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Are there any killer games on kinect?
As far as I can see people are using kinect to do everything except playing games.
As far as I can see people are using kinect to do everything except playing games.
In Japan the "killer app" for Kinect would probably be some sort of schoolgirl dating or sex simulator.
Or hey, I bet it could track the trajectory of your pee if you set it up in the restroom. "WHO PEE FARTHEST!?" would be a total system seller.
Or hey, I bet it could track the trajectory of your pee if you set it up in the restroom. "WHO PEE FARTHEST!?" would be a total system seller.
I'm just waiting on a solid library of games for Kinect. I have been keeping my eye out since I tried this at a rental store and loved it.
How many Xbox units are even sold in Japan? A million? It might be disappointing compared to Xbox loving America, but it could be a decent sell through rate for the market.
Its no surprise for so many reasons it isn't even funny, and I dare say shouldn't even be noteworthy:
1) Many of us over here still don't want to buy it either.
2) No games or Most games are glorified tech demos.
3) 360 isn't all that big over there in the first place. If it was, and it didn't sell, then I'd think things are fishy.
4) And this ones a biggie -Word is Japanese houses/apartments are small - Microsoft didn't make this thing with small places in mind. (See: The entire reason for Nyko's extra lens attachment.)
1) Many of us over here still don't want to buy it either.
2) No games or Most games are glorified tech demos.
3) 360 isn't all that big over there in the first place. If it was, and it didn't sell, then I'd think things are fishy.
4) And this ones a biggie -Word is Japanese houses/apartments are small - Microsoft didn't make this thing with small places in mind. (See: The entire reason for Nyko's extra lens attachment.)
Can we trash motion gaming all together?
Untill it evolves into something more like VR its really just a gimmick
I want a controller with 22 buttons and 4 sticks puleez
Untill it evolves into something more like VR its really just a gimmick
I want a controller with 22 buttons and 4 sticks puleez
"Gimmick" - the most misused word of this entire generation.
OT: Does this mean we're going back to "Japan hates everything not Japan", Jonathan Holmes?
I'm confused and need your help.
OT: Does this mean we're going back to "Japan hates everything not Japan", Jonathan Holmes?
I'm confused and need your help.
Kinect would do much better if developers could release more titles along the quality of dance central/dance central 2. why those two titles have such vastly superior motion tracking capabilities than other kinect releases is beyond me. with that said, i love my kinect for that franchise alone. i just wish there were more titles of similar quality.
Kinect isn't going to appeal to the more traditional gamer, but for the DDR, Wii Fit etc. crowd, it has huge potential. It just needs the library to back it up.
Kinect isn't going to appeal to the more traditional gamer, but for the DDR, Wii Fit etc. crowd, it has huge potential. It just needs the library to back it up.
The only good thing that anyone has to say about Kinect is that it sold 10 million copies. No one can actually point to anything that it actually does that is somehow worth the money. Keep in mind, 3DS is not worth $150 according to popular gamer opinion. Yet here we have this mystery machine for the same price called Kinect and yet, I never hear about how shit it truly is. What is the great game on this? Are there any? Did they have a single holiday game this year?
They don't have shit for it right now. The fact that Japanese didn't bother with it just seems like a good call to me. I still have no idea how so many people fell for it in the west. I blame Oprah.
They don't have shit for it right now. The fact that Japanese didn't bother with it just seems like a good call to me. I still have no idea how so many people fell for it in the west. I blame Oprah.
This proves Japan is smarter than America? You may have a point about relative intelligence, llort het, but I don't think this shows anything of the kind. Japan loves useless gadgets and gimmicky junk, but they don't like the 360 and it's hardly surprising that if no one in Japan is buying the 360, that no one in Japan would buy a high-priced accessory for the 360. No, if anything the worldwide success of both the 360 and Kinect while making no significant market penetration in Japan just shows that Japan is no longer the dominating force in the games industry that it once was.
"Last we heard, more than 10 million Kinects had been sold worldwide..."
right and nearly all of them are probably collecting dust in closets next to their Wii's, lol.
right and nearly all of them are probably collecting dust in closets next to their Wii's, lol.
Ahhhhhhhh....... Good old japan where they see black ppl as massive 10ft tall 400ib monsters that can throw you with their bare hands. Wish I lived there love asain women and I'm bound to eventually get lucky
@Shinta
I've had a Kinect for over a year now, so I'll bite. The good thing about Kinect? Motion Control gaming with no controllers required. You ARE the controller. This allows for full body movement in games without cumbersome crap like PSMove and Wii controllers flying through your brand new LED flatscreen, dragging some embarrassing device into the middle of your living room floor to play DDR that looks like an android twister mat on drugs, or trying to balance on a 12 inch rectangular piece of plastic while doing yoga moves and holding a wiimote in your hand.
