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Opinion: Resident Racism, or why we can't have nice things photo

When the trailer for Resident Evil 5 was released, it caused quite a stir with its imagery of Chris Redfield, a white man, going to a foreign country to shoot black zombies. Before we had even seen the game in full or known any details on the story, there were those in our society willing to brand it racist, to extrapolate an entire metaphor and mindset behind this game from five minutes of footage.

The majority of us laughed at such ridiculous notions, and didn't see anything wrong with the trailer, but according to N'Gai Croal, as we discussed yesterday, that was the wrong opinion and we need to see the inherent racial undertones in this five minute video.

So once again, this "controversy" has reared its ugly head, as we get to hear a black point of view about this oh-so racist game. Well, this is unconventional, and some would say impossible, but I'm going to throw a white opinion into the ring. I know, I know, white people aren't really allowed to have opinions on racism if you talk to some individuals, but let's throw convention to the wind just this once.

I want to talk about Resident Evil 5, and I am going to.

No matter what side of the fence you are on, it firstly cannot be denied that Capcom is taking a bold step by setting Resident Evil 5 in Africa. Racial sensitivity aside, it is a fresh and new environment, one that we are not used to seeing in videogames at all. The bright sunlight, arid backdrop and cultural uniqueness is something that rarely crops up in a game, and for that I commend Capcom thoroughly. This, however, is the very crux of the reason that I am so upset when it's instantly crucified as being racist.

We complain about "dark" and "gritty" games all time, with their gray urban environments and complete lack of color. Here, we finally have an action game that intends to do something different, and it causes a problem. This game takes us to a mysterious (for many of us) and foreign land, and there are those that feel it should not be allowed. 

The sad thing is, this kind of "controversy" was utterly predictable. While I merely saw a cool game trailer, the very fact that there were naught but black zombies gave me a nagging feeling that we were about to hear some bullshit, and hear it soon. I was not disappointed, as the Black Looks blog soon jumped on this five minutes of game footage to tear it apart as the racist propaganda it so clearly was:

The new Resident Evil video game depicts a white man in what appears to be Africa killing Black people. The Black people are supposed to be zombies and the white man’s job is to destroy them and save humanity…

This is problematic on so many levels, including the depiction of Black people as inhuman savages, the killing of Black people by a white man in military clothing, and the fact that this video game is marketed to children and young adults. Start them young… fearing, hating, and destroying Black people.

The sheer level of presumptuous arrogance found in Kym Platt's blog post was offensive, and racist in its own right. This woman insisted on capitalizing the word "Black" while not giving "white" the same level of reverence, and throws in claims like "supposed to be zombies" as if Capcom's intention was to actually promote the murder of black people. She also seemed to think the game was purely "white man" propaganda, despite the fact it's being developed in Japan. Again, all of this she managed to glean from a five minute trailer.

There is a lot I could say about Kym Platt and the problems I find with her self-serving complaints and insistence on dwelling on long-passed history, but I'll stick with Resident Evil. That Platt was able to dream up this entire racist motivation for Resident Evil 5 is little more than self-parody, evidenced by the fact that I totally predicted something like this would happen before it did. However, Platt is a self-segregated non-gamer with no understanding of Resident Evil. She looks for ways to be racially offended, so we shouldn't be too surprised. 

N'Gai Croal, however, is a different matter.

"Wow, clearly no one black worked on this game," was Croal's gut reaction to the Resident Evil 5 trailer, and frankly I expected better from such a learned gamer. Croal compared the trailer to a game set in 1940's Europe featuring emaciated Jew zombies, as if a modern-day African village was anything that could be directly compared to such a game. As I told N'Gai myself, the leap in logic was utterly astounding, and not something I would expect from him. Like Platt, Croal seemed to pull a lot more from this five minute trailer than most of us:

This is why a game in which a white protagonist will be shooting hundreds of black zombies should be handled with more care than what’s been evidenced by the trailer. Classic racist stereotypes: a silent or unintelligible populace, barely distinguishable features–heck, they’re barely lit–and unmotivated hostility towards the white hero even before they go straight zombie on us. A grab bag of diasporic traditions: Senegalese vocals, Haitian voodoo. And that white guy killing all those black zombies. For you, this apparently adds up to a preview for one cool game. For me, I’m saying to myself, if they’re this careless at best and racist at worst in five minutes of linear content, what’s in store for us in 10 hours of interactive gameplay?

