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Opinion: Why people who whine about review scores are wankers photo

Nobody likes being disagreed with, and nobody enjoys having something that they like besmirched. However, when it comes to differences of opinion, there is a marked difference between debating the issue and becoming a stupid, whiny crybaby.

Ever since Jeff Gerstmann was fired from GameSpot for his unforgiving review of Kane & Lynch: Dead Men, the subject of honesty and integrity in games media has been a hot button. People were at GameSpot's door with torches and pitchforks, demanding answers and screaming about the broken trust between reviewer and gamer. From the outpouring of support for Gerstmann, one could easily imagine that gamers wanted their reviewers to be frank and open about their opinions, to be able to express themselves without reprisal and share with you their personal thoughts about the videogames they have played.

If you believed that, you were wrong. It seems that gamers don't want honesty at all. They read only what pleases them, and blindly attack anything that contradicts their blinkered views. In truth, there is no difference between them and the game publishers who pull an advertising deal over one bad review. 

There's a stink of corruption coming from the world of games media, and for once it's not coming from the writers. It's coming from the readers. 

Destructoid is a Web site that prides itself on brutally honest review scores, and while it has to be said that a fair few of our readers respect that commitment to integrity, all over the Internet I read complaint after dismaying complaint attacking us for our work. It should come as no surprise that two of our most recent reviews -- Patapon and Condemned 2 -- have proven the inspiration for this article, as the "controversies" surrounding both have reached nigh unprecedented levels of stupidity. Let me tell you a little bit about them.

In the case of Condemned 2, my colleague Reverend Anthony was, shall we say, merciless in his scathing opinions. He wrote an excellent review which very clearly explained his perception of the game and discussed everything he felt was wrong about the title. He rated it a 3, a score which perfectly reflected his writing. He was attacked for it.

Almost exclusively on the basis of the score, his review was called "bad" by people who hadn't even played the game. There were those who accused Anthony of pretending he hated the game for hits, which is about the most ludicrous assumption I ever heard. Nobody who disliked the opinion could seem to grasp the idea that Anthony just didn't like Condemned 2 and rated it accordingly. They had to accuse him of ulterior agendas, they had to insult his ability as a writer, they had to failingly attempt to discredit the entire Web site -- anything to escape dealing with the fact that one man wrote something bad about a videogame they liked.

Patapon was perhaps even more ridiculous, a review which caused outrage even though it gave the game an above average score. The reaction from some of the Dtoid members was laughable enough, but outside of the site, a few of the comments were even worse. There were people who were legitimately stunned by the review, unable to comprehend a difference of opinion, and those who suggested the game needed a higher rating purely because it was "innovative" and that anybody who would dare give Patapon an above average score now "hated innovation."

The Patapon "controversy" pretty much highlights the hypocrisy of the gaming community. People poke fun at IGN and its ilk for sticking to the "seven point scale," where they don't rate a game truly from 1 - 10. Seven is considered "terrible" and eight to nine is "good." People mock this scale and the silly amount of high scores it produces, yet when Destructoid introduces and uses a true ten point scale, where ten is near perfect and one is truly terrible, we are instantly shat upon. On a true ten point scale, Patapon's 6.5 marks it out as above average -- good, but flawed. That's exactly what Patapon is, a good but flawed game. 

But hypocritical gamers contest it because it opposes their personal opinion of the game, and this threatens their frail egos. The lesson we have learned here is that it's great to have a ten point scale, unless it contradicts your own petty little view of a game. If you have ever mocked the "seven to ten" scale and had a problem with our reviews, you're a lying bastard. End of.

It's simply astounding, the depths of idiocy some people will sink to in order to complain about a review. I actually read someone complaining that Super Smash Brothers got a 9.5 instead of a 10 in Edge magazine. This was also before the game was released. Let that sink in for a moment -- someone complained because a game they hadn't played yet was deemed NEARLY perfect instead of COMPLETELY perfect. Since when did the games industry become an episode of that Sweet Sixteen show? Must so many gamers really act like spoiled brats? 

It's become almost epidemic, ever since people went insane because GameSpot (ironic) gave Twilight Princess an 8.9 instead of a 9.0. It seems you can't review a high profile game honestly without incurring the wrath of a lynch mob of angry geeks. Of course, these are the same pricks who threw a tantrum over Aaron giving Halo 3 an 8.5 -- why am I still surprised at their imbecility?  

