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Ocarina of Time to be the priciest Virtual Console game yet? photo

According to the official Japanese Virtual Console release list, Nintendo seems to think Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is worth two dollars more than the rest of the Nintendo 64 library. When the game hits Japanese Virtual Consoles in February, it's going to run gamers 1200 points; that's 200 points more than what gamers have come to expect from a Nintendo 64 release.

Ocarina of Time certainly represents a defining moment for the Nintendo 64, and is easily one the console's best titles. But when the game was originally launched at retail, it came in at an MSRP that was in line with other releases.

If Nintendo is going to start charging more for games based on what they perceive is quality and/or popularity, perhaps they might want to consider lowering the prices of some of the D-list classics that are no doubt going to eventually hit the Virtual Console. Castlevania 64, for example, should be 150 points, 850 points less than other N64 games.

This is not the first time we've seen Virtual Console pricing that's not in line with what consumers have expected. R-Type was released earlier at 800 points, 200 points more than other TurboGrafx-16 titles. In that case, the reasoning behind that price increase made sense that actually weighed in our favor (the US version contained all eight levels at 800 points; Japanese owners had to purchase the game in two parts, each at 600 points a piece).

Although it's unlikely, unless the VC release of Ocarina of Time also contains the expanded Ura Zelda (or "Master Quest"), it might be hard for some gamers to swallow the price increase.

Let the whinging commence








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Toneman's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 13:43
Toneman
Instead, I'll pop in my Gamecube OoT Master Quest disc.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 13:44
Snaileb
lol @ Nick

awww come on man, you know when you were young and Castlevania came out on the 64 you were stoked. Don't lie. PS did it better but don't hate. Wolf man FTW.
Ballistic90's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 13:44
Ballistic90
I don't think that is going to be the case, unless they do add to it.
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 13:51
Nick Chester
I should have included a link to Nintendo Japan's VC release list and pricing:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/vc/index.html

Ocarina is listed, along with it's 1200 point price tag.
TheDemon In You's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 13:53
TheDemon In You
Fuck that blows. I mean are they trying to make up for the fact that they charged so less for their console? I mean shit all these games are basically ROMS. And interns means they get glitchy.

I thought EA was bad with the whole madden thing, but this is just as bad. We need somone QUICK to figure out how to play hacked roms on the Wii, then it would be cool.

Free is better, stolen is perfect :o)
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 13:59
BahamutZero
you can play hacked roms on the wii, just not N64 ones AFAIK - any roms you could play on a cube you can play on the wii, you just need that max memory card usb dongle thing

usb dongle would be a great band name btw.

also, GC zelda's collector's disc FTW! only cost me $20 with a ninty power subscription. I should have gotten more...
Aetsen's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 14:03
Aetsen
Pre-Ordered Windwaker, and got the Collector's Disc too.

Fuck you Nintendo and your overpriced VC rip-off bullshit.

I'm not paying for your fucking ROMS.
-----'s Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 14:11
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Looks like Nintendo's taking a page from Microsoft's playbook. Already we have to pay 5 bucks A PIECE for NES roms that are no bigger than a few megs. Granted, you're paying for the experience and there is something to legitimately owning awesome games again. But still, this really isn't consumer oriented, which Nintendo seems to pride itself on being. And now with Ocarina, we gotta pay even more just because Nintendo knows it'll sell well? Wii owners should stay strong and not download this just to prove a point. Plus, who really wants to play through the Water Temple again?
CaffeinePowered's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 14:16
CaffeinePowered
How much would you pay for the greatest game ever?
-----'s Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 14:21
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That's 10 years old, costs them nothing to distribute, and is very easy to obtain a hard copy of? Zero dollars seems fair to me, but obviously I'm an optimist.
AndyCat's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 14:22
AndyCat
about tree fitty
World Famous's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 14:24
World Famous
When are you Nintendo fanboys gonna wake up and boycott this stupid VC shit?
JustAnotherName's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 14:26
JustAnotherName
lawls at summa.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 14:27
BlindsideDork
Castlevania 64 wasn't a bad game...it wasn't the best but not horrible!

But who cares if the jack up the price...aslong as they released others for 1000, I am fine...like Turok!
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 14:31
BlindsideDork
Heaven forbid Nintendo offers their games all on ONE system that is easy to access. Complain complain complain!

If you already have it, hmmm how about DON'T buy it again! There are some people who have never played Ocraina of Time or countless other games so $10, or $12 or $8 might not be a horrible price.
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 14:35
Justice
that is bs, I agree with toneman!
bhive01's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 14:39
bhive01
Summa I am. We should start a writing campaign!

Anyone know how to write?
World Famous's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 14:45
World Famous
I wish I did.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 15:01
Topher Cantler
Laaame. I still maintain what I said about VC price matching game quality: if that's the way they're going to do it, we should be getting credits added to our account for downloading crap like Baseball and the Mean Bean weaksauce machine.
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 15:01
BahamutZero
buy final draft. it writes for you
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 15:09
Bob Muir
I know we've already seen one price increase with R-Type, but don't forget that Japan paid a 200-point premium on Link to the Past, as well as a 100-point premium on various SNES RPGs. However, Link to the Past arrived here with a normal (if still 200 points too high, IMO) pricepoint of 800 points. Seeing as Nintendo hasn't announced the pricepoint of Ocarina of Time in the US and Europe, why not wait to see if all this shouting is for nothing?