This is taken from the debate Croal and I are currently having in the MTV Multiplayer blog that posted his comments on the trailer. Croal, who himself made sweeping racial generalizations with the "no one black worked on this game" comment, said Capcom handled its representation of Africa "with all of the grace of a dancing elephant."

How ... exactly?

Re-watching the trailer, even looking for the "racist at worst" elements that Croal can see, I cannot really find what is so terrible. Croal talks about the villagers being "silent or unintelligible," but if you look at the trailer, there IS no sound for the first minute. No background noise, no talking, from anybody. They are not being "silent or unintelligible"; in fact, you see two characters clearly having a conversation with each other. You simply don't hear it because you don't hear anything.

He talks about them being barely lit and lacking distinguishable features, and again that is simply untrue, making me wonder how many times Croal watched this video before drawing his conclusions. I can see them all quite clearly, personally. He talks about "unmotivated hostility" towards Chris, and again ... no. Chris walks through the village quite undisturbed, as the villagers go about their daily business. The only non-zombie hostility seen in the game is a crowd of black villagers throwing stones at ... oh my word ... not Chris Redfield, but another black man who seems to be causing them trouble!

The very fact that Croal provided me with this slew of examples that simply don't exist betrays his own willingness to look for racism that isn't there, to be offended by that which did not set out to offend.  

At the end of the day, this trailer is not racist, nor is it particularly ignorant. Chris Redfield walks through an African village of African villagers doing their daily business, and apparently being involved in some sort of internal conflict, and then they all disappear, before the non-discriminatory virus takes effect. That's all it is. It's really incredibly simple, but there always has to be a group of people willing to make it more complex than it has to be. This is all part of that "one race is sacred above all else" attitude that keeps racism going rather than makes us all equal. 

And this is why we can't have nice things. 

Croal would seem to like Capcom to tip-toe around this issue, because of the "history" behind the images found in the trailer, and coming from a gamer, I find that disappointing. Capcom should not have to restrict what it wants to do just to avoid the risk of upsetting the easily offended, or rambling self-servers like Kym Platt.

Many of us would like to see videogames take a step forward as a legitimate art form, or at least be taken seriously as an avenue for compelling storytelling. If a videogame cannot be set in Africa without causing this kind of faux-controversy, however, we really are taking two steps back for every step forward we take. I have a fearful image of racial activists putting pressure on retailers when this game comes out, doing what they can to boycott the "bigoted" videogame and using bullying tactics and racial blackmail to have their way. Croal talks about retailers not stocking this game, and it could be possible -- though not through any fault of Capcom's, more the fault of an angered "black community" (such a horrible, segregating term) and the retailers who are scared of upsetting them. 

If we can't set a horror game in Africa without this kind of childish over-reaction, then we are nowhere near close to having videogames taken seriously, or to them being brave enough to show us some diversity. What Capcom has done deserves our support, unless we want every single action game to be set in the same old warehouses, with the usual collection of crates and exploding barrels. I'd rather see developers encouraged to take the kind of broad step seen in Resident Evil 5, rather than discouraged.

But then, I'm just a white guy, I guess. What do I know?


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vuffi_raa's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:07
vuffi_raa
people keep saying african- they are haitian yes, not african? If so this is about as racist towards africans as say- bloodrayne or wolfenstien was against germans- the or a dracula film is against romanians'zombie' myths, for anyone that knows anything about them come from haiti, where 'voodoo' priests would drug people to a state of 'near-death' (usually to try to claim their possesions or 'cure them) and when they would return from the dead claim them as 'zombi' or ressurected- often when the people returned they would be brain damaged or worse (from the poisoning and often the lack of oxygen to the brain during the sleep state, if they ever even woke up) providing the glassy eyed stumbling zombie that we all know.... all in all I have never been to haiti- but I don't believe that the population is or ever has been predominantly white so kudos to an accurate game and shutup to the politically correct and obviously near-sighted naysayers
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:08
Tubatic
"it was fellow Africans that captured and sold the slaves to the Dutch that were shipped overseas." quoted for accuracy. The Dutch did their part, some Africans did their part.

