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Too scary... I can't voice support for this. I like my childhood to slam into a brick wall as little as possible, a disappointment on this level would be too much.
@Shinta
Wow, the only thing you liked about Chrono Trigger was the graphics? You're a fucking retard. CT's graphics look terrible on an HDTV television, anyway. Sure, with FILTERS you can make CT look good in ZSNES...but that doesn't count.
Anyway, I loved Fallout AND Chrono Trigger, and Obsidian's only had one fuck-up so far, which had mostly to do with Sega. See what Sega did to the PS3 version of Bayonnetta if you don't believe me.
This reminds me of Double Helix's Silent Hill. No matter what, it's an American developer sooooooo...
Wow, the only thing you liked about Chrono Trigger was the graphics? You're a fucking retard. CT's graphics look terrible on an HDTV television, anyway. Sure, with FILTERS you can make CT look good in ZSNES...but that doesn't count.
Anyway, I loved Fallout AND Chrono Trigger, and Obsidian's only had one fuck-up so far, which had mostly to do with Sega. See what Sega did to the PS3 version of Bayonnetta if you don't believe me.
This reminds me of Double Helix's Silent Hill. No matter what, it's an American developer sooooooo...
Also, Square Enix had a recent fuck up with FFXIII, so it's not like they haven't completely screwed up a franchise before.
@Waquan: Where did I say anything about only liking the graphics? Please provide me with this mysterious quote that you seem to have pulled out of your ass. Do I have to write you an essay of every single thing I've enjoyed about Chrono Trigger? I thought this was all common knowledge. It's been out for quite a while.
People have been slamming anyone that's a fan of the original as only liking nostalgia. It's a completely ridiculous claim considering that the game holds up far better than Fallout 1 which was released 4 years later. So that ends the nostalgia line of attack. In fact, most of the Obsidian fans are the nostalgic and irrational ones.
"Anyway, I loved Fallout AND Chrono Trigger, and Obsidian's only had one fuck-up so far"
Obsidian has had more than one fuck-up. And I don't blame Sega. They were the ones that were going to lose money on a mediocre RPG that they were funding, so they knew that and decided to cut their losses. Sega knows a good RPG when they see one. Just look at Valkyria Chronicles. Ironically, that's the only game that made me think of Chrono Trigger's level of quality, and it's a Sega game.
People have been slamming anyone that's a fan of the original as only liking nostalgia. It's a completely ridiculous claim considering that the game holds up far better than Fallout 1 which was released 4 years later. So that ends the nostalgia line of attack. In fact, most of the Obsidian fans are the nostalgic and irrational ones.
"Anyway, I loved Fallout AND Chrono Trigger, and Obsidian's only had one fuck-up so far"
Obsidian has had more than one fuck-up. And I don't blame Sega. They were the ones that were going to lose money on a mediocre RPG that they were funding, so they knew that and decided to cut their losses. Sega knows a good RPG when they see one. Just look at Valkyria Chronicles. Ironically, that's the only game that made me think of Chrono Trigger's level of quality, and it's a Sega game.
@Waquan: "Also, Square Enix had a recent fuck up with FFXIII, so it's not like they haven't completely screwed up a franchise before."
I'm not going to open that can of worms again on this site. Suffice to say, it's biased bullshit to claim that FFXIII wasn't a great game. If it was released by Atlus as a new IP, you would have loved it I'm sure.
I'm not going to open that can of worms again on this site. Suffice to say, it's biased bullshit to claim that FFXIII wasn't a great game. If it was released by Atlus as a new IP, you would have loved it I'm sure.
Chrono Trigger was made by a dream team and should only be approached by a group of individuals recognized as a dream team, including Mitsuda.
It's quite funny to think people could cry nostalgia on a game that holds up better than any other game more than 5 years old.
It's quite funny to think people could cry nostalgia on a game that holds up better than any other game more than 5 years old.
Do we... really need another Chrono trigger?
Chrono Trigger was really good, and it had almost a dozen endings... it was wrapped up really well, I thought.
I'd rather Square's "Dream Team" consisting of the guy from FF and the two dudes from Dragon Quest got together again to make another badass game... I mean, they're basically part of the same company now, couldn't be that hard.
@Bigmoose85 -
You seem kind of on edge, so know that I'm not looking for verbal spew here, but why exactly would you like another entry into the series?
