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I got into various arguments with people this weekend who justified Final Fantasy fans hating the Xbox 360 because it apparently "ruined" Square Enix's latest hundred-hour monstrosity. Now, there's no denying that Final Fantasy XIII has its share of problems. Ahead of our review, I can tell you that this game boasts a variety of disappointing elements. However, there are those who legitimately blame the Xbox 360 and demonize it as the heart of XIII's troubles. After debating with several of these individuals, I have concluded that such people obviously know nothing about the game's development. 

There are many legitimate reasons to dislike the 360. The shoddy hardware, the Xbox Live Gold scam, Microsoft's insistence on controlling and restricting as much user freedom as it can; the list goes on. But to despise the Xbox 360 because you think it ruined Final Fantasy XIII is perhaps one of the stupidest, most ignorant things you can do. You are, officially, a moron.

Read on to find out why you are so stupid.

Apparently, Final Fantasy XIII's problems are all due to the fact that the Xbox 360 is immeasurably inferior to the PlayStation 3. According to these people, the 360 simply couldn't handle this ultimate version of XIII that doesn't exist, and because of the 360's weakness, Square Enix scaled back its game, made it more linear, and spread the development thin in order to cater for both systems. 

What bullshit. 

It's hard to know where to begin in tearing this fallacy apart, but let's start with Square Enix itself, and its multiple assurances that the PS3 version was not gimped to make it run on an Xbox 360. Square Enix has explained, time and time again, that the PlayStation 3 version of the game was developed first, and then it was ported to the Xbox 360. Apparently, people think Square Enix has been lying through its teeth the whole time, but we can certainly see evidence that the PS3 version was always intended to be the lead version. Just compare the two games. Final Fantasy XIII looks better on the PS3, by all accounts, and I'd find it nearly impossible to say that the graphics were scaled back at all. The PS3 version of Final Fantasy XIII is one of the most beautiful games I have ever seen, if not the most amazing looking console game to date. I'd even put it ahead of Uncharted 2 in terms of how huge and beautiful it looks. 

You can't really argue that you're getting a bum deal, visually, when XIII is the most gorgeous looking game on the home console market. What more do you want? It's hard to imagine Final Fantasy XIII looking better, and if you're seriously crying because it doesn't look better, then you are the dictionary definition of a spoiled brat. You're like somebody who got a golden elephant encrusted with fine jewels for Christmas, and threw it out because he thought its crystal testicles weren't round enough. 

A fair few believe that the gameplay itself was affected by the Xbox 360, and again I have to call foul on this ridiculous assumption. Bear in mind that Final Fantasy XIII was officially announced in 2006, and obviously development had started on the game much sooner than the announcement. In fact, the game was originally in development for the PlayStation 2. The Xbox 360 version was announced in 2008, two years after the game was announced and a whole generation apart from when development had begun. 

Now, looking at when development on XIII started and when it was revealed for the Xbox 360, can you honestly believe that the very fundamentals of the game were not already in place before the 360 version was decided? The game had been developed for PS3 long, long before it was finally planned for the Xbox 360, so if you think that the game wasn't already going to be linear and restricted before coming to 360, you're a fucking tool. 

Square Enix itself has already revealed why the game is so tight and linear, and that's because of the challenges of making a game in high-definition. The budget for any HD current-gen game is already astronomical, let alone an HD current-gen RPG intended to last at least thirty hours. Director Yoshinori Kitase has already stated in the past that making a high-definition RPG is incredibly difficult, and that this was the reason for much of the content being scrapped. If you look at it that way, you could almost blame the PS3 for XIII's limitations. If the PS3 wasn't so damn good, Square Enix wouldn't have had to make such a great looking game and sink so much time and money into the graphics, concentrating instead on making a bigger and better title.  

