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They should keep the price of digital the same and increase the price of physical if they want either of these to work.
Ok well it costs more if you use whatever play money that is represented by that squiggly E character, but what's the price comparison if you're paying with real money?
No Jim, you got it all wrong.
Nintendo is selling you the benefit of not having to carry the cardridge for 10$!
Nintendo is selling you the benefit of not having to carry the cardridge for 10$!
Over the weekend I took advantage of Gamestop's trade in deal for extra 30% when traded towards Borderlands. So with 3 games I'll never touch again I can now pick up Borderlands brand new for $20.
In an all digital game world, this couldn't happen. I would have to wait months for the price to drop as well as not being able to make use of games I no longer desired to own. Fuck all digital.
In an all digital game world, this couldn't happen. I would have to wait months for the price to drop as well as not being able to make use of games I no longer desired to own. Fuck all digital.
The price matches retail here in North America... Though it's bit retarded since the MSRP is set to be beneficial to the retailer, developer, and publisher.
Everyone thinks about the cost of the damn box. Its the convenience they are considering. "Wow, buy 10 bucks more to purchase this from your underwear".
Sadly, this is a smart way to do business.
Sadly, this is a smart way to do business.
wowww. I did not expect to see this from Nintendo. $ony PSN is where i see this and laugh my us off. MK used at GameStop, I paid $8.99, Wipeout pure at Walmart is $19.99. The PSN versions of those games are $34.99 each. I just do not know why people are buying digital at all. Also NewEgg is having $10 for pre-order promo for 3ds/vita/xbox/ps3 games. How is it that NewEgg is able to do this and Nintendo or $ony can not?
Err, but isn't Nintendo's eShop simply selling it at MSRP, and it's GAME that lowered the price to draw in customers? I mean, in the end GAME decides what to sell it for in their own stores, if they want to undercut the eShop to get traffic to their own stores, that's their decision.
It's not like Nintendo saw that GAME was selling it at one price and purposely priced themselves higher.
It's not like Nintendo saw that GAME was selling it at one price and purposely priced themselves higher.
@The Silent Protagonist:
Yeah, and isn't GAME that one retailer that's in a downward spiral since last year?
Yeah, and isn't GAME that one retailer that's in a downward spiral since last year?
@shawnkelfonne
I didnt think of that. It does seem like it's specifically UK retailers cutting 10 bucks off the game in order to sell more.
The article is a bit vague about who exactly is selling what.
"Other games also cost more than they will at retail, with New Art Academy costing £5 more on the eShop, and Freakyforms Deluxe charging an extra £10. " -Is this still referring to GAME or are we talking about retail in general?
I didnt think of that. It does seem like it's specifically UK retailers cutting 10 bucks off the game in order to sell more.
The article is a bit vague about who exactly is selling what.
"Other games also cost more than they will at retail, with New Art Academy costing £5 more on the eShop, and Freakyforms Deluxe charging an extra £10. " -Is this still referring to GAME or are we talking about retail in general?
Wow, after Xbox Live Games on Demand's laughable business practice, I honestly expected better of Nintendo. Are they honestly that scared of losing the awful, awful, brick and mortar UK retail market? Because it's failing fast anyway.
They can't even bullshit their way into the perceived "value"; it's £40 RRP because of the PHYSICAL elements and the manuafacturing costs taken into account. With a download, you don't have that. Absolute bullshit.
They can't even bullshit their way into the perceived "value"; it's £40 RRP because of the PHYSICAL elements and the manuafacturing costs taken into account. With a download, you don't have that. Absolute bullshit.
here in the netherlands there are quite a few online retailers that undercut the adviced price with quite a bit so I assume the difference here is pretty big, for example when skyrim got a 25% off on a sale it was still cheaper in a online retailer, actually a few of them.
sadly this is'nt a new thing for ireland. I often see new release games selling for €60-€70 on psn when the average price of a new game at retail is about €45-€55
I laugh at anyone who thinks that publishers are going to be nicer with pricing if everything goes all digital. It's nothing but a power grab for publishers, and they will abuse the gaming community who continuously remind them that they are addicts and games are the drug so they will pay whatever the cost to play.
It should silent but wording it incorrectly like this brings in more hits.
