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im still confused as to why they didn't add in Earth Seeker as well as Fatal Frame 4 or even the upcoming Remake of 2(which is confirmed for EU)
we all know Pandora's Tower is coming to the US no doubt since the translation and localization is already done by Nintendo EU unless they pull another Disaster Days of Crisis, Hotel Dusk Sequel on us.
we all know Pandora's Tower is coming to the US no doubt since the translation and localization is already done by Nintendo EU unless they pull another Disaster Days of Crisis, Hotel Dusk Sequel on us.
I just bought Pandora's Tower a couple of days ago. I literally hadn't even heard it was already out before that. When I heard comparisons to both NieR and Shadow of the Colossus, though, I was completely sold.
Also, because I have all three Operation Rainfall games, Nintendo is going to give me a sort-of-exclusive Coin Set. Pretty rad!
Also, because I have all three Operation Rainfall games, Nintendo is going to give me a sort-of-exclusive Coin Set. Pretty rad!
@princeHeir agree with you 100% on those, especially earthseeker, i loved the look of that game and doesn't look like it's even coming to EU
Wtf. NoA needs to pick up the slack. That coin set most definitely did not kill my boner. Do want.
As for the case, yeah, seems neat. Though I spose I have to first pick up Xenoblade.
As for the case, yeah, seems neat. Though I spose I have to first pick up Xenoblade.
I have to echo sentiments on that coin set. Good job, Nintendo Europe, that's a fantastic looking collectible.
I wish them the best of luck, I'd love to play Pandora's Tower. Sometimes, though, I really wonder what we could accomplish if we could harness the power and enthusiasm of the gaming community for good. Or, pure evil. Either way!
I wish them the best of luck, I'd love to play Pandora's Tower. Sometimes, though, I really wonder what we could accomplish if we could harness the power and enthusiasm of the gaming community for good. Or, pure evil. Either way!
"To own a piece of history that symbolizes fans coming together and getting three JRPGs brought over to the US would be truly amazing."
I don't see why people make as big a deal of this as they do. The US gets far more JRPGs than Europe does and has for some time, missing these three won't kill you, guys.
I love that Rainfall acknowledges Europe now that we have all three, but I'd be more sympathetic to a cause like this if they gave half a crap about us from the start. And they didn't; all of their early rallying cries mentioned the US only.
I don't see why people make as big a deal of this as they do. The US gets far more JRPGs than Europe does and has for some time, missing these three won't kill you, guys.
I love that Rainfall acknowledges Europe now that we have all three, but I'd be more sympathetic to a cause like this if they gave half a crap about us from the start. And they didn't; all of their early rallying cries mentioned the US only.
@Gilgamesh: I think it's really down to how the internet has become a useful tool in influencing companies. With so many ways to get your voice heard through an appealing grassroots way, in such a manner that has never been achieved before, then people feel like they have a modicum of input with products they would like to see.
I don't mind that, if the product is good or of some value. Unfortunately, it does spring forth some ugly issues of entitlement and abuse. Yes, it can veer into something utterly self-serving, too.
A minor personal annoyance: I do wish gamers put this much effort into local politics, though. You see all that effort being put in, all that support to get a collective voice heard, then you realise it's for a video game. Meh, way of the world, and all that.
I don't mind that, if the product is good or of some value. Unfortunately, it does spring forth some ugly issues of entitlement and abuse. Yes, it can veer into something utterly self-serving, too.
A minor personal annoyance: I do wish gamers put this much effort into local politics, though. You see all that effort being put in, all that support to get a collective voice heard, then you realise it's for a video game. Meh, way of the world, and all that.
I'm kinda skeptical about whether donating to them so they can pitch the game to publishers will actually work, but man do I want that special case. >.>
@ PrinceHeir -I think Earth Seeker was left out because it wasn't published by Nintendo. That's one of the things all the OP Rainfall games have in common.
There were all fairly recent releases, where Fatal Frame 4 was already old news by the time they got going. I'd love for them to take on Fatal Frame 2 and 4 next though.
