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Still waiting for this thing to pull out some feature that will have me all "OMG THIS IS THE PRODUCT FOR ME!"
So far the only thing about the OUYA that has me excited is that Valve is working on mainstream gaming support for Linux.... which..... has nothing to do with the OUYA ~.~
So far the only thing about the OUYA that has me excited is that Valve is working on mainstream gaming support for Linux.... which..... has nothing to do with the OUYA ~.~
I take that back if the controller is ergonomic an cheap enough I might buy one for my PC... been needing a decent cheap controller so I guess that sorta has me excited :)
This will be the next new gimmick like the Wii. The difference being that this might actually be a GOOD gimmick and not one based upon the bottom line.
Kind of have my fingers crossed as that being the case, but as always with this kind of news in this kind of industry, you gotta take most things with a grain of salt.
Kind of have my fingers crossed as that being the case, but as always with this kind of news in this kind of industry, you gotta take most things with a grain of salt.
I like it. I'm not that bothered about it but I like that its really cheap and developers seem to be in it for love not money. I hope it does well enough to show big companies that they're not untouchable. It may lead to a little more competition.
@tekbunny
"This will be the next new gimmick like the Wii. The difference being that this might actually be a GOOD gimmick and not one based upon the bottom line."
WTF does that even mean?
Seriously, If you just want to say "Wii sucks; this may not", then say that. Don't try to hide behind buzzwords.
That way we can all just roll our eyes and move on.
"This will be the next new gimmick like the Wii. The difference being that this might actually be a GOOD gimmick and not one based upon the bottom line."
WTF does that even mean?
Seriously, If you just want to say "Wii sucks; this may not", then say that. Don't try to hide behind buzzwords.
That way we can all just roll our eyes and move on.
There are some eyebrow raising articles starting to come out about the people who make Ouya. I'd do a couple internet searches before you pony up your money.
@ArrestedDeveloper
Just checked Google News for anything negative about the people behind the Ouya, and I can't find anything. You have links?
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This is pretty great news. There has been a bunch of support for this thing from within the industry, adding OnLive seems like a great move on top of that.
Just checked Google News for anything negative about the people behind the Ouya, and I can't find anything. You have links?
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This is pretty great news. There has been a bunch of support for this thing from within the industry, adding OnLive seems like a great move on top of that.
Can't OnLive be streamed through just about anything? Doesn't seem like a system selling feature but I guess it's nice.
@El Conrado
I had a really nasty response to you but realized it's the internet and it's full of dumb people. Wii was a gimmick and wasted most of it's potential it never had considering the motion controls were absolute ass.
Anyway, second tekbunny's thoughts on this. I've very hopeful although I am not digging the d-pad they put on that controller. Going to need to test it out.
I had a really nasty response to you but realized it's the internet and it's full of dumb people. Wii was a gimmick and wasted most of it's potential it never had considering the motion controls were absolute ass.
Anyway, second tekbunny's thoughts on this. I've very hopeful although I am not digging the d-pad they put on that controller. Going to need to test it out.
An android based platform has now got the ability to play games via onlive, which can already be played through existing android devices....
GAMECHANGER!!!
GAMECHANGER!!!
This makes a lot of sense. I don't understand why people buy the Onlive console since to me the whole point of Onlive is that it gives you a console-like experience (you never have to worry about the technical aspects, but you're on a closed environment without mods) but without the cost of a console. If it came with a cheap console with its own games it would be worth it for the streamlined interface.
As for the naysayers... Well, I agree it's a proposition that's naive at best and shady at worst, and I recommend everyone do as I did and wait to spend their money until there's an actual thing to spend money on, especially since it's already well over funded. But, while I know there are good arguments against it, I haven't seen anyone making those. Every one I've seen seems to have been made by someone whose concepts of imagination and innovation had been tought by a soulless digital imprint of Bobby Kotick's right side of the brain.
