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Today a national news show took an unbiased look at videogame
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I listened. Thought it was pretty cool. I'v seen Jesse Schell's DICE talk, but I haven't seen Jane's Ted Talk so I will have to check that out later.
I checked it out and enjoyed it, but the comments are ignorant and insulting. Really ignorant, and really insulting.
Haven't listened to NPR for a while. Will check it out when I get off of work... This is relevant to my casual-NPR-fan status and my status as a gamer. :D
Poison isn't a dude she's suposed to be a chick by the time the game got over hear people thought, huh... hot chick thats also a cop, it must be dude!
Currently listening to this. The comments posted on the site(on the media's site) are pretty maddening to read unfortunately. People are posting that "On the Media" is wasting their time talking about games and so on. I think it's amazing these people could have such strong opinions yet be completely ignorent of any form of vgs. Hopefully this changes at some point in the future. Thanks for the link.
The comments on the On The Media site just goes to show how far videogames still are from gaining true acceptance in mainstream culture.
Videogames make a lot of money these days, but so does porn. Money /= legitimacy in the eyes of out culture. Comics used to make a lot of money too, but it was the underground comics scene (that madde almost no money) that birthed Maus, and it was Maus and its Pulitzer prize that got the world thinking that maybe comics are "legit".
Makes me wonder when our Maus is going to come along. Whenever it does, I'm sure it wont be like Uncharted, Heavy Rain, or some other game that works very hard to imitate a Hollywood movie. Maus never would have gained the respect of our culture if it didn't embrace the things about sequential art that make the medium special. Maus would have never won the Pulitzer if was trying to be Citizen Kane.
But who really cares that the world thinks, right? We know that gaming is "legit", and that's all that counts.
Videogames make a lot of money these days, but so does porn. Money /= legitimacy in the eyes of out culture. Comics used to make a lot of money too, but it was the underground comics scene (that madde almost no money) that birthed Maus, and it was Maus and its Pulitzer prize that got the world thinking that maybe comics are "legit".
Makes me wonder when our Maus is going to come along. Whenever it does, I'm sure it wont be like Uncharted, Heavy Rain, or some other game that works very hard to imitate a Hollywood movie. Maus never would have gained the respect of our culture if it didn't embrace the things about sequential art that make the medium special. Maus would have never won the Pulitzer if was trying to be Citizen Kane.
But who really cares that the world thinks, right? We know that gaming is "legit", and that's all that counts.
Reading the comments on the On the media site just reassures me that gaming's only hope is waiting for the last generation to die...
It always amuses me when people spend time speaking out against interactive media...on message boards
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Sorry, I just hate whenever anyone starts the history of video games with Nolan Bushnell and Pong.Mainly because the Magnavox Odyssey had same exact game on it. Also Nolan Bushnell was asshole.
Sorry, I just hate whenever anyone starts the history of video games with Nolan Bushnell and Pong.Mainly because the Magnavox Odyssey had same exact game on it. Also Nolan Bushnell was asshole.
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Thought it was pretty cool. I'v seen Jesse Schell's DICE talk, but I haven't seen Jane's Ted Talk so I will have to check that out later.
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Good stuff, as is usual from NPR. Too bad the people who listen to it are probably not the ones who need to hear it.
"Makes me wonder when our Maus is going to come along."
I hope never. Should that day come, I'll be sure not to buy it.
Maus' success was more right time, right place than it actually being good product IMO. I personally don't feel it stands the test of time.
"Maus would have never won the Pulitzer if was trying to be Citizen Kane. "
Except it was. It was a purposely heavy handed comic with the intention to "legitimize" the art form to be comic's "Citizen Kane".
I hope never. Should that day come, I'll be sure not to buy it.
Maus' success was more right time, right place than it actually being good product IMO. I personally don't feel it stands the test of time.
"Maus would have never won the Pulitzer if was trying to be Citizen Kane. "
Except it was. It was a purposely heavy handed comic with the intention to "legitimize" the art form to be comic's "Citizen Kane".
@Jamn: It's a comic about a man's experience in the Holocaust. I don't think it's heavy-handed so much as heavy. Because it's, you know, about the Holocaust.
Also, Tide is a product. Maus is a graphic novel. Bit of a difference there. Though I do agree with you about the right time/right place bit. The world of graphic storytelling was definitely lacking was a Holocaust portrayal featuring cats and mice.
Also, Tide is a product. Maus is a graphic novel. Bit of a difference there. Though I do agree with you about the right time/right place bit. The world of graphic storytelling was definitely lacking was a Holocaust portrayal featuring cats and mice.
NPR is far too reliable of a source to count as "mainstream" news media. They've usually had a good grasp on game coverage without sounding too stupid. I even remember an interview with a game cover band. To me, NPR is the ONLY American news outlet I can trust nowadays. Corporate ownership(Disney, General Electric, and NewsCorpse) and the need for ratings over journalistic integrity has hurt the country exponentially(my parents work/have worked in broadcasting, so they know).
Hey, wouldnt it be silly if people judged the movie industry as being a true, mainstream art form based only on a few michael bay movies? What if 85% of movies released in a year were michael bay films. What if 14% were a lot better made than michael bay movies, but are still just summer popcorn fare? And what if only 1% were something different and/or better? Having played videogames for 22 years (Im 30 now) I can say I think the game industry makes at least 85% of games for two demographics: horny 14 year old boys and adult males who have the same mindset as horny 14 year old boys. Team ico games are truely awesome in their own right, but I think a big part of the reason that they stand out is because video games, for the most part, are about big boobs, beefy dudes goin "hoora!", blood, more blood, killin shit, pwning people, and killin more stuff. I know people can give examples of games that are not like this, but the point of this post is to show why I think people in the mainstream still dont take gaming seriously. And the reason is that most people wont dig through a 100 lbs of dog crap just to get a 100 dollar bill. too many games are immature, sex and viloence charged, crap that are made so people can live out their own fantasy. How many games give you 500 sliders just to customize your face, which always comes out but ugly anyway? They do this because people dont want to enjoy entertainment, but to be in the entertainment(fantasy world). So to all those people, please move to hollodeck and matrix island and let the industry move forward! Ps. go play every bit trip game ever made, please.
okay, my last post sounds a little judgemental. sorry. I just wish all of us gamers would start being honest with ourselves and admit that if we had never played a videogame and someone showed us gears of war and said it was one of the best selling and well reviewed games, we would probably think videogames were crap. If you love gears and had a great time playing it, thats fine. But why would you expect anyone in the "mainstream" to take it seriously?? 30 plus years after the first starwars movie, it looks really dated on a technical level, but is still reguarded (by non starwars fanboys) as a great movie. I cant imagine in 30 years anyone giving a crap about gears or the vast majority of games made today.
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