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Though there have always been plenty of "hardcore" games on the Wii, Nintendo's marketing push for the console has generally remained focused on the budding "casual" market. Watch families play Wii Sports on the couch! Watch random travelers play Metroid Prime 3 at the airport! Nintendo seemed to be saying "Focus on the people, not the game! People are marketable! Games are not!" That's just one of the reasons that the Wii has gained a reputation for being an "amateur console".

Now Nintendo is playing catch-up. Along with the release of the black Wii (which apparently makes the Wii "less amateur" to some) Nintendo UK has put out this video showcasing some of the newer "traditional" games on the console, and set to a potentially-irritating "ROCK AND ROLL" soundtrack. Since it's rated Pegi 16, the video lacks some of my personal favorites, like Silent Hill: Shattered Memories and No More Heroes 2, but there is still plenty here to like. Any person or thing that spreads the word about Little King's Story is alright by me.

We've seen these kinds of "Wii lists" on message boards and internet chats for years now. In fact, the first time I wrote one myself was before the Wii was even released. Someone on Shoryuken.com said something about how "the Wii won't have any good games", and I immediately responded with a "WRONG! Metal Slug Anthology, Trauma Center: Second Opinion, LoZ: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3, and Super Smash Bros. Brawl are going to be AWESOMEZ!"

Do you think that this random internet stranger was swayed by my oh-so-convincing list? I doubt it, and I also doubt that this video will convince anyone who has already decided against the Wii to change their minds. There is a chance that those who don't follow videogame news and/or have otherwise ignored the Wii might get something out of it. How about you? Did this video do anything to change your perspective on the Wii?

Nintendo UK releases the most ridiculously hardcore Wii promo video I've ever seen- [GoNintendo]








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Opa-Opa's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:09
Opa-Opa
This ad reminds me a LOT of that imaginary Phantom console fiasco. Kind of sucks.
RichardBlaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:14
RichardBlaine
I think the thing about Nintendo consoles for the past few generations is that there are a lot of horrible, horrible games (though the same can be said for any console really). Since most of those horrible games tend to be aimed at a younger audience, people focus on that. That being said, the many high quality titles ("hardcore" or not) that do hit Nintendo consoles are usually some of the strongest from any platform. Super Mario Galaxy 2 being an example of a recent Nintendo exclusive game that everyone seems to agree is near flawless.
pedrron's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:35
pedrron
They should of added No More Heroes!
Stakmaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:42
Stakmaster
Nintendo thinks those are hardcore games? All I saw was a bunch of japanese garbage, Metroid, Mario, and Monster Hunter.
Kytherno's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:45
Kytherno
This video is highly inaccurate. Proof being that Crystal Bearers is up there.

I like Squeenix and all, but really? That game couldn't have gotten worse.
Pencoin's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:46
Pencoin
@ Stakmaster

I bet I know what you think a hardcore game is!
Call of Duty?
Halo?
Mass Effect?

If it wasn't one of those games, I bet I was close!
You see Hardcore doesn't refer to a game that has violence, gore or sex. It refers to, in my opinion, a 'real' game.
FunkzillaBOT's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:49
FunkzillaBOT
Not really. I already have a Wii. For every 10 games I buy, I might buy one for the Wii. That pattern hasn't changed. There are great games for the Wii. However the problem is, I HATE that f*cking controller. I just hate it. It's a novelty that has worn off.

Having to sit -- directly -- in front of the sense bar, which in my case means moving the couch closer to the TV. Or use another chair and sit in front of the couch, which is very uncomfortable playing for long periods of time. Being that close to a TV that big hurts my eyes. All that waggling is irritating and kills my hands, bringing my play time down to about an hour.

All of this could be solved by simply using a NORMAL controller, so I can have back control of the freaking camera. (the classic controller is still tied to the stupid sensor bar. I mean a REAL controller. Like the Xbox360 or Sony) Either Nintendo wants Grandma to play this or they want GAMERS play this, but not both. Sorry. This is what you wanted Nintendo, so you complain about it now. No backsies.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:50
killias2
"Nintendo thinks those are hardcore games? All I saw was a bunch of japanese garbage, Metroid, Mario, and Monster Hunter."