As for the naysayers... Well, I agree it's a proposition that's naive at best and shady at worst, and I recommend everyone do as I did and wait to spend their money until there's an actual thing to spend money on, especially since it's already well over funded. But, while I know there are good arguments against it, I haven't seen anyone making those. Every one I've seen seems to have been made by someone whose concepts of imagination and innovation had been tought by a soulless digital imprint of Bobby Kotick's right side of the brain.
The concept of open consoles in itself is flawed. I donīt see this thing doing anything besides beeing a cheap emulator-box, living like a parasite from games developed for other platforms, for which the original developers wonīt get a cent. Sorry to be so pessimistic,but it simply doesnīt add up (for me).
@Philosophy: Pointer controls are the greatest thing to come out of this console generation (control-wise), you obviously havent played Metroid Prime 3, or Resident Evil 4 Wii edition, otherwise you wouldnīt say something like that.
@Philosophy: Pointer controls are the greatest thing to come out of this console generation (control-wise), you obviously havent played Metroid Prime 3, or Resident Evil 4 Wii edition, otherwise you wouldnīt say something like that.
This is hardly a big deal, I agree with dale on that one. Its basically confirmed to me ouya is getting nothing exclusive of its own
That... is an ugly fucking console.
Still, liking the idea. If I had $99 to blow I'd pre-order this in a heartbeat.
Still, liking the idea. If I had $99 to blow I'd pre-order this in a heartbeat.
@stealth
That's the genius of it. Go completely opposite of Nintendo's strategy of exclusivity and attempt to give people a real, casual open platform gaming system.
@conrad
Some gimmicks are good, some are not. There, explained.
*rolls eyes and walks away*
That's the genius of it. Go completely opposite of Nintendo's strategy of exclusivity and attempt to give people a real, casual open platform gaming system.
@conrad
Some gimmicks are good, some are not. There, explained.
*rolls eyes and walks away*
I know, I know, if the idea didn't originate in Japan or hasn't been around for 20+ years or has a mascot attached to it, it's GOT to be a waste of time, right?
@Philosophy of a Ruling Class
"I had a really nasty response to you..."
...because... I said "gimmick" is nothing but a buzzword? And you proceeded to use it as a buzzword.
Listen, I don't really give a damn if people like you don't like the stuff I like. It's when they PRETEND that they don't like something out of some imaginary "keen sense of sophistication" that I take issue.
To people like you I say: So you're too cool for the Wii? Go to hell.
Think whatever the @#$% you want, just don't pretend to be smarter because you do, because in the end of the day, we're talking about videogames.
You are right on one thing though, the internet is full of stupid people, and you make an excellent case for one.
"I had a really nasty response to you..."
...because... I said "gimmick" is nothing but a buzzword? And you proceeded to use it as a buzzword.
Listen, I don't really give a damn if people like you don't like the stuff I like. It's when they PRETEND that they don't like something out of some imaginary "keen sense of sophistication" that I take issue.
To people like you I say: So you're too cool for the Wii? Go to hell.
Think whatever the @#$% you want, just don't pretend to be smarter because you do, because in the end of the day, we're talking about videogames.
You are right on one thing though, the internet is full of stupid people, and you make an excellent case for one.
Oh my god, yes, you totally caught me! I was trying to find a REAL word to describe "shitty, inaccurate and contrived input device for a console that was suppose to be its main draw" but none really suited it because gimmick is a word in the English language that has a definition that I used properly.
How's that rampant fanboyism treating ya?
How's that rampant fanboyism treating ya?
@tekbunny
Here, here! No need to get worked up, buddy!
"Gimmick" has various definitions, you know. There's such a thing called "context".
Well, at least you're consistent:
You feel compelled to justify your opinion of an inanimate product you don't like that other people like by attacking it's subjective qualities as if they were objective flaws.
You also feel the need to attack a person's opinion on your actions by attaching to that person a negative quality, then attacking the person, rather than the opinion, based on said quality.
All this while using terms with a heavily negative connotation to distract from what your doing, "gimmick" and "fanboy"; buzzwords, as they are called.
I'm not going to go down the same route. Instead I'll restate what I said earlier:
Just say what you really want to say, so we can all know to ignore it an move on.
