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When the trailer for Resident Evil 5 was released, it caused quite a stir with its imagery of Chris Redfield, a white man, going to a foreign country to shoot black zombies. Before we had even seen the game in full or known any details on the story, there were those in our society willing to brand it racist, to extrapolate an entire metaphor and mindset behind this game from five minutes of footage.
The majority of us laughed at such ridiculous notions, and didn't see anything wrong with the trailer, but according to N'Gai Croal, as we discussed yesterday, that was the wrong opinion and we need to see the inherent racial undertones in this five minute video.
So once again, this "controversy" has reared its ugly head, as we get to hear a black point of view about this oh-so racist game. Well, this is unconventional, and some would say impossible, but I'm going to throw a white opinion into the ring. I know, I know, white people aren't really allowed to have opinions on racism if you talk to some individuals, but let's throw convention to the wind just this once.
I want to talk about Resident Evil 5, and I am going to.
No matter what side of the fence you are on, it firstly cannot be denied that Capcom is taking a bold step by setting Resident Evil 5 in Africa. Racial sensitivity aside, it is a fresh and new environment, one that we are not used to seeing in videogames at all. The bright sunlight, arid backdrop and cultural uniqueness is something that rarely crops up in a game, and for that I commend Capcom thoroughly. This, however, is the very crux of the reason that I am so upset when it's instantly crucified as being racist.
We complain about "dark" and "gritty" games all time, with their gray urban environments and complete lack of color. Here, we finally have an action game that intends to do something different, and it causes a problem. This game takes us to a mysterious (for many of us) and foreign land, and there are those that feel it should not be allowed.
The sad thing is, this kind of "controversy" was utterly predictable. While I merely saw a cool game trailer, the very fact that there were naught but black zombies gave me a nagging feeling that we were about to hear some bullshit, and hear it soon. I was not disappointed, as the Black Looks blog soon jumped on this five minutes of game footage to tear it apart as the racist propaganda it so clearly was:
The new Resident Evil video game depicts a white man in what appears to be Africa killing Black people. The Black people are supposed to be zombies and the white man’s job is to destroy them and save humanity…
This is problematic on so many levels, including the depiction of Black people as inhuman savages, the killing of Black people by a white man in military clothing, and the fact that this video game is marketed to children and young adults. Start them young… fearing, hating, and destroying Black people.
The sheer level of presumptuous arrogance found in Kym Platt's blog post was offensive, and racist in its own right. This woman insisted on capitalizing the word "Black" while not giving "white" the same level of reverence, and throws in claims like "supposed to be zombies" as if Capcom's intention was to actually promote the murder of black people. She also seemed to think the game was purely "white man" propaganda, despite the fact it's being developed in Japan. Again, all of this she managed to glean from a five minute trailer.
There is a lot I could say about Kym Platt and the problems I find with her self-serving complaints and insistence on dwelling on long-passed history, but I'll stick with Resident Evil. That Platt was able to dream up this entire racist motivation for Resident Evil 5 is little more than self-parody, evidenced by the fact that I totally predicted something like this would happen before it did. However, Platt is a self-segregated non-gamer with no understanding of Resident Evil. She looks for ways to be racially offended, so we shouldn't be too surprised.
N'Gai Croal, however, is a different matter.
"Wow, clearly no one black worked on this game," was Croal's gut reaction to the Resident Evil 5 trailer, and frankly I expected better from such a learned gamer. Croal compared the trailer to a game set in 1940's Europe featuring emaciated Jew zombies, as if a modern-day African village was anything that could be directly compared to such a game. As I told N'Gai myself, the leap in logic was utterly astounding, and not something I would expect from him. Like Platt, Croal seemed to pull a lot more from this five minute trailer than most of us:
This is why a game in which a white protagonist will be shooting hundreds of black zombies should be handled with more care than what’s been evidenced by the trailer. Classic racist stereotypes: a silent or unintelligible populace, barely distinguishable features–heck, they’re barely lit–and unmotivated hostility towards the white hero even before they go straight zombie on us. A grab bag of diasporic traditions: Senegalese vocals, Haitian voodoo. And that white guy killing all those black zombies. For you, this apparently adds up to a preview for one cool game. For me, I’m saying to myself, if they’re this careless at best and racist at worst in five minutes of linear content, what’s in store for us in 10 hours of interactive gameplay?
This is taken from the debate Croal and I are currently having in the MTV Multiplayer blog that posted his comments on the trailer. Croal, who himself made sweeping racial generalizations with the "no one black worked on this game" comment, said Capcom handled its representation of Africa "with all of the grace of a dancing elephant."
How ... exactly?