And Nintendo fucking up in a market they've never bothered with till now? Color me shocked, cannot wait for the giant disaster than the their Wii U online system is gonna be.
And Nintendo fucking up in a market they've never bothered with till now? Color me shocked, cannot wait for the giant disaster than the their Wii U online system is gonna be.
I've yet to see a single reason to buy any game digitally other than indie/XBLA/PSN games too small to go the retail route. I love my digital book and music collections, but screw digital movies and games. The pricing isn't even the main issue for me.
Part of the problem, is that retailers undercut Nintendos RRP usually by 10 quid. And Nintendo can hardly go and then undercut their own suggested RRP. But really, this should have come out as 30, and there's no way in hell 40 should have been the suggested RRP. They only have themselves to blame.
Agreed, Jim. I expected this from Nintendo, as they don't understand digital and they're oblivious or just don't care that the digital price is a rip off. Dammit, why can't they do real sales like steam?
As someone from Europe, I'm pretty much used to digitial being more expensive than retail. Steam prices for new games are ridiculous because they think that the dollar to euro conversion is 1:1.
New games on PSN and even older retail games on XBOX cost double the retailprice.
When we finally go full digital distribution and there's no competitive market left, I think we'll see a general price increase across all the territories.
New games on PSN and even older retail games on XBOX cost double the retailprice.
When we finally go full digital distribution and there's no competitive market left, I think we'll see a general price increase across all the territories.
Jim, stop blowing everything out of proportion for page hits, you crazy "journalist!"
Oh wait, wrong article.
Anyway, yeah, maybe they still sell a lot of digital games by pricing them so high, but I know I personally don't buy anything digitally unless it's less than the physical version.
Oh wait, wrong article.
Anyway, yeah, maybe they still sell a lot of digital games by pricing them so high, but I know I personally don't buy anything digitally unless it's less than the physical version.
It matches up fine here in the states, no?
And I'm pretty sure the big retailers over there choose the price according to Nintendo's philosophy for including retailers in their digital approach.
That's not to say I agree with this at all, though..
And I'm pretty sure the big retailers over there choose the price according to Nintendo's philosophy for including retailers in their digital approach.
That's not to say I agree with this at all, though..
@Noir Trilby: Nintendo offers enough competition to third parties as it is. Valve has a big enough consumer base to just release their own stuff without compromising whoever is releasing stuff through their service. Besides, they don't churn out a third of games Nintendo does. Nintendo has to balance their own games' visibility, appeal and quality with other companies, for without third parties their consoles become a harder sell. They probably should and eventually will have sales on their service, but they must allow the environment to mature enough to avoid cannibalizing other developers' admitedly inferior outings. I currently do not live in either the UK or USA and in my case even at MSRP online acquisition pays off by a huge margin. I would never touch any of GAME's promotions, so big deal.
@Usedtabe But the digital version on borderlands on PSN cost US$20,00, and US$39,00 with all the DLCs, why didn't you picked that up instead?
About the article, yeah, that's just ridiculous. I like to buy digital games when they are on sale or cheap, that's the whole purpose of buying a digital copy, paying less, why would someone pay more for less content?
With the price of that mario game digital copy, you can get Borderlands AND Burnout Paradise on PSN digital.
About the article, yeah, that's just ridiculous. I like to buy digital games when they are on sale or cheap, that's the whole purpose of buying a digital copy, paying less, why would someone pay more for less content?
With the price of that mario game digital copy, you can get Borderlands AND Burnout Paradise on PSN digital.
@EggmaniMN
Man, fuck you. This is a lot of money. Anbody who pays in £ should be annoyed by this, not just Jim.
@tehTommy
Enjoy being raped in the bum by corporations. You seem to enjoy it.
Man, fuck you. This is a lot of money. Anbody who pays in £ should be annoyed by this, not just Jim.
@tehTommy
Enjoy being raped in the bum by corporations. You seem to enjoy it.
@Mike Shadows: Implying that would ever be the case. It's a nice fantasy and all, but publishers aren't going to be more generous once they get more control.
I have NSMB2 on Newegg for $29.99. I'd never pay more or the same for a downloadable game, especially when it's tied to a system and not an ccount. F that.
