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Pachter: Activision must charge fees for Call of Duty photo

Dude, don't encourage them.

Michael Pachter, industry super-analyst, has a theory about why software sales took a fifteen percent dive last month: We're all too busy playing multiplayer games online to buy the next big thing. Clearly, the only thing that will save game publishers from a fate worse than death would be to start charging players to play online. Since Activision's Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is the biggest game on the market, Pachter believes them to be the clear choice to spearhead such an effort in the industry.

Of course, Activision CEO Bobby Kotick has already had the idea and it's only a matter of time before such things transpire. When (not if) it does, I'm looking forward to the supernova of rage on the internet and declarations from people claiming they'll never buy another Activision game again. Then the industry will move as a whole, such subscription models will become the standard and the vast majority of boycotters will wind up forgetting their lofty ideals. Get a firm grip on your ankles kids, because it's coming.

I would be totally comfortable with such a scheme if I thought for a second that it meant we would pay less for games where the main focus is on a multiplayer experience, with the difference expected to be made up for in online service charges. Instead, we'll probably pay the same prices we do now and get a free month of online play for our specific games. 

Activision Must Start Charging for Call of Duty Online Play, says Pachter [IndustryGamers]








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GEMPadre036's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 05:36
GEMPadre036
That's like telling Hitler his whole "Master Race" idea was excellent and well thought out.
JT Murphy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 05:42
JT Murphy
Meanwhile, Valve is laughing their asses off.
Gorescream's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 05:44
Gorescream
Don't get me started on how Activision wanted to keep the bonusses until MW3 would come out, those inhumane diabolical hypocritical fiends.


*Ahem*

Sorry, I've let myself go there.
kagatoASUKA89's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 05:46
kagatoASUKA89
I will sell all my systems if this happens.
Jnr Johnson's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 05:46
Jnr Johnson
No Pachter BAD pachter BAD!look at him He knows what he said >;/ And way im going to play TF2 which shall be free FOREVER!!!
smang's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 05:47
smang
damn:/

if i had to pay to play street fighter online as well as the xbla subscription, i would stop playing online. just glad i don't give a flying crap about cod.
VoodooTerror's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 05:48
VoodooTerror
i will move to pc gaming should that happen!
X3Ent3nte's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 05:50
X3Ent3nte
im not a finanical analyst or a qualified stock broker, but i know enough about the economy and free markets to know that you cant raise prices or charge for purely artificial services like this, ie the "service" of not having your multiplayer mode being held hostage, since they don have any operating costs for online. The only exception is is someone made a truely one of a kind game, that was hypothetically the only game like that so there was no other game to turn to. However since the fps market especailly is overcrowded with so many games that follow the same formula. However the worst case scenario could be that activision, ea, ubiscum etc decide to form a cartel to fix prices, so they dont have to compete on price and can sqeeze out everyone else. And since they are in the entertainment inustry, they could proably get round anti cartel laws, because thats the only way i can see this evil scheme working
Sir Legendhead's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 05:50
Sir Legendhead
...and this topic achieved Godwin's Law with the first comment. Amazing.
RichardBlaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 05:53
RichardBlaine
I'm against it on principle, but considering that I don't really go in for multiplayer games, I'd appreciate the hypothetical (and incredibly unlikely) price cut for the single player experience.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 05:53
Sexualchocolate
Yeah i think it's Microsoft who would have the biggest problem with this, you know the "you can't put a charged MMO on OUR system because we want ALL TEH MONEYS!" Microsoft, paying for LIVE AND a per game subscription?

Fuck no.

Although, Pachter is right in one part: I haven't bought any games recently, because I've been playing some heavy online gaming, only I've not been playing knife of mutey: glitch borefare, I've been playing MAG.

Can see the adverts now - "CoD, only available on PS3" because the platform is "more open, like a Mac" and we can get away with charging a subscription being as though we don't have to give MS their cut.

LAWL.
CormactheMac87's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 05:59
CormactheMac87
I cant see something like this happening on Xbox live. I mean there is no way anyone microsoft or otherwise could justify charging twice, your gold sub and whatever other charge just to play the game.
Never gonna happen
StepTangent's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:01
StepTangent
This is like when you were in school and there was a substitute teacher and he asks the class what's going on. There was always the one nerd that said "We were supposed to have a test today."