Re-watching the trailer, even looking for the "racist at worst" elements that Croal can see, I cannot really find what is so terrible. Croal talks about the villagers being "silent or unintelligible," but if you look at the trailer, there IS no sound for the first minute. No background noise, no talking, from anybody. They are not being "silent or unintelligible"; in fact, you see two characters clearly having a conversation with each other. You simply don't hear it because you don't hear anything.
He talks about them being barely lit and lacking distinguishable features, and again that is simply untrue, making me wonder how many times Croal watched this video before drawing his conclusions. I can see them all quite clearly, personally. He talks about "unmotivated hostility" towards Chris, and again ... no. Chris walks through the village quite undisturbed, as the villagers go about their daily business. The only non-zombie hostility seen in the game is a crowd of black villagers throwing stones at ... oh my word ... not Chris Redfield, but another black man who seems to be causing them trouble!
The very fact that Croal provided me with this slew of examples that simply don't exist betrays his own willingness to look for racism that isn't there, to be offended by that which did not set out to offend.
At the end of the day, this trailer is not racist, nor is it particularly ignorant. Chris Redfield walks through an African village of African villagers doing their daily business, and apparently being involved in some sort of internal conflict, and then they all disappear, before the non-discriminatory virus takes effect. That's all it is. It's really incredibly simple, but there always has to be a group of people willing to make it more complex than it has to be. This is all part of that "one race is sacred above all else" attitude that keeps racism going rather than makes us all equal.
And this is why we can't have nice things.
Croal would seem to like Capcom to tip-toe around this issue, because of the "history" behind the images found in the trailer, and coming from a gamer, I find that disappointing. Capcom should not have to restrict what it wants to do just to avoid the risk of upsetting the easily offended, or rambling self-servers like Kym Platt.
Many of us would like to see videogames take a step forward as a legitimate art form, or at least be taken seriously as an avenue for compelling storytelling. If a videogame cannot be set in Africa without causing this kind of faux-controversy, however, we really are taking two steps back for every step forward we take. I have a fearful image of racial activists putting pressure on retailers when this game comes out, doing what they can to boycott the "bigoted" videogame and using bullying tactics and racial blackmail to have their way. Croal talks about retailers not stocking this game, and it could be possible -- though not through any fault of Capcom's, more the fault of an angered "black community" (such a horrible, segregating term) and the retailers who are scared of upsetting them.
If we can't set a horror game in Africa without this kind of childish over-reaction, then we are nowhere near close to having videogames taken seriously, or to them being brave enough to show us some diversity. What Capcom has done deserves our support, unless we want every single action game to be set in the same old warehouses, with the usual collection of crates and exploding barrels. I'd rather see developers encouraged to take the kind of broad step seen in Resident Evil 5, rather than discouraged.
But then, I'm just a white guy, I guess. What do I know?
Not really gonna comment on how I feel about this as I can see both sides of it and it would be just the same stuff everyone else has been saying. I will however say I never really noticed they w...... read more
I guess N'Gai thought the movie The Serpent & the Rainbow is a racist movie as well. RE5 looks like it's taking Craven's flick as inspiration for the new setting of their game.
I'll say it again..I saw nothing racial about it and that's my two cents worth from Hispanic's point of view.
I just think Capcom is approching the Zombie story from Vodoo lore.
I think destroy all human's is another terrible example of racism in a video game. we're painting that alien as a savage killer of all life even though everyone know's the greys gave the egyptians the knowledge to build the pyramids.
Sarcasm aside, does the Black Looks log remind anyone else of Hooper X's "they're trying to tell us that deep down inside we all want to be white" speech from Chasing Amy? Just comparing the whole illogical and out of context ranting that seems to be going on there.
I'm not condoning or belittling the hardships that's befallen Black people over history, but most of today's "walking on eggshells" attitude to racism comes from people being offended about things they weren't alive to be offended by.
Of course racism still exists, but sadly it's on all sides. The sooner we realise that racism effects us all, the sooner we can move on from it.
WOW, this opened my eyes...this game is incredibly racist...so much so that every RE game before it was just japanese people acting out there white american killing fantasy...actually thats almost every game ever made...I MAD AND I WANT MONEY!!! NOW!!!
I don't see what is racist about a setting, I mean jesus christ it's set in a country similar to Haiti are there going to be a bunch of white people for you to kill? NO!
Don't you see? This was Capcom's plan from the START! They lure you in with 6+ games in a series... and then BLAM their plan in set into motion with the racist that they wish to ingrain in us all.
The perfect plan. Thank god these people alerted us to the plot before we all got sucked in!
