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[Editor's note: EarthbounderNess shows us how Mother 3 could have potentially ended. -- CTZ]

-- WARNING: This post contains major spoilers for Mother 3. If you have not completed the game, I advise taking a stoll elsewhere until you do finish it. By "elsewhere", I mean go play the game right now. Seriously, if you haven't beaten the game, go away. I'll punch a puppy while impersonating Chad Concelmo if those who have not beat the game do not leave this very instant.

This post will also contains my opinions on the particular subject. I do not claim to be correct in any way, shape or form. --

Those of us who have beaten the Mother 3 have fully experienced the sorrow filled moments during the final confrontation at the location of the seventh needle. The one on one showdown between Lucas and the Masked Man, Claus, his own brother, was just a step short of tearing the players heart out of their chest. From Hinawa's pleading to the bastardization of the Love Theme becoming pure throughout the fight, every moment in the game had hit exactly where it needed to.

But, what if Hinawa's words never reached Claus? What if Claus had no semblance of humanity left in him to bring out? What if Lucas never had the option to simply take the hits and hope Claus came to his senses and instead, had to completely destroy the Masked Man without holding anything back, without any hope of his brother being saved?

Strangely enough, Shigesato Itoi may have originally planned for the end of the game to make those "What ifs" a reality. 



What you see are Masked Man sprites found within the unused game data. Now obviously with something like unused data it's anyone's guess as to what the data was intended for, but obviously this time around, we're going off of what I think.

First off, take note that the animation is not in the order of things happening, but just a compilation of the unused Masked Man sprites. The first animation sequence is the longest, being the downfall and explosion. The second is the short animation of what looks like the M.M. being suspended in air. The last sequence isn't even an animation, but a display of the M.M. being operated on by machinery.

The popular idea (and the one I agree with) of what the Masked Man sprites were intended for is simply more displays of Claus having become inhuman, but having lost his humanity further than what was displayed in the game. My personal take on each of the sequences is:

-Sequence One: The death of the Masked Man without removal of his helmet.
-Sequence Two: The beginning imagery of Lucas' nightmare. I'll go into detail on this soon.
-Sequence Three: Exactly what it looks like, the inner mechanics of the Masked Man being operated on.

With sequence one, the death of the Masked Man while still having his helmet on is a huge deal, as it touches on what I'd spoken of with the "what ifs". The removal of the helmet, revealing Claus, was to display that Claus had been reached by Hinawa's words and Lucas' determination. Claus dying without having been "saved", would have destroyed Lucas emotionally.

Lucas having been crushed by the inability to save his brother in any way would then lead into what is referred to (by many people speculating on the issue) as Lucas' Nightmare. This degenerative state of Lucas' mind is what also is believed to be the actual final battle, after the Masked Man. I believe that sequence two of the unused Masked Man animation is a deathly looking Claus haunting Lucas right before this:

Credits go to MoupiMoupi and yurugu3 from youtube for the video

Those of you who played through Mother 2/Earthbound will recall the battle with Ness' Nightmare, the Mani Mani Statue. After seeing what's believed to be Lucas' Nightmare, it's my conclusion that Ness had it good by comparison.

The question remains though, what manifested into Lucas' Nightmare? Some say that it's the dragon that awakes after the final needle is pulled testing Lucas. Others say that it's Giygas attempting to re-enter the world through the horrifying state of mind that Lucas is in. I like to go along with the simplest of explanations.

Lucas just goes batshit, plain and simple.

After having gone through so much in his life, losing his mother and his brother, his father leaving him on multiple occasions, seeing the town he grew up in become corrupted by an extreme evil and then finding out that his dead brother had been transformed into nothing more than a puppet ... I'd say that's plenty of damage to the poor boy's psyche.

In the first part of the video, you see two odd images distorted. The first being a silver robot-like figure with his left eye covered by some sort of device (looks similar to a scouter), leading us to believe that it's Claus. More specifically, it's a hybrid of Claus' emotions and the Masked Man's inner appearance, as the robot does not look threatening, yet it still holds the features of the Masked Man. The second image is that of a golden angel-like figure, showing Lucas' wish for Claus in the after-life, hoping he can attain peace in death as an angel after his suffering in life as a demon.


The said robot and angel-like figures, undistorted


After the first two forms, Lucas' Nightmare takes a trip through Claus' life before he was used as Porky's toy. We see Lucas, then Claus clothed, naked and gray. Lucas saw himself and then Claus, his own twin remembering their bond as they grew up, then at the time of their birth (naked) and finally the horrid machine Claus became.


The last phase of Lucas' Nightmare is by far the most disturbing and also the reason that many people believe that it was Giygas attempting to re-form/re-enter the world. A ghastly image of Claus slowly becomes a red outline and shortly after that morphs into a screaming mass of red. The thought of it being Giygas comes from the distortion and the red. Other than that though, it's completely baseless since he was annihilated completely by Ness and crew. This phase is Lucas coming to the slow realization of what he's done to his own brother, little by little the weight of his actions pushing upon him are what causes the slow warping of Claus' image.

