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I am really looking forward to the Skyward Swords. The art direction is fucking fantastic. Plus it's motherfucking Zelda.
Wow, I LOVE that response. "We did release an updated Wii. It was red. And it sold fan-fucking-tastic."
When asked about improving their product, he says that they made a red one? I think Nintendo has decided they've made enough money on the Wii that there is no need to invest more into it. My guess is that they've kind of left it on it's own to focus on the 3DS. Continued Wii sales are just icing on the cake. The Wii will always sell great at Christmas, because parents will be attracted to the cheapest console, and Nintendo advertises the kind of games that parents want their kids to play, but the slow down over the rest of the year is likely to continue unless they do something beside just releasing new colors.
Oops, did I just suggest that the Wii might one day slow down, in a Jim Sterling thread? People, including him, are probably frowning up right now, and reaching for their keyboards in anger.
Oops, did I just suggest that the Wii might one day slow down, in a Jim Sterling thread? People, including him, are probably frowning up right now, and reaching for their keyboards in anger.
I think he's right in a sense; aside from brand loyalty why would you buy a system unless there's plenty of content for it, be it retail games or things like Netflix or other online services.
But yeah, a red Wii...... I mean it's nice looking and all...
But yeah, a red Wii...... I mean it's nice looking and all...
He makes a good point about the software. Nintendo has always had a stable of first party devs that make the most "pure fun" games in the biz, in my opinion.
Only Nintendo could be so smug about releasing the same effin franchise titles over and over. "How do you feel about kinect?" "We have mario, and tonight I am eating lobster"
You know why Xbox and PS3 are great? Because they don't piggyback their consoles on recycled 1st party franchises. Damn nintendo, could you at least look like you're trying?
You know why Xbox and PS3 are great? Because they don't piggyback their consoles on recycled 1st party franchises. Damn nintendo, could you at least look like you're trying?
His response to the Kinect question was something like "we still selling Wii consoles, why would we care about Kinect?" or so I felt his answer. Wise words from Reggie!
I have to give credit to Reggie, that was one of the most professional responses i've heard when he was asked about rival kinect. Nicely said sir.
@bluerob- right, they just piggyback off sequels from third-parties. As for recycled 1st party franchises, what the fuck do you call Halo & Gears of War then? I guess Killzone and Uncharted are like 5th party franchises or something.
I have to give credit to Reggie, that was one of the most professional responses i've heard when he was asked about rival kinect. Nicely said sir.
It's sad that this sort of thing needs to be said at all, but with the tech-and-trend obsessed culture that gaming is enveloped by, it's always a struggle to refocus people on what matters; the games.
Motion controls don't really matter. 3D doesn't really matter. HD doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters is games. Fun, exciting videogames.
I find that a lot of CEOs, analysts, and even some game journalists, seem to forget that. I guess if you don't actually play videogames that often, it's natural to focus more on tech and trends than if a company is putting out quality software.
It's hard to tell what's a good videogame and what's not if you don't like videogames that much in the first place..
Motion controls don't really matter. 3D doesn't really matter. HD doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters is games. Fun, exciting videogames.
I find that a lot of CEOs, analysts, and even some game journalists, seem to forget that. I guess if you don't actually play videogames that often, it's natural to focus more on tech and trends than if a company is putting out quality software.
It's hard to tell what's a good videogame and what's not if you don't like videogames that much in the first place..
@ Jonathon Holmes - I try explaining this to my friends all the time, but i look an idiot. I tell them what makes the wii unique to other consoles interms of the games and they laugh. I just wish there wasn't so many shallow minded gamers out there. I'll play anything, whether it be Halo or Big Beach Sports and if im enjoying myself and smiling, then to me, the game has accomplished its mission.
@ Jonathon Holmes - I try explaining this to my friends all the time, but i look an idiot. I tell them what makes the wii unique to other consoles interms of the games and they laugh. I just wish there wasn't so many shallow minded gamers out there. I'll play anything, whether it be Halo or Big Beach Sports and if im enjoying myself and smiling, then to me, the game has accomplished its mission.
