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Only Operation Rainfall thought that Operation Rainfall had anything to do with this.
That said, I respect OR for their efforts as long as the outcome is positive.
That said, I respect OR for their efforts as long as the outcome is positive.
actually i kinda agree, heck when they already announced the games for Europe i already knew the titles would have a good chance of being localize in the US(since the localization is pretty much done)
though operation rainfall did provide a good amount exposure for these 3 titles. so that's good :P
it's a shame the group didn't add more than those three. i would have believe with the operation if they added more titles like Fatal Frame IV, Earth Seeker, Another Code R, Disaster Day of Crisis, Nanashi No Game.
if they had pulled with Fatal Frame IV i would definitely praise the people that started the group.
though operation rainfall did provide a good amount exposure for these 3 titles. so that's good :P
it's a shame the group didn't add more than those three. i would have believe with the operation if they added more titles like Fatal Frame IV, Earth Seeker, Another Code R, Disaster Day of Crisis, Nanashi No Game.
if they had pulled with Fatal Frame IV i would definitely praise the people that started the group.
so the interest operation rainfall generated had nothing to do with it? I'm pretty sure number of potential customers is one of the defining factors.I certainly had not heard of the game before operation rainfall and am now planning to purchase it.
Calling BS on this.
Calling BS on this.
Ah Japanesse business, so much pride, can't let that glory go to waste on Rainfall.
Someone just had to say "no, it was all me!"
Someone just had to say "no, it was all me!"
From the article:
"XSEED's prerequisites:
1. It has to be a great title.
2. It has to have some market potential in North America.
3. It has to be something that entire company is passionate about."
Is this asshole really implying that Operation Rainfall didn't secure number 2? I don't care about this game but this industry is full of assholes taking credit for shit that gamers put forth.
"XSEED's prerequisites:
1. It has to be a great title.
2. It has to have some market potential in North America.
3. It has to be something that entire company is passionate about."
Is this asshole really implying that Operation Rainfall didn't secure number 2? I don't care about this game but this industry is full of assholes taking credit for shit that gamers put forth.
Should matter to anyone what the reason was. People are going to get to play a game they wanted to play. That's as much as anyone needs to concern themselves with at this point. There's really no need for any back-patting, the reward is the game.
I certainly would not have purchased or even heard of Xenoblade Chronicles without Operation Rainfall and the exposure they brought to it. Same goes for The Last Story. I hope Pandora's Tower and other Wii games that have yet to be published here come over, because the Wii deserves a couple of swan songs. Anyway, props to Operation Rainfall for their efforts and XSEED for publishing The Last Story; at least we're finally getting the game!
I've said it once, and I'm going to say it again, but I refuse to give Operation Rainfall any credit when it comes to getting this and Xenoblade Chronicles over here for two reasons:
1. Nintendo of America didn't really have much of a choice in bringing Xenoblade Chronicles over. Seriously, other than Xenoblade, what else did they have for the Wii, Rhythm Heaven Fever? To not allow these games to be released in the States would be a stupid finical decision (especially since it did REALLY well in Europe).
2. A good chunk of the members of Operation Rainfall were massive pricks. I understand that people wanted these games to come out in the states, but if there's one thing I learned about getting what you it's this: calling someone a fag for not getting something you want isn't going to make it said thing come faster.
Yes I admit it was great for these games to get coverage, but I wouldn't exactly give these guys a pat on the back just because a few games they were asking for happened to come out, and with this interview, I feel like I'm not the only one who shares this sentiment.
1. Nintendo of America didn't really have much of a choice in bringing Xenoblade Chronicles over. Seriously, other than Xenoblade, what else did they have for the Wii, Rhythm Heaven Fever? To not allow these games to be released in the States would be a stupid finical decision (especially since it did REALLY well in Europe).
2. A good chunk of the members of Operation Rainfall were massive pricks. I understand that people wanted these games to come out in the states, but if there's one thing I learned about getting what you it's this: calling someone a fag for not getting something you want isn't going to make it said thing come faster.