When I read people whining about review scores, I see a bunch of excuse makers. They cannot handle the idea that someone could hate a game that they enjoy, so they make up reasons as to why the game scored below their expectations -- the reviewer sucks at the game, the reviewer is after hits (which they ironically provide anyway with their crying), the reviewer doesn't matter so hey, let's ignore it (which again, they ironically do not do). In truth, there's no difference between these butthurt readers and the Julian Eggebrechts making excuses for Lair, or the Jeff Minters pulling a hissy fit because Space Giraffe didn't sell.

And maybe I'm "whining" too, but that's fine because I'm a gamer and that's apparently what we do now. However, when I see such blatant hypocrisy, it makes me really disappointed in our "culture." When I see someone demanding a higher score for a game, that's someone essentially begging to be lied to. They WANT everyone to be like CNET, just pleasing whomever they can in lieu of providing honest commentary. Seriously, do you want to be lied to? With some of you, it sounds like this is the case.

If you want honesty in your games media, then prepare to hear some things you don't like. And if you don't like them, that's fine. Nobody is asking you to enjoy our opinions -- what we ask for, and we once tried politely, is for you to be constructive in your disagreement, and to take the opinions of reviewers as simply that -- opinions. Don't quibble over the difference between a 0.5 point discrepancy, that's retarded. Don't make excuses for a bad review, that's pathetic. Just explain why YOU enjoyed the game, and be happy that you DO enjoy it. Is that really so hard? Must you resort to telling us how "furious" you are? Why are you furious? What was actually so enraging about a gamer's opinion being different from yours?

Obviously, the group of people (and this isn't aimed at everyone) I address in this article is made up of mewling spastics, so let me make it very clear -- it is fine if you don't like a review, just stop being fucking RETARDED about it

I don't know how much more plain I can make it. The point is, people are different, we have to accept that. I never much agreed with Nex's review of Call of Duty 4, myself. I think he'd given the online perk system more heat than it was due, and I informed him of this -- intelligently and with some class and respect. What I didn't do was say he was a crap writer and demand a "better" reviewer who would "give it a higher score." I didn't hurl stupid accusations, like the person who implied Nex's review had negative points in it because he was a "Halo fanboy," which is hilarious in its own right. Sometimes I think a game gets more praise than it deserves, sometimes I think a game is unfairly rated -- what can ya do? Get personally offended? Are you that sensitive?

So there you go. If you actually want some honesty, then actually learn what a review is -- it's someone's opinion of a videogame. Stop treating it like its your sole emotional crutch and stop getting so angry, as if you've been insulted personally. Decide what you actually want from your games media -- you either want a real ten point scale where all the numbers are used, or you want everything to score an eight. You either want to hear what someone really thinks about a title, or you want to be lied to. Either you want Jeff Gerstmann, or you want CNET.

I'm almost on CNET's side sometimes, when I think about the way some of you react to real honesty. Considering the stupid bullshit we've had to read regarding real videogame reviews, accepting cash for a glowing appraisal suddenly doesn't seem so bad.

So, if you were one of the bitches who acted like morons over Condemned 2, Patapon or anything else, don't ever complain if you one day see us accepting a check from EIDOS.

You waived the moral high ground on that one.


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Cyberxion's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:07
Cyberxion
Yeah Jim, I get where you're coming from and agree. Certain responses to the Patapon review were particularly mind-numbing in their idiocy. That said, while you're at it could you address those assholes who ruin the hobby for everyone around them by sniping one another's consoles of choice?

Oh, differing opinions are fine, and if X person doesn't like whatever the hell console that I do I couldn't give two shits about it. However, when people resort to heavy handed rhetoric and words like "XBots" or "Nintendrones" to make some sort of point about how much the console they didn't buy sucks, I begin to wish they'd take a rusty shiv to the temple so that the world would be rid of their particular brand of idiocy.

What are your thoughts on the matter?
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:10
Gen Eric Gui
I'm still bitter about that Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn review, and nothing you say will change that!

But in all honesty, while I often don't entirely agree with reviews made on this site(or any other for that matter), I still respect the opinion of the writer. If I'm allowed to spew hatred about every Final Fantasy game that comes out, you've got every right to tell me Fire Emblem sucks.

