I can't tell if Nintendo is being really smug or just tried a ton of crap before deciding on wii.

I don't know what to make of it. I do know that the only reason Microsoft and Sony are doing this is because they're jumping on the bandwagon of the Wii's success, so I guess Nintendo has the right to be a bit smug if they are.

I dont think there will ever be a complete replacement for the controller. Sure, these things can be sort of neat and novelty but they are just that...novelty. Its the motion control, and the lack of processing power, thats holding nintendo back right now. And I'm sorry...if you look at game sales, the Wii is not doing very well.

When I see all the motion control stuff, from MS, Sony and Nintendo, just two words come to mind.

Power Glove.

Nintendo has every right to be smug. Microsoft and Sony had better have something good if they plan on really dominating the Wii/Casual market.

I really just don't see it panning out. Even if they work well they aren't going to do what they want for the companies. They think motion controls will get them sales like the Wii has achieved and that just isn't going to happen.

I hate to say it but as the EyeToy was around back thn it is no surprise Iwata an company tried to give it a try too. This however could be much better, time will tell.

I'm calling bullshit on this and everyone else with at least half their brain intact should as well.

What Sony is doing is EXACTLY the same (in principle) as what Nintendo currently does with the Wii, only in reverse and with higher fidelity. The Wii remote contains a camera that reads the infrared lights on the "sensor bar" and translates that into motion data. Sony is doing the same basic thing except they're putting the camera on the television and the lights on the controller. While Sony hasn't said anything about it I'd be VERY surprised if they didn't also include accelerometers in the final version of their controller considering that they put them (mostly uselessly, with a few minor exceptions) in the Sixaxis and Dual Shock 3 controllers. Those too will probably deliver a much higher fidelity than the standard Wii remote and will at the very least be comparable to Wii Motion Plus.

Now what Microsoft is doing is fairly different, but also has a lot less potential for fun gameplay regardless of how cool the technology they purchased is. From a gameplay standpoint I can't see how it's anything other than a high fidelity EyeToy, which will probably have one or two briefly fun, but highly gimmicky, titles and then a deluge of crap that'll make everyone long for the days when the worst they had to complain about was wagglefest shovelware for Wii. That is until whoever they have running the Xbox division realizes what a failure it is and they pretend it never existed while pushing something more along the lines of the Wii remote, leaving the Natal technology to die without ever getting a chance to be applied to problems to which it might provide an interesting and useful solution.

And it doesn't detect black people.

As I've said before, gamers are lazy. The future of gaming is mind control, or jacking in or something, not pretending to move in a manner similar to the real thing. If they wanted to kick when playing soccer, they'd play soccer. It might have a bit of appeal to some, but the large majority of gamers are going to be in for a rude awakening when they realize they need to actually dodge punches, or jump. Cater to the lazy, and the lazy will reward you with riches. Cater to the motivated, and they will likely be motivated to just do the real thing.

In short: Motion sensitive control is such old hat. Brain waves are where it's at (or at least it should be...)

All this stuff is garbage. Where are my games?

Wave of the future.