Chrono Trigger was really good, and it had almost a dozen endings... it was wrapped up really well, I thought.
I'd rather Square's "Dream Team" consisting of the guy from FF and the two dudes from Dragon Quest got together again to make another badass game... I mean, they're basically part of the same company now, couldn't be that hard.
@Bigmoose85 -
You seem kind of on edge, so know that I'm not looking for verbal spew here, but why exactly would you like another entry into the series?
@Shinta
"I'm not going to open that can of worms again on this site. Suffice to say, it's biased bullshit to claim that FFXIII wasn't a great game. If it was released by Atlus as a new IP, you would have loved it I'm sure."
The only Atlus franchise that has impressed me is the Persona series. Could care less about anything else. FFXIII wasn't a bad game...but Alpha Protocol was only marginally more of a letdown. AP's a 6/10 where FFXIII's more 7ish out of ten. FFXIII was the the 2nd to worst game in the series, right behind FFV, which really sucked.
It's biased bullshit that you don't think Fallout's held up very well. I didn't start playing it until 2007 and I thought it was one of the best experiences I've ever had. NWN2 was great too. Didn't like KOTOR2 though (it wasn't a bad game either).
All of these claims about Obsidian making buggy games is bullshit too. It's just retards who don't know how to operate an OS (people who have viruses, faulty drivers, spyware, etc. and confuse those things with 'bugs').
"I'm not going to open that can of worms again on this site. Suffice to say, it's biased bullshit to claim that FFXIII wasn't a great game. If it was released by Atlus as a new IP, you would have loved it I'm sure."
The only Atlus franchise that has impressed me is the Persona series. Could care less about anything else. FFXIII wasn't a bad game...but Alpha Protocol was only marginally more of a letdown. AP's a 6/10 where FFXIII's more 7ish out of ten. FFXIII was the the 2nd to worst game in the series, right behind FFV, which really sucked.
It's biased bullshit that you don't think Fallout's held up very well. I didn't start playing it until 2007 and I thought it was one of the best experiences I've ever had. NWN2 was great too. Didn't like KOTOR2 though (it wasn't a bad game either).
All of these claims about Obsidian making buggy games is bullshit too. It's just retards who don't know how to operate an OS (people who have viruses, faulty drivers, spyware, etc. and confuse those things with 'bugs').
@glitznglam-style: I found this on wikipedia.
"the "Dream Team", consisting of Hironobu Sakaguchi, creator of the Final Fantasy series, and Yuuji Horii and Akira Toriyama—two freelance designers known for their work on Enix's Dragon Quest series. Kazuhiko Aoki produced the game.[3] Masato Kato wrote most of the plot, while composer Yasunori Mitsuda scored most of the game before falling ill and deferring remaining tracks to Final Fantasy composer Nobuo Uematsu."
Hironobu Sakaguchi - He was one of the top people on FFI - FFIX. He's had a few sub-par games, but Lost Odyssey was amazing, and The Last Story looks great so far.
Nobuo Uematsu - Do I need to say more? He's still a legend.
Masato Kato - This guy is less known, but has a long list of impressive games on his resume, including Ninja Gaiden I-III, FFVII, FFXI, and he was the director of Chrono Cross later on.
Kazuhiko Aoki - Xenogears, Xenosaga, Chrono Cross, FFV, Soma Bringer, Xenoblade
Yuuji Horii - Creator of Dragon Quest, one of the most popular games of all time in Japan.
Akira Toriyama - Creator of one of the most popular cartoons in the world, and long time character designer and monster designer for Dragon Quest, that other super popular thing.
"the "Dream Team", consisting of Hironobu Sakaguchi, creator of the Final Fantasy series, and Yuuji Horii and Akira Toriyama—two freelance designers known for their work on Enix's Dragon Quest series. Kazuhiko Aoki produced the game.[3] Masato Kato wrote most of the plot, while composer Yasunori Mitsuda scored most of the game before falling ill and deferring remaining tracks to Final Fantasy composer Nobuo Uematsu."
Hironobu Sakaguchi - He was one of the top people on FFI - FFIX. He's had a few sub-par games, but Lost Odyssey was amazing, and The Last Story looks great so far.
Nobuo Uematsu - Do I need to say more? He's still a legend.