Well those are hardcore games. Oh, I get it. You don't play video games a lot. Let me explain. Mario is this really famous character who has been in most of the highest selling and most highly rated games ever made. Metroid is this old school hardcore series, but I won't say more. Clearly, you've never heard of systems before Halo, so I won't waste your time by explaining. Finally, some hardcore gamers play these games from another country. It's called Japan, and it's actually been at the heart and soul of many of the most hardcore sets of gamers out there. But, again, you must not play games much, so I won't try to explain why they're interested.

Why are you at Destructoid again?
Stakmaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:50
Stakmaster
@Pencoin

I was actually referring to games like Demon's Souls. I hate Call of Duty, Halo, and Mass Effect. It's the same stupid stuff over and over again.
Stakmaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:52
Stakmaster
@Killias

Ugh, you misunderstood me. I said Metroid, Mario, and Monster Hunter were the only good games there. The rest was Japanese garbage. Get it right before trying to "school me".
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:52
killias2
"I was actually referring to games like Demon's Souls. I hate Call of Duty, Halo, and Mass Effect. It's the same stupid stuff over and over again."

You do realize what 90% of the country probably thinks of Demon's Souls besides us hardcore? They probably think "Japanese garbage."
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:53
killias2
Hahaha, I figured you were totally trolling, although I'm still not sure. ;-)

Well, anyone who likes Demon's Souls at least gets some cred...
Stakmaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:55
Stakmaster
I'm pretty sure people will call Rune Factory garbage before Demon's Souls...
valhum's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:56
valhum
That was a pretty cool video, made me want to buy me some games......Galaxy 2 has been waiting for me for over a week =(
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:56
Jonathan Holmes
@ Stakmaster- Demon Souls is Japanese, as are Mario, Metroid, and Monster Hunter.

Also, Little King's Story is not garbage.
Stakmaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 14:58
Stakmaster
@Jonathan
But Demon's Souls, Mario, Metroid, and Monster Hunter are not garbage, are they now? Was my comment really this hard to understand?
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 15:01
Tubatic
Bow before the Inevitable List, mortals!!!!!!
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 15:03
Super Drybones
@Hilmes

Little King's Story is actually about Pimps. Think about it.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 15:06
Super Drybones
Damn "I" next to the "O".
The Fundoshis's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 15:10
The Fundoshis
@stakmaster

your comment made you sound like a prick, thats what.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 15:11
Jonathan Holmes
@ Stakmaster- Yes it was, because you used the descriptor "Japanese", which implies that you think those games are garbage because of the country they came from.

Throwing race or country into a discussion is a quick and easy way to become misunderstood and/pr sound stupid. Sadly, I know from experience. I used to bag on "western games" all the time, until I sudden came to my senses and realized that tons of games from the US and Europe are totally awesome.
Stakmaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 15:21
Stakmaster
I'm sorry if I made it seem like I thought all Japanese games were crap, even though I did point out that the very Japanese Mario, Metroid, and Monster Hunter were good games. I just meant to say that a lot of the games in the trailer were the same typical Japanese-style game we've seen time and time again, and let's face it, a lot of them aren't very different and as such turn out to be not very good.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 15:38
Jonathan Holmes
@ Stakmaster- Oh no, need to apologize. I just misunderstood you is all.

And though I haven't played all the games in the video, I have played a lot of them, and I'll tell you that Little King's Story, FFCC: The Crystal Bearers, Muramasa, and Rune Factory Frontier are anything but "same-y". They all have their flaws, unsurprising art direction being one of them, but they are all unlike any other game I've played before.

Rune Factory Frontier is a farm/dating/dungeon crawling/spirit harvesting sim, FFCC: The Crystal Bearers is like Noby Noby Boy but with a story and psychic powers, Muramasa is 2D RPG/Beat 'em up, and Little King's Story is like Pikmin mixed with Populous mixed with Monster Hunter mixed with Chulip.

All very weird, interesting games, definitely not "typical" of anything.