@Jonathan Holmes
I agree with you and everything, and I personally care nothing about motion controls or 3D or HD, and maybe I'm just cynical, but if you're telling me that Reggie Fils-Aime wouldn't be talking up a new peripheral if Nintendo had one to push, then I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. He is saying what he is saying because it's the best thing for his company, just like any other executive out there.
I agree with you and everything, and I personally care nothing about motion controls or 3D or HD, and maybe I'm just cynical, but if you're telling me that Reggie Fils-Aime wouldn't be talking up a new peripheral if Nintendo had one to push, then I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. He is saying what he is saying because it's the best thing for his company, just like any other executive out there.
Holy flurking schnit, Skyward Sword is beautiful.
I'm one of those happy owners of that "new version" of the Wii.
I'm one of those happy owners of that "new version" of the Wii.
@Jim
I'm not sure I understand the comment about releasing an updated Wii successor. Was the person asking the question trying to imply that Nintendo should have improved upon the Wii, giving it added functionality with regard to motion-controlled gaming?
Kinect/Move were basically just Microsoft's and Sony's attempts at getting a piece of the motion-controlled gaming pie. That's at least how I understood it. I didn't realize that anyone actually expected Nintendo to provide some form of rebuttal in terms of a hardware release, being that they've thoroughly dominated the realm of motion-controlled gaming.
I would appreciate getting your opinion on the context of that question.
I'm not sure I understand the comment about releasing an updated Wii successor. Was the person asking the question trying to imply that Nintendo should have improved upon the Wii, giving it added functionality with regard to motion-controlled gaming?
Kinect/Move were basically just Microsoft's and Sony's attempts at getting a piece of the motion-controlled gaming pie. That's at least how I understood it. I didn't realize that anyone actually expected Nintendo to provide some form of rebuttal in terms of a hardware release, being that they've thoroughly dominated the realm of motion-controlled gaming.
I would appreciate getting your opinion on the context of that question.
@ pokota- I'm actually referring more to Jim's headline than anything Reggie is saying. Reggie is definitely one of the CEOs I was referring to when I was brought up people who are more focused on trends than games.
Nintendo of America (under Reggie's leadership) continues to abandon or ignore great Nintendo of Japan software, while the shell out huge money to get "celebrities" like Beyonce and Helen Mirren to sell their products. That shows me that the man's passion for games is minimal at best. He's a salesman, not an artist.
That's the real difference between Nintendo of Japan and Nintendo of America, with the exception being Nintendo's Treehouse division.
Those guys are amazing.
Nintendo of America (under Reggie's leadership) continues to abandon or ignore great Nintendo of Japan software, while the shell out huge money to get "celebrities" like Beyonce and Helen Mirren to sell their products. That shows me that the man's passion for games is minimal at best. He's a salesman, not an artist.
That's the real difference between Nintendo of Japan and Nintendo of America, with the exception being Nintendo's Treehouse division.
Those guys are amazing.
@Jonathan Holmes
Oops, totally misread the direction of your comment. Thank you for clarifying.
But yeah. I wouldn't say that Reggie is any worse than his counterparts at the other corporations, but because it's Nintendo, the internal contrast is much sharper. Actually, you know what, he probably is worse, because he's such a puffed shirt when he likely doesn't have to be. At least the other guys are puffed shirts who work for puffed shirts.
Oops, totally misread the direction of your comment. Thank you for clarifying.
But yeah. I wouldn't say that Reggie is any worse than his counterparts at the other corporations, but because it's Nintendo, the internal contrast is much sharper. Actually, you know what, he probably is worse, because he's such a puffed shirt when he likely doesn't have to be. At least the other guys are puffed shirts who work for puffed shirts.
"When asked about improving their product, he says that they made a red one?"
