Couldn't they just make an HD remake of Twin snakes? its pretty much just a remake.

But Twin Snakes!!! Why the hell don't they include that???

This is the bit where you mention Twin Snakes for the GameCube and wonder why the Hell they're not including that

This is the bit where I mention Twin Snakes was a GameCube exclusive that Nintendo has some rights to and wonder why the Hell you didn't think of that.

They must have forgotten about twin snakes. Though personally I hate twin snakes compared to the original.

If anything it would be cool to see MGS1 on XBLA though. So that way all 3 would be on xbox.

There is already an HD version of MGS1, it's called "MGS1 for the PC".

Twin Snakes has Nintendo references in it, such as a Mario and Yoshi doll, so they probably couldn't get the rights to put it on another console or something.

@Ilort het

Keep in mind, a lot of game developers (and this guy certainly strikes me as the type) view themselves as artists. Hell, some of them ARE artists. Most creative types are very protective of their creative endeavors. If they can't make an HD version of MGS1 that they can be proud of that meets their own standards, then calling them stupid certainly isn't going to help.

It's not always about making money. It's not even always about pleasing the gamer. Sometimes, it's about being able to take pride in what you do.

worked fine on PC: http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/metal-gear-solid-integral/screenshots . Not very cute looking, sure. But come on - it played fine on 1024x768

Let me translate the entire article from "spin" to "english":
"Making new 3D models and new textures for MGS1 is much harder than just upping the resolution in MGS2 and 3 and calling it a day, and a lot more work than we're willing to make on this cash grab."

And the reason they won't use Twin Snakes is due to the license limbo this game must be in, having been developed by Silicon Knights, published by Nintendo, with the IP owner being Konami.

@eskimo bob

That's a good point, I mean they would have had to remove all of that before putting it in the collection, and I wonder if there would have also been issues with it being developed by Silicon Knights.

When they do decide to re imagine MGS1, ill be waiting with my credit card.

I had always hoped the inclusion of Shadow Moses in MGS4 was a hint at a possible remake of MGS1 on PS3, rather than a remastering.

That hope has since dwindled down to simple dreaming.

It's been stated already, but I feel like chiming in. If I remember right, Twin Snakes is not purely Konami/Kojima owned. It was a collaboration between Konami/Kojima, Nintendo, and Silicon Knights (Too Human, Eternal Darkness). I'm pretty sure that property is pretty tied up as far as licenses go. It's a shame too, because it's a fantastic game (my favorite version of MGS) and even today (6 or 7 years later) it holds up beautifully on GC. I would be fairly surprised to see it remade any time soon.

@Jawmuncher
"Enough money can get past license issues"

Cost vs benefit. At some point it's just more cost-effective to make a new game with that cash.

Besides, they're not simply gonna pay off all the money they expect to make off this release in getting the rights for just one game, especially when they probably don't intend to spend much money making it happen to begin with.

@brainderailment

remade by the same voice cast.... does not compute?

"We didn't include MGS1 because it's already easily available on the PSN whereas 2 & 3 are not, thus leaving room for us to make even more money on this cash grab than if we were to put them all on there."

That's what I read anyhow.

Well, fuck him, too. Who gives a shit about polygonal count? Just sharpen it up with a higher resolution and put it in the collection so we cave all 3 games in one place.

At the end of the day, MGS3 and MGS2 still look like PS2 games. Mario still looks like Mario, Sonic still looks like Sonic, and Snake still looks like Snake. People still play and enjoy those games because they have fun. MGS1 is a FUN game and should be in the goddamn collection. Same with Silent Hill 1.

Hell, I was just trying out both games on the PC and with the higher resolution, they look great. Just make them so that they aren't a blurry mess on our big TVs and its all good. But no... You can't do that, can you? Because the real problem here is the fact that you are still making money off both those games on PSN and your future cross platform Xperia Play/ Android bullshit.

The only HD collection of Konami's that I'm getting is Zone of the Enders. I don't want to hear dumb excuses about why obvious games aren't included, like Twin Snakes, Silent Hill 1 and Silent Hill 4.

Hell, Ninja Gaiden on Xbox had all 3 NES games on it, and it wasn't even a damn collection.

I think I would love a reimagining of MGS, as long as it was true to the spirit of Snake's character (which TS wasn't). Afer Capcom showed the gaming world how to do a remake with Resident Evil, I was so disappointed that Konami didn't take the opportunity to tell the same story differently. I'm trepidatious because of what they'd have to do for voice work. I imagine they can't use TS's, so can they get the voice actors together again?

Frankly, I was very disappointed with Twin Snake's changes. The voice actors banded together to redo all of the audio, only for the cutscene director to turn a character you relate to into an over the top characature just as ridiculous as the enemies you're facing. The player connection in the original was so strong because Snake, despite being a super soldier, acted within the realm of believability; you could project yourself as the protagonist surrounded by literal monsters, and you have to defeat them through only determination and hardwork. When Snake can dodge missles and flip across doorways without being heard, there's no connection, and hence no sense of accomplishment when your super hero defeats the super villain.

I'd actually much rather they didn't devote the resources to it if they can't make something they're proud of.

If someone really wants to play it, a used PS1 and copy of the game isn't exactly going to break the bank.

Alternatively, they could port it to every system on the planet, some several times over, with only very minimal tweaks each time. Because we all love what that has done for the Final Fantasy series, right?

Now before a MGS1 remake happens again we need damn remakes of Metal Gear 1 and 2.

The MSX games, those are vital to the story yet have been played the least.

"we didn't want the xbox version to be too many discs"
that woulda been my excuse.

Personally, I think it is total bullshit. If cleaning up the edges would still made it look ugly, what about doing what Nintendo did for Ocarina of Time and cleaning it up like that, touching it up in that sense?

I have the game on my PS3 as a downloaded PS1 game anyway because I can play games with or without the totally amazing graphics of this generation's games, but for them to back out because the graphics won't be fancy High Definition and people might get butt hurt about that really is irritating.

Oh and Twin Snakes was a Gamecube exclusive, so I'm sure there's some rights business to that.

I don't buy it. They're probably going to release it along with twin snakes later.

And they'll use the argument that "the gamers asked for it anyway, after we said it wouldn't be possible".

It's all mkt strategy!

@Paola - those deserve a remake, hands down. Finally bridging Big Boss to Solid Snake. Considering what MGS4 retconned for the people behind the scenes, I'm not sure I'd appreciate how it would turn out, though.