Yes I admit it was great for these games to get coverage, but I wouldn't exactly give these guys a pat on the back just because a few games they were asking for happened to come out, and with this interview, I feel like I'm not the only one who shares this sentiment.
Tristrix, so you're obviously the super-ego. I'd say Jim is the Id. I'm still trying to figure out who the ego is, any thoughts?
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Sayword. That guy is pure instinct and drive. Probably why his comments are so fun to read.
Sayword. That guy is pure instinct and drive. Probably why his comments are so fun to read.
Wait, no. You said ego, not id. Dale North then. He's got the drive of Sterling, but a more measured approach.
Who cares. The game is coming, isn't it? And Operation Rainfall was worth it for the exposure they gave to these games. I'm not sure I would have heard of them without OR. I'm just happy XSEED decided to bring this here.
@drippingsins: I just finished "Sakura Wars: So Long My Love" for the Wii and PS2. Fantastic 20 or so hour game, one of my all time favorites now.
I don't credit Operation Rainfall with getting the games localized, but I will give them credit for raising awareness for them in the US. Hopefully they sell better thanks to the free marketing and social push that they have been doing for Nintendo... because god knows THEY won't run ads for these games.
Nintendo have their own set of rules huh? I guess not listening to thousands of fans is one of them. Good show Nintendo, always sinking lower and lower.
If it weren't for OR, I wouldn't be buying this game, or Xenoblade.
With that said, OR was a success.
With that said, OR was a success.
This is a Tweet from XSEED to Operation Rainfall in response to this interview:
XSEED Games @XSEEDGames
@OpRainfall TLS met all of our requirements for pursuing it, but OpRain is an asset to the JRPG movement as a whole. They know what's up.
Doesn't sound like XSEED thinks Operation Rainfall is completely useless.
XSEED Games @XSEEDGames
@OpRainfall TLS met all of our requirements for pursuing it, but OpRain is an asset to the JRPG movement as a whole. They know what's up.
Doesn't sound like XSEED thinks Operation Rainfall is completely useless.
Here's some food for thought. Nintendo of America reluctantly released Xenoblade in the US and it has sold over 200 000 copies. Rhythm Heaven Fever on the other hand it had no problem in bringing over and it sold has 30 000 copies (VGchartz numbers, take that as you will).
If those numbers are correct it just proves how fucked up Nintendo of America's decisions sometimes are.
If those numbers are correct it just proves how fucked up Nintendo of America's decisions sometimes are.
So, in essence, when it's time to show interest in a game, what we ought to do is send the letters to Atlus, XSEED, etc. as well as Nintendo?
I'm good with that. Send the letters to everyone instead of just one company. It's a better way to put it in the minds of people who have the power to negotiate the release of these games.
As for OpRain...I don't really care who takes the credit, as long as I get the game in the end. I did thank them on their FB page though, because I don't buy for a minute that Ken Barry wasn't aware of OpRain when the stray thought of "Hey, this game seems interesting, let's have a look" crossed his mind. They brought awareness of these games in an organized, mature fashion. They represented how gamers can band together and rally for something in a way that doesn't make me puke in my soup.
Which is more than I can say for the Mass Effect 3 people. Thanks to them I fear the vocal minority.
Either way, thank you newfound passion for the Japanese language. Localizing games will be a thing of the past in a few years.
I'm good with that. Send the letters to everyone instead of just one company. It's a better way to put it in the minds of people who have the power to negotiate the release of these games.
As for OpRain...I don't really care who takes the credit, as long as I get the game in the end. I did thank them on their FB page though, because I don't buy for a minute that Ken Barry wasn't aware of OpRain when the stray thought of "Hey, this game seems interesting, let's have a look" crossed his mind. They brought awareness of these games in an organized, mature fashion. They represented how gamers can band together and rally for something in a way that doesn't make me puke in my soup.
