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I'm surprised that Molyneux doesn't do Valve-esque commentaries on his games, discecting his genius.
......technically, Jim. It maybe ISN'T an on rails shooter.
You fully control the horse, like stopping it, turning him, moving him. Horseback riding can be done on kinect oddly. The shooting mechanics might be on-rails, though.
Oh now I sound like sofik. EVERYONE YELL AT ME AND CALL ME A TROLL NOW.
You fully control the horse, like stopping it, turning him, moving him. Horseback riding can be done on kinect oddly. The shooting mechanics might be on-rails, though.
Oh now I sound like sofik. EVERYONE YELL AT ME AND CALL ME A TROLL NOW.
6 months after the game is released, Pete is gonna tell us all that Fable : The Journey was crap because i didn't have melee weapons and guns! But we shouldn't worry 'cause the next Fable will have mini guns and sword wielding corgis.
Even if it is on rails, it still looks fun. Been waiting to use my kinect for something other than kinect sports.
He raises a good point! It's just a shame that that point is pretty much, "You can't do a good feeling melee or ranged combat experience on Kinect, because it'll never actually be any good."
Kinect may be an embarrassment and ruining the console for hardcore gamers as instead of decent, deep games, all we're getting now is this shallow bullshit, but at least Microsoft are making money.
*sigh*
Kinect may be an embarrassment and ruining the console for hardcore gamers as instead of decent, deep games, all we're getting now is this shallow bullshit, but at least Microsoft are making money.
*sigh*
It’s not on rails.
It is however on tracks, conduits, channels, corridors, aisles, strips, routes, and incredibly restrictive paths. But not on rails.
It is however on tracks, conduits, channels, corridors, aisles, strips, routes, and incredibly restrictive paths. But not on rails.
"We could have done melee weapons, but the one thing I hate about melee weapons, and guns as well, is that the human brain is encoded to expect recoil from those things”
That's because people are usually holding a controller, you jackass.
That's because people are usually holding a controller, you jackass.
For all his bluster he does make a valid point that's an issue with all the main motion controllers - no force feedback for certain actions. It's something that is almost impossible to implement; the feel of swords clashing for example.
Also, as someone has pointed out already, is it really on rails if you can control the movement of the horse? Genuine question as I really haven't been following this. Are you in full control or is it a glorified 'choose your path' system which has been in on rails shooters for years.
"In other words, Kinect is too restrictive to do much beyond on-rails shooters."
I know you're deliberately taking that conclusion for comedic effect, and it's likely not your actual view (at least I'd hope not), but it's worth stating that that plainly isn't true. Kinect has yet to produce more than 1 or 2 decent games (and that's debatable), but the technology is certainly there to do some interesting stuff. You only have to look at the mods people have pulled together on PC for it.
Hell I bought one purely to use it with After Effects as a rudimentary, semi-novel, 3D scanner.
Also, as someone has pointed out already, is it really on rails if you can control the movement of the horse? Genuine question as I really haven't been following this. Are you in full control or is it a glorified 'choose your path' system which has been in on rails shooters for years.
"In other words, Kinect is too restrictive to do much beyond on-rails shooters."
I know you're deliberately taking that conclusion for comedic effect, and it's likely not your actual view (at least I'd hope not), but it's worth stating that that plainly isn't true. Kinect has yet to produce more than 1 or 2 decent games (and that's debatable), but the technology is certainly there to do some interesting stuff. You only have to look at the mods people have pulled together on PC for it.
Hell I bought one purely to use it with After Effects as a rudimentary, semi-novel, 3D scanner.
"Are you in full control, or is it a glorified 'choose your path' system the like of which has been in on-rails shooters for years."
Is what I meant to say. Apologies, shoddy proof-reading.
Is what I meant to say. Apologies, shoddy proof-reading.
Am I the only one that's inclined to wait until the game is out to start declaring what it is or isn't?
Am I the only one that's inclined to wait until the game is out to start declaring what it is or isn't?
Am I the only one that's inclined to wait until the game is out to start declaring what it is or isn't?
Am I the only one that's inclined to wait until the game is out to start declaring what it is or isn't?
It feels like Kinect is being forced on him by Microsoft. I don't see how he could think turning Fable into an on-rails shooter is a good idea.
Well as long as you can control the horse
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...I'm in
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...I'm in
God Damn it Peter, I defended you and now I'm the fool*insert Room clip*
I can't say he doesn't have a point to some degree but I just wish he would shush. It really doesn't bother me though. Its the same thing with David Cage: I ignore what they say and enjoy their games.
I can't say he doesn't have a point to some degree but I just wish he would shush. It really doesn't bother me though. Its the same thing with David Cage: I ignore what they say and enjoy their games.
Nice approach to the device limitation. Still interested in what this turns out to be. (though I would like a better proper Fable)
Peter Molyneux: making one of the best cases for force feedback I've heard in some time! What's that about Kinect, now?
OK. I've officially vomited up any Molyneux Kool-Aid that I drank. He's so full of shit, I can't believe he's still taken seriously in the industry. Yes, Black & White and Populous were great games, Fable was good and everything after that was...less good.
He's really descended in to self-parody at this point.
The Molyneux Formula
1) Make claims how revolutionary your game will be.
2) Release game that fails to live up to hype.
3) Explain how last game was a disappointment, but the next one will be great.
4) Profit.
He's really descended in to self-parody at this point.
The Molyneux Formula
1) Make claims how revolutionary your game will be.