Goddamn it, Michael. You are that nerd.
James's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:01
James
His idea is not new.... its a MMO
ThrashingLimbsEd's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:05
ThrashingLimbsEd
VOMITPUKE
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:05
Sexualchocolate
@James Cox - An MMO without the persistent world, ever changing content, dedicated servers and all that other fancy stuff the MMO subscription pays for.

Seriously, P2P gaming is not an acceptable service to pay for. Partially why i avoid LIVE like the plague. "Pay? To use MY internet to HOST a game?!" Fuck no. Pay twice? Fuck fuck no!

I would say that Activision just COULD NOT JUSTIFY charging without using dedicated servers....




.. but Microsoft do it.
ZRB's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:07
ZRB
the master of pairing obvious comments with terrible ideas is at it again.

Of course people are going to play their multiplayer games over buying new ones. Maybe you piss money, patcher, but the rest of us don't. I dont think anyone in their right mind would throw down 60 dollars on a video game and not make an effort to get their moneys worth out of the multiplayer services.

This whole idea is batshit insane. No one in a stable mental state is going to pay 50-60 dollars for a game + extra for online game servers that are going to shut down or move on in a year. Its like patcher lives in some bizarro world where he thinks the consumer would love to vacate their bank accounts for absolutely nothing in return.
Vorbis's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:11
Vorbis
Maybe the sales took a dive because there were no big game releases? maybe I should become a games analysts, I could be rich.
ikiryou's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:12
ikiryou
I originally planned to post a lovely JPEG of Insanity Wolf featuring a pleasant quote about ripping off a certain body part of Pachters' and sodomising his own mouth with it. But that just wouldn't be nice.

In not doing this, I carefully considered the feelings of this gaming community before resorting to such a ridiculous injustice. Activision would do well to do the same.
DtoidBadMrK's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:23
DtoidBadMrK
I wouldn't mind paying for a subscription if it meant that we'd get the kind of support we got in MMO's. Such as free updates, free map packs, free new modes. But it has to be a steady stream, and not just once a year like it is now.
Marc Allen's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:24
Marc Allen
Dont play any of the CoD games anyway, so Pachter and Activision can suck a fucking dick. More so Pachter.
Live by the Sword's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:27
Live by the Sword
Make better games and people will buy them. Regurgitate the same formula and sales will stagnate. Don't complain people aren't buying games when the industry keeps churning out FPS and then have the audacity to try and implement a monthly fee. The day that happens is the day I dust off my NES. $13.50 a month to play FFXIV?? Yikes!
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:27
GoodGuyA
I don't buy games recently because I don't have many systems, little interests me to the point of buying, and I'm saving for a 3DS >:) Top that Bobby.
ZRB's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:29
ZRB
@ikiryou




I think this will cover it :)
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:39
Bakewell
@gempadre

Not comparable.

1 is mass genocide and the other is being charged extra for a video game.

Stop being so fucking spoiled.
ThrashingLimbsEd's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:40
ThrashingLimbsEd
@Bakewell

Stop being so dull
Max-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:43
Max-
Pachter: Pulling bullshit out of his crusty arsehole since fuck knows when!

And yeah, Actiblizzvision can suck my dick if I'm buying any more CoD fillers off them, stingy cunts!
Max-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:46
Max-
Also, if this was so wouldn't that then mean that XBL players would then have to pay double?

DERP!
Toadofsky's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:55
Toadofsky
Where's the Pachter apologists at? They gotta come support his ideas! And tell everyone how they don't know anything about market analasis.
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 06:58
GoodGuyA
@Thrashing- Ditto yourself.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 07:03
John B
Charging fees = no sale. Period.

And anyone who *does* pay a fee, when there are a ton a of great games out there, is a mind-numbed fool.
Uzeless's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 07:09
Uzeless
Why doesn't Pachter STFU!!!!! If Activision take his advice, I'm outa here!!!!
Time Glitch's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 07:15
Time Glitch
Un-be-fuckin-lievable.