Otherwise, [generic comment about VC games being $2 too expensive]. Also, [generic comment about already owning a copy of Ocarina of Time and being "forced" to buy a new version].
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 15:12
Aaron Mxy Yost
I believe they charged a little extra for A Link to the Past in Japan also. I'd be really surprised if they charge more than $10 for Ocarina in the US; they probably know they couldn't get away with it over here.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 15:13
Aaron Mxy Yost
lol, just beat me to the exact same point Necros. :)
ChrisFurniss's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 15:21
ChrisFurniss
@summa

I am. I'm giving my moneys to Xbox live arcade instead of the VC. This is just stupid. I got OOT for free for registering games on nintendo.com. I don't need to pay some stupid huge price for it. What is Nintendo even thinking?
suckputch's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 15:24
suckputch
Is the Nintendo Wii more powerful than the PS2

Does is have better graphics than the PS2?

cavapower's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 15:24
cavapower
Boycotting the VC is a great idea

Though I wonder if this version of ocarina has the same sensitivity issues that it had when it got ported to the gamecube... also, why the hell didnt they map the Z button on the gamecube??? WTF
Namelessted's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 15:27
Namelessted
I fucking hate the pricing scheme of the Wii VC titles already and when i read OoT is going to be 200 point more i wanted to cunt punch somebody.
tehuberone's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 15:31
tehuberone
"Instead, I'll pop in my Gamecube OoT Master Quest disc."

same here.
Cheesyhoboe's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 15:35
Cheesyhoboe
That's nice. You do realize that Link to the Past was 900 points in Japan? Did that carry over here? No?
bassbeast's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 15:56
bassbeast
I'm going to do something bizarre here and *GASP!* actually agree with Summa. I think charging $12US for OoT is criminal. I can buy the gold cart for less than $10 Canadian in tons of stores here. I also have the Master Quest disc for pre-ordering WW. Did anyone actually spend $5 to get Super Mario Bros. the day it was released?

I'm willing to pay for certain games (I didn't own a TG-16 back in teh day, so I'm loving that; some of the Genesis stuff is worth it too) but what they're asking for is utterly ridiculous. Much as I'm loathed to say anything nice about them - Lik-Sang still burns - the PlayStation Store charges much less for PS1 games. NES games should be 200 points, Genesis/TG-16 300-400 points, N64 400-600 points. I'd download a ton for those prices. But nobody will listen to that anyway.
Burnt Meatloaf's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 16:12
Burnt Meatloaf
When sales go down, prices will go down.

I dread to think when the first Wii price drop will happen. Look! It now comess in a lot of new colors, and that costs tons of money to manufacture, so it's worth more than $200!
Crackhippo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 16:48
Crackhippo
@ summa

i wish the ninty fanboys would smarten up too...but no matter what we say they're still gonna eat whatever-the-fuck is put in in their troughs

soon nintendo will shit directly into their mouths.

nintendo is a great game maker but i've had enough. We gotta put some pressure on them, they're completely slacking especially with this online TRASH!
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 16:52
Darren Nakamura
Supply and demand. Well, just demand, I guess (since the supply is infinite). People want it, they'll pay $12 for it, and they'll be happy. Me, I've got the GameCube disc with it on there, so I won't be downloading it.

I'm sick of people saying that Nintendo fans need to wise up and stop buying these games. Yeah, I'd love for the prices to be lower, but that doesn't mean I don't think they're reasonable. $8 for R-Type is a steal, considering I've probably played that game for at least ten hours now. If you don't want to pay it, that's fine. But don't call me retarded because I do.
Lezbro's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 16:59
Lezbro
The retro thing could have been icing on the cake for these next-gen systems. Instead it feels like a scam.
Lezbro's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 17:01
Lezbro
And the whole "points" thing is pure slime.

Just a cynical and evil mechanism to try and squeeze a few extra dollars out of you by muddying the waters.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 17:42
BluDesign
Guys, everyone here's forgetting...

Europe paid 1200 points for Mario Kart, we paid 1000.

So, OoT is 1200 in Japan. Until it shows up in the VC here, I'm not expecting it to be any more than 1000 points.
mdvalenz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 17:49
mdvalenz
I'll just use my promo disc, unless the game comes with the master quest. It might also not be priced higher in the US.
piestuff's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 18:19
piestuff
Cheesyhoboe and dvddesign win. Rest idiots.
MYL0R's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 18:22
MYL0R
agree with dexter
I'll more than likely buy OoT when it's available for $12. I plan on buying LttP on Thursday(payday) for $8. OoT cart goes for $17 around my parts, and LttP goes for $25, so I don't see the problem with the prices at all.

