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woah Nintendo Wii is now 149$???
does it have BC????
anyways still a shame we didn't get Fatal Frame IV, Disaster Day of Crisis, Earth Seeker, 428: Fūsa Sareta Shibuya de, Another Code: R – A Journey into Lost Memories,
DS games like Last Window: The Secret of Cape West(US),
and for US territories The Last Story, Pandora's Tower and Xenoblade
you know what i just blame NOA.
NOE on the other hand is doing much better
does it have BC????
anyways still a shame we didn't get Fatal Frame IV, Disaster Day of Crisis, Earth Seeker, 428: Fūsa Sareta Shibuya de, Another Code: R – A Journey into Lost Memories,
DS games like Last Window: The Secret of Cape West(US),
and for US territories The Last Story, Pandora's Tower and Xenoblade
you know what i just blame NOA.
NOE on the other hand is doing much better
If America was the Czech Republic you would have defenestrated that cunt long ago... That said, we're used to getting pissed on in europe, especially by Sony despite it being their strongest region, so I see Xenoblade, The Last Story and Pandora's Tower as recompense for that...
Why do companies feel the need to lie about continually supporting their old systems. It's been a long enough period, there's no shame in moving all support to the newer consoles. Oh wait, I guess Nintendo was right, as I bet everyone is still regularly playing the GBA as the "third pillar"
Honestly I do hope Nintendo has a major game or two still planned for the Wii, but if Nintendo couldn't even support the Wii with enough games, I definitely don't want them trying to support 2 consoles at once.
Honestly I do hope Nintendo has a major game or two still planned for the Wii, but if Nintendo couldn't even support the Wii with enough games, I definitely don't want them trying to support 2 consoles at once.
This will be a first for Nintendo home consoles, where the older hardware is still selling near the release of the newer one. They'll inevitably announce those 3 damned games for the console, along with rhythm heaven and some casual stuff.
I hadn't touched mine in over a year (I checked) until Skyward Sword. Had no reason to, and it would have been more like 2 years if it weren't for Donkey Kong Country Returns. Everything about the Wii is outdated and feels clunky at this point. Even SS doesn't hold up the way it should and it's obvious where they mask things to hide the technical limits of the Wii. Which is fine, it's a great game. But it could have been so much more.
So yeah, the Wii is going to live on. But it's going to go from 98% shovelware to 100%. People will make games for it as long as they sell. Anyone remember those awesome PS2 games from 2007? Yeah exactly.
So yeah, the Wii is going to live on. But it's going to go from 98% shovelware to 100%. People will make games for it as long as they sell. Anyone remember those awesome PS2 games from 2007? Yeah exactly.
After Skyward Sword is done I might really be considering modding and importing my Wii for Xenoblade and whatever else good that Europe is getting that we're not.
@Matt Edwards
the way i see it.
US - Sony
EU - Nintendo
JPN - Both of them
though at least they are some pretty awesome goods like retail version of Arcana Heart 3 etc..
then again you guys then to get fucked by sony in the PSN department.
so you definitely have my sympathies.
if only Sony and Nintendo would treat everyone the same in every region.
the way i see it.
US - Sony
EU - Nintendo
JPN - Both of them
though at least they are some pretty awesome goods like retail version of Arcana Heart 3 etc..
then again you guys then to get fucked by sony in the PSN department.
so you definitely have my sympathies.
if only Sony and Nintendo would treat everyone the same in every region.
And also "we're really setting people up to take their gaming library and be able to transfer it over to Wii U" I'm guessing that doesn't apply to virtual console games/Wii ware/etc, because those are all tied to the console? It would be nice if they had some method of transferring all of that, because this is the first generation where consoles have had downloadable content licenses, and if companies don't handle them well in the generation shift, a lot of people are going to be pissed.
I disagree. They have 2 empty quarters until the wiiu, and I really doubt they are willing to leave them completely empty when there's money to be made off all the free publicity project rainfall(or whatever it is called) has given them.
To me, these comments imply that Reggie thinks the Wii will continue to sell because of price drops. I don't see any mention of "we plan to continue supporting the system software-wise" in there. I don't think these comments are out of place at all, you even said yourself that you think the system will continue to sell well. That's exactly what they're saying here...
