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Don't get me started on how Activision wanted to keep the bonusses until MW3 would come out, those inhumane diabolical hypocritical fiends.
*Ahem*
Sorry, I've let myself go there.
*Ahem*
Sorry, I've let myself go there.
No Pachter BAD pachter BAD!look at him He knows what he said >;/ And way im going to play TF2 which shall be free FOREVER!!!
damn:/
if i had to pay to play street fighter online as well as the xbla subscription, i would stop playing online. just glad i don't give a flying crap about cod.
if i had to pay to play street fighter online as well as the xbla subscription, i would stop playing online. just glad i don't give a flying crap about cod.
im not a finanical analyst or a qualified stock broker, but i know enough about the economy and free markets to know that you cant raise prices or charge for purely artificial services like this, ie the "service" of not having your multiplayer mode being held hostage, since they don have any operating costs for online. The only exception is is someone made a truely one of a kind game, that was hypothetically the only game like that so there was no other game to turn to. However since the fps market especailly is overcrowded with so many games that follow the same formula. However the worst case scenario could be that activision, ea, ubiscum etc decide to form a cartel to fix prices, so they dont have to compete on price and can sqeeze out everyone else. And since they are in the entertainment inustry, they could proably get round anti cartel laws, because thats the only way i can see this evil scheme working
I'm against it on principle, but considering that I don't really go in for multiplayer games, I'd appreciate the hypothetical (and incredibly unlikely) price cut for the single player experience.
Yeah i think it's Microsoft who would have the biggest problem with this, you know the "you can't put a charged MMO on OUR system because we want ALL TEH MONEYS!" Microsoft, paying for LIVE AND a per game subscription?
Fuck no.
Although, Pachter is right in one part: I haven't bought any games recently, because I've been playing some heavy online gaming, only I've not been playing knife of mutey: glitch borefare, I've been playing MAG.
Can see the adverts now - "CoD, only available on PS3" because the platform is "more open, like a Mac" and we can get away with charging a subscription being as though we don't have to give MS their cut.
LAWL.
Fuck no.
Although, Pachter is right in one part: I haven't bought any games recently, because I've been playing some heavy online gaming, only I've not been playing knife of mutey: glitch borefare, I've been playing MAG.
Can see the adverts now - "CoD, only available on PS3" because the platform is "more open, like a Mac" and we can get away with charging a subscription being as though we don't have to give MS their cut.
LAWL.
I cant see something like this happening on Xbox live. I mean there is no way anyone microsoft or otherwise could justify charging twice, your gold sub and whatever other charge just to play the game.
Never gonna happen
Never gonna happen
This is like when you were in school and there was a substitute teacher and he asks the class what's going on. There was always the one nerd that said "We were supposed to have a test today."
Goddamn it, Michael. You are that nerd.
Goddamn it, Michael. You are that nerd.
@James Cox - An MMO without the persistent world, ever changing content, dedicated servers and all that other fancy stuff the MMO subscription pays for.
Seriously, P2P gaming is not an acceptable service to pay for. Partially why i avoid LIVE like the plague. "Pay? To use MY internet to HOST a game?!" Fuck no. Pay twice? Fuck fuck no!
I would say that Activision just COULD NOT JUSTIFY charging without using dedicated servers....
.. but Microsoft do it.
Seriously, P2P gaming is not an acceptable service to pay for. Partially why i avoid LIVE like the plague. "Pay? To use MY internet to HOST a game?!" Fuck no. Pay twice? Fuck fuck no!
I would say that Activision just COULD NOT JUSTIFY charging without using dedicated servers....
.. but Microsoft do it.
the master of pairing obvious comments with terrible ideas is at it again.
Of course people are going to play their multiplayer games over buying new ones. Maybe you piss money, patcher, but the rest of us don't. I dont think anyone in their right mind would throw down 60 dollars on a video game and not make an effort to get their moneys worth out of the multiplayer services.
This whole idea is batshit insane. No one in a stable mental state is going to pay 50-60 dollars for a game + extra for online game servers that are going to shut down or move on in a year. Its like patcher lives in some bizarro world where he thinks the consumer would love to vacate their bank accounts for absolutely nothing in return.
Of course people are going to play their multiplayer games over buying new ones. Maybe you piss money, patcher, but the rest of us don't. I dont think anyone in their right mind would throw down 60 dollars on a video game and not make an effort to get their moneys worth out of the multiplayer services.
This whole idea is batshit insane. No one in a stable mental state is going to pay 50-60 dollars for a game + extra for online game servers that are going to shut down or move on in a year. Its like patcher lives in some bizarro world where he thinks the consumer would love to vacate their bank accounts for absolutely nothing in return.
Maybe the sales took a dive because there were no big game releases? maybe I should become a games analysts, I could be rich.
I originally planned to post a lovely JPEG of Insanity Wolf featuring a pleasant quote about ripping off a certain body part of Pachters' and sodomising his own mouth with it. But that just wouldn't be nice.
In not doing this, I carefully considered the feelings of this gaming community before resorting to such a ridiculous injustice. Activision would do well to do the same.
In not doing this, I carefully considered the feelings of this gaming community before resorting to such a ridiculous injustice. Activision would do well to do the same.
I wouldn't mind paying for a subscription if it meant that we'd get the kind of support we got in MMO's. Such as free updates, free map packs, free new modes. But it has to be a steady stream, and not just once a year like it is now.