I liked all the evidence you gave Jim, really good work on this. For the people who think this is racist just think about RE4. When did any group of Spaniards get upset over that game? There was chanting, it was dimly lit, they all looked the same. Why didn't N'gai Croal get mad about that? I respect N'gai very much but this is a little far for just a trailer.
like every game before it, RE5 will be released. it will be good. some people won't buy it b/c of the trailer, and they will miss out on a good game.
had this not recieved press in other outlets, i'd commend you for bringing it to the light, but your beating a dead horse, and opening a forum for racist remarks, which in turn will just be used in the argument that gamers are ignorant bastards.
So can i get all fucked up and pissed off about the Blade movies now? I mean it's essentially the same situation reversed, an all powerful black man running around killing defenceless white vampires? Oh crap that's right it's fictional, shit i hate it when logic gets in the way...
One of the benefits of being white in the West, and I admit I enjoy this benefit, is only having to think about race when I want to. You seem to view this privilege as evidence that you have evolved beyond pedestrian ideas of race, when all it really says to me is that you are part of a racial majority.
I think N'Gai's position is both sound and tenable, despite your efforts to paint him as someone who is thin-skinned on this particular issue. Maybe the fact that we're on day two and multiple blog posts on an issue that's six months old means that N'Gai was right -- this is a sensitive issue, and lots of people feel like they have something to say about it. N'Gai is careful to frame his arguments in non-normative ways -- he doesn't say people should take offense, he says some people [/i]will[/i] take offense. The more you talk, the more you prove him right. Obviously this is a sensitive issue to you or you wouldn't take it on so passionately.
Good article Jim. I find myself wondering how many people would complain if a black protagonist went around killing white people. Nobody cared about the 50cent game, shit example as it may be.
I apologize if this is going to come out crude but I’m not fully awake yet. -_-
Do I think the trailer is racist? No, but I don’t think the ability to interpret this it out of the question. I believe GuitarAtomik’s blog was much more eloquent about this…
I think the problem with this is seeing the trailer in view as a non-gamer. We use the term zombie pretty freely but I personally don’t think everyone who doesn’t know about the series is going to see the transformation sequence in the trailer and assume zombie immediately (especially since they are not the more commonly known shambling undead variation).
If I remember the Resident Evil 4 debut US trailer (don’t think I ever saw the Japanese one) correctly, they had the El Gigante boss in the trailer that help place the setting in fantasy. The Resident Evil 5? Not so much. Excluding the transformation sequence most of the visuals in there don’t seem unnatural or unrealistic which I think is helping to contribute to the problem.
Also, as the game isn’t out yet I don’t think we can say for certain if it’s racist or not. If every single black person in the game is portrayed negatively and there is a secret level filled with fried chicken wing and watermelons then well… egg on our face.
Jim, I may not agree with your taste in games but we're in the same boat as far as game politics go.
I'm black and I don't see any racism in Africa. The problem, I think, is that Africa is considered a very sensitive issue what with the genocide, cannibalistic voodoo, massive poverty and aids. However sensitive though, none of those stereotypes are present barring a LITTLE bit of voodoo.
Wasn't there a movie starring Bruce Willis killing black people in africa? I didn't see the problem there.
It is hard for me to grasp this whole racist deal, as i live in a country where there are no blacks at all.
But this is hypocrisity at its worst. Like, seriously, i thought we were going for an "all races are equal" world, but then we have bitches like this who actually tell us that NO WAY IN HELL are you going to kill blacks in a game, nuh uh.
If they were all white, wouldn't it be racist towards whites?
Maybe we will get a comment from the zombie community on how the hate for zombies is really discriminating.
Great article. It's refreshing to read a more detached (from a racial standpoint) counter-argument on another of these "OMG!! this is teh racizms!" discussions that pop up every so now and again.
I'm really disappointed to see N'gai be the one to bring this up though as I usually take most of what he writes in high regard. This one time unfortunately the argument just reeks of being an attention grabbing one rather than something that is actually of any constructive use.
So I guess RE4, in which a white person killed lots of Spanish zombies, was okay with "the black community"? Seems a bit hypocritical to me, kind of like coloured people calling each other the "N" word and then being mortally offended when a white person says it.
MaxVest: I made my case. Re-watch the trailer and then read N'gai's comments about it. The two do not match. He is straight up wrong about the trailer's content.
And considering he pulled out such hyperbole as "I know all blac people look the same, but do we need to sound the same?" kind of tells me he is thin-skinned.
Decently written as a man debating a point. Which is to say you've painted your opponents ridiculous, and painted yourself right. That's what opinion writing is all about, after all, right?
I don't agree with this alarmist stance of fearing that people with differing views on things will just tear our precious video games away from us.
And that's ok. You're a ripe bastard and most of us love you for it. You don't strive to be much more than that. You've said so, more or less, yourself, I think.