And don't get me started on how special Tatsunoko Vs Capcom and Sin & Punishment 2 are to me.
GohanGVO's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 15:40
GohanGVO
How strange is it that Nintendo of Europe seems to be the most traditionalist of the three major branches of Nintendo (NoA, NCL, NoE)? With promotional videos like this one, their cool game-specific alterations to the NoE site and their localization of games the U.S. doesn't have, it's baffling to me how lackadaisical NoA is by comparison.
Mpeters's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 15:41
Mpeters
These always turn into hatervilles. Why cant people just relax?
Stakmaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 15:52
Stakmaster
@J Holmes

Well, I guess they don't sound too uninspired. And...did you just say Crystal Bearers is like Noby Noby Boy...? The people stretch and eat people? Uhhh...
idrawrobots's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 15:58
idrawrobots
There wasn't nearly enough brown and grey in that video.
Stakmaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 15:58
Stakmaster
@Mattrodroid

If that was in response to my comments, I don't have a rotten attitude towards any console, just when developers feel perfectly fine about releasing the same stuff. I HAD a Wii for cripes sakes.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 16:04
Jonathan Holmes
@ Stakmaster- Yeah, FFCC:The Crystal Bearers has the same sort of "Explore a weird place filled with weird things, and see what kind of reactions you can get out of the weird world you live in" feel as Noby Noby Boy. Though it looks serious, most of it's best moments come from humor. I figured that out the first time that I used dog poop to kill a skeleton, and my psychic powers to pick up a cow use its udders like a machine gun.

@ GohanGVO- Nintendo UK > Nintendo USA. Nintendo UK releases more games (Tingle DS, Trace Memory 2, Disaster: Day or Crisis), releases games sooner (Mario Kart Wii, Sin and Punishment 2) and are just overall more games focused. Reggie would be ashamed, it Nintendo of America weren't rolling in all that money.

@ Mattrodroid- I used to say things like that too, then I gave up. Maybe I should give it another try someday?
LittleBigD's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 16:14
LittleBigD
How do you define casual, and hardcore gamers anyway? Seems to me that a hardcore gamer would own every type of console to do with gaming, including a Wii, and own the best games to compliment their consoles. They'd probably be pretty good at completing said games as well. Besides pro gamers though who has that kind of money and free time though?
Most people who consider themselves hardcore because they've logged 100+ hours into MW2 multiplayer on their 360, and shooters are all they play, just think they're hardcore. They're too brainwashed into believing what they think a hardcore gamer is to realize what they're missing. There are plenty of fun games on the Wii. Just ignore the obvious shovelware (like you would for any system) and you'll have a damn good time.
CAP's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 16:24
CAP
Glad to see Crystal Bearers getting a look in. Its one of my favorites of the year, along with Sin and Punishment 2 and TvsC. Its different, but great.
Cynic without a Cause's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 16:35
Cynic without a Cause
@LittleBigD- I've always defined them as the people who buy a shiny brand new console and do nothing with it but buy Madden every year and whatever the most recent Halo is. Or, (when I worked at a game store a while back) the people who would come in and drop $600 on a brand new PS3, and then ask me "Ok, what kinda games are there?" Every time that happened, I just couldn't believe it.
PEICanada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 17:21
PEICanada7
I liked the video. This is what Nintendo needs to get back to doing. Nice sizzle-reel trailers, showing off a ton of games. Lets hope they continue this trend at E3. More showing good games and less talking people to death, yeah that would be nice for this years E3!
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 17:49
EdgyDude
Even though i would have included a few more games like Metroid Prime Trilogy, Shattered Memories, Trauma Team, Twilight Princess, Punch Out!, No More Heroes 2, Mario Strikers Charged, Excitebots and Madworld (though i dislike it most people seem to enjoy it) this is still a solid marketing push for the core audience from NoE, too bad NoA is nowhere near as bold as their old continent sibling.
Cyber Altair's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 18:03
Cyber Altair
lololol japan sucks1!!111!!!!!
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 18:11
Jonathan Holmes
@ EdgyDude- Yeah, the lack of Trauma Team is weird. The others you mentioned probably weren't included because they are M rated and/or are too old.

