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Nipping the Resident Evil 6 complaints in the bud photo

Okay guys, this is our second time at the rodeo, this shit should not be happening. 

Resident Evil 6 was revealed less than twenty-four hours ago, and online folk are already churning out the same arguments we had when Resident Evil 5 was announced.

I mean, really? We're still complaining about the inability to move and shoot at the same time in a Resident Evil game? Didn't we have these debates already? Didn't we all lose, because we're morons? Has it even been confirmed you can't move and shoot? Trailer seems to indicate you might!

In any case, being unable to move and shoot is the difference between a straight action game and a real horror/action hybrid. We scientifically proved this years ago. No asshole can accurately score a headshot while running. Trained professionals certainly wouldn't attempt something so stupid. It ... wait, why am I doing this? Why am I getting into the argument again? You see how easy it is to get started? Don't start! Bad dog! Stop! Don't make me get the newspaper!

Also, we're already complaining that it's in China, and that the president is white. Please don't let this become another racism thing, were idiots say something dumb and then we say Resident Evil 4 was set in Spain and nobody complained. For the love of all that is sexy. Don't do it. You have the power to end this. Say NO to movement and racism arguments in Resident Evil 6. It never ends well. 








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Zaheer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:07
Zaheer
This post. SO MUCH THIS POST!
Klarden's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:09
Klarden
Well, i have no problems with move and shoot arguments and never had. Move and aim, though...
Anyway, it's hard to decipher anything about gameplay for sure yet. So, i'm surprised (i'm not, actually), people are arguing about gameplay of the game they haven't actually seen clearly yet.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:10
Chris Carter
Jim, but you forgot the fact that many fans complain that RE5 was "too actioney", despite the fact that it "wasn't actioney enough because of the tank controls.

Personally, I thought RE5 was just fine, as was RE4. How many "pure survival horror" entries do we have elsewhere in the series? If you count both Outbreaks; tons. I didn't have any issue with them moving in an action oriented direction, and it seems like they've moved back with RE: Revelations. I don't know about you, but as a fan of the series since the very first one came out on PS1, I don't mind a little variation.

Also, the racism thing was blown out of proportion basically by N'Gai Croal. Since there isn't an Asian equivalent of N'Gai Croal out there in games journalism, I don't think anyone will care about RE6's "racism" that much.
Sonintega's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:15
Sonintega
Of course the president is white in RE: Leon saves the president's daughter in RE4, who's a white chick, as a personal favor to the pres. That's the same guy in the video, which by all accounts looks totally badass. I'm curious to see how the two story lines work together, and how awkward it'll be to jump from one country to another, but nothing in the trailer says the game is going to turn out to be shit.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:15
Sexualchocolate
This game, it is a game, designed how the designers wanted to design it.


Buy it. Or don't buy it. Whatevs.
LibrarianMike's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:16
LibrarianMike
Needs to be more like Amy. Now that's some proper Survival Horror, that.
UltorOscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:16
UltorOscariot
Can you imagine the fury if the president was black, looked more like Obama, and you had to take him down because he became a zombie, which seemed implied by the trailer? Capcom would by lynched.
UltorOscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:17
UltorOscariot
Can you imagine the fury if the president was black, looked more like Obama, and you had to take him down because he became a zombie, which seemed implied by the trailer? Capcom would be lynched.
viewtifulmom's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:17
viewtifulmom
"Please don't let this become another racism thing" said the video game journalist.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:17
SephirothX
Being unable to move and shoot is the difference between a straight action game and a real horror/action hybrid

Bullshit. Dead Space forever made that defense invalid.

The RE "tank controls" are just non-intuitive bad controls that don't heighten tension at all, they're an excuse to get away with really terrible enemy AI.
Themuad's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:18
Themuad
I dont really care about the setting and plot of a resident evil game, it could be set completley in a circus but we would still somehow wind up in a secret research facility anyway.

But the quick time events... man RE5 broke me, i just cant do QTE´s anymore. So thats what im intrested in learning, does it have them, are they as heavily used.
Irish451's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:18
Irish451
My only "complaint" is Leon is paired with another girl instead of Barry Burton. You could call it Resident Evil: Burton Broventure
Kyogissun's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:19
Kyogissun
So many people are raging but I gotta be honest, I'm hyped as fuck. The wait for November is gonna suck big time.

Also, Leon looks alpha as fuck.
Pomguo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:20
Pomguo
Super fucking excited for this game. Everything about it is ticking the right boxes for me. And really? A game set in Modern China, that actually looks accurate on the ground level? This shit is exactly what the doctor ordered.