Of course, that's the real crux of the issue. It's not really the PS3 or the Xbox 360's fault. The blame lies squarely at the feet of Square Enix itself. It was Square Enix that decided Final Fantasy XIII had to have a brand new battle system that mostly plays itself. It was Square Enix that decided to focus on graphics above everything else, putting visuals on a pedestal and worrying about gameplay and story as a distant second and third. It was Square Enix that insisted on making the White Engine, having to build a whole new game engine from the ground up before it could get to work on XIII itself. Finally, it was Square Enix that developed, and continues to develop, too many games at once, spreading its teams too thin because it wants to make three different Final Fantasy XIII titles, as well as Final Fantasy XIV, all at the same time.

You want to blame something for Final Fantasy XIII's issues, then you blame the people who were responsible. You blame Square Enix. Don't go making a boogie man out of a hunk of plastic and wires because you're too lazy and unimaginative to actually consider why the game has its problems. Square Enix made all the decisions here. It decided how to develop XIII, and it decided what systems to develop it for. Making a villain of a single game console, simply for existing, because your game isn't everything you thought it could be is fucking ridiculous, and you really are stupid if you sincerely believe that the 360 is the cause of XIII's woes. There are so many other factors to consider than "Wah wah the Xbox 360 is ten billion times worse than the PS3 which I have mistaken for some sort of processing God" and it's dismaying to see other, considerably more troublesome issues getting ignored. 

Focusing on graphics over gameplay is a serious problem this generation, and that problem is exacerbated by so-called Final Fantasy fans demanding better visuals and then complaining when the game lacks a massive overworld. The way Square Enix made Final Fantasy XIII was simply wrong, and the game's biggest faults aren't even technical ones. It's not the Xbox 360's fault that XIII's plot is borderline incomprehensible, that the characters are boring at best and annoying at worst, or that the battle system is so complicated and convoluted that most of the control is wrested from the player so they can concentrate on making sure nobody's HP drops below 0. These are all design issues, not hardware restrictions. 

And if future Final Fantasy games are just as bad, you won't even be able to blame Square Enix anymore. You'll have nobody to blame but yourself. Yourself, because you chose to focus all your criticism on a machine that was completely unrelated to the root of XIII's flaws. Yourself, because instead of letting Square Enix know that it fucked up, you only criticize the studio for "betraying the PS3" or being "paid off by Microsoft." Yourself, because you deflected the issue away from Square Enix's developers and onto something that really had no influence whatsoever. 

So remember, when the next traditional Final Fantasy is shit, don't boo the PS3 or the Xbox 360. Boo your stupid fucking self.








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DnC's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 15:34
DnC
Jim, tell us, are/did you enjoying/enjoy Final Fantasy XIII. Does this editorial have anything to do with your contempt with the latest installment?
KieranD's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:04
KieranD
No warning at the bottom. He's srs.

And without reading, I can say I probably agree.
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:04
free touch
Cory, its Jim. he writes articles to troll. Its what he does. Pay him no mind. To prove the point, this article will get roughly 200 replies or more, because he knows how to bait.
Necron117's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:05
Necron117
I choose you Jim! Jim, use angry article attack now!
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:06
Monodi
I wonder what they would blame if this game was never ported.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:06
Jim Sterling
Cory, it's free touch. He posts comments to tell people I troll. It's what he does. Pay him no mind. In fact, that seems to be all he does lately.
Alxariam's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:07
Alxariam
Haters gonna hate. Fanboys gonna be fanboys.
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:07
Strandli
My inner fanboy was worried if the 360 version would affect the game, but I don't think it has. The main problems with the game was it's gameplay, which is in no way related to the technical differences between the two versions.
Also, they didn't make the PS3 game uglier so it would match the 360, but they let the PS3 be superior, which is most noticeable in the quality of the cutscenes.

Bottom line, the PS3 version is as good as it would have been, no matter the multiplatform treatment. Easy as that.
ohno's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:07
ohno
While I haven't seen one person make this complaint...sure.
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:08
free touch
Just calling them like i see them Jim. Why dont you do another article about how pirates are destroying the industry, and then bitch about getting another free game or swag from a company for "review".
Conan-san's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:08
Conan-san
The correct response to anyone going "THE XBOX RUINED FFXIII" is to say "Yes, and I'm playing it right now on my XBOX!" followed by that "yay!" sound Cartman made whilst swimming in Kyle's money in that one episode of South Park.
Evergreen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:08
Evergreen
I don't think I have ever cared about a Final Fantasy title. This one is no different.