Also, settle down. My meaning: Grand Theft Auto SA happened, and NO ONE made a fuss about it. If that didn't raise the ire of the alarmist PORTION of the American black community, I don't think this will.
They're very much more concerned with defending Micheal Vick and his illegal dog fights . . . but that's a whole other bag of worms
@MaxVest
You're saying a lot of things that I agree with.
I gotta admit this floored me. I am not racist at all but I am really tired of the race card being played ALL THE DAMN TIME. If I disagree with someone that's black, I'm racist. Since I'm white I must think slavery is kewl. It's ok for me to be called cracker or whitey, but if I say the N word I'm a racist KKK member. There's a lot of double standards going on and I'm really sick of it. It's ridiculous to think that a bunch of Japanese people (who are not black or white) made a game about killing black people because they are racist.
Speaking of Africa, violence, and racism... do you mean to tell me that the black people who are so offended by this game are more worried about white on black violence than the black on black violence that is an everyday occurence in Africa? Black people have killed more black people than white people have killed black people. Breaking news: Black people are mean to other black people in Africa.
did you see the way Chris was running away from that undead group of BLACK PEOPLE?
it clearly represents the white mans fear of minorities, mainly BLACK PEOPLE. you can tell they are BLACK by the OVERWHELMING BLACKNESS of their skin and the fact that they lack a voice, their eyes turn red, their eyes symbolize individuality and their rights as human beings but its taken away by Chris who is a DISGUSTING BLACK MAN HATING WHITE PEOPLE PERSON.
Capcom is clearly RACIST and this kind of INTENTIONAL RACIAL IGNORANCE wont be tolerated by the BLACK BLACK BLACKITY BLACK!
I can see it now. Hundreds and hundreds of african american folks protesting this game on release day.
If it does get blown even more so out of what its viewd as now, I question if we will even see this game in america.
Its a damn shame. I'm black. My father and mother have always taught me and my 2 sisters that whats in the past is in the past. I feel helpless in trying to make others see in my generation that we as a people dont face the same things that our ppl once did some 500 years ago.
Every race has its story on how it got to america. I always thought it was more important to live for today, instead of a 500 year old "slave-like" mentality that I see so many of my fellow black man carrying around like a chip on his shoulder to this day.
Some people just cant move on. And cause of that Jim is right ...we can't have nice things.
This is an awesome article Jim. Leave it to Mr. Sterling and Destructoid to make sense of all of this. You could also probably write a great article on the meaning of life and other things of that mysterious/complex nature. Seriously, I loved what you had to say and you said it all very well.
n'gai could pull racism out of a hat if he wanted to. make it "magically" appear...
- pick a card any card
- but they're all race cards?
seriously... i do see his point, but as an artist, i feel like NOTHING should interfere with artistic integrity. even if the game was aimed to be racists, why shouldn't be allowed to? just don't buy it.
sure, you can talk about moral obligations, and you do have a certain amount of responsibility when you're a huge company like capcom. think about it, all capcom had to do was throw in a baby playing with a ball or something and it all would have been fine. you can still maintain the feel of the atmosphere. but they didn't, and thats their rightful choice to make. but think about, thats all they had to do...
kodus to you and ron, jim, for providing a decent, normal discussion with n'gai on the blog.
I think both sides can be right in this on a certain level. I personally believe that the only reason we're having this conversation is because we have yet to reach a point where people will not look for the imagery of racism in many elements. I don't 100% agree with N'Gai, GuitarAmok, or Jim, but I think they all have somewhat solid stances on the view based on their experience and perceptions regarding the game. And, that's perfectly fine since that's how life works, people don't agree and we move on.
Nothing in this paints anyone as a racist or as supporting racism, as some people have said, but emotions have muddied the arguments in many ways that make them seem racist (that works both ways, because there's no such thing as reverse-racism, idiotic politicians).
Jim, I've watched it three times now and I tend to agree with all his points except the details, which are sometimes there and sometimes not. Silence is meant to convey the menace of something non-human, which it does here. I don't think you're going to win arguments on consistency here if you refuse to allow consistency arguments later on about mixing and matching stereotypes.
And if we want to talk about thin-skinned, let's compare the number of blogs that say the game has racist overtones and the number of blogs that say it doesn't and people are just being overly sensitive. I've seen plenty of white people draping themselves across the altar of martyrdom, playing a full hand of victim cards. It's obscene, really, because when have we as a group ever really been victims of anything in any real sense of the word? Would you honestly trade being a white adult male for any other possible arrangement of age, sex, and race in the world? If not, then righteous indignation is the wrong response.
Did Capcom set out to oppress black people, or encourage others to do so? No. Do all black people look at this and feel offended? No. Is it a sensitive issue? Yes, and that is N'Gai's central argument. Look at the number of comments. People don't turn out in droves to talk about six-month-old trailers unless there's something going on.
what is this race card everyone talks about pulling? seriously, what is this? So people can't talk about race and how a culture, or even just a subset of a culture, perceives something?
