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Original Star Fox creator won't do sequel, jabs at Miyamoto photo

Sad news for Star Fox fans -- in an interview with G4, the original creator of Star Fox, Dylan Cuthbert, says that he's not interested in making a new Star Fox game for at least 10 years. The reason he gives is that it would be too big of a project and would require a huge staff, and it's just not something that his company Q-Games really wants to do.

What's far more interesting about the interview is what he has to say about Miyamoto and Nintendo. When asked why developers seemed to have trouble with Star Fox when Fox actually had to run around, he pretty much says that's not how the game is supposed to be and not want core gamers want, but Miyamoto forced the point and that whatever Miyamoto wants, Miyamoto gets. He also calls the Wii a 'toy', and insinuates that part of the reason Star Fox is successful is because it attracts furries. I'm guessing that his reluctance to make the game has a lot less to do with 'time', and a lot more to do with Nintendo...

It's fairly short, but I recommend reading the full interview here at G4. It's too bad he's not going to be working on any more sequels, since as G4 points out the really good ones are usually the ones he has involvement with. If you REALLY love Star Fox though, at least you know that Nintendo will get someone else to make it.

(Also, unrelated, craziness at work means Fanboy Friday is going to be Fanboy Saturday or Fanboy Sunday this week. Sorry!)








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Zonic505's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 21:36
Zonic505
That's quite sad. I really wanted a true sequel to Star Fox 64.

Hmmmmmm, he DIDN'T say that he won't do any REMAKES....I wouldn't mind seeing the original SNES Star Fox being redone w/ Star Fox 64, the cancelled SF2, & other new things.
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 21:41
aaronf
The original StarFox with the SuperFX rocked hard core. I remember that game fondly. StarFox 64 was pretty good too.
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 21:45
AgentMOO
aw, christ, you know who is going to show up now
BlackFreefall's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 21:46
BlackFreefall
I guess we cant forget about StarFox Wii.
absolutzero's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 21:53
absolutzero
That's such a downer :( I grew up with StarFox on the SNES, as well, and love that damn game dearly as well as (almost) every SF game conceived since then--SF64 being BEASTLY and Assault being mad fun :)

In any case--if it's possible I'm sure someone else will take it upon themselves to churn out a Wii SF title. Guess we'll see--either soon or in another 10 years :(

DAMN FURRIES!!!
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 22:04
Dan CiTi
I'm crying.
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 22:12
Dv8thwonder
Tis' a sad day when fur flies over the loss of a sequel to Starfox.*cough* hairball.
Infinitys End's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 22:14
Infinitys End
Maybe they'll get Next Level Games to do it.

I'm glad he kinda nodded to SFAdventures being a total waste of time. That game should have remained Dinosaur Planet. I always looked at the ending as a metaphor for Nintendo ruining the game's design... if you don't know what I'm talking about, the main bad guy of the game, which up until that point is hyped beyond belief that he's an insanely powerful badass, gets killed in 1 hit by Andross and you're forced to fight him instead. It's retarded.
Vedicardi2's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 22:19
Vedicardi2
lol furries

A star fox in 10 years could be epic
MatCD's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 22:22
MatCD
All I want from a new game like StarFox is some on-rails flight combat and a random dudes on the bottom of the screen yelling at me to "Do A Barrel Roll" and such what not.

If Nintendo won't give him the budget to do that sort of thing, then I guess there's nothing for me to look forward to play on my Wii beside No More Heroes 2. (I could also say I'm looking forward to Metroid Prime: "New Play Control!", but that just sounds sad...)
CocoJambo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 22:31
CocoJambo
To bad he had shit all to do with Lylat Wars. If he wont do it, somebody else will.
Swizzler121's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 22:49
Swizzler121
I think Miyamoto went insane somewhere around 2003. It's really sad, I used to look up to him :(
CocoJambo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 22:51
CocoJambo
And with that "10 year" line, he basically said he's waiting for Miyamoto do die.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 22:56
Wedge
This fucker is listed as a director for the shittastic Star Fox Command and it says Q-Games made it, so I don't see what we're missing. And the best game is by far SF64, which I can't find if he had anything to do with...
Zcdrike's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 22:58
Zcdrike
Star Fox has always been one of my favorite series, and I'll contest that Adventures was a very good Zelda clone that, while flawed, did have a lot of good things to it (graphics, combat, boss fights, music). The parts of Assault that were in the Arwing or Landmaster were amazing, and I'll concede that the foot parts suck, though with some work they could be made into a fairly entertaining section of game play.

