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No prone coming to Battlefield: Bad Company 2 photo

No, going prone won't be an option in Battlefield: Bad Company 2, according to the game's lead writer and designer, David Goldfarb, but feel free to keep asking other questions or throw out feedback about the game.

Earlier last afternoon, Goldfarb made a stunning announcement about the second Bad Company via his Twitter account, saying "FYI: we will not add prone based on anything. You can stop asking now. (smiley face)" -- a point he really didn't have to make considering how prone-resistant EA DICE is. The game's official Twitter account backed Goldfarb up with a re-tweet, and added "but share your feedback with me," which we'll do shortly. The game needs more helicopters.

Source: David Goldfarb's Tweet [@locust9]

Source: Official Battlefield Bad Company 2 Tweet [@OfficialBFBC2]








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50 CAL's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 04:13
50 CAL
Is the game balanced for lean?
Damnation02's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 04:14
Damnation02
As a sniper lover, this is a bad thing for me. As a sniper, prone is your best friend....i don't get it, lean, and now prone, why are developers doing this?
madman0017's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 04:16
madman0017
dolphin diving is gone
Seolfer Wulf's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 04:22
Seolfer Wulf
It wasnt in the first game, Dice made up for this by putting a crap load of waist high bushes for them to crouch in, it works really well to be honest.
Dband14's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 04:39
Dband14
in IRL who the f'ck goes prone besides snipers anyway? nobody! that said, snipers should have the ability to prone. Oh and on the side note, I love people that prone in game, it's the easiest HS... EVAR!
Skribble's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 04:41
Skribble
@Damnation02: A good sniper always changes position, so you shouldn't be in one place long enough to prone anyway; and you get all the accuracy you need from crouching. If you could prone you would just get completely fucked on because of the pace of the battlefield. Seriously.

Prone is good for some games, but this game is perfect without it.
koehler83's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 04:41
koehler83
Care to explain wtf that means for the ignorant among us?
TYFIGHTER's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 04:48
TYFIGHTER
Can you please fix the shitty melee then?
Tyler805's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 04:53
Tyler805
Let me customize the controller. WHY CAN I NOT DO THIS DESIGNERS?
Moeez's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 04:53
Moeez
Who wants prone? It's completely not needed, unless if you're a fucking camper. Plus, there is plenty of cover and grass in these games.
Devils Theory's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 05:23
Devils Theory
Finaly no more campers boy am I glad to hear this
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 05:29
Cowboy TTop
Prone is laying on the ground to snipe. I'd prefer they offer gamers as much as possible, but its their choice I guess. I'll still buy BC2 anyway.

I can't say I've missed it much in the original BC. I still done okay crouching when I played as a sniper. However I find being an assault class is better, more hands on fun.
Janxer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 05:58
Janxer
Wasn't prone in all the pre-bad company BFs?
I don't see their reason for removing it, unless they wanna decrease the ammount of snipers... In which case I can't say they are doing a good job.
Lazerface84's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 06:01
Lazerface84
BC= dumb downed Battlefield, yeah I said it!
Bring on BF3!
DV2FOX's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 06:10
DV2FOX
No prone = You're gonna get RAPED XD
Damnation02's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 06:23
Damnation02
@ Skribble

Usually i hide, prone (takes about one sec<--wouldn't consider that long) take my shot, and move because enemies will be all over the place soon. Still, everyone can notice you much easier if you're crouching or simply standing.

Every developer straves for perfection, and wants his game to sell good. But leaving out basic things won't help. MW2 was picked on because it didn't have lean, and now BC2 will be picked on because it won't have prone. It's not THAT of a big deal, but still, if a game used lean+prone in 2001, why can't games in 2010 use both?
Exrecaller's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 06:30
Exrecaller
For the idiot who asked who the fuck uses prone in real life, well every fucking soldier. What yu think you do if you get ambushed, stay there and wait? shoot like Rambo? No you double tap, find cover then prone or kneel depending on the cover.

Why remove prone from the game? Because Bad Company has been, like pointed out earlier, a dumb out version of the Battlefield series. Small maps for more 'intense' action. Just give me another Battlefield 2142.

Oh and proning works best when you work as a team : one person snipes (IN PRONE POSITION because guess what : that's the only accurate position, IRL and in most of the BF series), the other goes heavy and guards your back.

