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the pc version is going to tank anyways, but i love steam i don't see why anyone would have a personal grudge against now that it works great and offers great deals on games, and updates your games for you and has a friend list and so on. Steam is awesome
Well, although it sucks for them, I think they have a point.
Steam is not a trojan horse, but I can see not everyone wanting to install Steam.
But those who want to buy MW2 will just get it elsewhere, steam or not, so D2D lose anyway.
Steam is not a trojan horse, but I can see not everyone wanting to install Steam.
But those who want to buy MW2 will just get it elsewhere, steam or not, so D2D lose anyway.
Meanwhile, retailers who like to make money have more for themselves, gamers who prefer to play awesome games over starting petitions get to play the GOTY, and IW becomes richer than God.
It's all spin, but I can see where D2D is coming from. If I ran a business selling games online, I wouldn't want to sell a game that would require users install and use a direct competitor's digital distribution platform. That being said, who the hell doesn't use steam already?
it's not as if this boycott will matter to anyone...PC gamers are smart enough to buy somewhere else, they don't even have to get up to do it!
and it's not as if it'll affect the majority of sales: the Gamestop-going 360 crowd
and it's not as if it'll affect the majority of sales: the Gamestop-going 360 crowd
if you would normally buy from D2D but cant now, i suggest steam. its a great service, not a trojan in any way and valve does a lot of great deals.
Sooo... to punish Valve for coupling their store with their game service, they're removing themselves from the market, giving Valve a monopoly on those products online. Does this seem like a horrible business plan to anyone else?
I bought the PC version of KoTOR from D2D when Bioware put out a promo code for 25% off. As soon as it was downloaded, I put it into Steam.
I've got a great idea for those buying the game on PC. It runs through Steamworks anyway, so why not just buy it through Steam?
While Steam CAN provide a valuable service, the fact is that if you analyze how the program works and hooks itself into your system, it DOES fall within the PC security definition of Mal-Ware.
If control of the steam servers ever fell into malicious hands, there would be some extremely FUBARED PC gamers out there. If you think it couldn't happen, you are quite naive about PC security...ANY system can be hacked.
If control of the steam servers ever fell into malicious hands, there would be some extremely FUBARED PC gamers out there. If you think it couldn't happen, you are quite naive about PC security...ANY system can be hacked.
regardless of whether these people boycott and protest and whine, I'm still buying it and a crap-ton of others still will and when these naysayers finally catch on they will pay too. I'll just be a higher prestige when this happens
On the other hand, this is obviously a veiled attempt to discredit a rival on-line software provider under the guise of "quality control" and "concern for our customers".
Well, technically they're right, Steamworks can be considered a Trojan. But then, I'm pretty sure that GFWL can be considered one too (anyone know if it auto updates your gamer profile with stuff you did while not signed in?).
Also, it's a Trojan that provides some pretty nice features.
Also also, Valve seems like the type of company that's introducing Steamworks as a bunch of cool features they thought you'd find neat, rather then as a way to thighten their grip on digital distribution.
Also, it's a Trojan that provides some pretty nice features.
Also also, Valve seems like the type of company that's introducing Steamworks as a bunch of cool features they thought you'd find neat, rather then as a way to thighten their grip on digital distribution.
Luckily I was able to just activate the copy of Dawn of War 2 I bought through D2D in Steam anyway, so I don't have to bother with them again. Hell, the only reason I bought it from them to begin with is because it was half off (a deal Steam matched like a week later).
This reminds me! I was looking thought the Best Buy Canada ad, and they have Modern Warfare 2 for PC for 49.99 CND. Just a message for those who live in Canada and want to get it on PC.
lol, I like how they say it was their idea. It REQUIRES A STEAM DOWNLOAD. Obviously it's impossible for them to sell it unless they sold serial numbers. So in a hissy fit they claim they're the ones that called the breakup, right after crying in their cars for an hour straight.