Dont play any of the CoD games anyway, so Pachter and Activision can suck a fucking dick. More so Pachter.
Make better games and people will buy them. Regurgitate the same formula and sales will stagnate. Don't complain people aren't buying games when the industry keeps churning out FPS and then have the audacity to try and implement a monthly fee. The day that happens is the day I dust off my NES. $13.50 a month to play FFXIV?? Yikes!
I don't buy games recently because I don't have many systems, little interests me to the point of buying, and I'm saving for a 3DS >:) Top that Bobby.
@gempadre
Not comparable.
1 is mass genocide and the other is being charged extra for a video game.
Stop being so fucking spoiled.
Not comparable.
1 is mass genocide and the other is being charged extra for a video game.
Stop being so fucking spoiled.
Pachter: Pulling bullshit out of his crusty arsehole since fuck knows when!
And yeah, Actiblizzvision can suck my dick if I'm buying any more CoD fillers off them, stingy cunts!
And yeah, Actiblizzvision can suck my dick if I'm buying any more CoD fillers off them, stingy cunts!
Where's the Pachter apologists at? They gotta come support his ideas! And tell everyone how they don't know anything about market analasis.
Charging fees = no sale. Period.
And anyone who *does* pay a fee, when there are a ton a of great games out there, is a mind-numbed fool.
And anyone who *does* pay a fee, when there are a ton a of great games out there, is a mind-numbed fool.
Un-be-fuckin-lievable.
The only reason game sales have dropped is because THERE'S NOTHING GOOD OUT RIGHT NOW. Jesus, fucking analysts need to wait until the fall, when sales skyrocket. Reach. Black Ops. A plethora of other games as well.
Don't these idiots know about the ebb and flow of markets? Especially markets they're ANALZYING? For a LIVING?!?!
The day they start making me pay monthly for basic online multiplayer is the day I quit gaming. Fuck off Activision.
The only reason game sales have dropped is because THERE'S NOTHING GOOD OUT RIGHT NOW. Jesus, fucking analysts need to wait until the fall, when sales skyrocket. Reach. Black Ops. A plethora of other games as well.
Don't these idiots know about the ebb and flow of markets? Especially markets they're ANALZYING? For a LIVING?!?!
The day they start making me pay monthly for basic online multiplayer is the day I quit gaming. Fuck off Activision.
Right Glitchy man. After E3 is a place we enter called development Time Zone, where anything good coming out has been slowed to a halt. It's the time for developers to finish games coming in the fall and winter games announce stuff coming by new years or very early next year. How is it that I can figure this out, yet (again) those who do it for a LIVING cannot in the slightest?
Okay... I've been tolerant, even respectful of Pachter up til now.
But, for the love of God, someone lock this man away!
And if multiplayer goes the way of monthly subscriptions, I'm so done with online.
But, for the love of God, someone lock this man away!
And if multiplayer goes the way of monthly subscriptions, I'm so done with online.
It be so funny if activision worked it and actually secretely pushed it with COD black ops....
On launchday milions of people will open their game to find out they get to pay extra...wich they will...
On launchday milions of people will open their game to find out they get to pay extra...wich they will...
As a long time PS fan there's no way in he'll I'm gonna pay to get in an online match to run around and shot people like the sky is falling. If the PS3 didn't come with online connectivity I would have never bought the adapter to do it.
No way I'm gonna pay to get insulted and shoot some guys online. I'll just buy single player games then.
As long as they still include split screen multiplayer for free, then meh. Kinda annoying, but i only get multiplayer games to play with RL mates anyway. Take away that and then charge for online, that may hurt them.
Sounds like someone is getting paid, amirite? I wish he would go away instead of pretending he knows what he's talking about.
@CormactheMac87:
<a href="http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/f/finalfantasyxi/default.htm">Better tell that to Square Enix, they didn't get the message</a>
<a href="http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/f/finalfantasyxi/default.htm">Better tell that to Square Enix, they didn't get the message</a>
Because buying a $60 disc every few months, and paying $10 for 3-4 maps SURELY doesn't generate enough profit. I fell off the CoD wagon pretty early, and the monthly fee thing is laughable.
Maybe it's a ploy to push the Online FPS market back to PC. XD
Maybe it's a ploy to push the Online FPS market back to PC. XD
this is bullshit, there are no dedicated servers, everything is hosted by players! This means there is nothing that Activision needs money to charge us for! unless they want to start charging us for game patches to fix bugs and shit.
How do we increase revenue?
A Lawyer says: "Once they have them on the hook, charge them"
A Businessman says: "Partition the finished game and sell it in pieces"
A Game Developer says: "Make better games."
A Lawyer says: "Once they have them on the hook, charge them"
A Businessman says: "Partition the finished game and sell it in pieces"
A Game Developer says: "Make better games."
Funny part is, that someone will still stick to the Free-To-Play model even if Activision goes through with this. And then everyone will play that, and Activision will go bankrupt.
So yeah, Activision, go for it. Ruin yourselves so we never have to see your ugly mugs again.
So yeah, Activision, go for it. Ruin yourselves so we never have to see your ugly mugs again.
As much as everyone here (me too) would like to believe Activision would crash and burn after releasing a pay and play COD that's not likely to happen. With COD:BO preorders already topping MW2 the number crunchers at Activision already have enough info on hand to develop the system. They know if people are willing to buy the same game just months apart for $60 they shouldn't have any problem getting those same lemmings to pay $15 a month.
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