The only reason game sales have dropped is because THERE'S NOTHING GOOD OUT RIGHT NOW. Jesus, fucking analysts need to wait until the fall, when sales skyrocket. Reach. Black Ops. A plethora of other games as well.

Don't these idiots know about the ebb and flow of markets? Especially markets they're ANALZYING? For a LIVING?!?!

The day they start making me pay monthly for basic online multiplayer is the day I quit gaming. Fuck off Activision.
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 07:21
GoodGuyA
Right Glitchy man. After E3 is a place we enter called development Time Zone, where anything good coming out has been slowed to a halt. It's the time for developers to finish games coming in the fall and winter games announce stuff coming by new years or very early next year. How is it that I can figure this out, yet (again) those who do it for a LIVING cannot in the slightest?
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 07:23
Drakengard
Okay... I've been tolerant, even respectful of Pachter up til now.

But, for the love of God, someone lock this man away!

And if multiplayer goes the way of monthly subscriptions, I'm so done with online.
masterninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 07:41
masterninja
It be so funny if activision worked it and actually secretely pushed it with COD black ops....

On launchday milions of people will open their game to find out they get to pay extra...wich they will...
Sooprtrukr's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 07:48
Sooprtrukr
As a long time PS fan there's no way in he'll I'm gonna pay to get in an online match to run around and shot people like the sky is falling. If the PS3 didn't come with online connectivity I would have never bought the adapter to do it.
Woopman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 07:55
Woopman
No way I'm gonna pay to get insulted and shoot some guys online. I'll just buy single player games then.
Tabijinka's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 08:04
Tabijinka
As long as they still include split screen multiplayer for free, then meh. Kinda annoying, but i only get multiplayer games to play with RL mates anyway. Take away that and then charge for online, that may hurt them.
Sanious's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 08:11
Sanious
Sounds like someone is getting paid, amirite? I wish he would go away instead of pretending he knows what he's talking about.
NateT's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 08:12
NateT
Ok here is a good idea. Lets make gaming MORE EXPENSIVE DURING A RECESSION. Good one Patcher.
WillieT's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 08:13
WillieT
If they do, Cod:BO would sell nothing, and the new MOH will sell tons.. :p
sqlrob's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 08:14
sqlrob
@CormactheMac87:

<a href="http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/f/finalfantasyxi/default.htm">Better tell that to Square Enix, they didn't get the message</a>
Pic0o's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 08:15
Pic0o
Because buying a $60 disc every few months, and paying $10 for 3-4 maps SURELY doesn't generate enough profit. I fell off the CoD wagon pretty early, and the monthly fee thing is laughable.

Maybe it's a ploy to push the Online FPS market back to PC. XD
Silverx2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 08:17
Silverx2
this is bullshit, there are no dedicated servers, everything is hosted by players! This means there is nothing that Activision needs money to charge us for! unless they want to start charging us for game patches to fix bugs and shit.
mighty_marcos's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 08:19
mighty_marcos
How do we increase revenue?

A Lawyer says: "Once they have them on the hook, charge them"
A Businessman says: "Partition the finished game and sell it in pieces"
A Game Developer says: "Make better games."
Time Glitch's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 08:22
Time Glitch
Funny part is, that someone will still stick to the Free-To-Play model even if Activision goes through with this. And then everyone will play that, and Activision will go bankrupt.

So yeah, Activision, go for it. Ruin yourselves so we never have to see your ugly mugs again.
SnatchTease's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 08:37
SnatchTease
Pachter must make a accurate prediction at some point... still waiting.
LittleBigD's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 08:38
LittleBigD
As much as everyone here (me too) would like to believe Activision would crash and burn after releasing a pay and play COD that's not likely to happen. With COD:BO preorders already topping MW2 the number crunchers at Activision already have enough info on hand to develop the system. They know if people are willing to buy the same game just months apart for $60 they shouldn't have any problem getting those same lemmings to pay $15 a month.
mighty_marcos's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/16/2010 09:16
mighty_marcos
@ LittleBigD: Correct everyone talks a lot of shit, and then go right out and support these companies by buying all their products.
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