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Well, you could always wait for the 150 GB uncompressed, official texture pack id's artists whined about.
Wow, looks like pure shit!
I can't believe companies don't catch this or for that matter let crap like this see the light of day, dev's are getting lazy as fuck or just sloppy.
Ahh the days before a "patch" was needed to play any game.
I can't believe companies don't catch this or for that matter let crap like this see the light of day, dev's are getting lazy as fuck or just sloppy.
Ahh the days before a "patch" was needed to play any game.
I get lines of artifacts that stream across the screen when ever I move(post driver update 10/5). Its so annoying that I just quit after the first mission, Il just wait till a big patch comes. First Deus Ex HR was almost unplayable and now this. -P.S. just so no one tears me up 2x HD6970s, i7, ect.
"Oh, and you'll want to alter the keyboard controls for vehicles. Someone figured they should control exactly the same as the first-person perspective, which means that you're expected to hit Shift to boost -- which means you'll be taking your finger off "A" and thus can't turn left without enjoying some finger gymnastics. "
Don't you hit the Shift key with your pinky and A with your ring finger?
Don't you hit the Shift key with your pinky and A with your ring finger?
Frankly I've had none of those problems with the game with an exception of the pop-in (though it's only a 10th of a second I see it, enough to notice), running using the BF3 beta drivers and a few console tweaks. The textures look mostly alright but not consistent at all, with quality scaling from acceptable to shitty jpeg, shadows look good enough though and I've not had any artifacting faults.
I just hope id's planning on fixing this fast, that and that Prey 2 doesn't suffer these problems when that comes out.
I just hope id's planning on fixing this fast, that and that Prey 2 doesn't suffer these problems when that comes out.
Isn't this coming from the guys who were like "PC ALWAYS FIRST!"?
Or was that someone else? I can't remember... I'm just going to believe it was and enjoy the bitter coincidence (it's not irony).
Or was that someone else? I can't remember... I'm just going to believe it was and enjoy the bitter coincidence (it's not irony).
Thank you for taking the time to make this article, I wasnt going to get the game at $60, but not it's officially on the "wait for a 10 buck sale on Steam" category, along with everything Ubisoft's ever made.
Isn't shift held with a pinky in WASD schemes? Also, glad I waited on this one, wow! Looks worse than I thought, people do tend to complain (especially PC gamers like myself) but when it's justified, you know it's going to be rough...
Hmm. I'm playing on a slightly weaker system and two things fixed about 95% of that. First, use a 360 contoller. I know that's heresy to PC enthusasts but grow up, consoles are the dominant gaming platform despite anything you think. The controls work like a dream. Second I forced vsync but that only wors if you're using nvidia. I get texture pop in on the extreme edges when I turn but nowhere near as bad as Jim's shot shows (it makes it maybe a quarter inch onto my screen tops, I've tried to get it like that shot and can't) and it seems to go away after about 20 minutes of playing, like it caches or something. I've never seen shadows that nasty and it looks significantly better on my rig.
What's odd to me is my system isn't a monster. It's a 3.2 dual core, 570 GT with 4 gigs RAM. Not a slouch but I'm hearing about people running essentially HAL rigs that are crippled by this stuff. I don't get it.
What's odd to me is my system isn't a monster. It's a 3.2 dual core, 570 GT with 4 gigs RAM. Not a slouch but I'm hearing about people running essentially HAL rigs that are crippled by this stuff. I don't get it.
It's a new engine. I'm not surprised at all. The huge amount of variability in hardware means a lot of the actual testing is done by customers. A beta would have helped a lot, but I didn't hear of one. My guess is that they knew this would happen and didn't want to scare people away.
As for your mouse, Jim Sterling, I don't know what kind of you have, but does it use basic drivers? If you have a gaming mouse with it's own drivers then your "nobody tested anything" comment might not apply.
As for your mouse, Jim Sterling, I don't know what kind of you have, but does it use basic drivers? If you have a gaming mouse with it's own drivers then your "nobody tested anything" comment might not apply.
WTF id?! Carmack!!? the PC tech genius.
for a first game after selling to Zenimax this doesn't look good.
for a first game after selling to Zenimax this doesn't look good.
This mentality of releasing broken products now to make investors happy and -maybe- fixing it later is about as appalling as those textures.
@ jargy1
i wouldn't be surprised if SLI users had issues, it's not unusual to get better performance out of one card than 2 before all the bugs get worked out.
why that's often the case i don't know, i mean don't these people have a QA department?
i wouldn't be surprised if SLI users had issues, it's not unusual to get better performance out of one card than 2 before all the bugs get worked out.
why that's often the case i don't know, i mean don't these people have a QA department?
I've been trying to cancel my preorder, however Steam Support was slow and it came out before I got a reply. Then the reply was that I could download drivers to fix it, and I sent back a message saying that my card wasn't fixed by the drivers ANYWAY. Hopefully they let me get a refund, I didn't even finish preloading it anyway.
@jargy
Real FPS enthusiasts know nothing beats a keyboard and mouse for FPS games. There's nothing wrong with the controls with the PC version (Jim's remarks about the driving controls are off-base and I haven't experienced any issues with sensitivity in the menu) - the problems lie almost entirely with the graphics.
Real FPS enthusiasts know nothing beats a keyboard and mouse for FPS games. There's nothing wrong with the controls with the PC version (Jim's remarks about the driving controls are off-base and I haven't experienced any issues with sensitivity in the menu) - the problems lie almost entirely with the graphics.
This story is amazing. I myself didn't get the game, but I saw a friend playing it and I was happy I missed the bandwagon. Only thing I don't get in the story is this. "you're expected to hit Shift to boost -- which means you'll be taking your finger off "A""
My finger layout when game is, Pinky on shift, Ring on A, Middle on W, Pointer on D, Thumb on Spacebar. I guess it's all comes down to how you place your hand.