Here, here! No need to get worked up, buddy!
"Gimmick" has various definitions, you know. There's such a thing called "context".
Well, at least you're consistent:
You feel compelled to justify your opinion of an inanimate product you don't like that other people like by attacking it's subjective qualities as if they were objective flaws.
You also feel the need to attack a person's opinion on your actions by attaching to that person a negative quality, then attacking the person, rather than the opinion, based on said quality.
All this while using terms with a heavily negative connotation to distract from what your doing, "gimmick" and "fanboy"; buzzwords, as they are called.
I'm not going to go down the same route. Instead I'll restate what I said earlier:
Just say what you really want to say, so we can all know to ignore it an move on.
POINTER CONTROLS !!!
The problem with "shitty, inaccurate and contrived input device" is resolved since 2009, anyone heard of WiiMotion plus , which is (almost) as accurate as Move?
I guess not, because it isnīt black and doesnīt have those 4 magic letters on it...which automatically disqualifies it as a hardcore (oh god, how I hate this term) device.
@Conrado: Some people donīt want to understand, donīt put much work into it, it isnīt worth it.
The problem with "shitty, inaccurate and contrived input device" is resolved since 2009, anyone heard of WiiMotion plus , which is (almost) as accurate as Move?
I guess not, because it isnīt black and doesnīt have those 4 magic letters on it...which automatically disqualifies it as a hardcore (oh god, how I hate this term) device.
@Conrado: Some people donīt want to understand, donīt put much work into it, it isnīt worth it.
I love being psychologically profiled over the internet.
So, you decided to take away what YOU felt gimmick meant, and proceeded to use your definition to argue mine. Fine, let me be more specific then; It was a novelty.
" You feel compelled to justify your opinion of an inanimate product you don't like that other people like by attacking it's subjective qualities as if they were objective flaws"
Sooo, nothing is good or bad or open to critical thought then? Gotcha. Since my opinion is "negative" it all of a sudden becomes nil.
And sorry the term fanboy is so insulting, I could use zealot if that's more to your liking.
So, you decided to take away what YOU felt gimmick meant, and proceeded to use your definition to argue mine. Fine, let me be more specific then; It was a novelty.
" You feel compelled to justify your opinion of an inanimate product you don't like that other people like by attacking it's subjective qualities as if they were objective flaws"
Sooo, nothing is good or bad or open to critical thought then? Gotcha. Since my opinion is "negative" it all of a sudden becomes nil.
And sorry the term fanboy is so insulting, I could use zealot if that's more to your liking.
@tekbunny
It could of been developed in japan, and I would still not be interested.
I am a physical collector so on that basic level I would never get it.
It could of been developed in japan, and I would still not be interested.
I am a physical collector so on that basic level I would never get it.
How about I concede to this much. Before the advent of popularity in the mouse, many in the industry thought it to be pointless. After years and years of seeing the benefits and possibilities, we now have laser precision mice.
Totally doable with motion controls, however I don't see them keeping a desirable foothold. I mean, the next iteration of the Wii isn't even touting it as its primary input device and is instead moving on to the next... Novel or ingenious device, scheme, or stratagem, especially one designed to attract attention or increase appeal.
Totally doable with motion controls, however I don't see them keeping a desirable foothold. I mean, the next iteration of the Wii isn't even touting it as its primary input device and is instead moving on to the next... Novel or ingenious device, scheme, or stratagem, especially one designed to attract attention or increase appeal.
@tekbunny
"So, you decided to take away what YOU felt gimmick meant..."
Nooooo... I actually implied that the way you used the word confuses it's meaning: on the example you don't like is means "bad", on the one you don't know it maybe means "good".
That form is typical of diversionary talk: you don't "need" to explain what you're saying because the weight of the word does it for you, except in a convoluted and underhanded way. That's what using buzzwords means.
I told you to just say what you really mean to say instead and be done with it: "X is bad, Y may be good".
"Sooo, nothing is good or bad or open to critical thought then? Gotcha."
Again, very consistent. Twist what I'm saying, then attack on the grounds of the result, rather what was said. Then call me something negative.
