surf dtoid with 
Rising (10+)
People you follow
Oh yeah, so let's release it in the fall instead when all the AAA games are coming to the 3DS. People are SURE to buy it then when it's a choice between Cave Story or Mario Land.
@Timstuff
AAA has nothing to do with review score, and never has. It's a value assigned to games for the sake of retailers, so they can tell at a glance which titles are big budget, high profile releases with a lot of marketing support behind them. AAA means basically that it's a must-stock item.
It has nothing to do with quality.
And I do not understand why people think Cave Story should have released when almost no one had a 3DS, and when no one wanted to stock non-AAA 3DS releases. That makes no sense to me.
AAA has nothing to do with review score, and never has. It's a value assigned to games for the sake of retailers, so they can tell at a glance which titles are big budget, high profile releases with a lot of marketing support behind them. AAA means basically that it's a must-stock item.
It has nothing to do with quality.
And I do not understand why people think Cave Story should have released when almost no one had a 3DS, and when no one wanted to stock non-AAA 3DS releases. That makes no sense to me.
Sounds like an excuse to me. Considering alot of small games have already gone retail and made profit
I think this is about Margins or deals. I'm sure NIS could have gotten tons of copies of Cave Story on shelves, but it's the margins that NISA was wanting from it. I don't think Bust A Move 3D costs Best Buy more than $10 a copy (if that). This might cost them $15-20.
@Tony,
If they sold super well around you, you wouldn't be seeing any Super Bust A Move 3D since it hasn't been in production since launch and the units still floating around are literally 7 months old.
Of course all of that is moot to this simple point. Publishers has said this is a problem. Retailers have said this is a problem. Developers have said this is a problem. Gamers have said this is a problem. Nintendo has even said this was a problem. But Tony stands alone to declare, "I don't know what THEY'RE talking about..." You realize when even Nintendo has state this is a problem, that's a special kind of delusion you have going on, right?
If they sold super well around you, you wouldn't be seeing any Super Bust A Move 3D since it hasn't been in production since launch and the units still floating around are literally 7 months old.
Of course all of that is moot to this simple point. Publishers has said this is a problem. Retailers have said this is a problem. Developers have said this is a problem. Gamers have said this is a problem. Nintendo has even said this was a problem. But Tony stands alone to declare, "I don't know what THEY'RE talking about..." You realize when even Nintendo has state this is a problem, that's a special kind of delusion you have going on, right?
They aren't wrong, if i ever want a DS title not published by Nintendo, Activision, EA or Square-Enix i have to get it online as retailers don't stock them.
Viva MGSHDCAVESTORY3D! Down with MW3!
Though, anybody else actually thinking of going to the midnight release to troll Activision by purchasing Cave Story?
Though, anybody else actually thinking of going to the midnight release to troll Activision by purchasing Cave Story?
Trying to find Bit.Trip Saga anywhere has been an impossible feat for me. I'm gonna have to break down and order it online if I actually want it.
This is why small publushers stay small publishers until they get absorbed and gutted.
There was nothing coming out around the price drop time frame. Releasing then would have been perfect. Especially if it reviewed well because nothing came out but low quality crap like cubic ninja.
Now its going to share a shelf, and a price point,with 3d land and mariokart.
Good plan, guys.
There was nothing coming out around the price drop time frame. Releasing then would have been perfect. Especially if it reviewed well because nothing came out but low quality crap like cubic ninja.
Now its going to share a shelf, and a price point,with 3d land and mariokart.
Good plan, guys.
Funny problem that comes with the 3DS is that 95% of the games for it so far for it couldn't be truly called AAA, including some of its big name Nintendo made games, because of the complete lack of quality and substance that would normally go into a game for a Nintendo handheld in lue of the 3D effect that seems to be holding everyone, including developers, back.
In fact I'd go as far as to say, with the 3DS, AAA is just a state of mind that comes with overcoming some sort of internal sales hurdle (at this point it seems this could be the case even for Nintendo)
I'm not saying this means good things for Cave Story 3D, which is of course sad (I think it wouldn't do well any time of year, but a November release date, being so close to both Mario 3D and Mario Kart, is a VERY BAD move), but at least, mentally, NIS can say they aren't the only ones in this camp.
@Tony
"Yet those games are still stocked right there on the 3DS software shelves and not in some clearance bin at the entrance of the store."
Bargain bins seem to be something of a blurred line these days, however. The bargain bin that only ever really brings in the confused non-gamer family member who doesn't know better, and drives away gamers who generally know these games are there because they're usually shovelware, has been veiled by the "its still on the shelf, but its got an awesome sale ticket attached to it" style of pricing. Its all a psychological game retailers play with their customers and its put there to trick those who usually know better. Any game can weave in and out of clearance status with the wave of a BOGO deal or the sharp cut of a sales price without ever touching the danger zone of a grimy, quickly put together, steel cage.
I mean look at the pricing and deals even Amazon's used to get rid of 3DS games, there's been many since its launch about 7 months ago -far to many then there should ever have been. They don't even want to outright say they're clearance items just yet, but they're trying to give out at a hurried pace like they're not worth all that much all the same. Hell, Star Fox 3D was included in one such sale not even a week into its release, and I'm positive that was to get people even remotely interested in paying half off (or whatever the sale was) for the other games on the list.
In fact I'd go as far as to say, with the 3DS, AAA is just a state of mind that comes with overcoming some sort of internal sales hurdle (at this point it seems this could be the case even for Nintendo)
I'm not saying this means good things for Cave Story 3D, which is of course sad (I think it wouldn't do well any time of year, but a November release date, being so close to both Mario 3D and Mario Kart, is a VERY BAD move), but at least, mentally, NIS can say they aren't the only ones in this camp.
@Tony
"Yet those games are still stocked right there on the 3DS software shelves and not in some clearance bin at the entrance of the store."
Bargain bins seem to be something of a blurred line these days, however. The bargain bin that only ever really brings in the confused non-gamer family member who doesn't know better, and drives away gamers who generally know these games are there because they're usually shovelware, has been veiled by the "its still on the shelf, but its got an awesome sale ticket attached to it" style of pricing. Its all a psychological game retailers play with their customers and its put there to trick those who usually know better. Any game can weave in and out of clearance status with the wave of a BOGO deal or the sharp cut of a sales price without ever touching the danger zone of a grimy, quickly put together, steel cage.
I mean look at the pricing and deals even Amazon's used to get rid of 3DS games, there's been many since its launch about 7 months ago -far to many then there should ever have been. They don't even want to outright say they're clearance items just yet, but they're trying to give out at a hurried pace like they're not worth all that much all the same. Hell, Star Fox 3D was included in one such sale not even a week into its release, and I'm positive that was to get people even remotely interested in paying half off (or whatever the sale was) for the other games on the list.
cave story 3d must come out in the us. i loved that game ang it would be a real shame to see it shot down when you see some of the games retailors have on their shelves.
I played Cave Story for the first time on oxycontin. Not a freaking clue what the heck i was doing, but I think I was a rabbit and I killed a briefcase.
follow