Masato Kato - This guy is less known, but has a long list of impressive games on his resume, including Ninja Gaiden I-III, FFVII, FFXI, and he was the director of Chrono Cross later on.
Kazuhiko Aoki - Xenogears, Xenosaga, Chrono Cross, FFV, Soma Bringer, Xenoblade
Yuuji Horii - Creator of Dragon Quest, one of the most popular games of all time in Japan.
Akira Toriyama - Creator of one of the most popular cartoons in the world, and long time character designer and monster designer for Dragon Quest, that other super popular thing.
I don't see a problem with a new "Chrono Something" game. For example, I'm not extremely fond of Chrono Cross. I, like everyone else, love Chrono Trigger, but the fact that I find Chrono Cross to not be to my tastes doesn't mean that Trigger becomes depreciated in my eyes. Chrono Cross was a decent game. It has the right to exist. And rightly, a new game has the right to exist. Just... not by Obsidian. Why not just leave it to Squeenix?
Isn't it kind of like saying, OH HEY GUYS OVER AT SQUEENIX, I'M A RANDOM DEVELOPER, CAN I MAKE THE NEXT FINAL FANTASY FOR YOU GUYS? I mean... I don't hate Obsidian or anything, but it's just kind of out of the blue is all.
That said, giving this a little more thought, I'd like to see Obsidian's take on a JRPG style game. You know. Heavily JRPG, with manga style designs and such.
That said, giving this a little more thought, I'd like to see Obsidian's take on a JRPG style game. You know. Heavily JRPG, with manga style designs and such.
Isn't it kind of like saying, OH HEY GUYS OVER AT SQUEENIX, I'M A RANDOM DEVELOPER, CAN I MAKE THE NEXT FINAL FANTASY FOR YOU GUYS? I mean... I don't hate Obsidian or anything, but it's just kind of out of the blue is all.
That said, giving this a little more thought, I'd like to see Obsidian's take on a JRPG style game. You know. Heavily JRPG, with manga style designs and such.
That said, giving this a little more thought, I'd like to see Obsidian's take on a JRPG style game. You know. Heavily JRPG, with manga style designs and such.
Even though their games tend to be rushed or generally subpar, I've still admired the strength of Obsidian's writing when it comes to plots and characters, so I'm a little torn on this.
On one hand, I'd love to see how they portray the events and people of Chrono Trigger, but I also feel that one DS remake and a confusingly pseudo-philosophical sequel is enough and they should just leave well enough alone. :/
On one hand, I'd love to see how they portray the events and people of Chrono Trigger, but I also feel that one DS remake and a confusingly pseudo-philosophical sequel is enough and they should just leave well enough alone. :/
@Bigmoose85
"Valkyria Chronicles Chronicles was doo doo"
!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Shut your whore mouth.
I was content to sit and let you carry on like an idiot, because I don't think most people who have been commenting have an issue with the principle of another Chrono Trigger sequel, just the idea of Square handing over the reins of a sacred IP to a tier 4 studio that can't even produce a decent game when its their own flagship IP, not to mention their pathetic history of handling others.
But it must be said. You have shit for brains if hated Valkeryia Chronicles.
That game is a gem. I can understand if it wasn't someone's thing, what with its clever mingling of turn based strategy, action, and RPG mechanics; the beautiful art style with the hand drawn filter; the story that wasn't half bad, especially considering the sludge that passes for stories in strategy games.
But hate? Not possible. You are the biggest philistine I've seen on this site in quite some time.
"Valkyria Chronicles Chronicles was doo doo"
!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Shut your whore mouth.
I was content to sit and let you carry on like an idiot, because I don't think most people who have been commenting have an issue with the principle of another Chrono Trigger sequel, just the idea of Square handing over the reins of a sacred IP to a tier 4 studio that can't even produce a decent game when its their own flagship IP, not to mention their pathetic history of handling others.
But it must be said. You have shit for brains if hated Valkeryia Chronicles.
That game is a gem. I can understand if it wasn't someone's thing, what with its clever mingling of turn based strategy, action, and RPG mechanics; the beautiful art style with the hand drawn filter; the story that wasn't half bad, especially considering the sludge that passes for stories in strategy games.
But hate? Not possible. You are the biggest philistine I've seen on this site in quite some time.
I also enjoyed Chrono Cross more than Trigger. The story, artwork, and music were some of the best of any game, period. You could actually follow it. In Chrono Trigger, a random group of teenagers decide to take on the task of saving the world. Yeah, that makes sense. It was still a good game, though.
