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Original Xbox Live support getting discontinued in April photo

On April 15, there will be no more original Xbox Live support. This affects both the original console, games and Xbox Originals that have Live features. Major Nelson doesn't go into the exact detail on the reasoning behind the change, but does at least say that this will allow for the Live service to evolve and change for the better.

Seeing as how the main reason the friends list is capped at 100 because of Halo 2, it's easy to put two-and-two together here and see what one of the new features will be for Xbox Live. Puppies. Everyone is going to get freaking puppies. Oh, and we'll most likely be able to add more than 100 friends finally.

Xbox LIVE being discontinued for Original Xbox consoles and games [Major Nelson]








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pentimento's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 04:02
pentimento
Great! Thanks to these new developments, I can finally befriend 101 dalmatians on Xbox Live!
Steve Sprinkel's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 04:29
Steve Sprinkel
Oh well, the only original game I ever played online was Chaos Theory, so I can deal with this. The gaming industry is about evolution anyway.
UntidyDubs's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 04:43
UntidyDubs
I know most people probably won't care about this now, but dang, this means no more Street Fighter III for me :(
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 04:48
Chronic Logic
A little over seven years, that's seems long enough. Can't imagine anybody still plays the Xbox online anymore.
Tron's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 04:49
Tron
doesn't matter to me. I don't even have 10 friends on xbox live.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 05:12
Sexualchocolate
10 year lifecycle.....
chronicdog's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 05:16
chronicdog
Hugely disappointing decision, as Burnout 3 is one of the best online games ever made. Now generations in the future will never know what a truly great online arcade racer is like. I am deeply saddened and sincerely hope Microsoft figures out a workaround or reconsiders its decision. Hundreds of people still play Splinter Cell, Halo 2, Crimson Skies, SFIII and other classic games on Xbox Live every day, why punish these people when there simply must be a better solution?
Infamy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 05:24
Infamy
Friends list update incoming.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 05:25
Chronic Logic
I Imagine people can pretty much buy the games on the 360 on Demand and play them still.
atastysammich's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 05:29
atastysammich
I HATE PUPPIES. THIS IS TERRIBLE NEWS.
nanowerx's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 05:50
nanowerx
I'm more shocked that they still supported original Xbox games on Live. Color me suprised and uninterested in this news. At $200, nobody should pass up a 360. Time to upgrade people
Lugtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 06:08
Lugtor
This is what sucks on Consoles and not beeing able to Host on your own System. Bad enough that this seems to be trend on PC too.
UntidyDubs's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 06:09
UntidyDubs
@nanowerx

Games that are backwards compatible that still have Live support are affected, it's not a case of upgrading :)
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 06:40
timtheterrible
Good, I thought my corgi was googly-eyed, but I guess they're supposed to be like that.
Netnavi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 06:55
Netnavi
Well therem goes that theory of always having Xbox games alway being online. WTF are we paying for again? I thought it was P2P or something technical which meant that we are paying for basically shit just to play online with cross game chat.

I don't understand why they are taking away original Xbox live service away. That seems stupid and I really am rethinking about where my money goes from now on.
Butternine's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 06:59
Butternine
So that means no more DLC or updates available for download for original Xbox games either?

That's not a big deal for me, but it is if they plan on discontinuing 360 support 10 years down the road. (Which they will eventually, of course)
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 07:22
Tarvu
I also hate Puppies, I am sick of Microsoft and it's fucking puppies. I want kittens.

Side note: [b]BUT HALO 2!?[b/]
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 07:40
ScottyG
Oh, that would be nice. Now I don't have to remove people I don't play with so I can add other people I don't play with. :D :D :D
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 07:50
Tarvu
THe more I think about it the less I mind, I don't play Halo 2 often and local play is more rewarding anyway.
Unit 076's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 07:51
Unit 076
Damnit, and I never got a chance to play Halo 2 online!
MowDownJoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 07:56
MowDownJoe
DAWWWW! Corgi puppy!

...What was the post about?
the7k's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 07:58
the7k
This seriously saddens me. After April 15th, playing Capcom Vs SNK 2 will be IMPOSSIBLE. Street Fighter III can still be played with GGPO, but not CvS2.
UntidyDubs's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 08:05
UntidyDubs
CvS2 was even backwards compatible? Not for us in the EU. :(
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 08:24
Xzyliac
So wait the reason we're capped at 100 is because of Halo 2? God damn Halo ruins everything!
The Amazing Shenazin's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 08:32
The Amazing Shenazin
so you'll no longer be able to play Halo 2 online? or any Xbox 1 game online including the two online Splinter Cells? this sucks mega hard
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 08:55
DaedHead8
I would have hoped that original xbox live support would have stayed for as long as people were willing to pay for it. Oh well.
Kenny Shelton's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 08:58
Kenny Shelton
Considering I just bout Crimson Skies off the Xbox Live Marketplace and I still enjoy a round of Conker and Star Wars: Battlefront II- this news really sucks. Hopefully those 3 will be getting sequels sometime soon.
slayer the player's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 09:06
slayer the player
guess i need to redownload the halo 2 maps before they are gone forever, or buy the map pack disk
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 09:16
Rammstein
God damn Halo ruins everything!

I agree with this. Good riddance.

I can't imagine many people were using the service to play original Xbox games anyways. There are so many damn good games on 360, who needs the, what, 12 good XBox1 games? Hell, I can't even remember what my favorite game was....Unreal Championship maybe?? No one cares about XBox1. :P
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 09:18
Bob Muir
What irritates me most is that there is no system in place for allowing fans to resuscitate these games on their own terms. PC developers would release the patch files, add-ons, and online info to the community, but because of the nature of console development, any online would have to be reverse-engineered, and the distribution of DLC will be extremely difficult. Honestly, I don't play online that much, but I'm irritated at the prospect that I may buy an Xbox game down the road and be unable to download any enhancements or fixes put out for it.