Just commenting on that, because it is a little known fact.
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:11
Kryptinite
@loki

I know my history, thanks :). I too am glad we are having discussion but I'm tired of the people who aren't reading and just throwing their two cents in.

@jack
I know there's a lot worse things happening in the real world. I'm not sure were that comment came from but I love you too :).
Schmo0zle's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:11
Schmo0zle
I just love it when black people cry about racism and are merely being racist themselves in doing so.

Al they see here is skin color, which is racist.

We just see a video game.
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:16
Kryptinite
@schmoozle

Sigh...ok, I hate when people over generalize stuff. I think what you mean is this

I just love it when someblack people cry about racism and are merely being racist themselves in doing so.

Every "race" has their section of people who are insane, i.e Tom Cruise.
digitaldemigod's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:18
digitaldemigod
@tubatic

THANK YOU. Everytime I hear about how I am personally responsible for slavery since I'm white, I tell that story. I think a lot of black people also do not know that their own people sold them out. And honestly, yeah slavery sucked. But because of what their ancestors had to go through, they now live in a great country where they don't have to worry about things like what goes on in Darfur or Nigeria.

Also, I originally heard this game was set in Haiti, so I also don't know what the deal is with Africa being mentioned.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:21
Tubatic
@Jim

Maybe you guys should just get into a room and podcast a conversation. Which is to say, blogging lends it self to debating or slamming a point, you're right I'm wrong, I'm responding directly to your opinion type communication, yeah?

Perhaps if you guys had a real live, face to face discussion, you'd understand his point? or at the least, give this two cent commenters that are bringing weary to Kryptinite something new to quote rhetoric from.
kevvo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:23
kevvo
First off, Jim, I respect your writings and think your a helluva writer. I am black male, been playing games all my life. I saw this trailer the first time and my thoughts were "hell yea, a new RE game and the zombies are black awesome." However essentially to a nongamer it will look as if its being racist. They can easily make their case for it just because of the hotbed that is videogame violence and what it brings about in people. (And hell on a side note I know half the people I end up playing COD4 with will love the fact they can shoot blacks, damn racist 13 year olds) But I digress. Its nothing more then the media finding another way to attack videogame violence and make it out to be deplorable. Things were said back when san andreas came out, because of its content, mostly dealing with african americans. Granted, no matter how ignorant you are on a subject, racism is alive and well in this country maybe not the way it was 40-100 years ago, but its still there. And there are people(both white and black) who will use it to their cause, just like GTA was used to fight videogame violence. If you think this is bad just look up the movie tropic thunder and robert downey jr's part in it(me personally as a black man I find it hilarious)

Its going to push buttons, and as long as chris redfield isn't calling them n******, I am cool with it...
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:24
Kryptinite
@digitaldemigod

it was confirmed here. It's a video.

@tubatic
A podcast on this would be fun times :). I wanna do it!


I think I'm done commenting on this post for the day.
GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:25
GuitarAtomik
Can I just point out that it doesn't matter where this takes place whether it be Africa, Haiti, or D.C. because that's not the point. It's about the context of the images and how there isn't any.
xenon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:25
xenon
I completely agree. But this bit:

"Capcom should not have to restrict what it wants to do just to avoid the risk of upsetting the easily offended, or rambling self-servers like Kym Platt."

is exactly the spirit of our hypocritical times about creative works. Of course those who restrict themselves carry part of the blame, but on the other side it's an understandable behaviour when you completely depend on the commercial success of your works. This is one of the reasons why I can not consider video games as art. The need to please (and consequently sell) is inherent and critical to the creative process, while art is first and foremost about freedom and the possibility to be useless and pointless and inaccessible (this doesn't mean art _must_ be all those things). I see videogames close to design: creative yet functional work including artistic elements.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:25
MaxVest
@digitaldemigod: I have never, in any way, been made to feel responsible for slavery or any of the bad stuff that followed. I hear a lot of white people say this, but that just hasn't been my experience. I have absolutely no guilt over slavery and I've never met anyone who wants me to, except for a handful of self-flagellating East coast liberals who love to feel guilty because it gives them purpose in life.