If you don't like motion gaming then none of this probably appeals to you, but for the crowd who loves dance dance revolution, wii fit and the like, the Kinect is an incredible step up from its predecessors. The Dance Central franchise is probably the best example of what the Kinect is capable of - its fun, it can be played alone or in a group, it has great replay value, and is exceptionally responsive and accurate when it comes to the kinect's motion-control camera. The Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports games are great as well.
The biggest problem the Kinect has right now is a lack of quality titles, but its far from a 'junk' gadget.
I've had a Kinect for over a year now, so I'll bite. The good thing about Kinect? Motion Control gaming with no controllers required. You ARE the controller. This allows for full body movement in games without cumbersome crap like PSMove and Wii controllers flying through your brand new LED flatscreen, dragging some embarrassing device into the middle of your living room floor to play DDR that looks like an android twister mat on drugs, or trying to balance on a 12 inch rectangular piece of plastic while doing yoga moves and holding a wiimote in your hand.
If you don't like motion gaming then none of this probably appeals to you, but for the crowd who loves dance dance revolution, wii fit and the like, the Kinect is an incredible step up from its predecessors. The Dance Central franchise is probably the best example of what the Kinect is capable of - its fun, it can be played alone or in a group, it has great replay value, and is exceptionally responsive and accurate when it comes to the kinect's motion-control camera. The Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports games are great as well.
The biggest problem the Kinect has right now is a lack of quality titles, but its far from a 'junk' gadget.
@ Shinta,
I use it for basic 3D scanning. For that it's worth it's price twice over. You can create some really great effects in After Effects as well if you know what you're doing.
There's nothing else in its price range that does what it does quite so well and quite so easily. Yes, there may not be many great games for it at the moment, but its non-game applications more than justify the price tag for me, and from what we've seen so far, other people.
The difference with the 3DS is that it ONLY has gaming applications. Nothing wrong with that, hell I love my 3DS, but there's your difference between the two things right there.
I use it for basic 3D scanning. For that it's worth it's price twice over. You can create some really great effects in After Effects as well if you know what you're doing.
There's nothing else in its price range that does what it does quite so well and quite so easily. Yes, there may not be many great games for it at the moment, but its non-game applications more than justify the price tag for me, and from what we've seen so far, other people.
The difference with the 3DS is that it ONLY has gaming applications. Nothing wrong with that, hell I love my 3DS, but there's your difference between the two things right there.
Shinta,
take your waifu body pillow and ceramic busty figures and move your otaku ass to Japan already.
QQ ~ THESE WHITE DEVILS DON'T UNDERSTAND ME AND MY MANGAS ~ QQ
take your waifu body pillow and ceramic busty figures and move your otaku ass to Japan already.
QQ ~ THESE WHITE DEVILS DON'T UNDERSTAND ME AND MY MANGAS ~ QQ
@sugar unicorn you sound just like a back cover from the knect. And you obviouskky has an biased oppinion. Woundnt be surprised if you work for M$. "This allows for full body movement in games" You mean "in TWO games" right? I'm being generous. There are nothing worthwile on Knect; it doesnt have games, simply put.
The library may not be killer, but Child of Eden, Rise of Nightmares, The Gunstringer, Dance Central 1 and 2, Forza 4 are all decent. With Mass Effect 3, Ghost Recon, Halo 4 and others on the way, are we too early to judge the Kinect for what it is?
Too bad those numbers aren't worldwide. Then may be MS would go back to making quality exclusives for gamers over the age of 12.
How long are we going to give a crap about what Japan thinks when it comes to gaming? I think most of us would agree that the xbox 360 is an excellent system. Look how it performs in Japan. I'm supposed to take their opinion on the Kinnect to heart? Maybe they need to swallow some of that National pride and take a look at what sells in America. Gamers are no longer interested in androgynous heroes who pall around with furries with annoying voices. They also don't like using decades old mechanics. The Japanophile will counter that the west only likes shooters etc. No, many like change and new ideas. You can't find that coming out of Japan recently.
Dance Central 1 and 2 are both super fun. My wife and I are having fun with the 2 player dance battles (especially the Humpty Dance). Bowling on Kinect Sports is pretty good (insert Brett Elston quote here). None of the above interferes with me playing Batman, Saint's Row III and Battlefield 3. If you don't have enough room for one, C'est la vie, but don't knock it until you try it.