And more importantly, this is an ill omen for a time when the 360 has become last-gen. If my hard drive full of the entirety of the Rock Band catalog, dozens of XBLA games, game saves, and fully patched support for every game I own were to die, I would be out possibly thousands of dollars if support for the 360 were someday disabled, with no way to redownload them to a new hard drive. I'd like to think that the next Xbox would support backwards compatibility and let me carry over everything tied to my account as well, but nothing's guaranteed in this day and age.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 09:20
Maurice Tan
@Necros: the most important games could arguably just be played through XBConnect's emulation of LAN play over internet.

Glad to hear they are discontinuing it, bring on a bigger friends list. And don't give us a 150 friends limit please...
LsTr Of SmG's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 09:20
LsTr Of SmG
I'm assuming they'll drop the price of Xbox originals now then? Since they've essentially lopped off part of the value for some of them.

Nah, who'm I kidding!

Other than that, I don't really see this as much of a problem. Sure I booted up a few old games now and then but if it means extra headroom for the service I'm all for it. I do think they should look at repricing certain Xbox Originals for which online multiplayer is a key component though.
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 09:21
Rammstein
Oh and @Hamza: That is one cute fucking dog! I just wanna rub my Stylus all over his face--err.. That sounded bad.. :x
Jared Ari's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 09:27
Jared Ari
@Necros: That is all assuming that your console even still works. I wouldn't be surprised if every Xbox 360 in the world hasn't red ringed by then. That's not fanboyism, it's basic statistics.
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 09:31
Rammstein
I think what Necros and other people are confused about what this means.

XBox1 games are not going away

Just the ability to play them online. You will still be able to buy them/own them/play the singleplayer portion of them for years to come. However the ONLINE portion shall be nixed. Sucks for Halo2 fans but if you take a peek at my avatar, you can see how much I care about Halo. ;)
NostalGeek's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 09:33
NostalGeek
And yet it's a service we actually PAY for.
That's a bit disappointing, I don't really play any Xbox games online but I'm sure a lot of people still are.

And really.... who needs 150 friends??
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 09:35
Rammstein
@Arianol: No. Just no. Go away, troll.
LsTr Of SmG's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 09:40
LsTr Of SmG
@ Rammstein,

I think you're insulting Necros' intelligence a tad, although certainly not intentionally, he realises that the single player and system link will be unaffected by this. His main concern is regarding DLC and updates for games he might pick up in the future, or for his current games were he to lose said data. As he states the lack of online play doesn't bother him much, if at all.

I think it's rather uncharitable to suggest that he thinks 'Xbox1 games are going away'.

(I'd like to take the time to say that I'm not berating you in any way, I just thought I'd attempt to clarify Necros' position as you appear to have misunderstood him a little.)
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 09:45
manasteel88
while this is to be expected, this isn't good news. removing online from any game is BS, especially if you pay money for a service to play them online.

If you don't plan on supporting online games don't build a model built around online gaming.
Zeta Crossfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 09:54
Zeta Crossfire
FFUUUCCKKK!!!
CtMythic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 10:13
CtMythic
So, PR bullshit aside, Xbox 1 support is being turned off because Microsoft likes money.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 10:14
RenegadePanda
Finally.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 10:17
Shadowiii
Don't care. Halo 2 is great and all, but Halo 3 is just as good. I'm sure the hardcore would fight me over this, but they really are so similar I fail to see the huge loss.
Kinda lame that if you bought it over Games on Demand they still won't work, though. Actually that's way lame.
Meh, the Xbox (original) didn't really have a ton of great games anyway. I think I only played Halo 2, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, and Psychonauts since I got my 360. The rest of them I got rid of.
360COMIC's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 10:19
360COMIC
i don't know... i didn't buy any xbox originals from the marketplace. BUT, what about the people who did? pulling that rug out from under them, doesn't really seem fair. i'm all for the betterment of xbox live though. gotta break some eggs i quess.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 10:29
Xzyliac
@Arianol
My launch year 360 and my newer 360 both work fine. Never had an issue.

Don't ask why I have two 360s. Call it a weird turn of events. :/

@Necros
While I see your point, unlike the PC, DLC and patches never really became a big deal for consoles until this gen. So the chances of you picking up an Xbox game and having it broken without a patch or DLC-less aren't very good.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 11:16
RenegadePanda
Also, I think the XOG games were not fully compatible with XBL, I seem to remember hearing that somewhere.

If anyone is still playing Halo 2, it's about time they upgrade anyway. That's like someone still playing Killzone 1 online, which I hope no one does.

@Xzyliac

I also have 2 360's. One I was able to get as a gift (MW2) and the other (RE5) I bought to upgrade my older unit that didn't take well to the temperature change (+several degrees) when I moved it in my room.
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 11:18
Kryptinite
I call dibs on Hamza when the friend list increases.
beverlynoelle's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 12:32
beverlynoelle
I couldn't even fill up a hundred friends...but now I won't be able to fill up MORE than a hundred friends! Now I feel extra inadequate. Damn Microsoft!
Grandmas Boy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 12:35
Grandmas Boy
For anyone still playing Halo 2: there's a new one that just came out. It's called Halo 3! Jesus Christ people, it's 20fucking10 already.
Davoidbot's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/05/2010 12:37
Davoidbot
So what's the point of paying for Xbox live?
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