But hey, we've all had different life experiences regardless of color. Maybe I'm just not a very guilt-attuned person.
BigPopaGamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:26
BigPopaGamer
@Kryptinite - I lol'ed at the Tom Cruise comment. Hope you aren't judging all us crazy cracka's by him.

Interesting discussion though. Ultimately, it's useless because the outrage, anger, and sensitivity comes not from anger at a game, but deep-rooted anger in society itself.
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:27
Kryptinite
Ok I lied about not commenting anymore

Interesting discussion though. Ultimately, it's useless because the outrage, anger, and sensitivity comes not from anger at a game, but deep-rooted anger in society itself.

QFE
entrager's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:28
entrager
We complain about "dark" and "gritty" games all time, with their gray urban environments and complete lack of color.

This game certainly doesn't have a "complete lack of color." See what I did there?

In all seriousness (and video games *are* serious business)... WTF? I'm sure this point's been made, but I can't be fucked to read everyone's comments... this is a JAPANESE game, I doubt race ever crossed the minds of the developers. You shouldn't take something developed in one culture and apply your own cultural bias to it, especially when it comes to a strong social issue like this.

Why can't this just be a game about a man shooting zombies, not a *white* man shooting *black* zombies? Someone made the point yesterday that in GTA3: SA you play as a black man and kill hundreds of white people. No one cried racism then, did they? I played that game quite a bit, and not once ever did race cross my mind. The only reason this is an issue of race is because people project their own racist bias onto it.
BigPopaGamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:32
BigPopaGamer
So does that mean I'm racist or you agree with me Kryp? Sorry, I'm not sure.
hoppo254's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:33
hoppo254
I played Crackdown on Xbox 360 as a black character and killed hundreds of Asians,Caucasians etc am i racist ? Please Kym Platt can you tell me how to save my soul ?

Sarcasm detector..... BOOM !
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:34
Tubatic
"Its going to push buttons, and as long as chris redfield isn't calling them n******, I am cool with it..."

@kevvo - I share N'Gai 's observation of a problematic situation . .. but I would also WELCOME this!

I think the big issue is not seeing the Sailboat in the fuzzy picture. If they actually made Chris Redfeild DEAL with the idea that he has racist tendancies? His character would gain depth by MAGNITUDE, just as much as Iron Man being an alcoholic makes him sickly compelling.

THAT would be epic. They go there all the time in R rated movies. Lets start tackling and exploiting the issue with reckless abandon!

Marinate on THAT!!

(don't take me to heart, I'm talking crazy at this point ... or am I?)
SgtBilbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:34
SgtBilbo
Digitaldemigod, you nailed it. The game is set in Haiti. As anyone familiar w/ Haiti knows, its the "birthplace" of Voodoo and zombies. Its a fitting setting considering the background of Resident Evil.

There's no inherent racism or bias being shown. If that were the case, people would have been going bezerk over The Serpent and the Rainbow since the main protagonist is white and the villain, portrayed great by Zakes Mokai, btw. Get off your racial high-horse and just enjoy the game instead of going down the road of racism. It does not do anyone any good and just furthers the "racial divide" which the media (news, not gaming) loves to perpetuate.
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:37
Kryptinite
@Bigpopagamer

I agree with you :)
Bluefusion's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:38
Bluefusion
Jim, I love you, but I have to dissent. I'm very pissed off that you would even say something as retarded as, "Well, this is unconventional, and some would say impossible, but I'm going to throw a white opinion into the ring."

Hello? This entire debacle is largely being discussed by white people across the gaming community. All we have heard is the opinion of white people, all we will continue to hear is the opinion of white people. Ok, we may get the occasional black person's opinion, but holy hell it better agree with the white person's, or else they're obviously peddling the race card. Because, you know, that's all black people like to do nowadays.