Anyone who is just now buying a Wii has a pretty large backlog to work through before they can complain about not having new content.
Anyone who is just now buying a Wii has a pretty large backlog to work through before they can complain about not having new content.
Does that mean you'll bring those games you're refusing us over to the US?
@PrinceHeir: I still highly resent that dick move of not releasing the Trace Memory sequel. It was the first (one of? it was my first at least) DS game and I still remember playing it in my fat DS. How could they deprive their early adopters of the sequel?
@PrinceHeir: I still highly resent that dick move of not releasing the Trace Memory sequel. It was the first (one of? it was my first at least) DS game and I still remember playing it in my fat DS. How could they deprive their early adopters of the sequel?
"As we drive the install base of Wii, we're really setting people up to take their gaming library and be able to transfer it over to Wii U."
Don't tease me, Reggie. Why should I get a Wii U if it won't upscale my almost beautiful Wii games that would look eyegasmic in full HD?
I see no reason to get a Wii U until/unless there's at least 4 really awesome games for it.
On a related note, I'd be willing to wager on the eventual release of "HD Classics: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword" for Wii U.
Don't tease me, Reggie. Why should I get a Wii U if it won't upscale my almost beautiful Wii games that would look eyegasmic in full HD?
I see no reason to get a Wii U until/unless there's at least 4 really awesome games for it.
On a related note, I'd be willing to wager on the eventual release of "HD Classics: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword" for Wii U.
Reading some comments I feel inclined to point out that there is nothing in either of these statements that implies software support. They're both general comments about sales of the system itself, and if black friday is any indication, they're completely right.
I really think we should just wait on these rpg a while longer. And if they release, I highly doubt rainfall would have had much to do with it.(although the noise they have caused could certainly help sales.)
Unless, of course, Nintendo just wants people to import, thus making more money for themselves.
Unless, of course, Nintendo just wants people to import, thus making more money for themselves.
Nintendo doesn't care about gamers anymore, they just spent millions on a Justin Bieber ad instead of giving gamers in the US Xenoblade.
It only looks like the Wii is still going on because of Black Friday sales. Where is the software support? Where is the fucking Xenoblade?! Wii is still crippled when I look at my game library behind me.
@burdyman
yeah I guess you're right. Even in the full interview, the only thing he mentions for continued support is "downloadable games." I guess they really just want to keep the wii selling for years to come without supporting it.
yeah I guess you're right. Even in the full interview, the only thing he mentions for continued support is "downloadable games." I guess they really just want to keep the wii selling for years to come without supporting it.
@IIort het
All these statements say is that they expect the system to continue selling because of the price drop. It seems like everyone here is reading into this from the perspective of owning a Wii for a few years. Even Jim's analysis seems to be from that point of view.
All these statements say is that they expect the system to continue selling because of the price drop. It seems like everyone here is reading into this from the perspective of owning a Wii for a few years. Even Jim's analysis seems to be from that point of view.
They always say this, and they're usually wrong. But this time, I have to agree. I think it'll probably go the way of the PS2.
I want those rpgs to come out as much as the next guy but can we move on with it already. If operation Rainfall doesnt make a differance then these comment sections surly won't. Also I can't beleive games like Wii party and Wii play cost Nintendo much to make so I dont see why its a stretch that they would continue to support the casuals with titles like that.
I still remain (some would say foolishly) optimistic that Nintendo will pull a rabbit out of it's hat this year and release something solid on the Wii. I mean the Wii U is schedule to come out at the earliest December of next year. they can't just leave the Wii hanging like that for a whole year. It would be financial suicide. Here's hoping somebody at NOA decides that Xenoblade and The Last Story are worth localizing, though in the case of Xenoblade, they could just take the British version and bring that over here.
@Jim:
So... this is the question myself and alot of other Dtoid faithfuls are wondering:
What do you think of Skyward Sword?
I know Holmes reviewed it, but I know Jon's a Nintendo fanboy (no offense, Holmes).
Myself, I really did'nt like it.... Too many "fetch-quests".
So... this is the question myself and alot of other Dtoid faithfuls are wondering:
What do you think of Skyward Sword?
