturbed at the header pic to actually read the article?"
I'm in the same boat; I just can't stop fapping!
In terms of sales? Probably not.
In terms of quality, Battlefield 3 will be....way, way better. No other way to put it.
All the cool people should play Battlefield 3.
In terms of quality, Battlefield 3 will be....way, way better. No other way to put it.
All the cool people should play Battlefield 3.
I don't like it when this happens, but I have to agree with patcher, COD will sell more than Battlefield 3 no matter what.
Oh, and since when did Battlefield "Always" beat COD critically ? As far as I know only BTFFL 2 has managed to accomplish that, but back then EA was king an COD was a WWII shooter. Funnily enough COD was considered to be the niche one of the two franchises back then.
Oh, and since when did Battlefield "Always" beat COD critically ? As far as I know only BTFFL 2 has managed to accomplish that, but back then EA was king an COD was a WWII shooter. Funnily enough COD was considered to be the niche one of the two franchises back then.
I felt black ops was the last hurrah of cod. Personally the whole series is in need of innovation badly. I'm not bashing blops, it was my fav of the series, but I'm done. Now battlefield 3, I will gobble dicks for that bitch. Dice always brings it. EA needs to calm down though. They will never be able to stop the cod train, it's a cultural phenom thing, like guitar hero(which activision also killed by milking it), which will eventually die off like they all do.
Of course it will outsell BF3. Anyone who thinks different isn't really thinking at all. CoD is a force to be reckoned with these days. However, Battlefield is my first love and if I ever had to choose between which MP shooter I have to play exclusively, it will always be Battlefield. God bless DICE.
@blahblahblah & others,
"Since when does popular = good anyways? I'd rather play Battlefield, Team Fortress 2, or Halo, etc. than Call of Dicks any day."
I really can't help it. Most of you have no idea what he's even saying. Nobody is commenting on whether BF3 will be good or bad, better or worse. That's not his job to predict that. His job is to predict to stockholders how well a game is going to sell. Well, that's what he's fucking commenting on.
Nobody gives a shit what game you, by your little self, are going to play. That has nothing to do with the article.
Although, I must admit this is pretty obvious. It would take suicide (which almost seemed like it happened) to topple COD just like WOW would have to kill itself for there to become a real WOW killer (which will happen eventually).
But the great thing is these other non-COD and non-WOW games can still make tons of money. You don't have to be a COD killer in order to still make plenty of sales to have made it worth it. And it's fairly obvious BF3 is going to meet that threshold.
"Since when does popular = good anyways? I'd rather play Battlefield, Team Fortress 2, or Halo, etc. than Call of Dicks any day."
I really can't help it. Most of you have no idea what he's even saying. Nobody is commenting on whether BF3 will be good or bad, better or worse. That's not his job to predict that. His job is to predict to stockholders how well a game is going to sell. Well, that's what he's fucking commenting on.
Nobody gives a shit what game you, by your little self, are going to play. That has nothing to do with the article.
Although, I must admit this is pretty obvious. It would take suicide (which almost seemed like it happened) to topple COD just like WOW would have to kill itself for there to become a real WOW killer (which will happen eventually).
But the great thing is these other non-COD and non-WOW games can still make tons of money. You don't have to be a COD killer in order to still make plenty of sales to have made it worth it. And it's fairly obvious BF3 is going to meet that threshold.
CoD may beat BF3 in sales.... but not in heart. Dice put alot of effort, heart and soul into battlefield games. CoD is just becoming one of the money making drones like Guitar hero had become.
Battlefield is the Rockband of FPS's.... Arguably better than CoD/guitar hero but they arnt souless money grabbing games. (minus the speed bump in rockbands record that is rock band:green day)
I liked Modern warfare 1/2... even liked WaW... but blops and im sure whatever comes next will just felt meeh... whereas 1949, BFBC, BFBC2, and the recent vietnam pack have all been very fun and satisfying to play.
I won't be buying this years CoD... as i stopped playing Blops after about 2 weeks. But i will sure as shit be buying battlefield.
Battlefield is the Rockband of FPS's.... Arguably better than CoD/guitar hero but they arnt souless money grabbing games. (minus the speed bump in rockbands record that is rock band:green day)
I liked Modern warfare 1/2... even liked WaW... but blops and im sure whatever comes next will just felt meeh... whereas 1949, BFBC, BFBC2, and the recent vietnam pack have all been very fun and satisfying to play.
I won't be buying this years CoD... as i stopped playing Blops after about 2 weeks. But i will sure as shit be buying battlefield.
I hate that stupid ass mentality people have by buying up a game just because their friends have it. My room mate publically denounced Black OPs before it came out and, sure as shit, a week later I find him playing it on his 360. When queried he proclaimed that he didn't like it, but all his friends had moved on to it from Modern Warfare 2 so he did to.
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Sure playing with friends is great and many good times can be had, but when you are playing a game you don't even like for the sake of that interaction...something is horrible, horribly wrong.
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Sure playing with friends is great and many good times can be had, but when you are playing a game you don't even like for the sake of that interaction...something is horrible, horribly wrong.
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