To everyone who can't possibly understand why a black person might question the setting of RE5, go read Guitaratomik's blog. He did a very good job.

Just as Croal said, it is hard to put it into words. Try to see this through a black person's eyes for once, as opposed to our privileged white male eyes. Your history is one of oppression and injustice. Your grandparents were slaves of white people. Your countries of origin in Africa are failed states and civil war is rife because of the aftereffects colonization.

Then you have this game, with violent imagery of savage black people. Look, if they actually remotely looked like Zombies, then there wouldn't be half the problem. But, these guys look/act even less like Zombies than the Spaniards in RE4. As it stands, it basically looks like a white guy is going to go to Africa to kill all the Africans.

You can sit there and say, "OMG all these ignorant people need to read the premise of the game!11!1 They're Zombies!1!11" However, this exemplifies the problem Croal is trying to get at. At least from the trailer, the context is not apparent at all. It is not even necessary to the game. If you showed this to a white supremacist, would he interpret it as a white man killing zombies, or a white man killing black people? If you would get the latter response, then the developers have not done enough to distinguish between the two.

As white people, we say racism is dead because we don't see it overtly, and surely each of us like to believe we don't harbor racist feelings. Therefore, whenever race is brought up, it's because those damn black people are at it again.

As black people, they experience racism on a daily basis, but cannot even always pinpoint where it is coming from, because nobody in their right mind is openly racist anymore. But, it exhibits itself in subtle ways. Nevertheless, black people feel it and they know it is there.

Then a game like this comes along, and it is just begging to be the focus of their anger. If this mushrooms into a giant PR disaster for the gaming industry in the media, then I, at least, will hold the developers partly responsible. Games do not exist in a vacuum. They are bound to be interpreted in a social context, especially when they can be perceived as treading the thin line of race relations.
AML's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:38
AML
@Jim: ...shame on you, gent, I thought you were smarter than that, not only to outright dismiss another journalist's opinion without being able to refute his points, but to be thoroughly outpointed by MaxVest and again have no response.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:39
Jim Sterling
"Jim, I've watched it three times now and I tend to agree with all his points except the details, which are sometimes there and sometimes not. Silence is meant to convey the menace of something non-human, which it does here."

You're saying that the trailer is portraying the African villager pre-zombie as non-human? I really did not get that. Lord, plenty of trailers show imagery with just music and no sound. I got the sense from the trailer that something about the village was not quite right, that there was a calm before the storm. The sinister feeling had nothing to do with them being black, and everything to do with it being, y'know -- a HORROR game.

Let's not confuse tried and true horror conventions with racism, just because there are black people.

"And if we want to talk about thin-skinned, let's compare the number of blogs that say the game has racist overtones and the number of blogs that say it doesn't and people are just being overly sensitive."

Please do, it'd let me feel happy that more people are finding it non-racist than those that do. Which is actually a positive thing. N'gai complains that we "don't see it," but isn't that a good thing? Not instantly thinking "black = racist" can only be a good thing.

"I've seen plenty of white people draping themselves across the altar of martyrdom, playing a full hand of victim cards. It's obscene, really, because when have we as a group ever really been victims of anything in any real sense of the word?"

And when have most modern day black people been victims? Let's face it, most of the "plight" of black people stems from something that happened decades before they were even born. While slavery was horrible, it is not a relevant issue in today's society. 200 years ago, some people we don't know victimized some other people we don't know. That's the crux.

And sorry, but with shit like affirmative action, and people deliberately employing black people to make up their racial numbers, I think it's fair to say that discrimination CAN happen to white people.

"Would you honestly trade being a white adult male for any other possible arrangement of age, sex, and race in the world? If not, then righteous indignation is the wrong response."

I am indignant because a videogame is trying something new and there are those trying to discourage it.

"Did Capcom set out to oppress black people, or encourage others to do so? No. Do all black people look at this and feel offended? No. Is it a sensitive issue? Yes, and that is N'Gai's central argument."