There were all fairly recent releases, where Fatal Frame 4 was already old news by the time they got going. I'd love for them to take on Fatal Frame 2 and 4 next though.
Why do we have to beg Nintendo to give us incentive to not pirate their game? Please Nintendo, please give me the opportunity to pay you for your amazing game. Seems a bit pathetic...
Donated 20 dollars. Not so crazy about the games or the case, just the cause. Gamers to do things like this more often.
Cool. Pandora's Tower is the one I was waiting for. Though when I have funds I'd love to get a copy of Xenoblade.
Damn, that box is slick as hell. I would donate if I cared about JRPGs. Hopefully they can make the sequel to Hotel Dusk and Ace Attorney Investigations 2 happen.
I don't like how the box reads "Operation Rainfall Presents An Epic Collection", as if they're claiming responsibility for its creation. They didn't make these games nor are they entirely responsible for its localization anywhere.
While I respect their dedication to get this last game stateside, it's a BIG waste of our money. Do they not think these companies who specialize in localizing JRPGs have not tried to get the rights to the game from Nintendo. I bet they have. Problem is what Nintendo wants in form of a licensing fee probably doesn't add up to profitable for any of the mentioned companies.
On top of that, they may be waiting to see how Last Story and Xenoblade do before they throw money at Pandora. Don't count the game out from coming here, but I don't think Operation Rainfall is going to tell any of these companies things they don't already know.
On top of that, they may be waiting to see how Last Story and Xenoblade do before they throw money at Pandora. Don't count the game out from coming here, but I don't think Operation Rainfall is going to tell any of these companies things they don't already know.
@Wesley
Yeah, I agree completely. After I've had some time to think about it, it just gets weirder and weirder to me that they're trying this. I don't want to repeat anything you've said, so I'll just say that I agree with all your points.
However, I do like their ambition, and I do still think it's cool they're going to do this. Maybe they're going the wrong way about it, and maybe it's pointless. But fuck it, I'm excited to see if it works or not.
Yeah, I agree completely. After I've had some time to think about it, it just gets weirder and weirder to me that they're trying this. I don't want to repeat anything you've said, so I'll just say that I agree with all your points.
However, I do like their ambition, and I do still think it's cool they're going to do this. Maybe they're going the wrong way about it, and maybe it's pointless. But fuck it, I'm excited to see if it works or not.
I really hope they know that they probably had nothing to do with Xenoblade and Last Story released other then proving to publishers that gamers are whiny and misguided.
The fact that they need to ask for donations when they can't come up with the money amongst themselves is sad..
The fact that they're going to give people a slip cover to hold all 3 games, as if they own the rights to all 3 games simply because they fought for them, is egotistical.
"The only catch is this plan is not a guaranteed thing, and the donations will be used as they come in."
Problem is that no donation based anything is an absolute, that fact is not limited to just these guys. And I'm fairly sure theres no refunds on donations usually.. But I'm probably wrong there.
Plus... THESE GUYS AREN'T MAKING THE GAME.. They're pitching hypotheticals to companies on something THEY DON'T OWN THE RIGHTS TO. Seriously, what they're doing should be illegal.
"It seems weird to me that Operation Rainfall is going this way about it.."
In a way its not.. They really didn't have personal success with getting the other titles here, I believe 100% that Nintendo just finally did it on their own, and that shows in how Nintendo only bothered to half ass their releases then thinking they'd be strong enough for a real one.
Now that Rainfall is seeing the Kickstarter craze taking off they figure they can jump on it, but it a way that's completely stupid. If they were raising the money to send to the Pandora's Tower team with a note saying "this needs to be used to pitch the game to publishers for the west, and only that" then yeah, it'd be nice.. But they're basically going rogue at this point, and frankly I don't know how anyone can trust that they'll really get results when they have NOTHING to do with the game beyond wanting it released this, ridiculously, bad. Just cause they may get one of these companies to agree to publish it, doesn't mean the Pandora team even agrees with the terms at all.
"Besides, what's a measly $10 for a great cause?"
Now say that another 20 times, for a plethora of games, without realizing it adds up -you just missed your rent and those games may still never be released. Its hardly a great cause when the developers should be doing this themselves -And seriously, what about the fact that they haven't?