Thanks for the excellent post as usual, Jim.
BuBBeR's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:20
BuBBeR
You guys noticed that you CAN walk and shoot now right? right.
Klarden's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:21
Klarden
Explaining my "Move and aim" thing above: Silent Hill 1, which is a survival horror by all means, allowed to move and aim at the same time. Even move and shoot... the gun and the sawed-off shotgun. But your aim and walking speed worsend while moving and you couldn't move and shoot with the hunting rifle. Did it make the game more "actiony", nope. It was amazingly balanced. And it can be done even with the manual aim over-the-shoulder survival action games.
Street Flighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:22
Street Flighter
I never got the movement-shooting complaint thing. There isn't any need for it in Resi Evil. I seriously cannot see what great advantage would be gained from it. With the scarcity of ammo you really need to take proper aim anyway.
Zantetsuken's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:23
Zantetsuken
The only complaint I have about it is that it still doesn't look like a RE game. The trailer did a great job of raising my hopes with Leon and Zombies + creepy setting only to crush it spectacularly with Chris and some bald dude karate kicking through hoards of choreographed cannon fodder. 5 wasn't scary because you never felt like you were at a disadvantage as the Plagas practically haemorrhaged ammo and gold.

I didn't like 5 and this just looks like more of the same cookie cutter "lets appeal to the CoD crowd" action bullshit.
Dr-Peace's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:24
Dr-Peace
For once Jim, I agree.


Trained firearm users do NOT run and shoot, it does NOT work.

That said, it is possible to walk and shoot and get slighty better than completely horrible accuracy, I'm pretty sure Revelations on the 3DS does this and it would be cool to have in RE6.

The whole 'stop and pop' shooting style is at least MORE realistic than the whole 'man as jetfighter' style most games have these days. The RE games have 'fight or flight' combat, where it's easy to run out of ammo (even in RE5 at some points), you have to aim for different sections of the body and use the environment to the full... or just run for your life. The gameplay is still unlike nearly anything out there.

Anyone who thinks the RE series is racist is crazy. It's always the corporations or religeons that have been portrayed as evil in RE games, not the zombified people themselves. Africa is full of black people, therefore RE5 had lots of black zombies, it's quite that simple.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:26
EternalDeathSlayer
Uhhh.....They're in China with Chris, but Leon and the President seem to be in America....Because they're American....And it's the American President.

I thought that was all pretty obvious. Also, it seems that Leon, while being action focused in his own right, will follow a more Resident Evil 4 type of path. His scenes seemed darker and s bit more atmospheric. Chris seemed like he was doing some Army shit.

And what's the deal with this other character? Is that Ashley in the trailer with him?
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:27
KingSigy
I remember the RE5 racism complaints. It made no sense since the game was in Africa, where the majority of the population is African! Still, Capcom buckled and we had random white guys in the hordes.

I suppose the only thing to do is make a game of killing entirely white people. Oh wait, those exist!
beema's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:29
beema
I didn't complain about any of that shit. I'm just mortified at the prospect of Ashley from RE4 making a return.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:30
Tubatic
Hey. Just popping into point out, against Magnalon's assertion, that the RE5 racism thing got blown out of proportion by RE fans that couldn't handle N'Gai honest, personal and requested reaction. People see what they see. Deal with it. Nobody reasonable asked for anything to be changed. Lets not effing witch hunt here.

Gosh Darn It.
FrankYorkMorgan's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:32
FrankYorkMorgan
I'm so happy about dem zombies I have nothing to complain about.
rogXue's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:34
rogXue
What a bunch of whiny bitches. Same asshats that pissed and moaned about this with RE5 LOVED RE5. So please take your wittle bwankie and fucking hang yourself with it. K? Thanks!
RowdyRodimus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:36
RowdyRodimus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqEIt-rQqbM
Hystzen's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:36
Hystzen
Im hyped i think RE5 hate is mis guided it was just a average game neither awful or great.

this looks great can't wait see more of Alex Wesker doing his kung fu on zombies with Ashely and Ada gameplay parts
LazyAza's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:36
LazyAza
People are already bitching? really? wow. And here I thought everything about it looked effing bad ass.
LibrarianMike's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:39
LibrarianMike
Anyone who complains about Ashley as an escort is officially mot allowed to like Ico. Fucking god damn Yorda...
Mischa Joakim Sildn's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:42
Mischa Joakim Sildn
Why not make it this way,
You can move and shoot at the same time BUT, it would decrease the player's accuracy and hide the cursor.

