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I spent most of my time on my DS playing a multitude of NES and SNES roms using an M3, nearly all of which I own cartridges of, or wouldn't be able to find anyway. I'm totally against piracy of modern software, but making it illegal to sell a piece of hardware that enables homebrew and full functionality is extreme to say the least.
@Arttemis
Homebrew devices usually don't support piracy upfront, but people can easily work piracy in those devices which why video game companies do not support homebrew.
They can't stop piracy forever but we see that they're getting closer to spreading the amount of time and money spent into pirating to where a majority wouldn't risk it.
I bet if they had a cheaper but not drastically cheaper prices on video games, most developers could easily get more of a profit than lost to piracy.
But that's just an odd perspective I have.
Pay no mind to me if you don't agree.
Homebrew devices usually don't support piracy upfront, but people can easily work piracy in those devices which why video game companies do not support homebrew.
They can't stop piracy forever but we see that they're getting closer to spreading the amount of time and money spent into pirating to where a majority wouldn't risk it.
I bet if they had a cheaper but not drastically cheaper prices on video games, most developers could easily get more of a profit than lost to piracy.
But that's just an odd perspective I have.
Pay no mind to me if you don't agree.
"wow with all that money they could make some decent games... oh wait"
Yeah, like Super Mario Galaxy 2, Skyward Sword, Kirby's Epic Yarn, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Twilight Princess, Super Mario Galaxy....WAIT THEY ALREADY MADE THOSE!
Yeah, like Super Mario Galaxy 2, Skyward Sword, Kirby's Epic Yarn, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Twilight Princess, Super Mario Galaxy....WAIT THEY ALREADY MADE THOSE!
They also won their battle against me... in 2010.
See Nintendo Co Jpn VS James Burt.
In fairness I didn't put up much of a battle, I bent over and took it like a trooper.... BECAUSE I DID WRONG!
See Nintendo Co Jpn VS James Burt.
In fairness I didn't put up much of a battle, I bent over and took it like a trooper.... BECAUSE I DID WRONG!
"I'm totally against piracy of modern software, but making it illegal to sell a piece of hardware that enables homebrew and full functionality is extreme to say the least."
Yeah, hacking your console to run your homebrews is one thing, but mass producing a piece of hardware which purpose is largely known to be pirating, that's another thing. It's facilitating criminal activity, so there is a limit to freedom. If you really try to defend yourself saying that the law allows it you know that you are maliciously abusing the law to your advantage over someone else's rights, which is bad anyway.
Yeah, hacking your console to run your homebrews is one thing, but mass producing a piece of hardware which purpose is largely known to be pirating, that's another thing. It's facilitating criminal activity, so there is a limit to freedom. If you really try to defend yourself saying that the law allows it you know that you are maliciously abusing the law to your advantage over someone else's rights, which is bad anyway.
@Mrio Azevedo - If you own a smartphone, you're completely within your rights to alter/hack it to do whatever you want it to do. If you do that exact same thing to a PS3 or DS, it's illegal. That's a completely backward sentiment. If homebrew is fine, how am I expected to go about facilitating that on a DS without an M3 or R4? That's like saying ice cream is legal, but it's illegal to open the door on aisle 13 where they stock the creamy good stuff.
Eh i have to say though. The number one reason that my DSlite is still played is the fact that i have my entire DS library on their.
i have a copy of pokemon white on the shelf unplayed, because i wanted it on the M3.
there is a huge convenience factor to having everything on one cartridge, and the sooner nintendo takes advantage of this fact and allows us a way to buy games in this way the better.
and guess what it would stop used game sales to, because if i own a digital copy that can be transfered to a multi game cartridge i can't resell it now can I.
These things are even more of an issue when your competing with the Iphone, which can have huge amount's of games on the one device, no cartridge swapping, no extra carrying cases. it just makes everything that much simpler
i have a copy of pokemon white on the shelf unplayed, because i wanted it on the M3.
there is a huge convenience factor to having everything on one cartridge, and the sooner nintendo takes advantage of this fact and allows us a way to buy games in this way the better.
and guess what it would stop used game sales to, because if i own a digital copy that can be transfered to a multi game cartridge i can't resell it now can I.
These things are even more of an issue when your competing with the Iphone, which can have huge amount's of games on the one device, no cartridge swapping, no extra carrying cases. it just makes everything that much simpler
I hope Nintendo takes action against the people who proudly proclaim they will pirate those three games everyone wants.
@Arttemis
ICE CREAM PIRACY! YOU BASTARD!