The fact that they need to ask for donations when they can't come up with the money amongst themselves is sad..
The fact that they're going to give people a slip cover to hold all 3 games, as if they own the rights to all 3 games simply because they fought for them, is egotistical.
"The only catch is this plan is not a guaranteed thing, and the donations will be used as they come in."
Problem is that no donation based anything is an absolute, that fact is not limited to just these guys. And I'm fairly sure theres no refunds on donations usually.. But I'm probably wrong there.
Plus... THESE GUYS AREN'T MAKING THE GAME.. They're pitching hypotheticals to companies on something THEY DON'T OWN THE RIGHTS TO. Seriously, what they're doing should be illegal.
"It seems weird to me that Operation Rainfall is going this way about it.."
In a way its not.. They really didn't have personal success with getting the other titles here, I believe 100% that Nintendo just finally did it on their own, and that shows in how Nintendo only bothered to half ass their releases then thinking they'd be strong enough for a real one.
Now that Rainfall is seeing the Kickstarter craze taking off they figure they can jump on it, but it a way that's completely stupid. If they were raising the money to send to the Pandora's Tower team with a note saying "this needs to be used to pitch the game to publishers for the west, and only that" then yeah, it'd be nice.. But they're basically going rogue at this point, and frankly I don't know how anyone can trust that they'll really get results when they have NOTHING to do with the game beyond wanting it released this, ridiculously, bad. Just cause they may get one of these companies to agree to publish it, doesn't mean the Pandora team even agrees with the terms at all.
"Besides, what's a measly $10 for a great cause?"
Now say that another 20 times, for a plethora of games, without realizing it adds up -you just missed your rent and those games may still never be released. Its hardly a great cause when the developers should be doing this themselves -And seriously, what about the fact that they haven't?
Even though I highly doubt this will make a difference--for reasons others have already pointed out--I might donate $10 anyways just so I can get that sweet collectors case. (And I don't even own any of the games yet.)
@LK4O4:
It doesn't make me feel any better that their ego has inflated as such that they could write that on even a preliminary design at all and not get any objections for it, just as I predicted.
It doesn't make me feel any better that their ego has inflated as such that they could write that on even a preliminary design at all and not get any objections for it, just as I predicted.
@ Tobalito
According to VGChartz (no idea how accurate that is nowadays... wasn't that great afore) it's at 200k, which is more than any of the other territories. While not a stellar hit that's pretty good considering what it cost, hell even to develop :<
According to VGChartz (no idea how accurate that is nowadays... wasn't that great afore) it's at 200k, which is more than any of the other territories. While not a stellar hit that's pretty good considering what it cost, hell even to develop :<
@ Booming
Jeez, way to get emotional about it. Just so you know, you're bitching and whining about people bitching and whining. Now there isn't a problem with that but you're saying it like it's a bad thing (like I'm bitching/whining about you bitching/whinning about rainfall people bitching/whinning). Hell (:P) if you go by the bible humanity pretty much got it it's place because of our excellent ability to bitch and whine. So first, chill out :P Them caps make you look real angry.
Second, you have no idea if they had a notable impact. Maybe all their posturing about and doing letters and crap could have done nothing, but it's pretty fair to say that at least it showed pubbies that there is a clear dedicated fanbase that is interested in the game hence a decent % of them purchasing it.
Third: Asking for money, the whole posting aspect of Rainfall is like, one guy. He is pretty much asking other Rainfall members to donate money, if you want to that's fine but it's essentially Rainfall pulling together their money.
Also just FYI Nintendo is not publishing Last Story, so Nintendo did not "finally do it on it's own." And the gamestop exclusive deal led a lot of people to believe that they somehow had a hand in the NA port of Xenoblade, but who knows.
4th, people make shit for games they had nothing to do with all the time, Fangamer, billions of tshirts (even dtoid has some), whatever nobody cares it's not like they're claiming they made the game.
As for your last comment about how devs should be doing this. Why? It's not like they have any of the rights anyways. It belongs to the publishers. This isn't the old days :| Pubbies own the rights to the games most of the time now (unfortunately :/).
