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Last night we received a tip from Neil Christie sharing with us what he called "more bullsh*t in the UK press." Indeed, it was a column by an elderly man called Giles Whittell, whose out-of-touch and frightened scrawling shan't be directly linked to. This is because I'd rather benefit from his mad warblings while offering him no traffic in return. I will link to this great CBlog about it, though.

Here's a sample of his senile rambling:

I hate video games, on or offline. I hate the way they suck real people into fake worlds and hold on to them for decades at a time. I hate being made to feel hateful for saying so, and I hate being told to immerse myself in them before passing judgment, because it feels like being told to immerse myself in smack and teenage pregnancy before passing judgment on them.

This hate piece was published online by The Times, an outlet that has already lied about the Byron Report, so it's hardly shocking to see them wheel out this strange old man to tell us how much he hates them there new-fangled videogames. You might note that I am being very calm, not my usual outraged, exasperated, distressed self. This is because mad old men amuse me, and I could never be angry at one simply for sharing his confused, curmudgeonly nonsense with real people who have more than ten years of life left in them.

In his article, the eccentric, obsolete gentleman espouses how excellent he is for denying his children videogames, and making them go camping instead. This is because games, in his decaying mind, are a "waste of time." A bigger waste of time, apparently, than sitting in a tent in a rainstorm, occasionally going outside to take a sh*t in the woods. That might be a crazy pensioner's idea of a worthwhile pursuit, but I'd rather take the PlayStation, personally. Oh yeah, he also compared games to teen pregnancy and heroin abuse ... because that's what people in nursing homes kind of do.

When I read this stupid article last night I actually posted my own reply on the Web site directly. However, it seems that Destructoid is too much for The Times to handle and they didn't publish what I had to say about the article. So I'll publish it instead. Once again the indie blogs have to do the mainstream press' job for it.

"What a ridiculous and naive assessment, but then, this is the "news" outlet that made stuff up about the Byron report so I shouldn't be surprised.  
 
I wonder what your hobbies include. Tennis, perhaps? Television? Driving to Church? I bet I could find things you do for enjoyment and deride them as a "complete waste of time," but I'm not in the business of trashing an entire industry to hop on the "me too" bandwagon of hating things for hatred's sake

I'm glad you are made to feel hateful for being a judgmental hypocrite who values one set of hobbies over another. Have fun making your kids go camping, I'm sure they'd prefer videogames and will grow to resent you for it.

Videogames are today's entertainment of choice. They cannot be stopped, no matter how many threatened dinosaurs try and stop them. Games will win. Learn to live with it or you'll be a bitter old man. I mean, more so than you are now."

I can only assume they didn't print this because I am so young and virile, while Giles is so old and worthless.


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wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 10:08
wardrox
I don't know why, I was expecting The Times not to sink this low
broonor's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 10:13
broonor
I will only read and respect his opinion if he says it's ok for Muggles to exist. Books and movies are ok to get sucked into fantasy worlds with, but but interactive games? Hell no.
Projectexodus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 10:14
Projectexodus
HATE!!!
Pangloss's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 10:15
Pangloss
Oh man, the title gave me a good laugh. I also love that this old fuck hates that he is made to feel hateful for hating things.

I hate things too, but that doesn't make me hateful. No sir. I just loathe certain concepts and everything they stand for, categorically, with no research into the subject, because I don't need that to pass judgement. That's not hateful, that's just sanity.
Rucksack's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 10:21
Rucksack
Oh old men, Jim I fully expect you'll end up like this in a few years time!
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 10:28
Demtor
Get off their lawn Jim!
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 10:35
B-Radicate
Old people need to die.
Wexx's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 10:41
Wexx
*applause*
Fuck ignorant, old people.
Boolean's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 10:50
Boolean
You know what should be banned? ROCK MUSIC. This Elvis Presley with his loud music and his hip shaking and his rude words like 'kissing', thank goodness that Florida judge had the sense to ban him! It's not like in OUR DAY when music was simple nice things, something you could enjoy, not the DEVILS MUSIC of today!

Ya damn kids.
The Young Scot's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 10:52
The Young Scot
"I hate being made to feel hateful"

Ah ha, ha ha, BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHA.
Rifter01's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 10:53
Rifter01
No, lets keep music for all the sh--grins. I say, lets just kill off Television or Bad Cable (There's no good cable where I live).. I mean, c'mon.. I bet this old guy couldn't live without his soap operas and who da baby daddy part 5,000
Drunken Haze's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 10:56
Drunken Haze
The telegraph has been shifting more and more of this kind of stuff recently. Its a pity because I still remember a quite level headed piece from them about how the banning of manhunt was an afrount to our civil liberties. For them to now have a piece about how games like that need to be banned because they might hurt the children... I suppose a right wing paper is always going to have as many fucked up old prudes as it is rational libertarians.
Kaspar's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:02
Kaspar
@ B-Radicate

You said all there is to say.