But yeah, these lawsuits around "piracy" are getting mind-boggling. Pretty soon, its gonna be illegal to mod controllers on the basis that it "creates an uneven playing field" while PC users continue to use gaming specific keyboards and mice with completely customizable key configurations.
ICE CREAM PIRACY! YOU BASTARD!
But yeah, these lawsuits around "piracy" are getting mind-boggling. Pretty soon, its gonna be illegal to mod controllers on the basis that it "creates an uneven playing field" while PC users continue to use gaming specific keyboards and mice with completely customizable key configurations.
Kinda sad to see them go. It sure does make it more pleasant for vacations. Just have one cartridge and you're good to go.
Ah well, just means more juggling for me, then.
Ah well, just means more juggling for me, then.
@RoverTHX - I completely agree. If games were cheaper, the amount of 'impulse buys' would sky rocket. Lowering the price at a certain demand will only increase sales. Anyone actively complaining about price as a reason to pirate probably is going to pirate anyway because anything is more expensive than $0.00, but I do feel piracy would decrease with overall lower prices.
Silly Nintendo. You can't win against piracy.
It's like the ban on alcohol in the 1920s. It just goes underground.
It's like the ban on alcohol in the 1920s. It just goes underground.
Next time they'll tell you that it's only legal to play sitting on a sofa and nowhere else.
I get the anti-piracy sentiment, but a piece of hardware is ultimately used at the buyer's decision. I can burn my DS if I want to. Stupid and risky yes, but that's my choice. Banning the R4 will only take things to a deeper level.
@Arttemis: I also agree if the games were a bit cheaper to begin with people wouldn't wouldn't dread so much investing in new unknown games. Ironically I don't worry much with DS titles, but Wii and PS3 new games are $50-60+tax. For a student or lower than average budget person that's a significant blow.
I get the anti-piracy sentiment, but a piece of hardware is ultimately used at the buyer's decision. I can burn my DS if I want to. Stupid and risky yes, but that's my choice. Banning the R4 will only take things to a deeper level.
@Arttemis: I also agree if the games were a bit cheaper to begin with people wouldn't wouldn't dread so much investing in new unknown games. Ironically I don't worry much with DS titles, but Wii and PS3 new games are $50-60+tax. For a student or lower than average budget person that's a significant blow.
fetus: im guessing because up until the dsi, there was no way to actually stop piracy with a firmware update. The wii, dsi, dsiXL and 3DS all have an online update system, which they do on occasion. The DS and DSL are totally open systems.
Great job Nintendo, stick it to those pirate asshats.
The fact that they won at all opens some serious floodgates, the DS despite being amazing got massacred by those idiots.
@Arttemis
The flash cards break Nintendo patents, they have a right to shut them down EVEN IF they weren't used for piracy.
And everybody knows that they are MAINLY for piracy.
And yes, slightly cheaper DS/handheld games would be nice, as frankly many of the them (namely third party games) can come across as overpriced. Luckily prices can drop pretty fast these days if you're willing to wait and look around.
@fetusmilk
They have tried to stop custom firmware on the Wii, but since we're talking about physical companies making physical flash cards here it's much easier to fight.
The fact that they won at all opens some serious floodgates, the DS despite being amazing got massacred by those idiots.
@Arttemis
The flash cards break Nintendo patents, they have a right to shut them down EVEN IF they weren't used for piracy.
And everybody knows that they are MAINLY for piracy.
And yes, slightly cheaper DS/handheld games would be nice, as frankly many of the them (namely third party games) can come across as overpriced. Luckily prices can drop pretty fast these days if you're willing to wait and look around.
@fetusmilk
They have tried to stop custom firmware on the Wii, but since we're talking about physical companies making physical flash cards here it's much easier to fight.
@Dr-Peace - I'm aware of that, but when it's completely legal to modify far more expensive pieces of electronics, such as any smartphone, I think that its preposterous. Have you seen the creativity and improvement the smart gold at XDA forums have created over the years? I look forward to the day when modifying the hardware I purchased to do whatever I wasn't isn't vilified.
We all know able people want these cards. Yes. There are a people out there that use hombres but the majority of people with cards use it for piracy.
quote:
"Gorescream:
what the fuck?"
Just lifted up your belly rolls, eh? Seen that little nub hanging off those little balls? Don't get worried, it's suppose to be there. It's called a wiener.
"Gorescream:
what the fuck?"
Just lifted up your belly rolls, eh? Seen that little nub hanging off those little balls? Don't get worried, it's suppose to be there. It's called a wiener.
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