In essence, good job Jim. I totally agree.

And I also have to wonder why the site is so obsessed with getting that Metacritic spot if every single writer for the site hates the numbers so much. Just ditch them; screw Metacritic.
big filth's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:11
big filth
yeah, how dare the people who are not part of the d toid staff express YOUR opinion if it is different from theirs.

ridiculous.

also, I swear I love the people on this site but all the sycophants almost make it hard to take. Im sure I could have just ignored this post, but if jim writes something like this, I usually want to check it out and be a part of it. The problem is, Jim it seems like your as fanatic at protecting the rev as some of these yes man are in following you.

fuck you Jim Sterling! jk, I love you, but I dont have to agree with every word you say. or do I??

< 3
niakori's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:12
niakori
How can I respect a site that never reviewed Miami Nights: Singles in the City!!!
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:12
Usedtabe
Hmm. I didn't care for Rev's review of Condemned becuase he tried to tell me that all I wanted to do was fight bums, while in reality myself and many others actually enjoy the atmosphere and story of the game. But I guess I'm just retarded for not appreciating being told what I like about a game.
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:13
michiyoyoshiku
If the review is ignorant and obviously shows the reviewer didn't play the game (like 99% of all reviews) then we have every right to complain.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:15
Jim Sterling
Ah, and the people who missed the point are starting to appear.

Re-read the article. It's not about disagreeing with the review, it's about being an idiot in doing so. Disagreeing is fine, being a stupid fucking cock is not.

S'pretty straightforward.
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:15
aborto thefetus
I agree with what Snaileb says. The problem doesn't lie in the review, it lies in the stupid ratings. I think all ratings need to be done away with. A review just needs to be someone's opinion, it doesn't need a damn letter to sum up what was said.

And with the condemned review, the more I think about it the more it pisses me off. Unlike other people I realize that it's Rev's opinion and I can see where he is coming from. But from the stuff he sited in his review I don't see how he can justify a 3/10. If he didn't even give away a rating none of that flaming would have happened.

In conclusion, people are stupid. If we got rid of the scores and just had the reviews they would have less to complain about.
burglarize's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:16
burglarize
It's true. This message will silence about 3 people that maybe would've complained before, and will probably do nothing to affect the average fucking IDIOT who doesn't understand the concept of opinions.

But good on you for writing it. I could tell from your comments on all the recent reviews that you were getting increasingly irritated. VENT BOY! VENT!

It probably has something to do with the fact that these people have the game preordered and have hyped it up to much for themselves. I no longer hype anything up anymore, as I realised it just left me disappointed in my purchases. I dreaded Halo 3, and because of that, it actually seemed alright. Anyway, finding out that a game you've paid for not only with money, but with blood, sweat and tears on some forum hunting for the latest screenshots is rubbish, is probably quite shattering for the ego.

THAT, and the internet is full of tards.
tgammet's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:17
tgammet
Why on earth does it bug you so much that a few people had a problem with your harsh critique? You spent like half a podcast going on and on about it and now we get a thesis? Taking the internet hate machine way too seriously.

You have an opinion. I have an opinion. These things don't always match up. The end, review another game please.
WalrusMeat's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:20
WalrusMeat
I just created an account because of this article - which was great by the way - I think that being uncompromising and honest about the quality of games is the only way we will ever see real improvements. Rampant fanboyism allows developers to just churn out the same uninspired garbage over and over. We have to expect more from games if we want games that truly deserve scores of 9-10. Kudos to you and yours.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:23
Jim Sterling
"You have an opinion. I have an opinion. These things don't always match up. The end"

Yeah ... that was the entire point of the article.

Again, I reeeeally want it stressed that we at Dtoid in no way want you guys to all agree with us. I've displayed enough times that I fucking love a good debate, and when someone engages me with some intelligence and class, I respond in kind and we have a thoroughly good argument.