If you look at what N'gai said to me, he accuses Capcom of having no grace in dealing with this issue, and that is the disagreement I have. Read his comments in that thread. They grow steadily less sensible to the point where he ends up using racist hyperbole.
negate's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:45
negate
If this game is actually in Haiti then having the zombies be white would be even more racist. According to the CIA world factbook 95% of Haiti is black and 5 % is white. It just shows that Capcom did their homework and fail media outlets did not. If people want a controversy badly enough they'll make one out of anything.
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:45
DeusPayne
Of course. It's clear that JAPANESE people have a vested interest into the united state's feelings towards racism these days..... retards.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:45
Jim Sterling
"Jim, I love you, but I have to dissent. I'm very pissed off that you would even say something as retarded as, "Well, this is unconventional, and some would say impossible, but I'm going to throw a white opinion into the ring." "

I am sorry that upset you, but the joke there stems from a few arguments I've had on the race issue before where I am made to feel like I don't deserve an opinion because I am white, therefore have absolutely no idea what racism is.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:46
Tubatic
Blufusion and AML

Thank you. I agree with you.
Carac's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:47
Carac
What a convoluted and poorly constructed way of saying "I don't envy Capcom because mainstream media's self-righteous political correctness will sink its teeth into RE5 without a the proper context of the Resident Evil series and see it as racist." He was basically saying that RE5 is a PR timebomb that gamer's down hear ticking. And while this is a valid statement, the way he goes about explaining it utterly fails.

As worded, he implies that gamers that don't see the possible racial imagery a non-gamer would see are either stupid or racist themselves. A gamer with a knowledge of Resident Evil and its history only see a game where: A) There are zombies that want to see your insides on the ground. B) Your main character has a sense of self-preservation and a gun C) Zombies must die.

I would like to think that his statement is a poor attempt at patting gamer's on the back for doing what mainstream media can't: look beyond skin color and take context into consideration. The game takes place in Africa in a place where the vast majority of the population is black. The game series is about zombie outbreaks. It's not a stretch to assume that the majority of zombies in that area would be black as well, just by virtue of its location.

I for one am proud that the portion of our community N'Gai refrences didn't see race in that video. They saw new lighting effects, similar gameplay to RE4, and a promising look at Resident Evil's direction. They didn't see skin color, they saw zombies...is that a bad thing?
Go Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:47
Go Man
@Max Damn man. I'm coming to this late, so I'm gonna have to get behind Max on this. He couldn't have said it any better.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:48
MaxVest
@AML: I think Jim's silence has more to do with him writing other articles, and less to do with being left speechless.

And, to be fair to Jim, I understand where he's coming from. I grew up in a town where I didn't really have to think about race at all, so I didn't. When I saw news coverage, I thought everybody was being too sensitive, and if people just stopped talking about it the problem would go away. It seemed self-created, or at least self-perpetuated.

Later on, though, my circumstances changed and I started looking a little more critically at things I had taken for granted before. If not for that external change, which I didn't intend to happen, I might be writing something much like Jim has written. So everybody is coming from a unique place, and fundamental beliefs don't change overnight.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:49
Jim Sterling
My point is this: Capcom would have made that trailer the same way if it was set in a European village. The fact that the village and the music and everything is so sinister is not because they are black. It is because it is a trailer for a horror game.

It strikes me as myopic that we're accusing horror stereotypes of being racial stereotypes here. All that trailer did was use the same kind of horror conventions we've seen for years, but because it has black people this time, some people are growing confused.
AutomaticZen's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:50
AutomaticZen
For comparison:
"White" Zombie from previous Resident Evil game:

"Spanish" zombies from RE4

The apparently unzombified mob from RE5 Trailer:

The zombies:

If you can honestly say the average person can see the difference between the last two image, then be my guest. Hell, the unzombified mob of black people looks scarier than the zombies. So why are people acting as if people seeing anything is so far fetched?
Myrmidon16's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:50
Myrmidon16
"This is problematic on so many levels... the fact that this video game is marketed to children and young adults. Start them young… fearing, hating, and destroying Black people."