I'm not trying to be funny but I have always said I think Japan is a hell of a lot smarter than Japan!
since when japan was relevant again? oh wait, during this generation it never was.
i love how sony fanboys bash Kinect without even playing any games on it.
@Shinta and Leonardo Bandeira,
facepalm, if you're blind fanboy without any knowledge then just don't post.
Dance Central series, Your Shape series, Child of Eden, with Gunstringer, Sesame Street: Once Upon a Monster, Disneyland Adventures and Rise of Nightmares all launching in the past 3 months. then we have gigantic list of core titles coming next year and games with additional support for Kinect like Forza 4, Mass Effect 3 or Halo Anniversary.
@PrinceHeir,
both games are coming in early 2012.
i love how sony fanboys bash Kinect without even playing any games on it.
@Shinta and Leonardo Bandeira,
facepalm, if you're blind fanboy without any knowledge then just don't post.
Dance Central series, Your Shape series, Child of Eden, with Gunstringer, Sesame Street: Once Upon a Monster, Disneyland Adventures and Rise of Nightmares all launching in the past 3 months. then we have gigantic list of core titles coming next year and games with additional support for Kinect like Forza 4, Mass Effect 3 or Halo Anniversary.
@PrinceHeir,
both games are coming in early 2012.
also, it wouldn't hurt to have at least correct sales numbers. Kinect Adventures(bundled game) sold over 120k copies IN FIRST 10 WEEKS and after that it sold additional 60k copies. same goes to software sales.
@sofik88 kinect and move are equally Shit. All those games you listed are casual shit, and are genuinely terrible games, except gunstringer. And before you label me a 'sony fanboy' the move is just as bad in terms of software. Except sorcery
@leonardo
... uh, because i have a kinect and actually use and enjoy it, im biased and must be part of some evil microsoft plot to infiltrate destructoid comment sections? good god, remove the tinfoil hat kiddo.
... uh, because i have a kinect and actually use and enjoy it, im biased and must be part of some evil microsoft plot to infiltrate destructoid comment sections? good god, remove the tinfoil hat kiddo.
@jackdan594
movement based gaming is by definition a playstyle that caters towards casual games. games like dance central are a great workout, and despite the replayability in them, they aren't games you play in marathon sessions. that doesn't make them bad. and really, what is so awful about dance central anyways? that its a dance game and its not ~hardcore~ enough for you? not liking a certain genre of game doesnt make the entire genre shit.
im not really sure what's so bad about casual games anyways.. i mean, there is more to the gaming world than callofbattlefielddutywarfare17vietnam and 700 clone fantasy rpgs.
movement based gaming is by definition a playstyle that caters towards casual games. games like dance central are a great workout, and despite the replayability in them, they aren't games you play in marathon sessions. that doesn't make them bad. and really, what is so awful about dance central anyways? that its a dance game and its not ~hardcore~ enough for you? not liking a certain genre of game doesnt make the entire genre shit.
im not really sure what's so bad about casual games anyways.. i mean, there is more to the gaming world than callofbattlefielddutywarfare17vietnam and 700 clone fantasy rpgs.
Me not liking a genre doesn't make it Shit. The game being bad at its genre makes it Shit. Though I guess it works for what it does, its still part of the craptastic trend of motion gaming
From what I've heard from the users I've spoken to in Japan, many were turned off by the range issue with the Kinect - with the people who have purchased it using devices like the Nyko Zoom in order to make it usable.
OK, so Microsoft have said that with the Dashboard update comes improved detection and reduces the required range to work, but I think as the band Silver Sun once said: "Too Much, Too Little, Too Late."
OK, so Microsoft have said that with the Dashboard update comes improved detection and reduces the required range to work, but I think as the band Silver Sun once said: "Too Much, Too Little, Too Late."
@Football Religion
Yeah, that!
I'm genuinely happy they are moving it out of games and into more mainstream stuff. Although, Kinect Ads was truly ground breaking!
Yeah, that!
I'm genuinely happy they are moving it out of games and into more mainstream stuff. Although, Kinect Ads was truly ground breaking!
Shinta
The only good thing that anyone has to say about Kinect is that it sold 10 million copies. No one can actually point to anything that it actually does that is somehow worth the money. Keep in mind, 3DS is not worth $150 according to popular gamer opinion. Yet here we have this mystery machine for the same price called Kinect and yet, I never hear about how shit it truly is. What is the great game on this? Are there any? Did they have a single holiday game this year?