I know Holmes reviewed it, but I know Jon's a Nintendo fanboy (no offense, Holmes).
Myself, I really did'nt like it.... Too many "fetch-quests".
The Wii has had some amazing games this year, and it is topped off with Skyward Sword, the new BEST Zelda so far.....
Haters are so boring. They are so obsessed with bitching about NINTENDO that it's become predictable.
America will be getting The Last Story & Xenoblade in 2012. The Wii has been a brilliant console that has been unfairly bashed by the dummy gamers that can't handle things that are "different". They aren't real gamers in the first place. They are just fat toads that troll their whole lives.
Haters are so boring. They are so obsessed with bitching about NINTENDO that it's become predictable.
America will be getting The Last Story & Xenoblade in 2012. The Wii has been a brilliant console that has been unfairly bashed by the dummy gamers that can't handle things that are "different". They aren't real gamers in the first place. They are just fat toads that troll their whole lives.
@souldcage:
What? What does that have to do with anything I asked?
besides, already got OoT on N64 & 3DS...
What? What does that have to do with anything I asked?
besides, already got OoT on N64 & 3DS...
"Nintendo pretty much says this every time a new system is in the works, and while it's true from a sales standpoint, rarely is it true from a support standpoint."
Is that any different than Microsoft, or Sony? Who supports a dead platform, when they have to move on to making games for the new one? Sony only benefited from 3rd Party's like EA putting games like Madden on the PS1 and PS2, well after the next system comes out years later, but what's Sony still putting out on the PS2? Hell what is Sony putting out on the PSP? The Vita isn't even out yet, and the PSP has been dead for while now, from both Sony and 3rd Party's alike!
Is that any different than Microsoft, or Sony? Who supports a dead platform, when they have to move on to making games for the new one? Sony only benefited from 3rd Party's like EA putting games like Madden on the PS1 and PS2, well after the next system comes out years later, but what's Sony still putting out on the PS2? Hell what is Sony putting out on the PSP? The Vita isn't even out yet, and the PSP has been dead for while now, from both Sony and 3rd Party's alike!
"The consumer buying Wii hardware today is going to be a different consumer than the one who will be buying Wii U in the future"
Sorry Reggie. I bought a Wii just a couple of months ago, basically at the end of its life cycle, when all of the first party titles were out (or basically out), at an extremely cheaper price then $149.99. You know what I'm going to do with the Wii U?
The same damn thing.
Sorry Reggie. I bought a Wii just a couple of months ago, basically at the end of its life cycle, when all of the first party titles were out (or basically out), at an extremely cheaper price then $149.99. You know what I'm going to do with the Wii U?
The same damn thing.
@blood-pudding
Modding, go ahead, it's your console so do what you want with it.
Piracy, hell no. The whole reason that Nintendo is supporting hardcore gamers less and less is because the casual crowd is much more profitable. Piracy would only make that worse and we'd see even less games. As long as Nintendo keeps making shitty minigame/motion control minigames, we kind of need them more than they need us, because grandma isn't going to pirate their games.
Although MAYBE I'd say piracy would be okay for the operation rainfall games because obviously by not selling it to us they are sending the message that they don't want our money anyways.
Modding, go ahead, it's your console so do what you want with it.
Piracy, hell no. The whole reason that Nintendo is supporting hardcore gamers less and less is because the casual crowd is much more profitable. Piracy would only make that worse and we'd see even less games. As long as Nintendo keeps making shitty minigame/motion control minigames, we kind of need them more than they need us, because grandma isn't going to pirate their games.
Although MAYBE I'd say piracy would be okay for the operation rainfall games because obviously by not selling it to us they are sending the message that they don't want our money anyways.
Xenoblade has been pretty dope on my laptop. Think FFXII but better.
Damn shame tons are missing out
Damn shame tons are missing out
Wii already seems like a last gen console to me, and its successor isn't even out yet. The last Wii game that I bought was Super Mario All-Stars, a year old SNES port of a compilation of NES remakes.
"Pricing is going to be different" = Not cheap.
They will coexist because the Wii-U will be over $249 while the Wii will remain under $149, thus effectively targeting a wide range of demographics.