I actually agree with D2D on this. I use and like steam for games I bought off of steam, but why should I have to use it for game I didn't buy off steam? Those losing money isn't good either. It's really a lose-lose situation for them.
Did they happen to sell Spore or any of those other games with infamous copy protection schemes? Those could be considered trojan horses as well.
This is as stupid as the Mac vs PC commercials: D2D can cry me a river, they are just jealous they are not the ones cornering the market and would only replace Valve's monopolistic practices with their own monopolistic practices.
To me nothing is more disgusting than a business claiming unfairness when you know they are just bitter they didn't come up with it first.
To me nothing is more disgusting than a business claiming unfairness when you know they are just bitter they didn't come up with it first.
I love the fact that their doing this, I think steam is great but why should I have to install it on steam if it's not a valve game?
Way to choose one of the biggest moneymakers of the year to make your point. Might as well be boycotting profits.
I bought UT3 from D2D. I fucking hated myself for it. Fortunately they made it so that you could activate it on Steam. So I'm happy :)
lol @ gore on the floor for not knowing that "trojan" was named specifically after the "Trojan Horse" story in the way it behaves: ie/ how it unloads its payload after pc users let it into its system.
They are damned if they do, and they are damned if they don't.
If D2D and Impulse sells digital copies of MW2 that is coupled with Steamworks (and thus Steam) then they are indirectly promotion a competitive service.
On the other hand, failing to selling the game will result in a loss of potential revenue as well as STILL leading folks over to Steam.
Blargh.
If D2D and Impulse sells digital copies of MW2 that is coupled with Steamworks (and thus Steam) then they are indirectly promotion a competitive service.
On the other hand, failing to selling the game will result in a loss of potential revenue as well as STILL leading folks over to Steam.
Blargh.
Yeah I don't really like how Steamworks seems to be something that is coupled to Steam itself. When Valve first promoted that, they made it sound like a set of matchmaking and browser multiplayer tools and such PC developers could use for free, but if using those locks your game into needing Steam itself, that's a much more shady proposition. Not that any good games have made use of that, but still.
Really? No shit guys. But I was referring to the people who think they're talking about an actual trojan virus, which they're not.
I'm no PC gamer, but as far as I can tell, doesn't everyone already buy stuff on Steam? All this is doing is telling people who want digital copies to go use Steam, something I haven't heard legitimate complaints about since the Half-Life 2 launch. This is a non-issue, really.
i really agree with some of the MW2 guys on the whole media blackout deal, im not even going to bother reading any game sites until next week, its just constant bashing as much as possible from pc guys and other kids who cry because its not as good as "halo" or whatever bs they excuse they want to make up. stop your bitching because come monday night/tuesday well all be playing mw2 and im sure most of you who are bitching will also be playing it, the hypocrits you are. stop crying and enjoy the quiet before next tuesdays storm.
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I really hope that your not getting it on the PC.. because if you really have been trying to ignore all these stories.. your gonna be in for a big surprise when you try to play online!
I really hope that your not getting it on the PC.. because if you really have been trying to ignore all these stories.. your gonna be in for a big surprise when you try to play online!
So, what they're saying is, "Steam, since we don't like the way you bundle your software with our downloads, we're just going to give all of our profits on MW2 to you, that'll teach you a lesson!"
D2D is clearly bitter that Steam represents a better purchasing option, but to start this boycott with one of the guaranteed biggest games is silly - it only guarantees users will flock to Steam anyway. If they want to make a point, they should do it with a game that people won't practically cut off their own feet for.
Either way,.. I'm all for the PC version being as hard to find as possible. I really hope it tanks because of how douchy they're being over all this nonsense. The omissions from the pc version, the FAGS video, the attitude... f them.
Either way,.. I'm all for the PC version being as hard to find as possible. I really hope it tanks because of how douchy they're being over all this nonsense. The omissions from the pc version, the FAGS video, the attitude... f them.
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