On another note: Could somebody please explain to me why "furry" is thrown around like the worlds biggest insult? One of my suite mates is a furry and I fail to see how he's the spawn of Satan. Maybe I'm just too open-minded for the internet.
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 23:15
ChronosWing
@Zcd

Umm because they are into dressing up like animals and fucking eachother? Pretty fucking retarded if you ask me.
CrocBox's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 23:21
CrocBox
That's alright with me I don't feel like there has been a really good Star Fox game since Star Fox 64. Assault was okay, but that's about it.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 23:23
Monodi
10 years? Are they fucking real?

I haven't successfully made a game yet but I don't think a game with a mechanic as Starfox64 takes 10 years.
Zcdrike's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 23:36
Zcdrike
@ Chronoswing
For the sake of argument. how is that any more retarded then the hardcore BDSM people or the roleplayers who dress up their girlfriends as slave Leia while they play Luke Skywalker? I can't get myself to care what two consenting adults choose to do privately, whatever makes them happy. I've known my suite mate for over a year now, never once have I seen him dressed up like an animal (though he did draw whiskers on his face last Halloween if that counts) or heard him make animal noises, and even if he did, I still don't see why anyone should really care.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 23:41
Kyousuke Nanbu
He speaks the truth in every aspect, especially the Wii being a toy part.

@Monodi

He said he doesn't want to make Starfox till at least 10 years pass, not that it would take 10 years.

And yea, the reason the last SF games suck so much is because they insist on the foot sections and that stuff sucks, SF64 is so fondly remembered because the ship combat WAS FUCKING AWESOME, I don't want to run around on the ground or play a Zelda knock off with fox in the place.

They need to keep it simple.
CapnCrunk's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 23:41
CapnCrunk
Furry sympathizer detected. LIGHTLY CHAR IT WITH FIRE!
Zcdrike's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 23:47
Zcdrike
"Furry sympathizer detected. LIGHTLY CHAR IT WITH FIRE!"

Just offering a different opinion *insert shrug here*
Tdiddy9182's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 23:47
Tdiddy9182
I have nothing to add to the conversation except for my undying love for one Jonathon Ross
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2009 23:57
ChronosWing
@Zcr





I can go on.
-PL-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 00:05
-PL-
Thanks a lot, furries.
WarZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 00:07
WarZombie
Good for him. I like it when developers assert themselves and have the balls to say things like this. You know what though, he's right. The best Star Fox game (I never played the original) was Star Fox 64, and anything that detracts from that is messing with a proven formula (Adventures, Assault) There's a reason that these games weren't as good as 64. Saying Miyamoto is at fault for making Star Fox into something he isn't (an on-foot game) takes guts to say, but I don't rule it out. I'm just hoping for the best, because this franchise deserves it.
Zcdrike's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 00:10
Zcdrike
@chronoswing

I'm still failing to see why that's any odder then the fanfiction.net people or the people drawing the same kind of pics only with anime characters. Just cause I don't condemn it doesn't mean I want to see it. I still don't care, let people like what they like.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 00:19
John B
WHAT? With the exception of the main article only one bonehead decided to use this as an opportunity to insult the Wii just because he could? You guys are losing your touch!

Anyway, I agree that SF64 is the best of all of them. It's definitely one of the most solid games of its kind on any platform. But the article sounds more like Cuthbert is holding a personal grudge and that he's not interested in a new Starfox more to spite Miyamoto than anything else. Oh, well. At least SF64 is available through the Virtual Console.