I've yet to not like a game by Obsidian or most of their developers. Anyone who dogs Obsidian doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about.
"OH JIM GAVE ALPHA PROTOCOL A -999.5 SO EVERY OBSIDIAN GAME MUST BE TERRIBLE"
Fuck off
I've yet to not like a game by Obsidian or most of their developers. Anyone who dogs Obsidian doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about.
"OH JIM GAVE ALPHA PROTOCOL A -999.5 SO EVERY OBSIDIAN GAME MUST BE TERRIBLE"
Fuck off
Gosh people are sure not to have a new CT, because it my ruin their childhood, which implies to me that you hated the hell out of Chrono Trigger.
Oh well not my problem if 50,000 people hate it, if they're gonna make it, they're gonna make it.
Oh well not my problem if 50,000 people hate it, if they're gonna make it, they're gonna make it.
@Bigmoose85
It's possible to acknowledge that something has quality, even you don't like it. I hate Halo games, but I know they are solid first person shooters. I don't really like Gran Tourismo, but I wouldn't besmirch its quality as a racer for a second.
It just takes a critical eye and higher level thinking. Something you've more than shown you lack, philistine.
It's possible to acknowledge that something has quality, even you don't like it. I hate Halo games, but I know they are solid first person shooters. I don't really like Gran Tourismo, but I wouldn't besmirch its quality as a racer for a second.
It just takes a critical eye and higher level thinking. Something you've more than shown you lack, philistine.
Well, couldn't be less satisfying than Chrono Cross.
OHSNAPSON!
But seriously, let them do it. If Squeenix isn't going to bother, and if their idea of a reasonable sequel to *Chrono* Trigger was Chrono Cross, then I say let someone else run wild. They might do something actually interesting with the time travel aspect in the RPG setting.
OHSNAPSON!
But seriously, let them do it. If Squeenix isn't going to bother, and if their idea of a reasonable sequel to *Chrono* Trigger was Chrono Cross, then I say let someone else run wild. They might do something actually interesting with the time travel aspect in the RPG setting.
I haven't read all the comments yet, but here's my two cents.
Chrono Trigger Remake/upgrade/whatever: no please, this game is fine as it is
Chrono Cross, same deal, leave it alone, it's fine.
Now, what I WOULD like to see is a commercial release of Radical Dreamers in any way shape or form. Be it the fan-make some folks did a while ago, some release of the text based version or, heaven forbid, a full blown modern adaptation made by Obsidian.
You listening Square Enix and Obsidian? Radical Dreamers is a thing I'd pay money for!
Chrono Trigger Remake/upgrade/whatever: no please, this game is fine as it is
Chrono Cross, same deal, leave it alone, it's fine.
Now, what I WOULD like to see is a commercial release of Radical Dreamers in any way shape or form. Be it the fan-make some folks did a while ago, some release of the text based version or, heaven forbid, a full blown modern adaptation made by Obsidian.
You listening Square Enix and Obsidian? Radical Dreamers is a thing I'd pay money for!
You know what? If Square sent Obsidian an army of their QA testers and artists and got Mitsuda to do the soundtrack of the game, Obsidian could make a pretty badass CT game. It would be one most CT fanboys would despise, but who gives a shit what they think?
Even by Obsidian's buggy-ass standards, Alpha Protocol was a total fucking mess. But the story itself was good, and the sheer amount of reactivity to one's choices the game displayed was nothing short of astounding. It was a busted game in many ways (I still have nightmares about the Brayko fight), but the heart of a reasonably strong PC RPG beat underneath its breast. More importantly, AP's reactivity would be a good template for a modern CT to follow, and it'd be nice to play a modern JRPG with dialogue that American voice actors can say with a straight face. FFXIII's biggest problem is that the script is composed of Final Fantasy dialogue, meaning it works in text and doesn't when actually said out loud.
Even by Obsidian's buggy-ass standards, Alpha Protocol was a total fucking mess. But the story itself was good, and the sheer amount of reactivity to one's choices the game displayed was nothing short of astounding. It was a busted game in many ways (I still have nightmares about the Brayko fight), but the heart of a reasonably strong PC RPG beat underneath its breast. More importantly, AP's reactivity would be a good template for a modern CT to follow, and it'd be nice to play a modern JRPG with dialogue that American voice actors can say with a straight face. FFXIII's biggest problem is that the script is composed of Final Fantasy dialogue, meaning it works in text and doesn't when actually said out loud.