yeaaaaaaa... theyre really marketing a MATURE game to children. right.
Zombian's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:51
Zombian
all i have to say is: WTF, so many other games offer seemingly more rascist racial steriotypes than this. for instance, has anyone thought about how in COD4 you kill people from the middle east, yet no one says anything about that because now it seems that people are inherintly racist against the middle eastern / ethnic group for reasons of war currently on their doorstep. yet, it was not called out on it. why? because people had enough sense to say "hey this is realistic not rascist" which is true. Now my theory is that RE5 is not rascist just not realistic, and since there is not an element of realism in it the rascism stamp can be mor easily stamped on this game. many things in the media accused of being rascist in the past were unrealistic thus it was assumed that this is what people want to do, not what is happening in the world. If anyone sees my point then please tell me because its quite hard to convey this early in the morning, but this is the rough draft at least.

p.s. people should refer to the moral of the South Park episode where they are choosing a new southpark flag that seems very rascist but not to the kids, and the reason it was not rascist to the children is because they did not distinguish between the black and the white characters on the flag... they just saw people... THIS IS THE PARADOX OF RASCISM THAT WE CAN ALMOST NEVER SHY AWAYS FROM. ...
Foe's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:53
Foe
I agree with you Jim, It's too bad that the only place it's OK to kill zombies is a backwater town like Raccoon city or some little hamlet in spain. And why has no one brought up RE4 in all this? You kill spanish villagers before you even KNOW they are zombies? Where was all these protestors then?

But like you said, I'm white so that makes me auto-racist for agreeing you. I don't think I am, but what do I know.
Revolt in Colour's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:54
Revolt in Colour
LOL @ AML thinking JIm has nothing to do but sit in this thread and defend his opinion over and over again.
dephect's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:56
dephect
I guess the next time I see a white zombie getting killed I should call my lawyer.
How about the black guy in grand theft auto, he beats the shit out of white people... should we cry about that too?
I swear... some of this racial crap pisses me off, its a damn video game get over it. Trust me, there is much more shit to boycott or bitch over.. you know serious issues.
AutomaticZen's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:57
AutomaticZen
"You're saying that the trailer is portraying the African villager pre-zombie as non-human? I really did not get that. "

Third screenshot I posted Jim.
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:58
TheStripe
N'Gai: "Well, I don't think it's racist, but you can see here HOW ONE MIGHT THINK IT IS, ISN'T THAT RIGHT AL SHARPTON? LOOK RIGHT HERE, THERE'S HOW IT MIGHT BE RACIST."

Stupid. Detailing a laundry list of "perceived" racist things is 100% exactly the same as being offended by it. Christ, let reactionaries who aren't willing to find out the whole story find those things themselves. As long as "Black Community" and "Black America" are accepted as empowering rather than racially divisive (which they are) racism will still be a problem.
Bioautographical's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:58
Bioautographical
"Is it a sensitive issue? Yes, and that is N'Gai's central argument."

If that's true, then I can't understand why people cuddle up to his nuts as a writer. OMG, race is a sensitive issue. How groundbreaking. I'm sure Pulitzer has an erection.

Jim's point, beyond disagreeing with that he THOUGHT he saw in the trailer, is that people need to STOP being sensitive about the damned subject. His point is that if you can't have games with black zombies, then how the fuck far have we come? "His point is that it's a sensitive issues" - hell yes, it is. It's a sensitive issue because the moment some joker calls for some stupid boycott, the moment anymore shit like the Black Looks blog pops up, I'm going to lose my shit.

The difference between Jim talking about it and Croal talking about it is that, from Croal's perspective, gaming publishers are obligated to sensor themselves about sensitive subjects. And the ability to even think like that approaches being as bad AS the overly sensitive person who whines that RE5 is just an opportunity for "the white man to kill the black man".

This is a GAME. It is set in a predominately black nation. Oh noes, apocalypse, all the natives are zombies. They've done it to Americans (well, quasi-Americans), they've done it to Spaniards, and now they're black. And only now does anyone have a problem.

So, I think you've got it backwards - I don't think Jim only thinks about race when he wants to, as per his "luxury". I don't think he thinks about it at all. I think people who even PROPOSE that this game has any racist content, even if merely stating that they THINK it could "be taken the wrong way", are the ones who only think about race when they want to. Again - where was the outrage about a primarily Japanese company featuring white people or Spaniards as the "sinister" element in their games? It was nowhere. It was a game, people played it and STFU.