They don't have shit for it right now. The fact that Japanese didn't bother with it just seems like a good call to me. I still have no idea how so many people fell for it in the west. I blame Oprah.
^THIS^
All of this, every word.
Personally I prefer my Move+Sharshooter set up. I don't play dancing games.... but I do play shooting games, so it's a no-brainer for me.
The only good thing that anyone has to say about Kinect is that it sold 10 million copies. No one can actually point to anything that it actually does that is somehow worth the money. Keep in mind, 3DS is not worth $150 according to popular gamer opinion. Yet here we have this mystery machine for the same price called Kinect and yet, I never hear about how shit it truly is. What is the great game on this? Are there any? Did they have a single holiday game this year?
They don't have shit for it right now. The fact that Japanese didn't bother with it just seems like a good call to me. I still have no idea how so many people fell for it in the west. I blame Oprah.
^THIS^
All of this, every word.
Personally I prefer my Move+Sharshooter set up. I don't play dancing games.... but I do play shooting games, so it's a no-brainer for me.
@jackdan594,
i think most people here and all those raged fanboys that games once were about....OH MY GOD, FUN. yes i said it, FUN. DAMN ME.
Dance Central is great dancing title, frankly it's the only real dancing title and honestly i have more fun playing it than pretending that i play Uncharted or God of War when it's all QTEs, "press X to win" gameplay(that is very popular these days with games like Call of Duty, LA Noire, Uncharted, Assassins Creed etc.) and corridors without any type of fun.
i'm enjoying the time i spend playing Dance Central and same goes to Rise of Nightmares or Gunstringer. Your Shape is not a game, but it's also not a garbage - for me it's great addition to my fitness routine that makes exercising actually fun. it makes usually boring part of my life actually fun and exciting thanks to direct feedback i get from the game.
i play loads of very different games from difficult simulators, point & click adventure games, hardcore wargames, fighting games, action games to very weird niche titles and more casual games, but it was always about having fun. if i don't have fun with the game i'm not interested.
i love games like Dark Souls, Mount & Blade, Gemini Rue, Dragon Age Origins, Civilization, de Blob, Zelda, Total War, Forza, Endless Ocean, Trauma Center, Mario platformers, Nier, Halo, Dance Central etc. on the other hand i hate titles like Uncharted, Call of Duty, Killzone, Final Fantasy 13, Metal Gear Solid 2/3/4(weirdly enough i loved Peace Walker), Fallout 3, God of War, Dragon Age 2 or Gran Turismo.
i think most people here and all those raged fanboys that games once were about....OH MY GOD, FUN. yes i said it, FUN. DAMN ME.
Dance Central is great dancing title, frankly it's the only real dancing title and honestly i have more fun playing it than pretending that i play Uncharted or God of War when it's all QTEs, "press X to win" gameplay(that is very popular these days with games like Call of Duty, LA Noire, Uncharted, Assassins Creed etc.) and corridors without any type of fun.
i'm enjoying the time i spend playing Dance Central and same goes to Rise of Nightmares or Gunstringer. Your Shape is not a game, but it's also not a garbage - for me it's great addition to my fitness routine that makes exercising actually fun. it makes usually boring part of my life actually fun and exciting thanks to direct feedback i get from the game.
i play loads of very different games from difficult simulators, point & click adventure games, hardcore wargames, fighting games, action games to very weird niche titles and more casual games, but it was always about having fun. if i don't have fun with the game i'm not interested.
i love games like Dark Souls, Mount & Blade, Gemini Rue, Dragon Age Origins, Civilization, de Blob, Zelda, Total War, Forza, Endless Ocean, Trauma Center, Mario platformers, Nier, Halo, Dance Central etc. on the other hand i hate titles like Uncharted, Call of Duty, Killzone, Final Fantasy 13, Metal Gear Solid 2/3/4(weirdly enough i loved Peace Walker), Fallout 3, God of War, Dragon Age 2 or Gran Turismo.
@sofik88
You know, I actually agree with a lot of what you're saying. Dance central work fantastically for what they aim to do; not exactly my style of gaming, but I can respect that. Both move and kinect (as hardware) are very good pieces of technology. With move, and to a lesser extent, kinect, potential for their tech isn't being used enough. Although Gunstringer and Sorcery seems to be very good games for their respective devices.
My underlying point is, while I'm not a fan of kinect or move, I can admit they are good at what they do, and work for their target audiences. Can you also accept that a majority of those games.you listed that you hate are in fact genuinely good.games that you may not have.interest in, yet are.still good at what they do? Because if I can do it for motion gaming, something a mainly loathe, I'm sure you can realise this for a few measly Sony exclusives, which most of your list was.