Also, it seems that my country is trying to get on the old wagon too, more and more shit being baked up every month. Hasn't reached critical mass yet.
3r0t1c n3rd's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:09
3r0t1c n3rd
Do we rally need to comment on this? C'mon!
Conan-san's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:10
Conan-san
That sort of nonsence I'd expect of The sun or something, but not The Times.

Then again, maybe this is just the temperment of a sinking ship that's losing to das internetin'.
Just a thought.
Gangles's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:12
Gangles
You are rather virile
Perry Simm's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:15
Perry Simm
"Anything invented before your fifteenth birthday is the order of nature. That's how it should be. Anything invented between your 15th and 35th birthday is new and exciting, and you might get a career there. Anything invented after that day, however, is against nature and should be prohibited."

- Douglas Adams
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:16
MaxVest
My favorite reply to the article was the first one:

"One could easily argue by the same measure that sex for recreation is a colossal waste of time too.

I can only assume that Giles Whittel stopped getting any a long time ago."
Hannah's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:21
Hannah
Games ARE a waste of time, but that's the whole point -- they're a form of relatively mindless entertainment. Like other time-wasters (eg. TV, sci-fi/fantasy novels, goofing off with friends, etc.), they should be enjoyed in moderation, leaving lots of time for more worthwhile activities (eg. camping, exercise, art, less shallow works of literature, etc.).

And yes, my definition of worthwhile is extremely subjective. I consider camping important because it encourages people to appreciate and learn more about the outdoors. I wouldn't expect people to spend all their time doing it, though. Sometimes we all need a break from activities that are supposed to make us better people, and that's where the aforementioned mindless entertainment comes in.
NihonTiger90's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:27
NihonTiger90
He's old. His opinion on gaming is completely irrelevant. Next.
Gangles's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:27
Gangles
"I hate books. I hate the way they suck real people into fake worlds and hold on to them for decades at a time."
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:32
DaedHead8
"the eccentric, obsolete gentleman"

I loled so hard right there. Good stuff.
Dennen's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:43
Dennen
He sounds like a second-previous generation *possibly third* unwilling to even attempt to understand the current generation. Things have sucked people into false worlds for a great deal of years. Video Games. Books. Music. Hell, short story's can be considered a separate entity from books.

I do agree with him on the point of feeling it unfair of being practically required to study an item in-depth to possibly speak of it. But on the contrary, for most people it's a simple fact of being misinformed. This man only proved this by simply mentioning only negative claimed "facts" of the side effects of Video Games. There are benefits. But people like him are too ignorant to see them. Too ignorant to care.

He is so passively hateful and so quick to toss the word around that he is making it seem more that it isn't that he is angry about Video Games and their levels of immersion. That is not the true complaint. To me, it seems that his complaint is the need to write about something relatively new, rather than coasting by on writing the same things over and over.

I say, if one is a journalist. I say if one is a big time news anchor. I say if you are anyone going to give an interview to a big time exec, or even a big PR person, do your homework. You have the job, it's your job to do it. So do it. No one forced these people to be journalists. No one forced these people to be news anchors. They did it out of choice, and if the best they can do their job is to remain completely oblivious to hot topics except for the papers handed to them that fucking morning then I say they aren't doing their jobs. Pick up the slack, quit being such a whiny crybaby and man up Nancy. It's time for you to understand that misinformation is not "The News".

It's time to understand that the old way of lies is what is constantly combated. And that is why so many gamers practically require him to immerse himself in the topic before speaking about it. Because when speaking about heroin addiction, that is something painfully obvious. When speaking about teenage pregnancy, that is painfully obvious. But when calling video games murder simulators, and turning children into mindless murdering jackals... That is misinformation. That is sensationalism just trying to make a quick buck by getting people to pick up that magazine or newspaper. To tune in at 9 to hear that news broadcast brought to you by Levitra.
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:46
Kif
Let's all send him some video games and sing songs around a campfire while killing people on COD4. It'll be legendary.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:47
mistic
the Times just keeps going down and down and down... what a load of crap!
ceark's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 11:48
ceark
"I hate video games, on or offline. I hate the way they suck real people into fake worlds and hold on to them for decades at a time."

I guess this guy also hates books. and movies. and tv. and art. and anything creative. oh and lets toss religion in there too. that's gotta be the worst offender of "suck[ing] real people into fake worlds and hold[ing] on to them for decades at a time"
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 12:02
Timmeh
This is funny coming from someone of the same age group that is often found heckling soap actors in the street because of the actions of their on screen character.