Which is more than I can say for the Mass Effect 3 people. Thanks to them I fear the vocal minority.
Either way, thank you newfound passion for the Japanese language. Localizing games will be a thing of the past in a few years.
It's disingenuous to say Opartion Rainfall was not a factor, as it was a fan movement and fan demand (along with thetremendous negative feedback NOA got for not publishing these ganes) is often a tremendous factor in bringing over a game.
And fan demand = garunteed money if youre wise. It might be chump change to Nintendo, but not the likes of XSeed or Atlus.
Just to put it in perspective Altus' biggest seller's are Catherine and Demon's Souls, which never broke a million, but did sell over 500k copies. For such a small studio with lower budgets, those are huge returns.
Who wouldn't want a shot at that if a large US publisher turned it down? It's practically free money.
And fan demand = garunteed money if youre wise. It might be chump change to Nintendo, but not the likes of XSeed or Atlus.
Just to put it in perspective Altus' biggest seller's are Catherine and Demon's Souls, which never broke a million, but did sell over 500k copies. For such a small studio with lower budgets, those are huge returns.
Who wouldn't want a shot at that if a large US publisher turned it down? It's practically free money.
Bullshit.
Maybe from XSEED's perspective, OR had nothing to do with it, but Nintendo knew damn well that they were being shat on by people who wanted the game, because that went on for months, and all the major gaming sites posted multiple articles about it. They're oblivious, but they're not that oblivious. XSEED coming in and asking to publish it might have been a happy coincidence, but they needed to offload the game on someone just for the good PR.
Maybe from XSEED's perspective, OR had nothing to do with it, but Nintendo knew damn well that they were being shat on by people who wanted the game, because that went on for months, and all the major gaming sites posted multiple articles about it. They're oblivious, but they're not that oblivious. XSEED coming in and asking to publish it might have been a happy coincidence, but they needed to offload the game on someone just for the good PR.
I'm just going to buy and play the game when it comes out. I dont care if OR gets credit for localizing the game, I give OR credit for simply existing as fans with similar interests in JRPG's.
So, the lesson I should take from this is.... That nothing I do matters so I should just buy the game used?
Oh well I was too lazy to bother actively participating in Operation Rainfall, I guess that means I'm too lazy to bother canceling my pre-order.
Oh well I was too lazy to bother actively participating in Operation Rainfall, I guess that means I'm too lazy to bother canceling my pre-order.
It is interesting to see this article, and see all the gaming sites explode this one little comment. There are a lot of factors to the answer; in my opinion, he is talking about his reasoning to localize The Last Story in the first place- which I believe, because The Last Story is worth it for the pedigree alone- Final Fantasy creator and music writer together in one game that has the potential to be like the next Final Fantasy?
It is Nintendo's fault -for not picking this game up sooner- that operation rainfall had to form so that we could be sure that they knew we wanted to play this and the other two games.
Even if XSEED denies any involvement that Operation Rainfall had in bringing about this game, whether that be the actual reason to localize, or merely the buildup of hype that equates to better sales- as a member of the OpRainfall team, I'm pretty satisfied in what has been accomplished. Our real job was to make sure these types of games don't slip under the radar- and in that sense, we were successful.
It is Nintendo's fault -for not picking this game up sooner- that operation rainfall had to form so that we could be sure that they knew we wanted to play this and the other two games.
Even if XSEED denies any involvement that Operation Rainfall had in bringing about this game, whether that be the actual reason to localize, or merely the buildup of hype that equates to better sales- as a member of the OpRainfall team, I'm pretty satisfied in what has been accomplished. Our real job was to make sure these types of games don't slip under the radar- and in that sense, we were successful.