Yeah, and Sony thinks improving theirs is removing existing features in new versions by ripping hardware components or via shitons of firmware updates, adding mostly useless crap like Home or hypocritically appeal to the demographic they've been shitting on for 4 years by releasing a copy of the Wiimote.
"I think Nintendo has decided they've made enough money on the Wii that there is no need to invest more into it. My guess is that they've kind of left it on it's own to focus on the 3DS. Continued Wii sales are just icing on the cake. The Wii will always sell great at Christmas, because parents will be attracted to the cheapest console, and Nintendo advertises the kind of games that parents want their kids to play, but the slow down over the rest of the year is likely to continue unless they do something beside just releasing new colors. "
Or, you know, after 5 years of being on top of sales it could be a normal market tendency, just sayin' .
Yeah, and Sony thinks improving theirs is removing existing features in new versions by ripping hardware components or via shitons of firmware updates, adding mostly useless crap like Home or hypocritically appeal to the demographic they've been shitting on for 4 years by releasing a copy of the Wiimote.
"I think Nintendo has decided they've made enough money on the Wii that there is no need to invest more into it. My guess is that they've kind of left it on it's own to focus on the 3DS. Continued Wii sales are just icing on the cake. The Wii will always sell great at Christmas, because parents will be attracted to the cheapest console, and Nintendo advertises the kind of games that parents want their kids to play, but the slow down over the rest of the year is likely to continue unless they do something beside just releasing new colors. "
Or, you know, after 5 years of being on top of sales it could be a normal market tendency, just sayin' .
Oh, c'mon. Nintendo wasn't blindsided by Kinect or Move, and they've been off working on their own next new big thing for a few years now. I'm sure the 3DS will sell another fuckton, and so will whatever the Wii2 happens to be once that finally hits.
I'll bet we don't see a new Wii announcement until next year, once the 3DS has had a Holiday season to itself.
I'll bet we don't see a new Wii announcement until next year, once the 3DS has had a Holiday season to itself.
Wii doesn't need artists. It needs businessmen with marketing savvy to tell those lazy ass artists to make better games.
"You know, we had a new version of the Wii, it was red and it did phenomenally well on a global basis as we celebrated Mario's 25th anniversary."
Man, I want one of these.
Also, @MuddBstrd I lol'd.
Man, I want one of these.
Also, @MuddBstrd I lol'd.
Reggie is just a mouthpiece and a great PR man. I don't believe anything he says, and if he was fired by Nintendo today, he'd be just as adamant about ANY other video game software out there. I can just picture Reggie right now at the Microsoft conference:
"Right now... (pauses, and does the Reggie lifting hands signature motion)...Microsoft is ahead of the game. It brought Facebook to consoles. It brought Netflix. It has LastFM. And now... (Reggie pause, and signature smile) - IT HAS KINECT. With Kinect, everyone in the world can video chat, etc and on and on".
He's GREAT at what he does - make Nintendo look good to the mass public, and investors/shareholders: he just does it with such textbook quality that it feels disingenuous.
"Right now... (pauses, and does the Reggie lifting hands signature motion)...Microsoft is ahead of the game. It brought Facebook to consoles. It brought Netflix. It has LastFM. And now... (Reggie pause, and signature smile) - IT HAS KINECT. With Kinect, everyone in the world can video chat, etc and on and on".
He's GREAT at what he does - make Nintendo look good to the mass public, and investors/shareholders: he just does it with such textbook quality that it feels disingenuous.
@Celica
Haha, I've sat in live with two Nintendo E3 conferences - you can really see it in his face up close.
Cammie was a LOT more obvious, and is pretty terrible. Reggie at least makes it look like he cares somewhat. I'd be interested to see where Reggie goes if he left Nintendo America.
Haha, I've sat in live with two Nintendo E3 conferences - you can really see it in his face up close.