2) Release game that fails to live up to hype.
3) Explain how last game was a disappointment, but the next one will be great.
4) Profit.
"The thing about magic is there’s nothing encoded in your mind about how it should feel."
Except I expect magic to have power and some kind of recoil. If you're shooting fireballs from your palm, it's not just gonna cruise out like a bubble. It's gonna come out like a fireball.
Except I expect magic to have power and some kind of recoil. If you're shooting fireballs from your palm, it's not just gonna cruise out like a bubble. It's gonna come out like a fireball.
I dunno while people are so quick to shit on this game. For a little spin-off on rails game, looks kinda fun.
The thing about melee is we expect 1 to 1 action from the Kinect which it doesn't do very well... by using magic or ranged, we make the motion... and see the results in the distance so the lag factor of using the Kinect is less noticeable.
It still seems to be "dumbing down" the game in order to utilize Kinect. There will be fewer options for battle and movement than in previous iterations of the game. They might have been better to do an offshoot "Fable Kinect" game rather than make the next game in the series molded to suit Kinect because this has dimmed any excitement for the next game in the series for me. :(
It still seems to be "dumbing down" the game in order to utilize Kinect. There will be fewer options for battle and movement than in previous iterations of the game. They might have been better to do an offshoot "Fable Kinect" game rather than make the next game in the series molded to suit Kinect because this has dimmed any excitement for the next game in the series for me. :(
The only thing Molyneux is good for is hype and promising players an experience that can't be delivered on. He hasn't made a decent game in years and I don't know why he gets as much face time as he has.
Man, this is going to be hilarious when it comes out.
A friend of mine is a Fable nut. Dunno why, but she loves the series. Bought an Xbox for Fable, bought an Xbox 360 for Fable 2, etc. She's going to buy a Kinect, just for this.
I'm going to be drinking her tears with my drink instead of Angstura, because they'll be more bitter.
A friend of mine is a Fable nut. Dunno why, but she loves the series. Bought an Xbox for Fable, bought an Xbox 360 for Fable 2, etc. She's going to buy a Kinect, just for this.
I'm going to be drinking her tears with my drink instead of Angstura, because they'll be more bitter.
I never played the original Fable, but Fable 2 was good fun. Fable 3 is sitting on my shelf waiting for me to get around to it. This game simply doesn't look intriguing in any manner whatsoever, Kinect functionality or not.
As someone already stated, instead of forcing Kinect on games, it should be used to augment the experience and enrich it (like what it appears Bioware is attempting with Mass Effect 3). Instead of making the entire game Kinect-only, they could have made a traditional Fable game where, if you had Kinect, you could use it to cast magic spells instead of pressing a button if you so chose. It would expand the controller options and allow for more robust and customizable controls instead of greatly reducing both control and gameplay opportunities.
If Microsoft wants Kinect to be taken seriously by core gamers, they need to stop making this type of game and embrace the type of integration Bioware is producing.
As someone already stated, instead of forcing Kinect on games, it should be used to augment the experience and enrich it (like what it appears Bioware is attempting with Mass Effect 3). Instead of making the entire game Kinect-only, they could have made a traditional Fable game where, if you had Kinect, you could use it to cast magic spells instead of pressing a button if you so chose. It would expand the controller options and allow for more robust and customizable controls instead of greatly reducing both control and gameplay opportunities.
If Microsoft wants Kinect to be taken seriously by core gamers, they need to stop making this type of game and embrace the type of integration Bioware is producing.
oh look. Jim Sterling - the ultimate Kinect hater comments on a game he:
- didn't see,
- didn't play,
unlike several dozens of journalists who confirmed that game is not on rails. troll more.
can we please make a rule which states that Jim Sterling can't publish anything related to Kinect on destructoid?
- didn't see,
- didn't play,
unlike several dozens of journalists who confirmed that game is not on rails. troll more.
can we please make a rule which states that Jim Sterling can't publish anything related to Kinect on destructoid?
This man hasn't made an original game since Dungeon Keeper. These interviews with him are great for laughs though.
Hahaha! Everyone needs to get off this man's jock immediately. He has not done anything top-quality in AGES. He has marginalized himself and his titles have been average at best of late--why the fuck do people still act like he has more genius left in him somewhere buried underneath all of the fucking hype 'n' lies!!??
Also, Molyneux has already said a dozen different ways that the Kinect sucks and he can't make the kind of game he wants without a controller. If this game is complete garbage, it's MS's fault for forcing it to exist in the first place.
@Xzyliac,
except fom the fact that E3 stage demo only showcased 2 activities that were made specifically for that demo. all journalists who tested the game got demo of the actual full game with free movement and so on. Molyneux and nearly 50 journalists who tested the game admited that it was free roam game(as in you can move everywhere you like) - demo was on-rails simply because they wanted to showcase the game (which was in very early alpha stage) on stage without any hiccups, bugs and awkward moments, and because they didn't have finalized controls yet. he admited himself that the game was only 4 months in the works at that time.
except fom the fact that E3 stage demo only showcased 2 activities that were made specifically for that demo. all journalists who tested the game got demo of the actual full game with free movement and so on. Molyneux and nearly 50 journalists who tested the game admited that it was free roam game(as in you can move everywhere you like) - demo was on-rails simply because they wanted to showcase the game (which was in very early alpha stage) on stage without any hiccups, bugs and awkward moments, and because they didn't have finalized controls yet. he admited himself that the game was only 4 months in the works at that time.
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