Removing proning is a testament to the MWisation of shooters. It's BS.
nataneraser's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 06:34
nataneraser
the first one didnt have, so i guess it wont make a difference for console users, however i think it will affect pc gamers :o
TheFlyingEgg's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 07:09
TheFlyingEgg
Aww, I liked prone. That said, much of my time in BF2 was spent lying in some bushes with my rifle and imitating a lump of grass. Gone are the days of having enemies absent-mindedly walking onto me and receive a deadly knife to the foot, it seems.

Oh wells. I imagine it'll encourage people to move about more, which I'm sure will help overall gameplay, and dolphin diving will enrage us no longer. Thumbs up from me.
kylamity's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 07:09
kylamity
Prone = pretending to be dead = gay. Thank you DICE for not requiring that I stare at the ground while I walk.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 07:10
Chronic Logic
THANK YOU GOD!

FUCK YOU "DOLPHIN DIVERS"!!!
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 07:42
Drakengard
Ugh, this is a joke. If a prone guy ever kills me, I blame myself for being stupid, not the person who has gone prone.

Hell, that's one of my major beefs with Killzone. You can't go prone in that game either and it just bothers the hell out of me. There's no excuse for it.
Airbr1dge's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 07:57
Airbr1dge
Snipers! Get your petition on!
Revolutionary's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 07:59
Revolutionary
People who bitch about prone in Bc fall into one of three catagories.

1) Jump shotters

2) People who can't use camo effectively while crouching

3) People who want Bc to become Modern Warfare

I'm just glad they reimplemented parachutes and made the tracer easier to follow. I don't like how they gimped the shotgun. Overall seems like a better game.
Murumasa123's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 08:06
Murumasa123
Demo completely didn't sell me on the game. After playing MAG i found my perfect style of shooting and the destructible environments that they said was better than the original were the same. ALL that was different was when you blew up every bloody wall (apart from a few indestructible pillars) the houses fell down. Meh.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 08:16
Sexualchocolate
Murumasa123
Demo completely didn't sell me on the game. After playing MAG i found my perfect style of shooting and the destructible environments that they said was better than the original were the same. ALL that was different was when you blew up every bloody wall (apart from a few indestructible pillars) the houses fell down. Meh.

- Seconded. I enjoyed the BC2 beta, but I played way more of the MAG beta.

My book goes...

MAG > BFBC2 > MW2

Destructable environments are nice, a welcome addition to the genre, but not all that much better than the clunky destructable environments in BFBC1.
suit's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 08:21
suit
I think that's a good thing, balancing-wise. You don't see a solid sniper anyway 'cause this seems to be the first game where the ghillie suit actually makes a different. That, combined with the unlockable 12x scope and those big ass maps.. Yeah. I wanted prone too, at first. Then I realized I could survive whole matches without getting killed as a sniper, so no sweat.

But no console compromises for mah BF3, DICE. plxplx?
Palin_RMA's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 08:58
Palin_RMA
I love BFBC2 so far and removing the prone is great, it add more balance to the game. I have tried the Mag beta and did not like and can't stand COD any more. BFBC2 forces you to work as a team and not just camp and run around shoot people them repeat.

The graphics are the best I have seen so far.
Palin_RMA's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 09:01
Palin_RMA
Dice said that they are working on BF3, I think it will not be out until end of 2011/2012.
arkangelmty's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 09:26
arkangelmty
Have you even played the game. In the beta I was surprised by how well the camouflage worked. You dont need prone. Just go near some tall grass and you magically disappear. Sometimes I didnt even know where the enemy was until I saw bullets flying out of a bush.
David Bergendorff Hstbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 09:33
David Bergendorff Hstbo
It's not just snipers that prone - machine gunners does it too.
DtoidBadMrK's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 09:39
DtoidBadMrK
Let's all boycott Bad Company 2 for charging for Dedicated Servers in the PC version and not having prone!