There's a difference between "I disagree, here's why" and "ZOMG U H8 INNOVATION U SUCK U BAD RITER!"
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:23
MaxVest
Soon we will see a series of cblogs that say "Opinion: Why people who whine about people who whine about review scores are wankers," with each subsequent reactionary blog inserting another "who whine about people," until the internet explodes.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:23
Y0j1mb0
Great Read. Glad to see this piece up on the front page. My views on this are a mirror image of yours.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:23
BluDesign
There's been plenty of games I was psyched over only to see bad reviews on the actual game itself. A bad review doesn't necessarily taint my mindset of the game, but it certainly does reevaluate my need for a game.

As such, I see no issue with games being given harsher reviews than the average. I think Rev Ant's old review on Twilight Princess was a good baseline for us to not expect 7 out of 10's from him on a regular basis. I certainly took issue with the review at the time, but now that I know that Rev will roll a review to a 5 where IGN rates a 7, it may affect it's overall metacritic score, but it's just a scoring system. I'm used to it.
harrmonica's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:25
harrmonica
meh..whining about people whining about people whining...you are never going to make everybody happy. i think people should feel free to gripe about a review if they don't agree with it and once its off their chest drop it-its just a game. having said that, i'm still waiting for all those folks to come out of the woodwork and agree that this game is utter rubbish as befits a score of 3. on the flipside, people complain about your harsh reviews, however i felt you were generous with halo 3's 8.5 score.
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:27
aborto thefetus
Jim, insulting people in the comments isn't going to help. As representatives of a website I think it's best that you just ignore stupid comments. Lowering yourself to their level isn't going to help. People are always going to disagree with what a writer says, calling them fucking cocks isn't going to change that.
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:28
Usedtabe
@Aborto: That's actually something that Kotaku has started to do. Just a written review, with no final score. Only a summarization of "likes" and "dislikes".
burglarize's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:29
burglarize
Here's an idea. Instead of suggesting people click on the review manifesto (which they'll probably never do), how about you put the score summary next to the score.

For example:
3/10 - Bad. Some aspects are terrible, others are either so-so or kind of fun.


Just an idea. I think most of the complainers just think that anything with a score below 5 has absolutely no good gameplay at all.
The Young Scot's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:30
The Young Scot
When I see a review I don't agree with, I just say to myself "Oh well, that's JUST THEIR OPINION".

I personally like the idea of gamers having different tastes, makes for a more diverse industry (well, in theory).

But then again, some games are just plain shit.
Stratus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:34
Stratus
Stay the course Jim, lets hope the asshats that complain like you piss in their tea will shut the fuck up after reading this(yes and maybe Nintendo will stop ass raping PAL regions).

Personally I love both Rev and your reviews as they mirror my own views. Patapon was a game I wanted, oh so dearly, to love but couldn't get over the fact that it was "press 4, wait 4, press 4, wait 4". If thats innovation, then call me Old-fag McSamecrap, cause I'll get more enjoyment outta Halo.
BlackDove's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:38
BlackDove
Blah blah blah, who cares.

People don't like your reviews. Big fucking deal. Enjoy the hits the site gets.

When the whole review scale issue happened, you took away the numbers for a week or two, but then brought them back. Kotaku got rid of them, and didn't bring them back. They're enjoying the benefits. You're whining.

Someone made the right call.
big filth's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:39
big filth
that review sucked because it was based on an assumption.

its that simple.
big filth's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:41
big filth
Jim Sterling = Wanker
Rpg_Worshiper's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:42
Rpg_Worshiper
I genuinely care about review scores and I accept them as another gamers' opinion. The thing is, the people who write reviews for Destructoid, EGM/1UP, OXM etc. are people who play games for a living. If anyone's opinion on a game should matter, it should be that of a person who makes their living off of playing video games.

It's pretty astonishing how blatantly stupid people can be. Some of it, I'm sure, goes back to kids thinking they can say whatever they want on the internet because they've suddenly grown balls the size of cantaloupes.

But honestly, if you think about it, game reviews are essential to gamers. I would have bought Assassin's Creed if the average score from Destructoid, 1UP, PSM, OXM, GameSpot, IGN and others had been a bit higher. Thank God I chose not to though, because when my friend picked up the game, I saw every flaw spoken of in the reviews and I really had no desire to play the game.

Anyways, that is why reviews are important. We are spending our hard-earned cash on these games and we need to have a professional opinion.