My finger layout when game is, Pinky on shift, Ring on A, Middle on W, Pointer on D, Thumb on Spacebar. I guess it's all comes down to how you place your hand.
How could id let this happen? I always thought the PC was their thing, and charging sixty bucks on PC is inexcusable. Not cool Bethesda, not cool.
"the first cutscene is so poorly compressed"
Wait - did they compress this game way down from the console versions to make it easier to download on Steam? Because the cutscene on the XBox version looks fine...
I have a pretty killer PC, so I briefly considered buying the PC version to save some money. Until I found out it was the same price. Good thing - the XBox version is killer on my 65inch TV.
Wait - did they compress this game way down from the console versions to make it easier to download on Steam? Because the cutscene on the XBox version looks fine...
I have a pretty killer PC, so I briefly considered buying the PC version to save some money. Until I found out it was the same price. Good thing - the XBox version is killer on my 65inch TV.
Jim speaks the muthafucking truth on this garbage ass game. Kudos to Jim and Destructoid for being the first that I know of to "out" this shitty port and ID should be ashamed of themselves. +1 to you Jim Sterling and one of your pretty pictures would be a better render than this game!
By the time this is patched to a playable level it'll be like $30. So if you pre-order you end up paying $30 for a broken game with some DLC weapons. I'm done with pre-ordering.
@jargy1
"First, use a 360 contoller. I know that's heresy to PC enthusasts but grow up"
You, sir, can fuck right off. Many folks game on PC because they like using a mouse and keyboard along with having the option to customize their keybindings and control scheme or use a controller if they prefer it. A major part of PC gaming is all the options you have. That's why many of us invest so much into these systems in the first place. So when a developer ignores such expectations and denies us those options, they are effectively eliminating a major benefit to our chosen platform. PC gamers have a right to bitch it, and anyone who willingly accepts it is only a part of the problem.
"First, use a 360 contoller. I know that's heresy to PC enthusasts but grow up"
You, sir, can fuck right off. Many folks game on PC because they like using a mouse and keyboard along with having the option to customize their keybindings and control scheme or use a controller if they prefer it. A major part of PC gaming is all the options you have. That's why many of us invest so much into these systems in the first place. So when a developer ignores such expectations and denies us those options, they are effectively eliminating a major benefit to our chosen platform. PC gamers have a right to bitch it, and anyone who willingly accepts it is only a part of the problem.
@ jargy1
Using a gamepad has 0 to do with console's "dominance". Some games play better with a gamepad others play better with a mouse. some of that is just objective fact, some of it will absolutely be subjective personal preference.
The cool thing about PC gaming is that you are seldom stuck with 1 option. THAT's why we are PC gamers. While options scare average joe gamer, we embrace them. We ask for them. And we hate it when they get taken away.
I've been a PC gamer since the 90's and I happily whip out my gamepad for any 2D platformer, adventure game, etc.
Using a gamepad has 0 to do with console's "dominance". Some games play better with a gamepad others play better with a mouse. some of that is just objective fact, some of it will absolutely be subjective personal preference.
The cool thing about PC gaming is that you are seldom stuck with 1 option. THAT's why we are PC gamers. While options scare average joe gamer, we embrace them. We ask for them. And we hate it when they get taken away.
I've been a PC gamer since the 90's and I happily whip out my gamepad for any 2D platformer, adventure game, etc.
Sorry, you end up paying $60 for a broken game and lame DLC weapons. That's what pre-ordering has become.
"Someone figured they should control exactly the same as the first-person perspective, which means that you're expected to hit Shift to boost -- which means you'll be taking your finger off "A" and thus can't turn left without enjoying some finger gymnastics."
I don't ... what?
I'm trying, but I can't even ...
I don't ... what?
I'm trying, but I can't even ...
do they even bother to test video games at all nowadays? I thought the testing phase was when gamers plunked down their $60.00?
You'd think a company as experienced as id would give pre release code to AMD and NVIDIA.
Shocking lack of care for the community that fucking made them.
Shocking lack of care for the community that fucking made them.
And when people ask why I abandoned PC gaming, I'll have yet another reason to list.
I don't see how anyone can defend the clusterfuck state PC gaming has become. Having marginally better graphics, sometimes, doesn't make this bullshit worth dealing with, all the time.
I don't see how anyone can defend the clusterfuck state PC gaming has become. Having marginally better graphics, sometimes, doesn't make this bullshit worth dealing with, all the time.
I didn't see those issues on my PC. I have very slight edge texture loading issues that you have to be really looking for and moving around a lot. When I'm actually just playing the game, I don't see it at all. I have also forced vsync at the driver level. My game ends up being locked at 60fps with zero tearing. The game actually looks really good. I'm running 2 570s with the beta drivers and an i7 2600. So I'm not saying that there aren't widespread problems, but some of us aren't having any.
Id Software has been known to be creators of engine demos disguised as a game. If they can't even get the engine demo part right, then they are doomed.
I'm glad my new rule is to not by games new until price drops, except on rare occasions. That way I get to hear about shit like this.
I'm glad my new rule is to not by games new until price drops, except on rare occasions. That way I get to hear about shit like this.
@RenegadePanda: Marginally better? You haven't seen a PC game lately. Either that or you are the most easily pleased person and/or are blind.
Id needs to move on rather than continue to produce mediocrities in a genre they practically invented.
Hey Jim learn to tweak settings before you bitch about graphic issues. Sure they should have included them in the menu but few .ini tweaks and game is smooth. LOL at not being able to reach shift while using WASD, that is keyboard gaming 101 right there. You know what other game did what you just spent you entire review complaining about? Pretty much all PC ports have texture issues, again learn to tweak and don't be an asshole about it.
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