Just kidding, quit whining. The developers are doing what they feel is going to make for the best game experience. Just because a previous game had something, doesn't mean it needs to be in every game. Developers cut useless features out of sequels all the time.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 09:55
mix
Good, frogging around and diving over and over and over was not a fun thing to shoot at.
Reien's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 10:07
Reien
Seriously? No prone in a military shooter? lol.
DUGDAWG's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 10:21
DUGDAWG
Ok, that's it. I'm boycotting. The best things in life involve going prone ...
FatherChesz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 10:31
FatherChesz
I'm with Chronic Logic on this one. Dolphin diving bullshit has got to go. If you have to remove prone to make it happen, so be it. If it encourages the attackers to get off their asses and actually fucking attack, instead of sit on the goddamned mountain and snipe the whole match, I'm all for it.
Dyganth's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 10:46
Dyganth
The only thing i'll miss about prone is diving through windows, but I can still crouch jump through most so no big deal.
360COMIC's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 11:02
360COMIC
yeah 'cause, it's not like thats a position you have to qualify in on a military rifle range. right???
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 11:04
Holyetheline
No prone. Oh well...
BurnPianoBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 11:19
BurnPianoBurn
Well as someone who has been playing the demo for some time now, I have to say, I'm glad there is no prone. There's plenty of places to snipe so complaining is pretty retarded. I don't understand how people have fun sitting in one spot prone anyways in a game like this. Hell even in TF2 there's no prone and it still makes Sniper a fun class. It really doesn't matter to me, because snipers in 90% of military games are just pussys who get stabbed in the neck by my knife as I go John Rambo. All my dogtags are from snipers, and I'm gonna keep it that way. The only thing I wish they would fix is the melee cause at times I'll stab someone in the face 3 times before it lets me kill them, and the fact that they should let you customize your characters outfitting like Rainbow 6 Las Vegas 2.
hornetjockey's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 11:21
hornetjockey
No prone is pretty stupid for a tactical shooter. I just don't get it. You create a "realistic" shooter, then act like your soldiers don't know how to lie down on their stomachs, when at least for snipers this is the most common position to shoot from. Dumb.
BurnPianoBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 11:25
BurnPianoBurn
but seriously, lets all camp while everyone else is running around having fun. Sounds like a splendid time for me. I think I'll bring some Teen BOP magazines while I sit on the hill and read them waiting to shoot someone before Johnny Badass comes up from behind and stabs me to death. Sounds like a FANTASTIC PLAN. Keep up the good work snipers, I'll keep on killing you.
hornetjockey's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 11:31
hornetjockey
@BurnPianoBurn

That's the whole damn point of sniping. If you don't want to be a sniper, don't, but having a birds-eye view of the battlefield and taking controlled, calculated shots is the whole point, and the compromise is poor short-range effectiveness. No prone means you aren't concealed at long range AND aren't effective at short range. Even if there are bushes to hide in, it completely takes away from the realism.
Ghost125's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 11:36
Ghost125
in MW2 the prone dind't do nothing to increase the sniper accuracy, EVEN with the snipers like the intervention having those tripods to stabilize it when you are prone, so why so much cry about this? a good sniper won't rely on go prone to kill a lot or be stealed, seriusly ppl chill the fuck out........
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 11:46
runtheplacered
prone or not prone.. I immediately got my refund back on the preorder for this game. The beta is absolutely awful...
hornetjockey's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 11:57
hornetjockey
@Ghost125

MW2 isn't anywhere near being a realistic or tactical shooter, but the prone position is just as much about cover as it is accuracy. Again, snipers are vulnerable, as some of the posters here have been quick to point out. They sit out on their own with their face in a scope. This is why they should be able to go prone.
Canthari's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 12:24
Canthari
I'm not sure how to feel about this, but when I'm a sniper I quickly kill specific targets and move to another place, I have never needed to prone in the beta because campers gets killed easely.

That said i'm loving the new aproach this new Battlefield has taken and I'm sure they will come back to old BF games in the future, I want some variation dammit!
mizzougrad01's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 12:25
mizzougrad01
I'm glad there's no prone. Prone equals more damn snipers camping in the game.
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 12:30
Rammstein
Lol @ all the newbs saying that no prone is a good thing.

Even more LOL @ the newbs saying 'this isn't MW2! No prone!' Pardon me, since when did Modern Warfare invent proning? Proning has been around for ages and is a STAPLE of sniperdom(tm).

Biggest LOL @ the idiots calling snipers pussies or campers. Apparently they've never fired a weapon in real life, much less actually taken a sniper course in the(any) military. That or they've never seen a good sniper movie. Pfft. Noobs.

I suck bawls at sniping but its still fun to me, as much as running into bullets and dying instantly is to you newbs who hate snipers.

Can you tell what side I'm on? :p
Ray Tarded's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/02/2010 13:11
Ray Tarded
[i]People who bitch about prone in Bc fall into one of three catagories.
1) Jump shotters
2) People who can't use camo effectively while crouching
3) People who want Bc to become Modern Warfare[/i]

Ding ding ding... we have a winner.
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