No Zelda or Mario before early 2009

They need to bring out some DLC for Mario Galaxy, the potential of extra levels that could be made in that game is infinite.

I'd rather them take time to make the games great than rush them out.

"We have [never neglected] hardcore gamers..."

E3 2008 Press Conference wants a word with you, sir.

P.S. Do you think he even believes his own lies?

Considering the length of time between major Mario releases, I'm not surprised at all. Consider that Galaxy came out in 2007 - we shouldn't be seeing one until at least 2010, in my opinion. A major Zelda sounds on track for Christmas 2009, though.

Still, poor showing, Nintendo: we're expecting this stuff already, and you have nothing to offer us this holiday season. I'm disappointed.

Zelda? AGAIN. Christ, how many times can they repeat the same goddam formula.

No shit there won't be any Mario or Zelda games for a while. They don't release one of them every year because those are quality games that really do take a lot of time. The real question is: WHERE THE FUCK IS KIRBY?

If I had a Wii, given the quality of most of their third-party titles, I would find it more worrying that if it's not Zelda, Mario, or another main franchise Nintendo has nothing to show those over the age of 8.

I would like them to get the games right, like they did with the last Mario and Zelda games. So I am ok to wait. I almost forgot they made real games for the Wii.

Mxyzptlk: "I'd rather them take time to make the games great than rush them out."

Agreed. Let's just hope third-party developers can take up the slack until then.

I really hope they take their time making the next one. They must have rushed the last one since they forgot to make it challenging or fun.

The issue sir is we are concerned with where Nintendo's priorities are. why should we care about our Wii. Thats why people are upset with Nintendo, because nobody can ask for any good first party titles this christmas. I'll be buying a bunch of 360 titles, but I guess the wii will collect more dust until at least summer 09. Seems like Nintendo is no longer interested with selling games for the wii when there are so many consoles to be sold.

My biggest issue is that we get told that 3 games are possible in the works. The Mario and Zelda teams two games and Pikmin. Where is all of this fat cash that the wii makes going? Microsoft finally just produced their first profitable quarter on the 360, but they have been going out and purchasing up new titles or new developers for awhile now. they don't just have 3 teams working on 3 games for the next year. Nintendo used to be all about games. Thats why their virtual console does so well. Now however they seem to be all about accessories and thats a shame.

Nintendo's problem is that they need better 3rd party support so that people have something to play in between Mario and Zelda games.

Casuals win:
E3ALITY

Okay, let's say that Nintendo had released a game that was exactly like Super Mario Galaxy, except that instead of having Mario characters in it, it had new, original characters. Would you "WHY MARIO AGAIN THAT'S SO LAME????!`2`1?2`1?@1`2~!@1`2`" guys have cared more about it then? Let's hypothesize that Super Paper Mario had instead been Super Paper Some Other Guy Who Isn't Mario. Would that have made you all happy in the pants in a way that Mario games don't?

Why the fuck does it matter if it has Mario in it or not as long as it's a good game?

But the thing is, when they release a Mario game, there are a billion complaints about it because it's a Mario game and not something new. Yet, when they do try something new, there are a billion complaints because it's not another new Mario game (or because it isn't like whatever the flavor of the month "hardcore" game happens to be). You so-called "hardcore" guys have pretty much already decided that you are no longer going to be satisfied no matter what they do, and yet you wonder why they don't bother to cater to you anymore. Go figure. You do absolutely nothing whatsoever besides bitch and whine about anything and everything they do, and have been doing so pretty much ever since the Wii was launched and even before that, so why in hell should they cater to you anymore? You will either buy their shit anyway all the while whining and bitching about it, or you won't buy their shit, in which case it's like water off a duck's back to them, because there are plenty of others out there who will. That might twist your panties all into a bunch because there are people out there who dare to buy games that you may consider to be unworthy, but tough shit. Tough fucking shit. You act like Nintendo owes you something. You act like Nintendo is raping your mother because they've decided to make another new Mario or Zelda game instead of a game that has a gun or a tit in it (well, Metroid has both of those, yet you still whine and bitch). You take just about any comment made by anyone connected with Nintendo as though it were a calculated personal insult toward all so-called "hardcore" gamers, no matter how innocuous it may have been. Get over yourselves. Pissing and moaning about it isn't going to change a damn thing*. In fact, if anything, it'll probably make them care even less about you, despite their (futile?) attempts to reassure you that they actually haven't left you behind. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest bit if that did happen.

(* - And me pissing and moaning all the time about you pissing and moaning all the time never seems to change a damn thing either, so I guess none of us have yet learned this lesson. *shrug*)

Wow, I'm Ok. Your assumptions and generalizations are baffling.

The only chance you have of seeing another Mario is when another console is released.

So far, the only system that has had more than one Mario game has been the NES. No other Nintendo home console has ever had more than one, And don't you dare tell me that Yoshi's Island is the Second Mario for SNES. They slapped SMW2 on that because they were scared to death it wouldn't sell otherwise.

There's a good chance you'll see another New Super Mario bros on the DS, and it might translate to Wiiware at some point, but if you're expecting another Galaxy, you'll probably will get it when Wii2 comes out.

Zelda on the other hand has a good chance of getting a second game. They usually make two of those per system.

@SpunkyLoveChild

I'm basing my assumptions and generalizations on personal experience with and observations of this very website. If you're baffled by that, then there's nothing I can do to help you aside from simply pointing you to Destructoid's posts over the past few years, primarily the ones that deal with Nintendo and the Wii (though by no means is the general idiocy limited to that subject alone, I assure you). Or, more to the point, the comments contained therein. Every single example of the retarded behavior of many so-called "hardcore" gamers that I generalized above can be found right there, so I don't give a flying fuck if you think I'm just pulling random shit out of my ass.

And I fully agree with your hypocrite statement. I don't deny it. I ever more frequently bitch about all the pointless, retarded bitching that goes on here all the time, knowing full well that no good will ever come of it, no matter how much I may wish and hope otherwise. I cannot honestly give you a reason why I continue to waste my time here, other than the fact that I've been here since well before the arrival of Robert "World Famous" Summa***, and it's kind of hard to just walk away, try though I might have done in the past. There are still some good people here, believe it or not, ones who can disagree about things without being utter asshats about it. Unfortunately, those people are vastly outnumbered by the general fanboys and trolls and those who (mistakenly) believe that they're all edgy and cool and shit. Even I've been pushed beyond the point where I no longer really give a damn if I'm being an asshat about these kinds things myself, which is another point of hypocrisy on my part, and so I probably should just give it up for good. More and more often, near constantly these days, I just find myself eyerolling at the constant stupidity on display, instead of actually enjoying what I read here. Despite still having its shining moments on occasion, today's Destructoid is but a pale, sad shadow of the Destructoid of the past, overall.

*** - It was at this point when Destructoid's downslide really began, and the stench of his coming and going lingers to this day, unfortunately.