Problem solved?
Psptwo Roundup's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:43
Psptwo Roundup
Just miffed Capcom still think this should be a PS3/360 only game - the portables have the power too now!
Discount Tent Ed's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:43
Discount Tent Ed
Don't worry, it is going to be more action based to attract COD fans, there are articles around saying this
tremault's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:44
tremault
I just love when he says "this is raccoon city all over again!" that is all I need. Resident evil 2 was the game that prompted me to buy my first console (as in, not a gift) I waited at the store at the midnight launch and bought my first playstation and resident evil 2. This has been a long time coming.

and people are complaining about a resident evil control style? then go play Left for Dead you frikkin' morons. Stop trying to ruin it for the rest of us who love a game for what it is.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:45
HEL105
Resident Evil was good.
Resident Evil 2 was good.
Resident Evil 3 was good.
Resident Evil: Code Veronica was good.
Resident Evil 4 was good.
Resident Evil 5 was good.
I feel safe assuming that Resident Evil 6 will be good, too.
HEL105's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:49
HEL105
Oops, forgot to add Zero and the remake (both also good).
Panzadolphin56's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:52
Panzadolphin56
I thought RE6 looked quite good :/
DrNo0's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:52
DrNo0
i thought the trailer looked pretty awesome compared to re5
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:52
The Silent Protagonist
I thought I had been over this as well.

RE stories are stupid. Its not a bad thing, but why do people take all the stupid of RE so seriously?

I mean, I've never understood why its important that each game has to have zombies. After fighting the upteenth giant [insert animal here], weird Lovecraftian looking beasts work, too. T-Virus, G-Virus, Plagas and Uroburos - all fair game. We shot every zombie of every race before we left and eventually nuked Raccoon City before shooting French zombies, Spanish/Amish plagas thralls and later African ones.

Its all stupid shit and I'm OK with that - I just don't take it seriously. If I wanted a candidate to show video games were art or can have great substance to them, I wouldn't pick the Resident Evil ones and that's OK.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:58
Chris Carter
@Tubatic
I'm just glad that N'Gai Croal made the transition into consulting; it suits him better.

As for the witch hunting, Jim basically stated "I hope no one calls racism on this one". My response was "that was basically only N'Gai Croal". If anything, he was the witch-hunter, saying black people "probably" didn't work on the game without fact-checking and making a big deal about it.

In short, I agree with Jim's response here, long long ago. Funnily enough Jim called it - RE:6 to be set in China.
Jawmuncher's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:59
Jawmuncher
You can move and shoot in RE6.

Most complaints I read are its not scary. Which I promptly tell people to shut up. Since people are STILL going revelations isnt scary and that's been confirmed to be a horror game especially from reviews.
Not to mention the press release even says re6 will be a horror game.
Mafflez's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 08:59
Mafflez
I liked RE5 but what killed it was the co-op I think, the game didn't have its survival atmosphere, it was a good game and a good entry but a co-op in this where the team is split up, at points anyway, sorta like gears would be nice...leon I'm glad is making a return and instead of chris had a diff char. I like the stop and pop mechanics, cause when you run out of ammo, your using your knife, there's no way to pull of run and gun without adding shit piles of ammo...excited to see what they have in store...
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:01
EdgyDude
I'll never tire of repeating this: i don't care if it's "actiony", i don't care if you have to stop to shoot, i don't care if the pres/enemies are black, white, asian or fucking martian if they so choose, JUST DON'T MAKE IT A FORCED A DAMN CO-OP CAMPAIGN
NoJ87's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:01
NoJ87
Still going to bitch that it looks like Gears of Evil.
able to think's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:02
able to think
You can move and shoot in Revelations and it looks to be more horror then this. Just saying.
Aurvant's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:05
Aurvant
All i'm saying is that if an engineer can precisely sever arms and decapitate mutated heads while walking backwards or forwards then a highly trained military/paramilitary operative could do the same.
Andrew VS's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:05
Andrew VS
Whatever, played 4 it felt like a departure from the re core, played 5, really felt it was more action oriented or maybe just more frantic based fear than a fear based on uneasiness and seclusion. Seems like this will mix the two with Leon being more oldschool re amd Chris being the run and gunnish type... Meh either way it will look gorgeous and I will shoot me some bio turds in the face.
Tlack's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:07
Tlack
test ignore
Gabriel Silverwolf's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:08
Gabriel Silverwolf
Well said, Jim. I for one will not indulge the whiners or feed the trolls. The trailer promises an awesome game, and I can't wait to get my hands on it. End of story.
tremault's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:11
tremault
I noticed that some people are saying that Ashley is in this, but I have not seen Ashley.. do they mean the blonde girl? I thought that was Rebecca. sure, her hair was darker originally but she can dye it. she looks like Rebecca, her voice sounds like Rebecca and she is obviously trained. Ashley was not trained.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/20/2012 09:14
Occams electric toothbrush
I should really learn my lesson and stop being surprised at people on the internet. Sometimes I think they just get off on being negative which is sad. Resident Evil 5 was fine and I enjoyed it "tank controls" and all. I'm sure Resident Evil 6 will be a lot of fun and I can't wait to get back to a city for my zombie killing.
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