/pointless contribution
JiR INC's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:09
JiR INC
Jim's fed up with the vast majority of peeps that are just whining over nothing and I fully agree with him
BlackSunEmpire's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:09
BlackSunEmpire
Oh hell, can a get a captain obvious??

And a shitstorm, I really need one of those.
Jack8274's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:09
Jack8274
@free touch

You don't see any of the hypocrisy in that statement, do you douchebag?!
aneishka's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:09
aneishka
Excellent article Jim. So FF13 was in dev for the ps2 originally? Kinda makes you wonder.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:10
Jon B
This article will help me a lot in dispelling trolls determined to insist this.

For that, I thank you for the article.
Even though most say "Oh it's Jim, he's just trolling" as usual, but in that case they're not worth dealing with.

Also inb4 3 million replies.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:10
Tubatic
"It's not the Xbox 360's fault that XIII's plot is borderline incomprehensible, that the characters are boring at best and annoying at worst, or that the battle system is so complicated and convoluted that most of the control is wrested from the player so they can concentrate on making sure nobody's HP drops below 0."

Sooo... you're having a good time then?
KwikPwn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:10
KwikPwn
Throws pipe bomb at upcoming horde.
RichardBlaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:11
RichardBlaine
I want a golden elephant for Christmas. Roundness of the crystal testicles is unimportant (since I'm not spoiled).
GundamJehutyKai's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:11
GundamJehutyKai
wait... this article seems somewhat serious...

Something is very wrong here!
KingFaisal94's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:12
KingFaisal94
I agree about the gimped thing and I hate it when fanboys think they should have all the exclusives.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:12
Chronic Logic
That's right whiners, bitch some more. Don't blame the 360. Blame SquareEnixEidos for accepting evil money from Micro$oft instead of righteous money from $ony. Or hell, blame $ony for not being smart/rich enough to bribe SqureEnixEidos. That, or blame God.
oknd's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:12
oknd
Bait or not he's got a point (and I like Jim, I don't have anything against him).


Blaming the Xbox for FF XIII being bad is stupid, it's completely beside the point.
007's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:14
007
I had a friend who tried to blame FF13's suckiness on the Xbox 360. I just shook my head in annoyance and kept on playing the game... on a ps3.
Volcanon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:14
Volcanon
haha this article didn't even seem sarcastic, just an f-u to the spoiled bitch squenix/ps3 fanboys. I applaud you sir.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:14
Naim Master
It's all a big evil plot from Square Enix to make asians like black people.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:14
The Silent Protagonist
Pretty much everything I've every been saying about Final Fantasy Fanboys, PS3 Fanboys and how the PS3 has actually bogged down the quality and scope of the RPGs of this console generation.

It'll get better in time, but after the amazing scope of games like Final Fantasy XII, its disappointing that a system with superior storage and processing power feels so much smaller than what came before. And to think the hype of "uncompressed audio/video" shoulders some of the blame.

PS3 fanboys who seriously believe the loss of quality is due to 360 and go huddle with the Nintendo fanboys that said similar things when the series jumped from Nintendo to Sony. It was like polygons ruined the series in their minds.