Cheese and crackers guys, I thought we were hardcore? But we can't talk ABOUT race without spouting off defensive knee jerk debate points about how right our precious opinions are?
No one's going to stop you from playing RE5. No game has been successfully boycott into banning. You know how effect Jack Thompson was and he's effing prolific.
This is completely crazy, I know it a bit stupid to say this again but i think its a fair point 'why wasn't this an issue when the Spaniards were being killed', when it's black people being killed everyone is up in arms, i think people are still uncomfortable around the idea of saying something or doing something that black people might interpret as racist.
It reminds me of JD from Scrubs - he shits himself someone says 'slave' around black people.
Someone should let N'gai know that the only people that are going to find this racist are the black people who read too far into it, stop trying to convince people who don't see it as racism that it is racist.
I respect the guy immensely and read his blog regularly, but seriously - shut up N'Gai.
In an ideal world, the zombies depicted here would be taken as zombies, not black people. It may sound funny, but the first time I watched, I didn't even realize the implications of this trailer as white against black violence, but only man vs zombie survival.
@ Kryptinite
I'm not making up facts on the fly. I also didn't specify a time period which I should have. I'm not talking about since the dawn of time. I don't know anywhere that shows figures on numbers of blacks killed by white or black people in the 1600's.
However, if you look at just the last 50 years let's say, in just the last FIVE years in ONE are of Africa, 200,000 (and this number has been reported to be as much as 4 times that amount) blacks have been killed by other blacks in Darfur. I'm willing to bet that number alone is a lot greater than how many the KKK killed in the south USA. The kkk figure stands around 3500, and that is going back further than the 50 years I stated.
People need to stop their hobby of being offended. This goes for pretty much everything. People try too hard to be offended.
@Kryptinite: Going to have to agree with JACK of No Trades here. Even in the age of slavery, it was fellow Africans that captured and sold the slaves to the Dutch that were shipped overseas. And with the issues in Africa, millions upon millions have died directly and indirectly from the actions of their fellow Africans, whether it's the wholesale murder of opposing tribes or stealing the food and other supplies sent to impoverished nations to feed an army and let their own people starve to death.
As far as the "LOL, are we done yet?" comment, you don't need to read these articles, but I find it extremely refreshing that we are having sensible discussion on something that was bound to come up at some point in time rather than the typical racism-laden postings typical on most forums where they use racism to troll rather than to actually discuss the issue.
it's fucking startling to see people that don't read or understand what n'gai is saying.
again, it's not about shooting black people. read the original mtv interview before jumping to the conclusion that this is "n'gai going racists himself because his people are being shot in a videogame". it's not about that.
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I guess N'Gai thought the movie The Serpent & the Rainbow is a racist movie as well. RE5 looks like it's taking Craven's flick as inspiration for the new setting of their game.
I'll say it again..I saw nothing racial about it and that's my two cents worth from Hispanic's point of view.
I just think Capcom is approching the Zombie story from Vodoo lore.
It's good to see that both sides are being reasonable and articulate instead of emotive and derrogatory.
Wait.
Jim's white?!
I think destroy all human's is another terrible example of racism in a video game. we're painting that alien as a savage killer of all life even though everyone know's the greys gave the egyptians the knowledge to build the pyramids.
jim jim jim, you crazy crackuh!
great job as usual at bringing some sense of sanity to this ridiculous bout of crap
Sarcasm aside, does the Black Looks log remind anyone else of Hooper X's "they're trying to tell us that deep down inside we all want to be white" speech from Chasing Amy? Just comparing the whole illogical and out of context ranting that seems to be going on there.
...maybe Chris should have been covered in mud for the whole trailer?
Can't the past just stay in the past?
I'm not condoning or belittling the hardships that's befallen Black people over history, but most of today's "walking on eggshells" attitude to racism comes from people being offended about things they weren't alive to be offended by.
Of course racism still exists, but sadly it's on all sides. The sooner we realise that racism effects us all, the sooner we can move on from it.
Also, cocks.
WOW, this opened my eyes...this game is incredibly racist...so much so that every RE game before it was just japanese people acting out there white american killing fantasy...actually thats almost every game ever made...I MAD AND I WANT MONEY!!! NOW!!!
I don't see what is racist about a setting, I mean jesus christ it's set in a country similar to Haiti are there going to be a bunch of white people for you to kill? NO!
Good early morning read Jim.
The only people im racist against are stupid people. This really blows my mind. Its a video game about zombies and its the fifth one in the series.