Oh and for writing this piece, more power to you Jim. You know as well as we all do that some of the morons you described are the same people reading this. Good for you.
The Young Scot's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:44
The Young Scot
@big filth

Well, I like wanking, so I gets that makes him ok in my book.
fyre's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:45
fyre
I give this article an 8.364 out of 10.
animateria's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:45
animateria
Damn people only look at numbers and not the actual text.

READ the reviews people, READ!

Anyways its the 'internets'. A lot of idiots think their posts are valid even when its bat-shit retarded.

Just fuck em. They aren't gonna change, and you shouldn't change for em.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:45
Snaileb
So.. when people are being pricks over a review, I can understand that it can be annoying, hence this post of vented frustration. But when the reviewer is being an prick about the review that's sure to be a different opinion than that of the readers, then we as readers are annoyed and of course you're going to hear about it.

So more reviews like that, end up to comments like those, which lead to posts like this. Don't continue the vicious cycle of retarded Jim.
Bioautographical's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:50
Bioautographical
Good critcism: "Sorry, Jim, but I don't agree with you review at all. I thought X was actually good because of Y and Z, and that A was actually the win because of B and C."

Bad criticism: "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS WANK YOU'RE SHIT JIM DO YOU HEAR ME FUCK YOU!"

I honestly don't think it's a hard concept. Now, I AM usually one for simply ignoring trolls mostly because it denies them exactly what they want, which are responses that make them think their opinions are actually worth something. Also, attention. BUT - not everyone is a straight up troll, I've seen some decent, regular posters who just seem to be missing the point lately myself.

And call me petty, but while I'm not particularly stuck on numerical scores one way or the other, I'd be loathe to get rid of them simply for the idea that it caves to the "my opinion is sacred" faction. It's kind of like kids' soccer teams who convert to a no-scoring policy because there are some kids who suck at the sport and whine because they can't win. Why level the playing field because some people are fuckasses?
big filth's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:51
big filth
@ The Young Scot

I like wanking too!
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:52
Jim Sterling
"I give this article an 8.364 out of 10."

Should have been an 8.365 I HOPE YOU GET FIRED OH MY WORD R2-D2 YOU SHOULD BE SCRAP IRON!
yingfo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:57
yingfo
Thank you Jim, this needed to be written and I think it should be posted around the gaming community for everyone to read.
Threepwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 08:58
Threepwood
While the stink of corruption may not touch Destructoid, the stink of arrogance sure is heavy around here lately
Polish Hill's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:00
Polish Hill
I just wish there was an efficient bullshit filter on Destructoid and pretty much any site that can accept comments. I can understand people having different points of view but the way in which people convey those ideas sometimes is astounding. I'm all for an argument but it seems like when it involves games things tend to turn into a shouting match.

I guess its just a way of life. Don't get too jaded Jim, we love you.
The Young Scot's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:00
The Young Scot
@big filth

Then you and I Sir, can be friends
Velt's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:05
Velt
I cant find the "I hate Jim Sterling blog"!!! Really, I want to send a tip!!
vitus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:05
vitus
its to bad the internet is synonymous with the anonymous. its just how people are, they are here to complain... and probably here to stay.
Lord The Night Knight's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:06
Lord The Night Knight
I should add that some reviews are mocked for the text, and not for the scores. Basically, we are attacking the faulty logic of some of them.

Take the Twilight Princess review from Gamespot. The review specifically docked the game for not taking advantage of the Wii's greater power over the Gamecube, even though we'd already known for months that it was a port, and was therefore not going to have more advanced graphics.

It just seemed ridiculous to demand a game push a system that had just launched, and was well known to have pre-launch development kits based on the Gamecube.

Plus he gave the Gamecube version a higher score based solely on the Gamecube having less power, even though he stated the Wii version was the better one.
Silverback 55's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:06
Silverback 55
Jim, this is truly one of the best articles I have read in a while. Good job man.
Fanatism's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:08
Fanatism
IGN-commentors = the most retarded fellows.
- I'd buy it if there was online. (about a jrpg)
awesome.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:10
Tubatic
Well done Jim.

I don't want you to come out to me in a clean pressed suit, and politely ignore my stupid comment. You'd be gamespot then, which doesn't afford its readership anywhere NEAR this sort of interaction or discourse with its writing crew. If the writers and editorial staff didn't reply to comments, stupid or otherwise, in a serious manner or sacractically, we all might as well start paying Destructoid for premium content and sweet videos, close our yaps and take the website at face value.