I am outright sick and goddamned tired of this victim mentality perpetuated both by people who get offended over this stuff, and people who worry about those who MIGHT get offended over it.
Kayka's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:58
Kayka
The trailer definitely makes the game look racist for someone who is unfamiliar with RE or games in general. Also unlike in RE 4 you can barely recognize the people as zombies.
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:58
B-Radicate
No one cared about GTA: San Andreas (at least for this particular reason) when CJ killed EVERYONE.

No one cared about 50 Cent's Bulletproof (because no one bought it) when Fitty massacred cops.

No one cared about the main Crackdown avatar (because you didn't HAVE to be black) killing massive amounts of large racial groups.

No one cared about the first RE games (because they were white and/or hispanic zombies).

OF COURSE black people are gonna care about this. ONLY THEY deserve not to be depicted as evil, villainous, or undead.

Nice read, Jim. As always.
GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:58
GuitarAtomik
@Jim

[i]"My point is this: Capcom would have made that trailer the same way if it was set in a European village. The fact that the village and the music and everything is so sinister is not because they are black. It is because it is a trailer for a horror game.

It strikes me as myopic that we're accusing horror stereotypes of being racial stereotypes here. All that trailer did was use the same kind of horror conventions we've seen for years, but because it has black people this time, some people are growing confused.[/i]

Again, this very statement proves that you are missing the point about N'Gai's comments on imagery.
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 09:59
Cheeburga
I liked it better when we didn't have to fucking examine every game for undertones of racism or sexism or any other kind of bullshit. Just let me play my damn games.
Demios's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 10:00
Demios
Not this shit again...Ugh.

It's just a game.

@B-Radicate

"No one cared about GTA: San Andreas (at least for this particular reason) when CJ killed EVERYONE."

Agreed
Carac's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 10:01
Carac
@AutomaticZen

We'll end up taking about the logistics of turning into a zombie. But whatever, here goes:

The zombies in the original RE had been zombies for period of time long enough for flesh to start rotting and falling off. The "zombies" in RE4 were infected with a parasite that minorly altered their appearance. I would like to believe that Capcom is merely exploring all of the different sources of the zombie mythos. They have explored the pop-culture sources of zombies with viral outbreak and parasitic infection. Resident Evil 5 appears to be approaching the zombie myth where it began, in Afrian folklore and Voodoo. I can't think of anyway of tackling the most "historically accurate" origins of zombies without taking to back to Africa.
xper's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 10:02
xper
GuitarAtomic's e-peen is about to put an eye out very soon...
gotdurnrite's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 10:05
gotdurnrite
I can see where N'Gai is coming from. Initial reaction from a black person who knows nothing about the game and just happens upon seeing this would definitely see something wrong.

I know if my Dad saw me playing this when I was a kid he jump to that conclusion immediately. Even if he knew that wasn't supposed to be racist he would have a problem with it. It would make him uncomfortable.

Regardless of how far we have come some people still harbor some resentment and some wounds don't heal.
kevvo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/11/2008 10:05
kevvo
"And when have most modern day black people been victims? Let's face it, most of the "plight" of black people stems from something that happened decades before they were even born. While slavery was horrible, it is not a relevant issue in today's society. 200 years ago, some people we don't know victimized some other people we don't know. That's the crux. "

Not a fair statement at all, granted it didnt happen to me but we still feel the after effects pretty big in this country. The african american slave trade is one(if not the biggests) atrocity in american and human history. Its not something easily forgotten. Many in america(mostly non blacks) would like it to be forgotten because of the dark mark it left upon this country. Telling a black person that it isn't relevant is like telling a jew that the holocaust isnt relevant anymore. Every racist issue I have dealt with in my life ultimately stems from slavery, the fact that blacks were made out to be less of a man and should be treated as such. You can talk like it doesnt exist anymore. Its still very rampant. Granted I do not find the game to be offensive, I praise capcom for going that route. So please before anyone else says anything else about slavery, A. Action or anything else about the plight of african americans, walk a mile in my shoes and see the shit I put up with.
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