Cammie was a LOT more obvious, and is pretty terrible. Reggie at least makes it look like he cares somewhat. I'd be interested to see where Reggie goes if he left Nintendo America.
Every decent Nintendo game on the Wii is still $50 everywhere I look. I keep waiting for Smash Bros. to drop.
So I guess you win by charging out the ass for everything you make, no matter how old it is.
So I guess you win by charging out the ass for everything you make, no matter how old it is.
@EdgyDude
Why don't you overreact? Of course it's normal market tendency. I didn't insult your Precious, you can drop defensive shields down to 50%. Good god.
Why don't you overreact? Of course it's normal market tendency. I didn't insult your Precious, you can drop defensive shields down to 50%. Good god.
I do agree with Reggie, but you can't release a new Mario, Zelda or Donkey Kong every year. The games take awhile to produce and if you keep cranking them out, then eventually we'll lose with the Wii because of saturation.
@Dv8thwonder
Not in the least. Unlike you, I think it's stupid to hate a hardware system or a game manufacturer. I'd like to have a Wii, it has some nice looking RPGs coming out. If most of it's better games weren't platformers, which I don't care about, then I'd probably already have one. Also, like Johnathon, I think Nintendo of Japan has some of the best people in the industry working for them, and that they tend to think more like indie developers than businessmen.
What I don't like are the Nintendo fans who go ballistic if you say something like "the Wii will probably see a slight decline in market share", or give an opinion like "I don't care for most Mario games". People like you, and sofik, and jayson, do more to push people away from the games you care about than anything else.
Not in the least. Unlike you, I think it's stupid to hate a hardware system or a game manufacturer. I'd like to have a Wii, it has some nice looking RPGs coming out. If most of it's better games weren't platformers, which I don't care about, then I'd probably already have one. Also, like Johnathon, I think Nintendo of Japan has some of the best people in the industry working for them, and that they tend to think more like indie developers than businessmen.
What I don't like are the Nintendo fans who go ballistic if you say something like "the Wii will probably see a slight decline in market share", or give an opinion like "I don't care for most Mario games". People like you, and sofik, and jayson, do more to push people away from the games you care about than anything else.
@Jim
2010 was a good year for wii for software. But with only Skyward Sword and De Blob 2 on the horizon, with no other titles announced for release or localisation, I find it hard to have confidence in Reggie's statement. Nintendo ould be keeping things close to their chest, but I'm worried of another games drought.
@Pokota
It's a tried and true strategy to fool the kids into buying/re-buying a wii by offering different colours. Christ, look how many people went apeshit for the black wii just so it'd look good next to the rest of their consumer electronics. But you're right, it's not innovate and Nintendo does need to get it's arse in gear with a new home console with better 3rd party support, good online and a decnt sized hardrive. Don't count on it coming out anytime soon, though.
@Holmes
"Motion controls don't really matter. 3D doesn't really matter. HD doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters is games. Fun, exciting videogames."
This. A lot of NES games were just simple mechanics - easy to play, difficult to master. I can appreciate Super Meat Boy as much as I can Fallout 3 or Angry Birds. People have forgotten games are about fun, they're not about being a part of some bloody console exclusive clique.
2010 was a good year for wii for software. But with only Skyward Sword and De Blob 2 on the horizon, with no other titles announced for release or localisation, I find it hard to have confidence in Reggie's statement. Nintendo ould be keeping things close to their chest, but I'm worried of another games drought.
@Pokota
It's a tried and true strategy to fool the kids into buying/re-buying a wii by offering different colours. Christ, look how many people went apeshit for the black wii just so it'd look good next to the rest of their consumer electronics. But you're right, it's not innovate and Nintendo does need to get it's arse in gear with a new home console with better 3rd party support, good online and a decnt sized hardrive. Don't count on it coming out anytime soon, though.
@Holmes
"Motion controls don't really matter. 3D doesn't really matter. HD doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters is games. Fun, exciting videogames."