Yes Virginia, there is "good" and "bad". No Virginia, not everything you don't like is objectively bad. In fact most of what you do and don't like is entirely subjective. What you consider "bad" could be considered "acceptable" or even "good" by other people, so long as it works as intended.
And yes, the device in question does work as intended. That's why a lot of people can use and enjoy it. You can't? That's fine, too. But that's not an objective representation of it's qualities.
You can escalate your insults all you want, I'm not following suit.
"So, you decided to take away what YOU felt gimmick meant..."
Nooooo... I actually implied that the way you used the word confuses it's meaning: on the example you don't like is means "bad", on the one you don't know it maybe means "good".
That form is typical of diversionary talk: you don't "need" to explain what you're saying because the weight of the word does it for you, except in a convoluted and underhanded way. That's what using buzzwords means.
I told you to just say what you really mean to say instead and be done with it: "X is bad, Y may be good".
"Sooo, nothing is good or bad or open to critical thought then? Gotcha."
Again, very consistent. Twist what I'm saying, then attack on the grounds of the result, rather what was said. Then call me something negative.
Yes Virginia, there is "good" and "bad". No Virginia, not everything you don't like is objectively bad. In fact most of what you do and don't like is entirely subjective. What you consider "bad" could be considered "acceptable" or even "good" by other people, so long as it works as intended.
And yes, the device in question does work as intended. That's why a lot of people can use and enjoy it. You can't? That's fine, too. But that's not an objective representation of it's qualities.
You can escalate your insults all you want, I'm not following suit.
Please, dont tell you just made a connection between the innovation the mouse and keyboard brought to ouya. Please tell me it aint so.
I never liked motion controls, so not sure why that matters. Alot of games I play on move, or wii despite them
I never liked motion controls, so not sure why that matters. Alot of games I play on move, or wii despite them
@tekbunny
See? Your last post is a great example of how to make an airtight representation of your opinion. What can I say against that?
Nothing, I can ether agree or disagree, but not much else.
I liked your dig at the definition in the end, nice touch.
Can we virtually shake hands?
See? Your last post is a great example of how to make an airtight representation of your opinion. What can I say against that?
Nothing, I can ether agree or disagree, but not much else.
I liked your dig at the definition in the end, nice touch.
Can we virtually shake hands?
Jesus ,Conrad, I'm not trying to insult you. if anything you started off with the insulting attitude between us so please get off that high horse. Youre being about as insulting and demeaning of my opinion as you seem to deem me being of yours. I'm not even going to go into the hypocrisy of you pointing out me twisting what you're saying. If you wanna continue this, please pm me tho because this conversation has gone beyond petty.
@stealth
I was compariong motion control to mouse control.
@stealth
I was compariong motion control to mouse control.
Dammit Conrad, why did you post that while I was posting my reply? Now I look like an even bigger dick!
*shakes your hand, takes you into a loving embrace and kisses you gently, but firmly*
I can do... Other, stranger sexual things too if that's what it takes to smooth this differing of opinions over.
*shakes your hand, takes you into a loving embrace and kisses you gently, but firmly*
I can do... Other, stranger sexual things too if that's what it takes to smooth this differing of opinions over.
@tekbunny
Let's chalk this one to mis-communication, roll our eyes (sensually) and move on (to bed).
Let's chalk this one to mis-communication, roll our eyes (sensually) and move on (to bed).
I'm already there...
*sprawls arms out and gets legs into the spread eagle position*
... Tiger. Growr...
*sprawls arms out and gets legs into the spread eagle position*
... Tiger. Growr...
There has been more than just this that was announced, a Human Element prequel from the same developer Robotiki. The Developers of Hawken are going to bring that over. Super Retro Squad from Exploding Rabbit. Legends of Aethereus from Threegates. I see quite a lot of promise in the first two, the last we'll have to wait and see, at the very least it will probably inspire others.
Dtoid, please put up all the info, so at least some can shut up, not everyone will shut up of course, maybe the ones with the stupid arguments of "this is all it will get" will probably change to something else. Though, if this system gets where it's headed, it will have pleanty to call its own.