"just so you know. the same goes for Shadow of the colossus & ICO.... not art."
Thank god we have the art police here to tell me what is and isn't art because I surely can't think for myself.
Thank god we have the art police here to tell me what is and isn't art because I surely can't think for myself.
@Bigmoose85
Unless the world went strange on me all of a sudden, doo doo is shit, son.
It doesn't get much worse than that for adjectives, outside of hyperbole. You think the game was shit, but claim you didn't hate it...
Are you a masochist by chance? Its either that or I need to slap your English teacher.
Unless the world went strange on me all of a sudden, doo doo is shit, son.
It doesn't get much worse than that for adjectives, outside of hyperbole. You think the game was shit, but claim you didn't hate it...
Are you a masochist by chance? Its either that or I need to slap your English teacher.
@ Bigmoose85,
"like i said if i hated the game i would have said far worse then its just shit (doo doo)"
That doesn't make a lick of sense.
"like i said if i hated the game i would have said far worse then its just shit (doo doo)"
That doesn't make a lick of sense.
The sad truth of the matter is that no one will be able to capture the magic in a jar that was Chrono Trigger. Certainly not Obsidian.
If they actually put some effort in the writing, and put in enough time to complete the game properly, I think it could work. I remember obsidian did a decent job on Kotor2, and Chrono's story lends easily to western styles.
And I do disagree with whiny fans. It was a good game, but it's not GODLY, and Christ, SquareEnix can do whatever the hell they want with their own IPs. I'm fed up of people hailing the sanctity of franchises. There is none.
But then again, Obsidian could very easily f*** it up.
And I do disagree with whiny fans. It was a good game, but it's not GODLY, and Christ, SquareEnix can do whatever the hell they want with their own IPs. I'm fed up of people hailing the sanctity of franchises. There is none.
But then again, Obsidian could very easily f*** it up.
@Brian Keljore: Actually, I think they pretty much did with Valkyria Chronicles. Skies of Arcadia team, FFXII/FFT composer, and a hentai artist. It may not be the dream team we expected, but the results speak for themselves.
Bethesda and Blizzard would be the safest bet. Obsidian have made nothing but buggy, half-finished games since KOTOR2 (including KOTOR2).
@Bigmoose85
Thats an usual distinction to make to a casual passerby, using synonyms for distinct degrees of dislike and it might not convey your thoughts as clearly as you'd like. I guess that's one you make at your own peril.
Regardless, at least you don't hate VC. There's a special place in hell for them.
Thats an usual distinction to make to a casual passerby, using synonyms for distinct degrees of dislike and it might not convey your thoughts as clearly as you'd like. I guess that's one you make at your own peril.
Regardless, at least you don't hate VC. There's a special place in hell for them.
Eh, I still have my copy of the orignal, and PS1 versions of the game. They can go ahead and give it a shot. If it sucks, I won't play it. Big deal.
The prospect of some old Black Isle type Western RPG developers getting their grubby paws on the Chrono Trigger mythos is fucking heady. I don't want a remake of Chrono Trigger (I'm joining the not-so-silent majority in that one), but I do think (and so do SE and Obsidian apparently, along with other articles I think I've read on here) that a melding of western and eastern ideas is only going to benefit the gamers. I also admire the balls of the decision that if they are going to clasp hands across the ocean and try this whole thing out, they're gonna do it with a fucking paragon of gaming.
Side note: when I contemplate the shoddy aspects and the brilliance of both the WRPG's and the JRPG's its exciting that usually where one falls short the other is doing it right. Here's hoping for the best of the both worlds and not the opposite.
Side note: when I contemplate the shoddy aspects and the brilliance of both the WRPG's and the JRPG's its exciting that usually where one falls short the other is doing it right. Here's hoping for the best of the both worlds and not the opposite.
?!?!?!?!? I would kill to even have the POSSIBILITY of there being another good Chrono Trigger game!
Like I said, this shit about Obsidian making buggy games is caused by the fact that they don't even know what Spybot S&D does without Googling it...and even then, it's probably hopeless.
Obsidian has a habit of ruining good franchises.