This. A lot of NES games were just simple mechanics - easy to play, difficult to master. I can appreciate Super Meat Boy as much as I can Fallout 3 or Angry Birds. People have forgotten games are about fun, they're not about being a part of some bloody console exclusive clique.
The sad thing about Nintendo is that they could have done much better in very obvious ways. Take the Virtual Console. There's no good excuse for why Mother 3 isn't on there, let alone Earthbound. Talk about games that would bring joy to anyone who's a kid at heart.
Another example, MotionPlus should probably have been part of the controller from the beginning. It's also not supported in the vast majority of successful games following its introduction, probably out of fear that customers would think it was required and avoid purchasing those games. Maybe it's more a problem for the developers to implement, I don't know. But I honestly think it might hinder this year's Zelda if a pack-in of the motionplus affects the price.
As you say, they're Nintendo. They can pull this Red Version and 25th Anniversary retail re-release of All Stars with no changes, and plenty of people will buy it and love it. Because for all their shortcomings, they're totally unique in the industry.
Another example, MotionPlus should probably have been part of the controller from the beginning. It's also not supported in the vast majority of successful games following its introduction, probably out of fear that customers would think it was required and avoid purchasing those games. Maybe it's more a problem for the developers to implement, I don't know. But I honestly think it might hinder this year's Zelda if a pack-in of the motionplus affects the price.
As you say, they're Nintendo. They can pull this Red Version and 25th Anniversary retail re-release of All Stars with no changes, and plenty of people will buy it and love it. Because for all their shortcomings, they're totally unique in the industry.
Gotta love Reggie. :)
And yeah, I'm a Nintendo fanboy for the games, not the machine.
You can say what you will about the Nintendo franchises being overused, rehashes and whatever, but hey, as long as it's all as good as it routinely is, it's difficult to complain.
Besides, I personally believe that there is more innovation within a single Nintendo franchise than in 90% of all FPS franchises. I hold to that. Just because several games use a single established character and premise, it doesn't mean that all of them are unoriginal.
I honestly never understood that line of thinking...
And yeah, I'm a Nintendo fanboy for the games, not the machine.
You can say what you will about the Nintendo franchises being overused, rehashes and whatever, but hey, as long as it's all as good as it routinely is, it's difficult to complain.
Besides, I personally believe that there is more innovation within a single Nintendo franchise than in 90% of all FPS franchises. I hold to that. Just because several games use a single established character and premise, it doesn't mean that all of them are unoriginal.
I honestly never understood that line of thinking...
Jonathan makes a good point about NOA and not localizing alot of great games and losing sight about gaming and peripheral obsession. WHERE THE HELL IS CAPTAIN RAINBOW? no real balance board support beyond Wii fit, (Punch-Out had a tacked on feature that was about it). No Wii speak support beyone Animal crossing and than they cancel support. The only first party Wii motion plus Nintendo games anyone really cares about is skyward sword.
but, I don't think that they're that bad compared to everyone else it's just the way business works in America unfortunately, Meaning we have to sit through Beyonce pretending to care about a video-game. I don't think Reggie is as passionate about games as he could be, but at least he does play and understand them which is more than you can say about alot of other people in the business.
And realistically He has alot of stuff to do he can't afford to spend as much time gaming as us. Reggie is fine by me, considering that he's the boss and he hasn't completely lost sight of the products he's selling and he isn't a complete asshole makes me have some respect for the man.
but, I don't think that they're that bad compared to everyone else it's just the way business works in America unfortunately, Meaning we have to sit through Beyonce pretending to care about a video-game. I don't think Reggie is as passionate about games as he could be, but at least he does play and understand them which is more than you can say about alot of other people in the business.
And realistically He has alot of stuff to do he can't afford to spend as much time gaming as us. Reggie is fine by me, considering that he's the boss and he hasn't completely lost sight of the products he's selling and he isn't a complete asshole makes me have some respect for the man.
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