They will coexist because the Wii-U will be over $249 while the Wii will remain under $149, thus effectively targeting a wide range of demographics.
I own a Wii since 2009 and I have 34 games for it. Next year I'm getting The Last Story, Rhythm Heaven and Dragon Quest X for it so far. Also I'm looking for a Boy and His Blob and trying to save some cash for Rayman Origins, which is basically the same game that in 360 and PS3 but cheaper.
So, no complaints here. I'd only sell it if it broke and I'm happy with the games I have for it.
And btw, Xenoblade is one of these 34 games and I was very underwhelmed by it. But it was good. To an extent. It's what BrowneyeWinkin said. I can think about 10 games far better than it on the Wii. But it's a good game.
@JQM78
Jim already voiced his opinion about SS. In a podtoid he said that he was 6 hours in and he was alienated by the motion controls (I can relate to that to an extent, to be honest) and also he twited this later:
"Skyward Sword is a game in which things that once worked perfectly were changed to force ideas that nobody asked for."
But hey, I want him to elaborate that a little more, if he already hasn't. I also want to know what does he think of it.
So, no complaints here. I'd only sell it if it broke and I'm happy with the games I have for it.
And btw, Xenoblade is one of these 34 games and I was very underwhelmed by it. But it was good. To an extent. It's what BrowneyeWinkin said. I can think about 10 games far better than it on the Wii. But it's a good game.
@JQM78
Jim already voiced his opinion about SS. In a podtoid he said that he was 6 hours in and he was alienated by the motion controls (I can relate to that to an extent, to be honest) and also he twited this later:
"Skyward Sword is a game in which things that once worked perfectly were changed to force ideas that nobody asked for."
But hey, I want him to elaborate that a little more, if he already hasn't. I also want to know what does he think of it.
No, it WILL mean the end of the Wii. Hell, Skyward Sword's release date could be the system's end if you don't get your act together, Reggie. Nintendo has some WONDERFUL titles for you to work with-please, do so.
MARKET Fortune Street and Rhythm Heaven. Do so aggressively! The Mario Party crowd will snap Fortune Street up if they just knew about it. Fact-I have a group of avid Nintendo fanboy friends. We play MP at least once or twice every few months together. One of them even subscribes [at least, they did] to Nintendo Power. They knew NOTHING of Fortune Street, not a single one [until I told them.] Rhythm Heaven built up a cult following and has the potential to be big too, if you TELL PEOPLE ABOUT IT.
And for goodness sake, RELEASE THE OPERATION RAINFALL TRIO. JUST. DO. IT. Do a small print run, some ads and press releases, and capitalize off all the publicity OpRa's done for these games, and swallow. your. pride. Will you make Zelda-bucks off it? Even Kirby-size profits? Probably not. But you'll gain back a lot of good faith that will help your next console/handheld [oh hi, 3DS]/games sell better because fans feel less shafted and see a greater chance that games they want will release next time. Pull an Atlus/NISA-they stay afloat on niche titles somehow. Surely you can too, NOA.
You're in a tight spot, NOA/Reggie. You can pull through, but you won't pull through unless you make a few changes. :/ I, for one, would LOVE to see the systems coexist and see some awesome late-arrival titles [*coughpandora'stower*] but I'm just not so sure.
MARKET Fortune Street and Rhythm Heaven. Do so aggressively! The Mario Party crowd will snap Fortune Street up if they just knew about it. Fact-I have a group of avid Nintendo fanboy friends. We play MP at least once or twice every few months together. One of them even subscribes [at least, they did] to Nintendo Power. They knew NOTHING of Fortune Street, not a single one [until I told them.] Rhythm Heaven built up a cult following and has the potential to be big too, if you TELL PEOPLE ABOUT IT.
And for goodness sake, RELEASE THE OPERATION RAINFALL TRIO. JUST. DO. IT. Do a small print run, some ads and press releases, and capitalize off all the publicity OpRa's done for these games, and swallow. your. pride. Will you make Zelda-bucks off it? Even Kirby-size profits? Probably not. But you'll gain back a lot of good faith that will help your next console/handheld [oh hi, 3DS]/games sell better because fans feel less shafted and see a greater chance that games they want will release next time. Pull an Atlus/NISA-they stay afloat on niche titles somehow. Surely you can too, NOA.