And, Chronoswing, those pictures are just really, really wrong, man.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 01:09
Darren Nakamura
But Fanboy Saturday doesn't have alliteration!
Kalmah's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 01:33
Kalmah
Team Sonic should take this one. Starfox Unleashed anyone?
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 01:37
Occams electric toothbrush
The chick and the poodle picture, yeah...that's my Christmas card for next year.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 02:13
pedrovay2003
I remember thinking that SuperFX was supposed to be a play on Star Fox.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 03:00
ParaParaKing
Well he DID make the terrible Star Fox Command for the DS not so very long ago. And that game was bad and I would rather not see him do anymore of them.
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 03:01
aaronf
@pedrovay2003: No, SuperFX was the snazzy chip inside the SNES StarFox cartridge that allowed it to display all those snazzy 3D graphics!
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 03:08
Knivy
I'm still your fanboy!!

Also boo at crushed dreams of a good starfox soon
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 03:10
Chronic Logic
That's right, Dylan Cuthbert, stick it to the Man! You hear that furfags?! Dylan hates your guts! Now yiff in hell! Speaking of Dylan, what exactly does he do nowadays?
Noah's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 03:32
Noah
I was going to say something trollish like 'Who cares, space shooters suck"....
but looking back Starfox is the only space shooter I've ever really enjoyed, so it's got my respect, and so does the creator.
16bitmonster's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 03:35
16bitmonster
@chronic well he made blasto right after starfox2... and then went on to head Q-games which is best known for the pixeljunk fame.

...says wiki.

:]

also, bring on more furry's in my dtoid pleeez.
themizarkshow's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 04:35
themizarkshow
now Nintendo is gonna start calling all the good developers "truly insatiable" and just focus on their first party teams doing ALL the work (aka two major releases a year) and focus third party support on more Petz games than we can count.
StriderS's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 04:43
StriderS
Miyamoto gets what he wants because he has shown that he can rake in a lot of money. As a company, I would be listening to a guy with a record like that, too.

also dylan is a ps3 spy
Springsteen's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 06:06
Springsteen
Was that... Link... and Amaterasu... getting down... to...

Damm you internet.

By the way, this Dylan guy looks like he doesn't even know where he is. Besides, when you HELP CREATE something and go around saying that you CREATED it, it just kind of makes you sound like an ass-hole. Command was boring as hell, by the way.


Besides, he looks like he's the only one who's actually happy in this picture. Wonder why.
Springsteen's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 06:35
Springsteen
Anyways, if you're not indie, F*C& YOU!
sparkthatbled's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 07:26
sparkthatbled
Maybe it's better that Cuthbert doesn't want to be involved with Starfox any more. Nintendo should really get in the Project Aces team, and make an Ace Combat-style Starfox, right down to the maximum drive melodrama.
CypherVR's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 08:41
CypherVR
Starfox 64 was great, adventures-meh. Assault - pretty close but no cigar. Get namcobandai back on they were close, so damn close.
CypherVR's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 08:46
CypherVR
..and besides the Starfox series only has 5 games total (to my recollection) while other franchises exceed it. More Starfox games.

and on that note, i'm gonna barrel roll out
Chicken008's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 09:21
Chicken008
fuckin guy
IceMax's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 10:33
IceMax
I just want star fox 2 for SNES released
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 10:34
Phoenix Gamma
Good. Star Fox Command was shit anyways.
-PL-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 10:36
-PL-
@John B

Wii sucks.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2009 10:46
Chris Carter
That bullshit picture reminded me of Starfox Adventures and now I want to throw up. Talk about an un-needed genre change. Maybe I was just part of the few that didn't like it, but I could have used a new, good Starfox game instead.

So basically they're telling us "Starfox has sucked for a long time, and even though we could easily just remake 64 with more levels and give people what they want, wait 10 years".
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