What comes after the battle is more than likely one of two outcomes. The first outcome being Lucas overcomes the guilt and hurt of having just taken the life of the brother he was unable to save and goes on to pull the needle and awake the dragon. The second outcome is that Lucas is so overburdened by his own mind that he's unable to perform a single action, leaving the game with a bleak and desolate end with the world remaining brainwashed in New Pork City and the final needle left to sit there for eternity.

I can't quote Itoi directly on why Lucas' Nightmare was removed from the game, but I do recall it having to do with him wanting to focus on the theme of love as opposed to Earthbound's focus on the bizarre and twisted. It also had something to do with being geared toward a younger audience as well.

So there you have it folks, my lengthy, more than likely overly-complex take on the missing Claus content and Lucas' Nightmare. There is more content that was removed that was left in the data, but those things I'll save for another day.

I leave you all with Duster being a badass.


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geekjutsu's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/05/2008 12:36
geekjutsu
I thought the ending to Mother 3 was very abrupt and a tad anticlimactic. Maybe the removal of this content was why.
Interesting write up.
Also, more Duster being badass:
4knuckleshuffle's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/05/2008 15:23
4knuckleshuffle
Very nice. I really need to finish this game.

:D
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/05/2008 16:44
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask
Heh, I did a post about this back when I first joined, but it wasn't nearly as well thought out as this one was. Excellent work!

Did you ever see the sprite sheet of the alternate ending to the Porky boss fight? I'm trying to desperately to find it, as my link to it has expired. It basically shows an alternate ending where the Ultimate Safe Capsule does not come into play, and the class on Porky's mech breaks, killing him.
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/05/2008 16:50
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask
Found it it partially: It's not the complete sheet, but it's the crucial animation:
EarthbounderNess's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/05/2008 19:16
EarthbounderNess
@SWPM

Thank you! And also, I was initially going to talk about the Pokey death animation and Kumatora's Magypsie outfit but decided to just focus on Claus' stuff for the time being.

I only had the sprite sheet of Porky's death too, so seeing it fully animated is actually pretty sweet.
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/05/2008 22:12
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask
@ness
Heh we sort of fill each others gaps there ;)

Also, you probably already know this, but there's also one of Duster in a Magypsie outfit to the PSI Teleport esque fall out of the sky. I'll try and find it as well!
EarthbounderNess's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/05/2008 22:50
EarthbounderNess
@SWPM

I actually had no idea that Duster had a Magypsie outfit, if you do find it please do show!
Pacopaco's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 15:21
Pacopaco
That girl has freakishly short thighs.
anchorman84's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 16:29
anchorman84
excellent stuff man. I actually really liked the ending of the game, very refreshing (in comparison to more conventional videogame endings). I've always been a sucker for open ended/ open interpretation endings. But reading of all these other possibilities has piqued my interest. I wonder what exactly Itoi initially had in mind.
Peronthious's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 16:45
Peronthious
...wow. Itoi's mind continues to boggle mine.
NotPigeon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 16:45
NotPigeon
Just wanted to say that the massive spoilers have ended up on the front page. Fortunately, I've already played the game, but I suppose I just expect that sort of thing to be behind the jump.
I might actually say something relevant to the article, but I have to read it first.
NotPigeon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 16:50
NotPigeon
Okay, I've actually read it now.
All I have to say is that I wish the Lucas' Nightmare stuff had made it into the final game. It's just so freaky, and I've always kind of liked how EarthBound went into straight-out nightmare fuel during the last phase.
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 17:05
eternalplayer2345
I knew it! The ending just seemed so wrong to me. I think the ending here would have been SO much better in everyway possible.
Vyruz's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 17:16
Vyruz
This is Hal at it's finest again (maker of Kirby and Mother), all their games seem so childish from the start but when you get to the final phase their games get all twisted.
That's what I like about their games.
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 17:28
Scary Womanizing Pig Mask
Found them!



My memory failed me, as it was just the sparkle leap, no Magypsie make-up. This and the Kumatora Magypsie (which looks a lot like her waitress disguise) seem to point towards PSI Teleport being included at first, which was probably scrapped due to the lack of a need. All speculation though.

Also, in a couple of the shots of the cut battle, a mole cricket stands in front of the background as a stock enemy. Perhaps it may have also been intended as a background for the final fight? The symbolism could fit: The robot showing Claus as he is now, and the angel showing the true Claus Lucas know is in there, and that Hinawa is trying to reach. Normal Lucas and Claus, and then Naked Claus could be Claus beginning to regain himself, and then the Metal Claus as he slinks back into being Porky's robot.