You're in a tight spot, NOA/Reggie. You can pull through, but you won't pull through unless you make a few changes. :/ I, for one, would LOVE to see the systems coexist and see some awesome late-arrival titles [*coughpandora'stower*] but I'm just not so sure.
Why do I get the feeling that the Wii-U is going to be overpriced for what it'll really do hardware-wise (being saddled with that single tablet that'll probably bump the price up -not withstanding) just so Nintendo can recoup their losses for this year, if they even really have any by the end of this season?
And yeah, Nintendo says this every new generation, but now that they actually do manage to add in backwards compatibility they're really no different then the rest of the industry that says the same exact thing. No one drops support of their prior system knowing that not every one runs out on launch day to get the new one, and that it would be absolutely stupid to do such a thing.
Shit, look right back at Nintendo and what they're still doing with the DS', none of the sales figures I've seen have shown DS sales because they're all to focused on the 3DS drama, but surely even the DS sold well this year too, despite the 3DS actually being the better deal because of the backwards compatability.. Theres still a lot of hold outs, people who don't know a DS from a dick in the wall, or just people who want to get a tough/inexpensive system for their kids to beat up (which, I'll be honest, having a 3DS doesn't prove to me that its one of those systems).
And yeah, Nintendo says this every new generation, but now that they actually do manage to add in backwards compatibility they're really no different then the rest of the industry that says the same exact thing. No one drops support of their prior system knowing that not every one runs out on launch day to get the new one, and that it would be absolutely stupid to do such a thing.
Shit, look right back at Nintendo and what they're still doing with the DS', none of the sales figures I've seen have shown DS sales because they're all to focused on the 3DS drama, but surely even the DS sold well this year too, despite the 3DS actually being the better deal because of the backwards compatability.. Theres still a lot of hold outs, people who don't know a DS from a dick in the wall, or just people who want to get a tough/inexpensive system for their kids to beat up (which, I'll be honest, having a 3DS doesn't prove to me that its one of those systems).
@PrinceHeir
I don't know if anyones confirmed it yet or not, but this could be the revamped console without wi-fi and BC that Europe was supposed to be getting, and it might have spred to the states.
However, as far as I've seen, No ones said a thing one way or the other on if it is or not- so I'd beware getting one unless you JUST want to play Wii games and nothing else.
I don't know if anyones confirmed it yet or not, but this could be the revamped console without wi-fi and BC that Europe was supposed to be getting, and it might have spred to the states.
However, as far as I've seen, No ones said a thing one way or the other on if it is or not- so I'd beware getting one unless you JUST want to play Wii games and nothing else.
~.~ Every time I see a Xenoblade pic, my heart skips a beat and I get all giddy and think "Maybe just Maybe NOA has finally pulled their heads out of their asses and announced a NA release window for the Wii"
Every time My hopes are expertly dashed
Well played Jim, well played .....
Every time My hopes are expertly dashed
Well played Jim, well played .....
@SmithyX
Muramasa, Little King's Story, Super Mario Galaxy (both), Super Smash Bros Brawl, Wario Land Shake, Kirby's Epic Yarn (and the new one too is awesome), Zack and Wiki, Monster Hunter Tri, Punch-Out and Fucking Donkey Kong Country Fucking Returns.
There ya go.
inb4 these games suck/are too old/are not innovative enough/those are all rehashes/I'm a nintendo fanboy/nintendo sucks/melee is better/I suck/xenoblade is the pinnacle of mankind/lists are stupid/ etc.
Muramasa, Little King's Story, Super Mario Galaxy (both), Super Smash Bros Brawl, Wario Land Shake, Kirby's Epic Yarn (and the new one too is awesome), Zack and Wiki, Monster Hunter Tri, Punch-Out and Fucking Donkey Kong Country Fucking Returns.
There ya go.
inb4 these games suck/are too old/are not innovative enough/those are all rehashes/I'm a nintendo fanboy/nintendo sucks/melee is better/I suck/xenoblade is the pinnacle of mankind/lists are stupid/ etc.
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