@Jack
Don't you see? This was Capcom's plan from the START! They lure you in with 6+ games in a series... and then BLAM their plan in set into motion with the racist that they wish to ingrain in us all.
The perfect plan. Thank god these people alerted us to the plot before we all got sucked in!
I liked all the evidence you gave Jim, really good work on this. For the people who think this is racist just think about RE4. When did any group of Spaniards get upset over that game? There was chanting, it was dimly lit, they all looked the same. Why didn't N'gai Croal get mad about that? I respect N'gai very much but this is a little far for just a trailer.
you are giving this too much attention.
which is exactly what these assholes want.
like every game before it, RE5 will be released. it will be good. some people won't buy it b/c of the trailer, and they will miss out on a good game.
had this not recieved press in other outlets, i'd commend you for bringing it to the light, but your beating a dead horse, and opening a forum for racist remarks, which in turn will just be used in the argument that gamers are ignorant bastards.
Even if it was racist (which now I just wish it was), I'd still be playing it. Even if it were racist against whites. If the game is fun, I'm down.
Don't let the oppressed people hear about Manhunt. They say the "N" word in the game.
So can i get all fucked up and pissed off about the Blade movies now? I mean it's essentially the same situation reversed, an all powerful black man running around killing defenceless white vampires? Oh crap that's right it's fictional, shit i hate it when logic gets in the way...
Sorry, Jim, you're outmatched on this one.
One of the benefits of being white in the West, and I admit I enjoy this benefit, is only having to think about race when I want to. You seem to view this privilege as evidence that you have evolved beyond pedestrian ideas of race, when all it really says to me is that you are part of a racial majority.
I think N'Gai's position is both sound and tenable, despite your efforts to paint him as someone who is thin-skinned on this particular issue. Maybe the fact that we're on day two and multiple blog posts on an issue that's six months old means that N'Gai was right -- this is a sensitive issue, and lots of people feel like they have something to say about it. N'Gai is careful to frame his arguments in non-normative ways -- he doesn't say people should take offense, he says some people [/i]will[/i] take offense. The more you talk, the more you prove him right. Obviously this is a sensitive issue to you or you wouldn't take it on so passionately.
Good article Jim. I find myself wondering how many people would complain if a black protagonist went around killing white people. Nobody cared about the 50cent game, shit example as it may be.
well written as usual. Can we stop talking about this shit now?
Would this issue have ever come up if the game was set in Japan? Or what if it was a black man killing white zombies in London?
Ignorance breeds ignorance and anyone who thinks this trailer is in any way racist is ignorant...and stupid.
All I can say Jim is read my blog.
I apologize if this is going to come out crude but I’m not fully awake yet. -_-
Do I think the trailer is racist? No, but I don’t think the ability to interpret this it out of the question. I believe GuitarAtomik’s blog was much more eloquent about this…
I think the problem with this is seeing the trailer in view as a non-gamer. We use the term zombie pretty freely but I personally don’t think everyone who doesn’t know about the series is going to see the transformation sequence in the trailer and assume zombie immediately (especially since they are not the more commonly known shambling undead variation).
If I remember the Resident Evil 4 debut US trailer (don’t think I ever saw the Japanese one) correctly, they had the El Gigante boss in the trailer that help place the setting in fantasy. The Resident Evil 5? Not so much. Excluding the transformation sequence most of the visuals in there don’t seem unnatural or unrealistic which I think is helping to contribute to the problem.
Also, as the game isn’t out yet I don’t think we can say for certain if it’s racist or not. If every single black person in the game is portrayed negatively and there is a secret level filled with fried chicken wing and watermelons then well… egg on our face.
Or... just read GuitarAtomik's blog. >.< I'm slow.
Jim, I may not agree with your taste in games but we're in the same boat as far as game politics go.
I'm black and I don't see any racism in Africa. The problem, I think, is that Africa is considered a very sensitive issue what with the genocide, cannibalistic voodoo, massive poverty and aids. However sensitive though, none of those stereotypes are present barring a LITTLE bit of voodoo.
Wasn't there a movie starring Bruce Willis killing black people in africa? I didn't see the problem there.
It is hard for me to grasp this whole racist deal, as i live in a country where there are no blacks at all.
But this is hypocrisity at its worst. Like, seriously, i thought we were going for an "all races are equal" world, but then we have bitches like this who actually tell us that NO WAY IN HELL are you going to kill blacks in a game, nuh uh.
If they were all white, wouldn't it be racist towards whites?
Maybe we will get a comment from the zombie community on how the hate for zombies is really discriminating.
Great article. It's refreshing to read a more detached (from a racial standpoint) counter-argument on another of these "OMG!! this is teh racizms!" discussions that pop up every so now and again.