I would say "Why bother" to this downloadable thing but I'm thinking that Nintendo is hoping to get the people who don't live near enough to a physical retailer and would end up having to pay for shipping anyways. It's a pretty cynical strategy if that's the case. Either way they're not doing it "for the consumer."
It feels like Publishers think of Download Distribution is like a Mini-Fridge at a Hotel.
Sure, you can just go out to a store and get it cheaper, but do you really want to go outside?
Sure, you can just go out to a store and get it cheaper, but do you really want to go outside?
Sucks for anyone who wanted digital, but I wasn't planning on buying it digital. Unless it's on PC, you can always find it cheaper in physical form.
To be fair, isn't the digital version less than the physical in Japan?
If that's the case, we have NO idea how it's going to look in North America.
If that's the case, we have NO idea how it's going to look in North America.
I've been saying this for years. Some gamers, and ALL publishers, can't wait for everything to go digital. We gamers will loose all of the leverage we have, and publishers will gain complete control. For some strange reason, many gamers are willing to give up their rights to the games they own for the convenience. For years I have been saying that when everything goes digital, we will be paying a hell of a lot more for the same games, and it looks like it is starting to come true.
Just look at the facts. Right now on Xbox Live and PSN, there is not a single downloadable retail game that costs less then the same exact game at common retailers like EB games or Best Buy. As a matter of fact, 99% of them actually cost more. Even though, by their own admission, publishers are saving a ton of money by releasing their games digitally, they are passing none of the savings on to us and are infact demanding we pay MORE for less.
Old games are new games alike on Xbox Live and PSN will cost you more to download, than it will to actually buy the real thing at a store. How does this make any sense? This is why games like 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand still costs $60 on Xbox Live, yet only $20 brand new at Gamestop. I have researched this, and not to sound like a broken record, but literally not a single fucking game costs less when compared to the price of the game brand new at a retailer.
And now, Nintendo is joining in. This is why people who aren't idiots don't want everything to go digital. We will end up paying a hell of a lot more for the same exact games. Microsoft, Sony and now Nintendo are proving it right in front of our faces. You can't get and clearer. And when Xbox Live and PSN do reduce prices on digital retail games, it is much, much, much, much slower than what we see at retail.
At retail, when a game is a month or two old, you can guarantee you will find it for $40 or less. The same can not be said for digital versions of those games. They drop in price much, much slower. In 6 months, you will be lucky if you can find it for $5 cheaper on consoles. And no, sales will not happen. When was the last time you saw an awesome Steam-Like sale on Xbox 360 or PS3??
I am talking about a massive, awesome 70% off sale on awesome, new games that you actually wanted to play? Not a sale on 2 year old games? The answer is never, and don't try and say there have been, I've researched this as well. Neither the Xbox 360 or the PS3 have EVER received a sale like Steal sees. Ever. When we do get sales, they are for games that are 1 to 6 years old, and the sales aren't very good.
So, again, why would ANYONE be buying digital versions of retail games? Why support a business model that is ripping you off?
Just look at the facts. Right now on Xbox Live and PSN, there is not a single downloadable retail game that costs less then the same exact game at common retailers like EB games or Best Buy. As a matter of fact, 99% of them actually cost more. Even though, by their own admission, publishers are saving a ton of money by releasing their games digitally, they are passing none of the savings on to us and are infact demanding we pay MORE for less.
Old games are new games alike on Xbox Live and PSN will cost you more to download, than it will to actually buy the real thing at a store. How does this make any sense? This is why games like 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand still costs $60 on Xbox Live, yet only $20 brand new at Gamestop. I have researched this, and not to sound like a broken record, but literally not a single fucking game costs less when compared to the price of the game brand new at a retailer.
And now, Nintendo is joining in. This is why people who aren't idiots don't want everything to go digital. We will end up paying a hell of a lot more for the same exact games. Microsoft, Sony and now Nintendo are proving it right in front of our faces. You can't get and clearer. And when Xbox Live and PSN do reduce prices on digital retail games, it is much, much, much, much slower than what we see at retail.