+ I'd imagine what Rainfall is doing is extremely flattering to the developers (who nowadays usually get nothing but shit from gamers and things like this). So seriously, what is the harm? Why does it matter? It's not like you are pained by them doing any such thing, you move a long and be happy that you kept your money in your pocket to spend on something else ;p
Jeez, way to get emotional about it. Just so you know, you're bitching and whining about people bitching and whining. Now there isn't a problem with that but you're saying it like it's a bad thing (like I'm bitching/whining about you bitching/whinning about rainfall people bitching/whinning). Hell (:P) if you go by the bible humanity pretty much got it it's place because of our excellent ability to bitch and whine. So first, chill out :P Them caps make you look real angry.
Second, you have no idea if they had a notable impact. Maybe all their posturing about and doing letters and crap could have done nothing, but it's pretty fair to say that at least it showed pubbies that there is a clear dedicated fanbase that is interested in the game hence a decent % of them purchasing it.
Third: Asking for money, the whole posting aspect of Rainfall is like, one guy. He is pretty much asking other Rainfall members to donate money, if you want to that's fine but it's essentially Rainfall pulling together their money.
Also just FYI Nintendo is not publishing Last Story, so Nintendo did not "finally do it on it's own." And the gamestop exclusive deal led a lot of people to believe that they somehow had a hand in the NA port of Xenoblade, but who knows.
4th, people make shit for games they had nothing to do with all the time, Fangamer, billions of tshirts (even dtoid has some), whatever nobody cares it's not like they're claiming they made the game.
As for your last comment about how devs should be doing this. Why? It's not like they have any of the rights anyways. It belongs to the publishers. This isn't the old days :| Pubbies own the rights to the games most of the time now (unfortunately :/).
+ I'd imagine what Rainfall is doing is extremely flattering to the developers (who nowadays usually get nothing but shit from gamers and things like this). So seriously, what is the harm? Why does it matter? It's not like you are pained by them doing any such thing, you move a long and be happy that you kept your money in your pocket to spend on something else ;p
Oh and yes technically it is illegal if they go with the copyrighted game logos on the box, but tons of stuff like that happens everyday and pubbies don't care cause it's not worth it and they're not making money it.
Guess I really should get around to playing my EU copy of pandora tower. Incidentally, Europe actually did get a special slipcase for all 3 games as well as a small artbook containging additional art from all 3. And if that wasn't enough, club Nintendo are allowing owners of all 3 games to purchase a special commemorative box containing 3 gold coins representing each of the games if they register all 3 on their site. And we didn't even have to whine, though the previous decades of doing so after being treated as second class gamers by nintendo probably helped.
@GundamJehutyKai:
Exactly. American gamers can't be happy for anyone, least of all Europe. Why can't they just take one for the team once in a while?
Exactly. American gamers can't be happy for anyone, least of all Europe. Why can't they just take one for the team once in a while?
The Wii has many original, fun and hardcore games. It's too bad that your average humanoid is a dumbshit that follows the herd and can only play games that depict real life war settings. Oh well. I know my Wii collection can go toe to toe with any other Nintendo console, so they still got the magic touch.
@ Excel
Please tell me when we said we aren't happy for you? It's not like Americans are saying NO EUROPE SHOULDN'T GET SHIT IF WE DON'T GET IT. Just said we wish we had it too.
Get off your horse, Americans don't hate Europeans or anything. It's not like we don't consider it a shame you guys don't get the same games.
Please tell me when we said we aren't happy for you? It's not like Americans are saying NO EUROPE SHOULDN'T GET SHIT IF WE DON'T GET IT. Just said we wish we had it too.
Get off your horse, Americans don't hate Europeans or anything. It's not like we don't consider it a shame you guys don't get the same games.
@Dao2-SKP:
You have that backward. I said America can't be happy for Europe, not Europe can't be happy for America. America gets too much good stuff for Europe to sit back and envy.
You have that backward. I said America can't be happy for Europe, not Europe can't be happy for America. America gets too much good stuff for Europe to sit back and envy.
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