I'm really disappointed to see N'gai be the one to bring this up though as I usually take most of what he writes in high regard. This one time unfortunately the argument just reeks of being an attention grabbing one rather than something that is actually of any constructive use.
I havent seen that trailer since it was released a while back, that game looks fucking INTENSE...oops, I meant RACIST AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE.
that wasnt Chris Redfield falcon-punching a zombie, that was Chris Redfield falcon-punching a BLACK MAN!
let that one sink in....
yeah...
its racist!!
So I guess RE4, in which a white person killed lots of Spanish zombies, was okay with "the black community"? Seems a bit hypocritical to me, kind of like coloured people calling each other the "N" word and then being mortally offended when a white person says it.
MaxVest: I made my case. Re-watch the trailer and then read N'gai's comments about it. The two do not match. He is straight up wrong about the trailer's content.
And considering he pulled out such hyperbole as "I know all blac people look the same, but do we need to sound the same?" kind of tells me he is thin-skinned.
qwerty: The Famitsu interview says the game is in Africa.
Decently written as a man debating a point. Which is to say you've painted your opponents ridiculous, and painted yourself right. That's what opinion writing is all about, after all, right?
I don't agree with this alarmist stance of fearing that people with differing views on things will just tear our precious video games away from us.
And that's ok. You're a ripe bastard and most of us love you for it. You don't strive to be much more than that. You've said so, more or less, yourself, I think.
Also, settle down. My meaning: Grand Theft Auto SA happened, and NO ONE made a fuss about it. If that didn't raise the ire of the alarmist PORTION of the American black community, I don't think this will.
They're very much more concerned with defending Micheal Vick and his illegal dog fights . . . but that's a whole other bag of worms
@MaxVest
You're saying a lot of things that I agree with.
@GuitarAtomik
You Too.
I gotta admit this floored me. I am not racist at all but I am really tired of the race card being played ALL THE DAMN TIME. If I disagree with someone that's black, I'm racist. Since I'm white I must think slavery is kewl. It's ok for me to be called cracker or whitey, but if I say the N word I'm a racist KKK member. There's a lot of double standards going on and I'm really sick of it. It's ridiculous to think that a bunch of Japanese people (who are not black or white) made a game about killing black people because they are racist.
Speaking of Africa, violence, and racism... do you mean to tell me that the black people who are so offended by this game are more worried about white on black violence than the black on black violence that is an everyday occurence in Africa? Black people have killed more black people than white people have killed black people. Breaking news: Black people are mean to other black people in Africa.
did you see the way Chris was running away from that undead group of BLACK PEOPLE?
it clearly represents the white mans fear of minorities, mainly BLACK PEOPLE. you can tell they are BLACK by the OVERWHELMING BLACKNESS of their skin and the fact that they lack a voice, their eyes turn red, their eyes symbolize individuality and their rights as human beings but its taken away by Chris who is a DISGUSTING BLACK MAN HATING WHITE PEOPLE PERSON.
Capcom is clearly RACIST and this kind of INTENTIONAL RACIAL IGNORANCE wont be tolerated by the BLACK BLACK BLACKITY BLACK!
seriously jim, I could do this all damn day.
I can see it now. Hundreds and hundreds of african american folks protesting this game on release day.
If it does get blown even more so out of what its viewd as now, I question if we will even see this game in america.
Its a damn shame. I'm black. My father and mother have always taught me and my 2 sisters that whats in the past is in the past. I feel helpless in trying to make others see in my generation that we as a people dont face the same things that our ppl once did some 500 years ago.
Every race has its story on how it got to america. I always thought it was more important to live for today, instead of a 500 year old "slave-like" mentality that I see so many of my fellow black man carrying around like a chip on his shoulder to this day.
Some people just cant move on. And cause of that Jim is right ...we can't have nice things.
This is an awesome article Jim. Leave it to Mr. Sterling and Destructoid to make sense of all of this. You could also probably write a great article on the meaning of life and other things of that mysterious/complex nature. Seriously, I loved what you had to say and you said it all very well.
LOL, are we done yet?
@digitaldemigod
Black people have killed more black people than white people have killed black people.
don't make facts up on the fly. It's tacky.
n'gai could pull racism out of a hat if he wanted to. make it "magically" appear...
- pick a card any card
- but they're all race cards?
seriously... i do see his point, but as an artist, i feel like NOTHING should interfere with artistic integrity. even if the game was aimed to be racists, why shouldn't be allowed to? just don't buy it.
sure, you can talk about moral obligations, and you do have a certain amount of responsibility when you're a huge company like capcom. think about it, all capcom had to do was throw in a baby playing with a ball or something and it all would have been fine. you can still maintain the feel of the atmosphere. but they didn't, and thats their rightful choice to make. but think about, thats all they had to do...
kodus to you and ron, jim, for providing a decent, normal discussion with n'gai on the blog.