Bottom line, if a game is released for $5, $6, $8, or $10(even $12), and I feel it's a great game worthy of paying the (up to) $12, then I have no problem. I'm not going to buy everygame they have out just because it's out. But Mike Tyson's Punch Out will be worth the $5, as will Mario Bros 2 and 3, Zelda(is worth it). There are tons of SNES games I will want to get, and $8 is a fair price if you ask me. For $8 at local video game stores, you could get a copy of Michael Jordan:Chaos In The Windy City. I'd much rather have SimCity, Super Metroid, Super Mario, or DKC for my $8. On the same token, I don't know what I WOULDN'T pay to get Mario RPG on my Wii. I seriously regret selling my gem mint copy of that.

Nick had the best idea, with lowering prices of lesser games. Question is, would anyone even pay $1.50 for Castlvania 64?
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 18:32
Magesx
wtf now sony's gonna steal nintendo's stuff and sell stuff for more
broham's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 18:45
broham
Nick you said this a couple of days ago:

"We're still complaining about the Virtual Console games not being updated in any way and how they're too expensive? If I hear another, "I already bought this" comment I'm going to f**king scream. These comments were valid whines the first time these games were announced and maybe the first few round of Virtual Console releases."

I agree with this post, but you were commenting on the people already complaining about the vc. So start screaming about your invalid post.
dprime's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 19:33
dprime
They should pay you to download Superman 64.

But seriously, the reason bad games wont be cheaper is that people wont want those no matter what the price.
Ninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 20:01
Ninja
You'd think for $1200 they could improve the graphics a bit, especially given how painfully washed-out Ocarina's graphics look today. Will this even have the alternate dungeons of the Gamecube release?

Nintendo is a business, and their goal is to make as much money as possible. They set the price at the point they think will be most profitable; if you think their price is unreasonable, don't buy it.
denki's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 20:21
denki
Too bad Goldeneye is owned by Rare and M$ wouldn't let them lisence it to Nintendo (well, within 95% certainty), because that is one VC game I'd actually want to buy that I don't own a hard copy of (that and MKart64). Damn. Maybe they should repackage it for a cheap 360 dl?
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 22:51
Bob Muir
I did buy Super Mario Bros. for $5, as well as a few other obvious choices that people seem to think is worth boycotting the VC for, since apparently Nintendo is "forcing" you to buy them again. You know why Super Mario Bros. is up on the VC? For people like me, who have played it, never owned it, and would like to legally own it, in progressive no less.

I agree prices should be a bit lower, but $10 for an N64 game is reasonable in my mind, provided they are not going any higher. I don't like the R-Type pricing, but I'll buy their explanation. And what's wrong with the points? Though it varies in other countries, in the US, you can buy 1000 for $10, an exact trade; how is that slimy?

My major complaints: I've been taxed on buying points. Games are coming too slow, even at this point. You don't fully "own" the games since Nintendo has some stupid licensing thing. Also, I can't just put all my NES games in one NES channel on the main screen. Otherwise, people need to quit bitching, it's really not as bad as you might think.

Oh, and if you already own a copy of Ocarina of Time, keep playing that and just DON'T BUY THE VC VERSION. No one is forcing you to buy it. It's obviously for people who didn't get that very limited bonus.

P.S. Urban Champion is worth no more than $1.
Goldrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2007 23:32
Goldrush
Come on. Who in here do not have at least one copy of the game? They gave away a superior version 2 or 3 times for free on the GC.

I don't really consider it a rip. Remember, if VC, XBLA, or Playstation Store didn't exist, more than a few of these companies will be charging $50-$60 for their games. Anyone remembers the GC Resident Evil re-releases?
Tim_Stoppard's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 01:58
Tim_Stoppard
No, I'm sorry, I have to agree with the whole price point thing. Just because I have roms doesn't mean there isn't a little part of me that wants to go legit, and pay people to take my guilt away.

That being said, what they are charging is ridiculous. Not because some people can pay and others can't afford, but because it is a market that costs them nothing to produce and develop. There isn't any overhead to distributing the software except cost of a limited scope bandwidth (as most games are only a few meg).

Nintendo is supposed to be the great lover of cheap in this next gen, but for a company making a huge profit off of console sales alone, they seem bent on milking their audience for all it's worth.
lowercaseluke's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 02:33
lowercaseluke
If it's too much then nobody will pay it, and Nintendo will hopefully learn their lesson in time for the VC release of Zelda:MM.

*nod*
dprime's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 05:01
dprime
I don't get this whole rant about companies "milking" us. Nintendo isn't kicking down your door, invading your house, and taking the two bucks on your desk and forcing you to use it for the virtual console.

Sure, there's nothing wrong with debating the sensibility of pricing, but Nintendo has the right to charge a million vc points if they want; you don't have to download it, and they're not extorting anything from anyone.
Raymod's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 05:52
Raymod
I like Snaileb's comment at the top
"awww come on man, you know when you were young and Castlevania came out on the 64 you were stoked. Don't lie. PS did it better but don't hate. Wolf man FTW."
I agree with "PS2 did it better" BUT i feel old Now cos when i was a kid i was playing Simon's quest on the NES.
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