You know, I actually agree with a lot of what you're saying. Dance central work fantastically for what they aim to do; not exactly my style of gaming, but I can respect that. Both move and kinect (as hardware) are very good pieces of technology. With move, and to a lesser extent, kinect, potential for their tech isn't being used enough. Although Gunstringer and Sorcery seems to be very good games for their respective devices.
My underlying point is, while I'm not a fan of kinect or move, I can admit they are good at what they do, and work for their target audiences. Can you also accept that a majority of those games.you listed that you hate are in fact genuinely good.games that you may not have.interest in, yet are.still good at what they do? Because if I can do it for motion gaming, something a mainly loathe, I'm sure you can realise this for a few measly Sony exclusives, which most of your list was.
sofik88 - "facepalm, if you're blind fanboy without any knowledge then just don't post. "
sofik should listen to his own words sometime.
sofik should listen to his own words sometime.
@jackdan594,
for me those aren't exactly good games per se(if you want me to post ratings or something i won't). they have load of things that simply pisses me of and make them unplayable. i hate:
- general lack of freedom in games(God of War, CoD),
- shallow gameplay or as developers like to call it "streamlining"(Call of Duty),
- taking away from me by the developers gameplay elements(that's especially goes to Assassins Creed, Heavy Rain, FF13 and Uncharted),
- retarded or ridiculous design choices(Gran Turismo 5 with it's menu, limitations, standard vs premium BS),
- difference in quality between elements of games,
it's different between genres(you can't say about lack of freedom in adventure games really).
i can say that game has high production values or that it has good audio, but if it's not fun it's simply not good. Uncharted 3 and LA Noire are great examples of that - i won't go into details, but basically both were products with high production values and nothing else besides it. for me LA Noire is the biggest disappointment of 2011.
for me those aren't exactly good games per se(if you want me to post ratings or something i won't). they have load of things that simply pisses me of and make them unplayable. i hate:
- general lack of freedom in games(God of War, CoD),
- shallow gameplay or as developers like to call it "streamlining"(Call of Duty),
- taking away from me by the developers gameplay elements(that's especially goes to Assassins Creed, Heavy Rain, FF13 and Uncharted),
- retarded or ridiculous design choices(Gran Turismo 5 with it's menu, limitations, standard vs premium BS),
- difference in quality between elements of games,
it's different between genres(you can't say about lack of freedom in adventure games really).
i can say that game has high production values or that it has good audio, but if it's not fun it's simply not good. Uncharted 3 and LA Noire are great examples of that - i won't go into details, but basically both were products with high production values and nothing else besides it. for me LA Noire is the biggest disappointment of 2011.
@Jinx01 already done http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57332302-1/urinal-games-give-whizzes-a-new-aim/
I'm surprised Japan didn't even go for Dance Central. That seems exactly like the kind of game they'd respond to.
Maybe Idolmaster Kinect?
Maybe Idolmaster Kinect?
Both sides of the argument are only opinion, and subjective. Something it appears many trolls do not understand. Just because you feel it doesn't mean everyone else does or has to.
Kinect/move has some quality titles in 'my opinion'. It is not for everyone and it shouldn't be. Is an RPG or a shooter for everyone, no. Does this mean that kinect/move should not exist, of course not. The trolls lack common sense and are selfish.
The other idea that it is common gamer opinion move/kinect sucks or 3ds is not worth 150 is so retarded. You took a poll? What demographic/charct. was your sample? Just more subjective nonsense.
I enjoy every system, but if I didn't enjoy the move or kinect doesn't mean someone else cannot enjoy them. I usually don't bother to comment on this topic due to trolling-sexual choc/sofi and company.
I know the world is full of selfish assholes, but keep your negative sh&* to yourself and allow people to enjoy their games.
Kinect/move has some quality titles in 'my opinion'. It is not for everyone and it shouldn't be. Is an RPG or a shooter for everyone, no. Does this mean that kinect/move should not exist, of course not. The trolls lack common sense and are selfish.
The other idea that it is common gamer opinion move/kinect sucks or 3ds is not worth 150 is so retarded. You took a poll? What demographic/charct. was your sample? Just more subjective nonsense.
I enjoy every system, but if I didn't enjoy the move or kinect doesn't mean someone else cannot enjoy them. I usually don't bother to comment on this topic due to trolling-sexual choc/sofi and company.
I know the world is full of selfish assholes, but keep your negative sh&* to yourself and allow people to enjoy their games.
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