I think both sides can be right in this on a certain level. I personally believe that the only reason we're having this conversation is because we have yet to reach a point where people will not look for the imagery of racism in many elements. I don't 100% agree with N'Gai, GuitarAmok, or Jim, but I think they all have somewhat solid stances on the view based on their experience and perceptions regarding the game. And, that's perfectly fine since that's how life works, people don't agree and we move on.
Nothing in this paints anyone as a racist or as supporting racism, as some people have said, but emotions have muddied the arguments in many ways that make them seem racist (that works both ways, because there's no such thing as reverse-racism, idiotic politicians).
Jim, I've watched it three times now and I tend to agree with all his points except the details, which are sometimes there and sometimes not. Silence is meant to convey the menace of something non-human, which it does here. I don't think you're going to win arguments on consistency here if you refuse to allow consistency arguments later on about mixing and matching stereotypes.
And if we want to talk about thin-skinned, let's compare the number of blogs that say the game has racist overtones and the number of blogs that say it doesn't and people are just being overly sensitive. I've seen plenty of white people draping themselves across the altar of martyrdom, playing a full hand of victim cards. It's obscene, really, because when have we as a group ever really been victims of anything in any real sense of the word? Would you honestly trade being a white adult male for any other possible arrangement of age, sex, and race in the world? If not, then righteous indignation is the wrong response.
Did Capcom set out to oppress black people, or encourage others to do so? No. Do all black people look at this and feel offended? No. Is it a sensitive issue? Yes, and that is N'Gai's central argument. Look at the number of comments. People don't turn out in droves to talk about six-month-old trailers unless there's something going on.
Kryptinite
I love you man, but its true. There is alot worst things happening in America and Aftrica than in a RE5 game.
what is this race card everyone talks about pulling? seriously, what is this? So people can't talk about race and how a culture, or even just a subset of a culture, perceives something?
Cheese and crackers guys, I thought we were hardcore? But we can't talk ABOUT race without spouting off defensive knee jerk debate points about how right our precious opinions are?
No one's going to stop you from playing RE5. No game has been successfully boycott into banning. You know how effect Jack Thompson was and he's effing prolific.
Alright I'm with Kryptinite now. Are we done yet?
MaxVest ftw
This is completely crazy, I know it a bit stupid to say this again but i think its a fair point 'why wasn't this an issue when the Spaniards were being killed', when it's black people being killed everyone is up in arms, i think people are still uncomfortable around the idea of saying something or doing something that black people might interpret as racist.
It reminds me of JD from Scrubs - he shits himself someone says 'slave' around black people.
Someone should let N'gai know that the only people that are going to find this racist are the black people who read too far into it, stop trying to convince people who don't see it as racism that it is racist.
I respect the guy immensely and read his blog regularly, but seriously - shut up N'Gai.
In an ideal world, the zombies depicted here would be taken as zombies, not black people. It may sound funny, but the first time I watched, I didn't even realize the implications of this trailer as white against black violence, but only man vs zombie survival.
@ Kryptinite
I'm not making up facts on the fly. I also didn't specify a time period which I should have. I'm not talking about since the dawn of time. I don't know anywhere that shows figures on numbers of blacks killed by white or black people in the 1600's.
However, if you look at just the last 50 years let's say, in just the last FIVE years in ONE are of Africa, 200,000 (and this number has been reported to be as much as 4 times that amount) blacks have been killed by other blacks in Darfur. I'm willing to bet that number alone is a lot greater than how many the KKK killed in the south USA. The kkk figure stands around 3500, and that is going back further than the 50 years I stated.
People need to stop their hobby of being offended. This goes for pretty much everything. People try too hard to be offended.
@Kryptinite: Going to have to agree with JACK of No Trades here. Even in the age of slavery, it was fellow Africans that captured and sold the slaves to the Dutch that were shipped overseas. And with the issues in Africa, millions upon millions have died directly and indirectly from the actions of their fellow Africans, whether it's the wholesale murder of opposing tribes or stealing the food and other supplies sent to impoverished nations to feed an army and let their own people starve to death.
As far as the "LOL, are we done yet?" comment, you don't need to read these articles, but I find it extremely refreshing that we are having sensible discussion on something that was bound to come up at some point in time rather than the typical racism-laden postings typical on most forums where they use racism to troll rather than to actually discuss the issue.
it's fucking startling to see people that don't read or understand what n'gai is saying.
again, it's not about shooting black people. read the original mtv interview before jumping to the conclusion that this is "n'gai going racists himself because his people are being shot in a videogame". it's not about that.
Its not racist.
It looks like imagery from a racially charged era.
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