TV soap operas have LITERALLY been sucking people into their worlds for decades. Maybe if we cancel those the miserable old bastard will go out camping or something where he won't be able to publish his worthless rhetoric online. And gets eaten by a bear. Hopefully.
Trevor McGee's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 12:23
Trevor McGee


Like ^this^ but not as funny or cool. As the late great Walter Matthau would say "What a putz!"
Nogarda's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 12:24
Nogarda
shhh.... can u hear it?.... thats the distant sound of Fox news scrambling over each other to get control of the phone to call him and get him live via satelitte. I think you just found Jack Thompson's distant relative cousin brain twice removed.
Kaspar's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 12:33
Kaspar
After reading the real shit.

"I will never buy my children a Nintendo"

I can't express my current feeling with words. WHAT THE FUCK may come close.
Pangloss's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 12:37
Pangloss
@Kaspar: Oh, the words come to mind easily enough. It's something like "Iwata's FUCKED now."
Axle's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 12:50
Axle
In spite of what has been said on this forum over the past couple of days, I do appreciate what you attempt to give to videogames and gamers: a way to see all of the rubbish that gets written about our hobby.

This article in The Times is particularly heinous, did anyone ever see the one that said 'videogames are evil su doku', written by a dummy mummy columnist?

Keep fighting the good fight Jim, I don't always agree with your methods, but I supposewhen all's said and done, the ends justifies the means . . .
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 12:55
king3vbo
This guy probably hates everything
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 13:20
MechaMonkey
Giles Whittell was later found dead in his home after overdosing on Viagra. A Pac-Man arcade cabinet had been set up in the middle of the room where he was found, and Mr. Whittell's pants were undone.
spacecadetjoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 13:27
spacecadetjoe
this dude is an asshole no doubt, but should we really be railing against the paper that printed it? It's an editorial, not a piece of journalism. People can say what they want in editorials and they don't necessarily represent the opinion or tone of the paper itself.
necrozen's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 13:31
necrozen
LOL

Wow. Well, I suppose it is the job of these dinosaurs to anchor the ships of progress, slowing them, keeping them from moving so fast that...

Yeah, they serve no purpose. Honestly, the world would be better if they didn't exist.
Upgrayedd's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 13:35
Upgrayedd
The more I study journalism, the more I realize the surprisingly high number of unprofessional, petty, talentless hacks that have made it their profession.

Sometimes I wonder if I picked the right field to go into.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 13:37
Sharpless
Yes, games are wrong and evil because you and your kids aren't disciplined enough to know when to turn them off, you glorious fucking moron.
tkyy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 13:43
tkyy
How many threatened dinosaurs must die?
Linkoman's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 14:05
Linkoman
Hey wanna hear a funny joke?
Old people! Haha what a joke!
Blommen's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 14:15
Blommen
Hehe old men...
HideousKojima's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 14:20
HideousKojima
People laughing at old people are the ones truly scared to be old.Anyways,the Geezer who hates games probably has more reasons than that excerpt designed to MOB the fogey,he probably misses his grandchildren who rather waggle a wiimote than spend time with him...It's just a man ranting about time that he cannot waste.
wobblefunk's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 14:25
wobblefunk
well he has convinced me, games are a waste of time. wait.....its spreading. i now no longer like tom clancys books, discworld, alien, predator, internet, music. my life is over :(


haha fuck that shit
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 14:25
Jim Sterling
"this dude is an asshole no doubt, but should we really be railing against the paper that printed it? It's an editorial, not a piece of journalism. People can say what they want in editorials and they don't necessarily represent the opinion or tone of the paper itself."

The paper itself told lies about the Byron report. That says enough.
liquidninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 14:29
liquidninja
I'd hate to say it Jim but...
Video Games can be a huge waist of time just like phone calls to friends and internet surfing and commenting on blogs.

If you have kids its good to show them how to have fun without them so they can tell cool stories about doing stupid crap that almost killed them.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 14:31
Jim Sterling
liquidninja: That's not the point. EVERYTHING is a huge waste of time in the end. We all fucking die and all we accomplish is naught. I don't see this wretched old fossil say how he "hates" any of the other great wastes of time out there. He's a hypocrite and a freak.
Axion22's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 14:37
Axion22
Does this man fit the descriptions of any missing elderly people filed over the weekend? We have a disoriented elderly gentleman who has somehow gained access to the Internet, and there are apparently children standing on his lawn, with gameboys and boomboxes.

Get off his lawn, you kids!
namtastic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 15:06
namtastic
Yup. Anything done for recreation could be considered a waste of time.

Camping, to me, is a big waste of time. But I've camped before, so I know. I was "made" to do it in the sense that someone said it'd be fun and I would really enjoy it. I tried it, and it didn't click.

Hence the point: I would think one of the goals of raising children is so that their interests are well-rounded and varied. Exposing them to different activities is paramount. But forbidding what is clearly a popular mainstream medium -- especially if they *do* have interest in it -- is limiting them, not helping them.
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 15:11
TrailerParkJesus
Save the children! More camping, slow driving, hard candy, and peach cobbler
Evo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2008 15:22
Evo
Much love to Jim for the mention :)
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