It also would have been cool to see more WiiWare games.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 18:18
EternalDeathSlayer
Did somebody include Mass Effect in their list of games that are "the same over and over again"?

Really? Apparently you enjoy missing out on what is possibly the best story-driven game ever made. Too bad for you.

Oh, and I meant ME2. ME1 was more like a practice mode for BioWare. ME2 was damn near perfect.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 18:20
Jonathan Holmes
@ EDS- I tried to play Mass Effect 2. I didn't like the setting, the characters, the acting, the story, the graphics, or the gameplay.

The music was good though.

Maybe it gets better, but the first couple of hours were tough to get through.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 18:47
EternalDeathSlayer
@ Jonathan Holmes: I wasn't referring to you. If you don't like it, you don't like it. But for somebody to say it's some generic title or something, well, that's BS.

I was referring to Stakmaster, who likes to make blanket statements that show he clearly hasn't even tried Mass Effect. At least you tried to play it.

BTW, the second half of the game is pretty awesome. Music is awesome throughout.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 19:15
Jonathan Holmes
@ EDS- It's a game I'd like to watch someone else play. It was the same way with the Metal Gear Solid games. I appreciate them, I know they're well made, but I just don't like playing them.

My loss.
Nothankyou's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 19:20
Nothankyou
You could at least link to the promo website which lists many of the games people think are "missing", the video is only part of the promotion.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 19:22
Jonathan Holmes
@ Nothankyou- I did.

Also, why so bitchy?
Cynic without a Cause's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 19:24
Cynic without a Cause
@Jonathan- Actually watched my friend play a lot of it and it is pretty good that way. Not REALLY my kinda games but I can definitely respect them, and have to say that the ending boss of the second game is pretty dang cool.
Nothankyou's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 19:27
Nothankyou
Sorry I missed that.

(not sorry for being bitchy, I don't think I am, but feel free to disagree).
Nothankyou's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 19:29
Nothankyou
Also I agree the video is pretty badly done, even if its intentions come through anyway. The footage seems randomly taken from trailers, even though each game only gets a few seconds they didn't care to show actual good gameplay action so some just look weird to someone who doesn't already know the games.
PKAwesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 19:32
PKAwesome
I define a hardcore gamer as one who regularly visits video game sites like Destructiod, IGN, Gamespot, Joystiq, etc and knows about games that the average consumer probably has never heard of such as No More Heroes and Red Steel and other Games that aren't commonly advertised in the media.

To me, being a hardcore gamer is one who has 100% committment to a game, usually games that are of hard difficulty such as Demon's Souls, the original Mega Man series, Monster Hunter, and Battletoads are some that come to my mind.

There are hardcore Nintendo fans and those fans are the ones who have been owning Nintendo systems since the NES and being big fans of Mario and other 1st party series, even though to the untrained eyes, it looks to be the opposite of "hardcore".

Overall, there are plenty of 3-rd party and difficult games on the Wii, considering that's what most people bi*ch and whine about on the Wii. One just has to look for it.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 19:43
EternalDeathSlayer
It's ok Jon, it's my loss when I miss out on games like the bit.trip series.

We're just different.
Stakmaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 20:18
Stakmaster
@EDS

I actually have played Mass Effect 1. Believe it or not, I've played a lot of games people seem to think I havn't. ME was really, really boring, and I'm not nearly the only person who thinks so. I said I hated CoD, Halo, and ME. I think CoD and Halo are the same thing repeatedly, ME is just boring.
bustaballs's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 20:21
bustaballs
All of those games are amazing and that doesn't even BEGIN to cover the amazing titles on the Wii. I'm a serious retro gamer but with the library on the Wii, it might soon become my favorite system of all time. I literally can't keep up with all of the awesome games that come out on that system. I also have a 360 that I like but, to be honest, I haven't turned it on in over a year and that was so I could let someone else play Lost Odyssey.
CAP's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/06/2010 01:38
CAP
@EdgyDude
No Excitebots because no UK Release!

I still haven't quite managed to get over that.
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