This interaction is special, and deciding to ignore the people misses the point of a potentiall interactive medium, like games or the internet.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:11
king3vbo
I couldnt agree more. Number scores are fucking stupid. A reviewer should write a review, and the reader should READ IT instead of scrolling to the bottom and looking at a number score. FUCK NUMBER SCORES.
ian_esq's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:14
ian_esq
word
jettoki's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:21
jettoki
I don't think you guys understand how much integrity you have as compared to most review sites and editors. But frankly, if it's your right to bitch about games, then it's my right to bitch about your bitching.
HarassmentPanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:21
HarassmentPanda
I'll be the first to admit that I did not agree with Rev's Condemned 2 score. However, rather than whine about it, I just didn't comment at all. If his post hadn't already turned into a effigy of stupidity, I would have commented that I disagree with him but I thought the review was well reasoned and composed.

As to Patapon, complaining about a 6.5 is staggeringly doltish. A 6.5 on a full 10 point scale is a perfectly equitable score--as you said, "good, but flawed." Not every "innovative" game deserves a 9.5-10 just because it's different, the game needs to be incredibly polished and amusing to receive such marks.

However, I do think that a coterie of the editors here are making too big a deal out of this issue. The Internet is full of dimwits and the relative anonymity that a username provides only compounds the stupidity. It's also important to note that only a small, vocal minority are speaking out against these reviews. How many page views did either of those reviews get? And how many people were vocally "furious" about the scores? I'm sure that for every one lunkhead complaining there were a dozen more readers who either complimented the review or accepted it as a differing opinion and moved on.

Let's put this issue to bed.
Professor Pew's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:26
Professor Pew
Omg, this article is meant to get more traffic lolol!

Seriously though, I think most people are just used to the way games have gotten ratings in the last 5 years. Going to an actual 1-10 scale where a 5 is average doesn't fit into that way of rating games. I notice that when I look at that way of scoring, it takes a little time to adjust to because I'm used to the older system too. Many people just won't take that effort.

I support Rev's method of sticking to what he thinks is logical and honest though. And it's not like he is the only one that thinks a generic game should get a 7 just because it's mildly entertaining. Maybe in 5-10 years, reviews will have adapted to this format, maybe not.

Numbers just make it easy for people to see what they want. They are used to it and it helps them to see a 'summary' without having to take the trouble to read the entire review. Hell, I don't even read 30% of all reviews on gamerankings when I'm looking of a casual Wii game is crap or not: if it gets 50%, I just assume it's shit, not average.

There will always be those that don't want to adapt or take an effort to look at a review for what it is: some guy's opinion that does no material damage to yourself.
AlucardX24's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:30
AlucardX24
I just think Dynasty Warriors 6 should be obliterated from the Earth.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:35
Timmeh
If you don't know how to look at a piece of media with some level of subjectivity and judge it on its own merits, regardless of whether you 'like' the game or not, maybe you should call your 'reviews' 'impressions' instead. The reviews on Dtoid seem to offer a lot of personal opinion which would tend to evoke more reaction than a neutral, unbiased review would anyway.

People get annoyed for many more reasons than 'omg you scored my new favourite game low WTF' - I'd think you would understand that.

And yes, I'm of the opinion that going into a game with its roots in adventure that tries to build horror/suspense and bashing it for not being Halo 3 with hobos is fucking stupid.
Barcode's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2008 09:36
Barcode
It's all about opinion. There is going to be people who agree and there are going to be people who disagree. To be honest, I wouldn't worry about people's comments and just stick to making reviews that are true to the reviewer.

If anything, you can choose to accept the whip of the readers or deny it and say what you feel is most suitable for the game.

Even I was shocked by the Condemned 2 score, but after a little bit, I realized that I was a fan of the first Condemned and I planned on getting Condemned 2 and still am. I didn't want to see a bad review for the game. I simply didn't read the review and decided to just buy the game without people's input.

If anything, you can include two reviews for a game. Have one person who is a fan of the game, and one who isn't. Surely there will be people who are stupid and say "WTF? two dfferent review scores?", but hey, like what people have said on here before, it's the internet. A place where trolls and pussies can spread their hate faster.
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