Dtoid, please put up all the info, so at least some can shut up, not everyone will shut up of course, maybe the ones with the stupid arguments of "this is all it will get" will probably change to something else. Though, if this system gets where it's headed, it will have pleanty to call its own.
What's the point? The OnLive Game System is also $100 and it comes with a controller too. Not to mention the fact that most computers in use by your average consumer can run OnLive just fine. Or how about the Smart TVs that have have cloud gaming build right into the device itself? And we've yet to even see what Sony is gonna do with Gaikai.
Oh, and for the record, there is ONE game announced for this thing as of this moment. ONE. It's a prequel to the game that the old Infinity Ward guys are doing. They've announced it, but all they have is concept art right now, which means it's not a launch window game. THAT'S IT. Minecraft is not coming to the system. I'm sorry that you were so easily fooled by that Kickstarter video. Go look it up.
All the "support" they're getting is people saying nice things about it. Last I checked, nice things don't translate into products worth buying. Hold you're fucking horses, people.
Oh, and for the record, there is ONE game announced for this thing as of this moment. ONE. It's a prequel to the game that the old Infinity Ward guys are doing. They've announced it, but all they have is concept art right now, which means it's not a launch window game. THAT'S IT. Minecraft is not coming to the system. I'm sorry that you were so easily fooled by that Kickstarter video. Go look it up.
All the "support" they're getting is people saying nice things about it. Last I checked, nice things don't translate into products worth buying. Hold you're fucking horses, people.
@ctg867 I don't seem to remember even mentioning Minecraft, read what I said, there are 4 games that have said they are coming, and yes, no dates. But they said they are coming. How about YOU go look it up. You have no idea what you're talking about.
"What's the point?" It's yet another system that it's on, I'm not all that excited about OnLive, I'll admit it, as it's a pay service, but who cares, this console is getting more and more people behind it, just because you haven't followed it or decided it's for you, doesn't mean you can just wish away all the progress it's made for your own arguments sake.
"What's the point?" It's yet another system that it's on, I'm not all that excited about OnLive, I'll admit it, as it's a pay service, but who cares, this console is getting more and more people behind it, just because you haven't followed it or decided it's for you, doesn't mean you can just wish away all the progress it's made for your own arguments sake.
Here, I'll even do the work for you!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ouya_games
Oh look, they've added a fifth game to the list!
If you're still skeptical
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console/posts/266640
Meteor in on Ouya, not "might be in if gamers want it" like Notch said, or "nice things being said" they are in. Granted that doesn't say Hawken, but what other games do those people have. And if not Hawken at least they are looking forward to making a game for it.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/460738485/legends-of-aethereus-co-op-hack-n-slash-action-gam
"Ouya Elite Developer Package
This will let us allow us to stay connected with OUYA development and see if we can produce some version of LoA that works on the platform. Unity is Android compatible so it we have hopes that we can get something to work." Yes they're planning on it.
So, do some reasearch before you just spout what was said on the page from the beginning. I've given you three examples, go look up the other two.
Again it's not for you, we get it, but bashing a system or those that support it just because they aren't following you, or see something in it you don't, makes you an asshole.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ouya_games
Oh look, they've added a fifth game to the list!
If you're still skeptical
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console/posts/266640
Meteor in on Ouya, not "might be in if gamers want it" like Notch said, or "nice things being said" they are in. Granted that doesn't say Hawken, but what other games do those people have. And if not Hawken at least they are looking forward to making a game for it.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/460738485/legends-of-aethereus-co-op-hack-n-slash-action-gam
"Ouya Elite Developer Package
This will let us allow us to stay connected with OUYA development and see if we can produce some version of LoA that works on the platform. Unity is Android compatible so it we have hopes that we can get something to work." Yes they're planning on it.
So, do some reasearch before you just spout what was said on the page from the beginning. I've given you three examples, go look up the other two.
Again it's not for you, we get it, but bashing a system or those that support it just because they aren't following you, or see something in it you don't, makes you an asshole.
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