Chiming in as most people. I wasn't part of operation rainfall so I don't exactly have a vested in them succeeding but I'm pretty sure they helped get this game over. Directly influencing maybe not but they showed there's a market and got the word out. It's a fair chance I could have heard of the games in the end but fact is I might not have and the first I heard of it was through OR.
check the OR, you like it so far?
check the OR, you like it so far?
check the OR, you'll love the OR.
thank you, Organized Rhyme, for the localization of these games. thank you.
check the OR, you like it so far?
check the OR, you'll love the OR.
thank you, Organized Rhyme, for the localization of these games. thank you.
#1.) LIES. If you had plans to bring Last Story to US in lieu of OR's campaign, you would not have waited so long to announce.
#2.) OR should focus on campaigning to get this game on a system that is actually still relevant. This game is gonna have shitty sales because of its insistence on being a Wii-exclusive.
#2.) OR should focus on campaigning to get this game on a system that is actually still relevant. This game is gonna have shitty sales because of its insistence on being a Wii-exclusive.
The Last Story I can see, but I doubt people were just interested in brining pandoras tower over, I think O.R. had something to do with that
It's a good thing Operation Rainfall released an official statement claiming responsibility for bringing The Last Story here.
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Yeah, suuuuuuuurrrrre they didn't. That's why XSEED totally picked up the game in the months after its Japanese release and before Operation Rainfall, right?
While there's no one entity or group that can be "credited" with getting multiple games green-lighted for North America (assuming they were never, ever going to be, which no one can verify), it would be foolish to completely disregard Operation Rainfall's impact.
Granted, Nintendo doesn't give a crap what anyone actually wants, but Operation Rainfall was probably an effective card for some executive to play during a meeting somewhere. No one can counter with "Ah, nobody wants those games, there's no interest."
Granted, Nintendo doesn't give a crap what anyone actually wants, but Operation Rainfall was probably an effective card for some executive to play during a meeting somewhere. No one can counter with "Ah, nobody wants those games, there's no interest."
I hope WiiU is doomed if they didn't bring Monolith Soft RPG (this one is confirmed they make 2 RPG at the moment, WiiU and 3DS), possible Mistwalker RPG (They had interest), possible Ganbarion (I made up this one) in human language.
Xseed own prerequisites: It has to have some market potential in North America. In other words, who is likely to purchase the game. Operation Rainfall is obviously a factor in that whether they want to admit it or not.
Do you ever ask yourself why movie studios produce so many remakes or movies based on comic books and take so few risks? They want guaranteed audience members. For example: The Marvel Comics fan-base most likely went to see Ironman, Thor, Captain America, and the Avengers films opening night.
By raising awareness, Operation Rainfall probably increased the Last Story's fan-base, which increase Xseed's potential customers and made it a more profitable piece of business. So do not tell me it did not matter.
Anyway, I'm very happy Xseed decided to localize the game.
Do you ever ask yourself why movie studios produce so many remakes or movies based on comic books and take so few risks? They want guaranteed audience members. For example: The Marvel Comics fan-base most likely went to see Ironman, Thor, Captain America, and the Avengers films opening night.
By raising awareness, Operation Rainfall probably increased the Last Story's fan-base, which increase Xseed's potential customers and made it a more profitable piece of business. So do not tell me it did not matter.
Anyway, I'm very happy Xseed decided to localize the game.
thanks xseed. glad to know us gamers don't matter, and all that matters is industry people and whatever games you decide to bless us with.
i have a feeling Op Rainfall did have an impact, it definitely raised the profile of those 3 games. but i think xseed is looking for a little glory here. kinda shitty they cant throw the fans a bone, or bother to localize anything good. samurai showdown sen? valhalla knights? for reals? "passion"? how about getting grand knight history or suikoden psp or 7th dragon or do only have "passion" for shitty games?
i have a feeling Op Rainfall did have an impact, it definitely raised the profile of those 3 games. but i think xseed is looking for a little glory here. kinda shitty they cant throw the fans a bone, or bother to localize anything good. samurai showdown sen? valhalla knights? for reals? "passion"? how about getting grand knight history or suikoden psp or 7th dragon or do only have "passion" for shitty games?
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