The last image of the tortured face of Claus could be his own horror, instead of his brother's as he realizes what he has done, and what he has become, and leaves in the only way possible, by killing himself.

It's pure conjecture, and yours seems more solid ;) But it's fun to speculate.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 17:56
Y0j1mb0
Congrats on the front page promotion Earth. Well deserved my friend.
kadosho's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 18:48
kadosho
Always wondered if there was a "What If?" ending to this series.
Feels good to know that this "alternate ending" could happen.
I just wished we'd see Mother IV (if it was a possibility)
The GHost's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 18:53
The GHost
Dear SWPM and Earthbounderness,

I love you.

- The GHost

For reals, that's an awesome and interesting dissection of another amazing ending to what became one of my all time favorite games the instant I finished it. Bravo!
Banana Kid's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 18:58
Banana Kid
The Masked Man's "hovering" animation doesn't look like hovering to me--his right arm is extended and curved, almost like he's leaning on someone.

Who knows what that one actually was. The third image probably was meant for a flashback showing his creation after Claus's fall/death, but that second image is a mystery.
topgeargorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 19:02
topgeargorilla
Why is there so much Duster, uh, rule 34? Duster is great, he's the coolest, but, um, wow.

Also, I think any of the other characters should have been in Smash than Lucas. Lucas is cool, but Flint or Duster woulda been better.
Exquisitor's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 20:44
Exquisitor
I stopped playing it during act 2. I don't know why but I found him to be an absolutely unlikable character. I got frustrated because whenever more than two enemies attacked him I would die a painful miserable death.
NotPigeon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 21:05
NotPigeon
Exquisitor-
I had that kind of trouble at first, but it's actually fairly easy once you figure it out. The short version: You have Thief Tools for a reason.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 21:56
Monodi
i fucking love this game. Great article, stuff liek this has been deeply analyzed in Starmen.Net before but you are making a lot of good points and making them more public as well. I salute you bud.

Oh and I have seen the unused magic Kumatora sprites before. Just havent found it yet.

Funilly, int he way I found some of a young Kumatora on a thick sweater she almost looks like some purple IceClimber.

Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 22:00
Monodi
PS: Who made the fanart? It looks fucking great
Nameless Monster's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 22:17
Nameless Monster
While I really enjoyed your hypothesis on the removed things, maybe we are all wrong and that stuff wouldn't have been in the final battle. Maybe it was supposed to be a fight on the island where you get high on mushroom. Maybe the robot/angel looking like Claus are only replica robots made by the Pig Mask, a lot like the Mini Porky.

Well, who knows?

Anyway: Duster in Smash Bros.? OH YEAH!

Duster X Kumatora? Best. Couple. Ever.

Also: More Duster being badass.



Nameless Monster's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 22:20
Nameless Monster
Damn... Broken links... somebody can tell me how to upload images from my browser in my post? (I'm such a newb, sorry :( )
EarthbounderNess's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 22:23
EarthbounderNess
@Nameless Monster

That's actually a possibility that the battle could have been an accumulation of all the party members' nightmares after becoming disoriented from the mushrooms. I say that because the removed music that goes along with it, when messed around with in pitch, you can hear "1, 2, 3, 5!" which can also be heard in a DCMC song, possibly correlating to something within Duster's mind.
The Scientist's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2008 23:23
The Scientist
I'm pretty sure this shouldn't have been promoted to front page for reasons of spoilers. The spoilers are nice and hidden in the community blogs, while you give them more space for front page. My eyes happened to glance on a little morsel of information that currently has me infuriated.
Nameless Monster's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 00:53
Nameless Monster
Well, the game's English translation have been out for a while now, and starmen.net is now down with spoilers, so I guess it's ok if we are less careful in hiding our spoilers...

Beside, it's nice to have an EarthBound related front page article! The Mother series DESERVE more representation in the gaming community!
jackal27's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 03:42
jackal27
DAMMIT!! Now I'm going to have go finish the game so I can read this article.
jackal27's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 04:02
jackal27
DAMMIT!! Now I'm going to have go finish the game so I can read this article.
kevinski's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 04:08
kevinski
Maybe it's because it's only five in the morning or something, but that animated GIF kinda resembled a tentacle rape scene to me in the last frame. o_O
Superfluous Moniker's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 09:37
Superfluous Moniker
Monodi's pics of Kumatora in the winter clothes kinda remind me of Paula from the original Mother (on NES) who wore a similar outfit.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 10:30
Jonathan Holmes
Awesome! I'm so glad Mother 3 is getting all this attention. I'm really hoping the game gets a formal release in the states, maybe as DSWare or something.
PK Starstorm's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2008 23:07
PK Starstorm
For some strange reason after reading this I know I have to play Mother 3 again. I just can't get enough of this game.
Nameless Monster's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/09/2008 05:37
Nameless Monster
Just for the sake of being nit-picky : I think you mean ANA, Moniker!
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