At retail, when a game is a month or two old, you can guarantee you will find it for $40 or less. The same can not be said for digital versions of those games. They drop in price much, much slower. In 6 months, you will be lucky if you can find it for $5 cheaper on consoles. And no, sales will not happen. When was the last time you saw an awesome Steam-Like sale on Xbox 360 or PS3??
I am talking about a massive, awesome 70% off sale on awesome, new games that you actually wanted to play? Not a sale on 2 year old games? The answer is never, and don't try and say there have been, I've researched this as well. Neither the Xbox 360 or the PS3 have EVER received a sale like Steal sees. Ever. When we do get sales, they are for games that are 1 to 6 years old, and the sales aren't very good.
So, again, why would ANYONE be buying digital versions of retail games? Why support a business model that is ripping you off?
More reasons of why I am against digital distribution because I don't get why some people think that no tangible media is a good idea.
Why not just adopt a model like Valve has with Steam? I'm fine with some idiots paying full retail while I wait and get it for 75% off.
Well Jim, what you say makes sense for you guys in the U.S., other parts of North America and Japan. If you live in almost any other region of the world, like South America, parts of Europe, Asia and Africa, buying a digital copy can be waaaaay cheaper. The places that sell 3DS (and Vita) games for retail in Peru - South America charge between $55 - $70 per game....figure that...
Fight the power!!!!!
How dare a human being determine a downloadable version of a game has the same value as a physical copy!!!
Get the Dtoid community to take silly pictures of their sad frowns and the evildoers in the world will crumble at their feet!!!!
How dare a human being determine a downloadable version of a game has the same value as a physical copy!!!
Get the Dtoid community to take silly pictures of their sad frowns and the evildoers in the world will crumble at their feet!!!!
What the fuck? Is Nintendo suppose to raise/drop the price when ONE retailer decides to mark it down? How does this work again?
I'm in North America, and everywhere I've seen, NSMB2 is 39.99 everywhere, digital and retail. But is Sterling actually saying Nintendo HAS to price their digital version lower because one dwindling brick and mortar chain decided to lower THEIR price?
Can anyone seriously be this stupid?
I'm in North America, and everywhere I've seen, NSMB2 is 39.99 everywhere, digital and retail. But is Sterling actually saying Nintendo HAS to price their digital version lower because one dwindling brick and mortar chain decided to lower THEIR price?
Can anyone seriously be this stupid?
I swear, only Nintendo can make Sony and Microsoft look like their online offerings are actually priced well.
@theswitcher
You realise different places in the world have different currencies right? 40 yen does not equal 40 dollars. Neither does 40 pounds sterling, which is what Jim was referring to.
40 pounds is closer to 65 dollars. Which I'm sure you'd all be glad to pay right?
You realise different places in the world have different currencies right? 40 yen does not equal 40 dollars. Neither does 40 pounds sterling, which is what Jim was referring to.
40 pounds is closer to 65 dollars. Which I'm sure you'd all be glad to pay right?
Exactly. Fucking ridiculous as per usual, I gawp at paying 40 quid for a PS3 game and they sure as hell cost alot more to develop than fucking super mario. Playstation store I think is still trying to charge £49.99 for uncharted 3, I think GT5 started off at 59.99. If RETAILERS who have overhead can afford to charge £29.99 there's no reason Nintendo can't, they oviously don't have to buy DIGITAL STOCK up front because, well, it BARELY EVEN EXISTS.
@Theswitcher.
You realize he's talking UK right so your 39.99 is about £25. Tristrix you filthy troll, you realize us UKers made you and you just had to make your backwards currency up and spell colours wrong to make yourselves feel better.:-P
@Theswitcher.
You realize he's talking UK right so your 39.99 is about £25. Tristrix you filthy troll, you realize us UKers made you and you just had to make your backwards currency up and spell colours wrong to make yourselves feel better.:-P
Why not? We're paying for the privilege of not having to carry a ton of cartridges around anymore. It makes perfect sense. It makes so much sense I'm surprised Nintendo isn't charging £60 and selling them with a limited 6-month license.
@MasterBalls
Shhhh, don't tell him there actually are "different places in the world". You might shatter his entire worldview!
@MasterBalls
Shhhh, don't tell him there actually are "different places in the world". You might shatter his entire worldview!
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