of course, I blogged all this ranting about FF fanboys last week.
themizarkshow's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:15
themizarkshow
Glad to see this get some attention. I love the PS3, but I also love my 360. And, although I'm not a fan of the series, it's stupid to think the multiplatform decision killed the game.
isnowbored's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:15
isnowbored
ps3 fanboys are just saying this because its one of the few games that runs better on the ps3.
Bedeage's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:15
Bedeage
+1 what Jim said. Also LOL who is this free touch gimp? :D
Vargas's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:15
Vargas
Ouch. This is was pretty much a preview of the review, eh Jim?
Well, I agree with Jim on this one. Square Enix is not what they used be, unfortunately.
moda00z's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:16
moda00z
one of the best articals jim made :) i was happy when they said its coming to the xbox (i bought it for the ps3 though) it mean more sales so they have another chance for making real final fantasy, why every one is saying that linear is shit in my opinion its the best part in the game
JiR INC's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:16
JiR INC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1lfSzgcAw#movie_player
brundlefly's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:17
brundlefly
It is indeed stupid to blame hardware for restricting a series whose fundamental game mechanics have basically only evolved laterally - still within the capabilities of a SNES.
Volcanon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:18
Volcanon
I am only on the first level, but I already want to punch that black guy in the face. I blame Microsoft for creating racism.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:18
Naim Master
Also, how are Square Enix fans "spoiled"? They have to endure multiple spinoffs raping their favorite games, bad translations, terrible voice actors...
Blue Odeyssey's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:18
Blue Odeyssey
Am I the only one enjoying the game and not comparing it to previous incarnations? I thought that was the point each game is singular and totally different, XIII has improved on some aspects and degraded on others, its still a great game.
Rockefellow's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:19
Rockefellow
I again have to question your graphics comparison. While Final Fantasy 13 is by no means a slouch in the graphics department, and is much better than most games out there, it still has quite a bit of problems. Horrid textures placed in obvious spots(The ground in certain battles, for example), and the cringeworthy change between CGI and the actual game engine are what I'm referring to. While I don't want to sound like the type of person you're portraying here, nor am I blaming the 360, I still can't say this game is the best-looking on a home console, especially with the likes of God of War 3 and Uncharted 2.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:20
pedrovay2003
Yup, I completely agree. Both versions seem to have come out equally, and even if it had remained an exclusive, it wouldn't have been any different.

Also, free touch? Stop talking until you develop some intelligence. Well, unless you'd like to make us laugh some more, that is.
moda00z's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:21
moda00z
totally agree with Blue Odeyssey
Ghouls's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:21
Ghouls
get PZ'ed fanboys. Maybe now the idea of FF being synonymous with Sony will die, much like it should have when someone reminded you the series started on the NES in the first place.
Dynomice's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:23
Dynomice
Damn you and your inconsistent writing styles. I kept rereading sentences to determine whether you were being facetious or not. Look what you've done to me!
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:24
Strandli
If anything, the 360 owners should be blaming PS3 for getting an inferior version. If it wasn't for PS3 having Teh Almighty BluRays, the game would have been designed for DVDs, and would most likely look better on 360.
ohno's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:24
ohno
Also, here's my defense on FFXIII's plot: even if it is incomprehensible, you can at least attempt to suspend your disbelief and go with it. It won't necessarily degrade your opinion of the game if you can accept whatever nonsensical logic it feeds you. Alternatively, plots that make sense aren't necessarily good either. They're better at face value for at least making sense, but not better overall.

Oh, and I like the battle system. It took for-fucking-ever for it to be fun, but now I can't get enough of it. FFXIII has eliminated most of my complaints from most average JRPGs for having invented a few new ideas for turn-based battles.
Jay Me's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:25
Jay Me
Swarovski elephant gonads?
garethxxgod's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:27
garethxxgod
The seas will boil, rivers will run red and the moon shall fall....all because I agree with Jim Sterling

Though I really don't think there's that much wrong with the game. Sure I don't think it lends itself well to newcomers for the first few hours but if your a diehard like me you should be satisfied.
El Edito's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:27
El Edito
From a personal standpoint, I can see how many of the traditionalists would want to vent their disdain for the apparent 'gimping' of FFXIII.

May I say though, I absolutely loved FFX and its easily my favourite of them all (closely followed by FFIX). The whining about 'townz' etc really arent doing anything to diminish my enjoyment of the game and honestly, those people panning it would more than likely be the first ones complaining if the game had been scaled back in order to make it more like one of the earlier games.
Jeff Cusack's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:28
Jeff Cusack
Wasn't FFXIII developed on the PC using crystal tools so that it could be ported independantly to both the PS3 and 360 so there wouldn't be any messy cross-console porting problems?
grafkhun's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 16:28
grafkhun
The xbox 360 ruined FFXIII and Christmas actually.
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