Neverwinter Nights 2
Knights of the Old Republic 2
All disappointments.
Then they made Alpha Protocol. Yeeeeaahh. Not so good.
So what good have they done? Fallout 1 + 2? Sort of? Obsidian may have some former developers of these titles, but it is a different time now with different hardware, Obsidian are incompetent. Lets hope New Vegas won't be fucked up by them, there is at least some hope.
Neverwinter Nights 2
Knights of the Old Republic 2
All disappointments.
Then they made Alpha Protocol. Yeeeeaahh. Not so good.
So what good have they done? Fallout 1 + 2? Sort of? Obsidian may have some former developers of these titles, but it is a different time now with different hardware, Obsidian are incompetent. Lets hope New Vegas won't be fucked up by them, there is at least some hope.
@ Liberaliter
In your biased opinion maybe. KOTOR 2 and NWN2 may have not won GOTY awards, but they were critically-acclaimed titles.
I personally felt that NWN2 was superior to the original. On KOTOR2, I feel differently, but it was far from being a bad game.
In fact, KOTOR2 surpassed the ratings of FFXIII on Metacritic. Or are you one of those individuals who believes that only the uneducated, illiterate opinions of the masses should matter?
In your biased opinion maybe. KOTOR 2 and NWN2 may have not won GOTY awards, but they were critically-acclaimed titles.
I personally felt that NWN2 was superior to the original. On KOTOR2, I feel differently, but it was far from being a bad game.
In fact, KOTOR2 surpassed the ratings of FFXIII on Metacritic. Or are you one of those individuals who believes that only the uneducated, illiterate opinions of the masses should matter?
@Liberaliter,
"Knights of the Old Republic 2"
Missing content due to being rushed aside, KOTOR 2 was a good game.
"Knights of the Old Republic 2"
Missing content due to being rushed aside, KOTOR 2 was a good game.
@Waquan, runtheplacerd: You two are trying to convince someone that a game they didn't like is good. As much as I don't agree with him/her thats a fruitless endeavor regardless. Just saying.
@ Gritzy
I think you can objectively criticize a game (like most critics do), so I don't think it' s entirely fruitless.
Objectively, KOTOR2 and NWN2 accomplish pretty much everything they were designed to do; objectively, they are great games and garnered reviews which reflected that. Subjectively, you may not enjoy the game (because you're not into the genre or narrative or whatever), which is sensible, but acting like it's a bad game just because it's not by the original developer, is just silly.
99% of the people who think KOTOR2 and NWN2 are bad games think that because they're not by the original developer, or because they became bored with the style of those games and mistook their extreme-familiarity with the existing elements of those games as distaste, relying on their own nostalgia to extract pleasure from the originals.
I think you can objectively criticize a game (like most critics do), so I don't think it' s entirely fruitless.
Objectively, KOTOR2 and NWN2 accomplish pretty much everything they were designed to do; objectively, they are great games and garnered reviews which reflected that. Subjectively, you may not enjoy the game (because you're not into the genre or narrative or whatever), which is sensible, but acting like it's a bad game just because it's not by the original developer, is just silly.
99% of the people who think KOTOR2 and NWN2 are bad games think that because they're not by the original developer, or because they became bored with the style of those games and mistook their extreme-familiarity with the existing elements of those games as distaste, relying on their own nostalgia to extract pleasure from the originals.
Fans already got their wish for a newer Chrono Trigger on the DS and most are happy with that. Obsidian seems to be over extending themselves on this one. What the fans really want is an true to heart sequel to Chrono Cross which Ironically SquareEnix hauled all production when it was 95% done, just because it was fan made. SE is full of shit these lazy bastard just care about their God Final Fantasy and are willing to whore out great titles to sub par teams just because they themselves aren't up to the task of making it.
.....at least SOMEONE is thinking about making sequels to the better Squeenix RPGs. even if the developers have a bad rep.
cause it's clear Squeenix is too busy milking the FF series to being garbage as of late.
cause it's clear Squeenix is too busy milking the FF series to being garbage as of late.
I actually got the chance to meet Feargus at the FF13 launch party, really cool dude. I believe in what Obsidian is trying to do as a company, they just seem to be dealing with various growing pains in the process. So far they have had a decent track record with sequels and spin-offs, so it would be interesting to see what they could do with a Square-Enix collaboration on a JRPG.
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