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Well, if you make your money selling software, I imagine that people thinking it's okay to steal software worries you. It makes sense to me. I don't know what the solution is though, so I guess broke pirates and continued anti-piracy measures from multi-million companies are destined to do battle until someone figures it out.
It really doesn't matter what measures they take, if there's a will to do it, it will happen. I think they should do something in the order of Steam: A store thing, throw in some achievements, and give it a decent social network service. That, shown by increased PC sales, should help. GET ON IT.
If talking about what measures you implement to prevent the hacking of a system could already compromise those measures than they are already useless. The only thing that has been successful so far is the system implemented in both the 360 and the PS3, where the CPU constantly checks whether the executed code is signed by MS/Sony by an on die Hypervisor. Of course in the case of the 360 it would have been much more successful if you couldn't just hack the DVD drive instead.
Still the method is probably the only one with at least a small hope for beeing unhackable with a reasonabel amount of effort. No system is completely unhackable though.
Still the method is probably the only one with at least a small hope for beeing unhackable with a reasonabel amount of effort. No system is completely unhackable though.
Every copy of the game comes with a small japanese man who can give the player a secret password. piracy solved.
Lets just hope whatever new measures they put in operate in the background as theres nothing more annoying then DRM.
coat the motherboard and wiring with a special nerve toxin that causes anaphylactic upon contact, its the only way!!!
The PS3 has been pretty successful. The problem with the DS is that it's cheap and easy to "hack" it. Anyone can do it.
That's the big problem.
That's the big problem.
Unless the console is completely closed, as in the only way to put games in it is through Nintendo's own marketplace, I can't see the 3DS do anything more then the previous DS's have. And since I highly doubt that will be the case, its just a matter of time, once again.
You can't stop hackers and every portable console is easy to hack because it simply can't fit the same amount of software as a home console.
Lower the prices to like, $5.00 a game. $10.00 for a big one. This would cut out a majority of pirates (at least, the ones like me). Who are just annoyed by the slippery slope of game prices.
I'd like to see reasonably priced, easily accessible downloadable software for the next DS. The worst thing about the DS, aside from the fairly widespread faults with the dpad construction on the DS Lite, is that you have to carry around a pocket full of stupid cartridges.
Too bad that Nintendo is so far behind the times on online infrastructure that we probably won't be seeing a quality solution from them for a long, long time.
Too bad that Nintendo is so far behind the times on online infrastructure that we probably won't be seeing a quality solution from them for a long, long time.
@Jungle Mullet
Games are never that cheap so I have no idea why you would expect them to be that price and unless you live in one of the countries that are genuinely screwed over by prices (note: everywhere except the US) then most games are at a reasonable price. These aren't iTouch games. People actually put time and effort into making the things you copy for free.
Games are never that cheap so I have no idea why you would expect them to be that price and unless you live in one of the countries that are genuinely screwed over by prices (note: everywhere except the US) then most games are at a reasonable price. These aren't iTouch games. People actually put time and effort into making the things you copy for free.
I think for most "pirates", convenience is a big factor when downloading games. The fact that you can download games without having to wait for a shipment for an online purchase, or have to drive to a store to get it plays a big part. Also, the fact that you can store 30-40 games on a single cart is pretty tempting. Especially for those of us who have major gamer A.D.D.
lol, so what Nintendo. They will drop millions of dollars into developing some new anti-piracy measure, and either some random kid or a group of people will have it broken within a week after the device is released. How about funneling that money into making the device cheaper or making the games less expensive.
Too bad that there are always going to be people who feel entitled to getting games for nothing, or we wouldn't even have to worry about this kind of thing. Oh well.
Oh great, that means I have to wait 3 months until someone cracks it and the 3DS is worth buying instead of 2 months. Woe is me.
Each game should come with one of those wheel things and whenever you run your game it should tell you where to turn the wheel to reveal a code.
I just solved piracy.
I just solved piracy.
Make incentives to buy the game? The PokeWalker is an example.
Heavier encryption, especially with the bits system we use, will eventually crumble. You can't hack physical products, though. I can't think of anything they could do, though... screen filters?
Heavier encryption, especially with the bits system we use, will eventually crumble. You can't hack physical products, though. I can't think of anything they could do, though... screen filters?
I really don't get how people can genuinely say handheld games are expensive.
If you can't afford a $30 game, I think the issue isn't with the game's cost, but with you.
And I've known people to pirate games that can be bought for under $5. Anyone that's complaining about the prices now wouldn't buy the games even if they were a penny because they'll continue to think "why buy something you can get for free?"
Most people don't understand the work it takes to make a good game.
If you can't afford a $30 game, I think the issue isn't with the game's cost, but with you.
And I've known people to pirate games that can be bought for under $5. Anyone that's complaining about the prices now wouldn't buy the games even if they were a penny because they'll continue to think "why buy something you can get for free?"
Most people don't understand the work it takes to make a good game.
Hand held games are overpriced, especially when they are for a Nintendo system. While games for other systems fall in price over time, hand held games are kept artificially high.
As a result, I buy few DS games. I wait for sales or use ebay. Perhaps if nintendo offered a DL service too, prices might drop a bit. Regestration once loading a game with Nintendo's servers would help their piracy problem. Better customer service via Nintendo club could also help.
As a result, I buy few DS games. I wait for sales or use ebay. Perhaps if nintendo offered a DL service too, prices might drop a bit. Regestration once loading a game with Nintendo's servers would help their piracy problem. Better customer service via Nintendo club could also help.
Simple solution: Put an SD slot on the device and sell ROMs from your online store. I don't pirate the DS because I'm a poor hater, I pirate because it's more convenient.
@GoldenGamerXero People actually put time and effort into making the things you copy for free.
Unless they don't- granted there are some great games for the DS like puzzlequest and advanced wars and might and magic heroes and such that deserve the $ you pay but then there are stupid "imagine puppy cake ballerinas" or "hamster makeover" or a million other titles that water down the platform and make no one feel that anything is worth paying for on it.
Unless they don't- granted there are some great games for the DS like puzzlequest and advanced wars and might and magic heroes and such that deserve the $ you pay but then there are stupid "imagine puppy cake ballerinas" or "hamster makeover" or a million other titles that water down the platform and make no one feel that anything is worth paying for on it.
"Nintendo hate your ROM downloading", that's obvious, or they wouldn't be bringing out a new DS model every 2 seconds.
I understand there dilemma, but as soon as Nintendo brings out the 3DS (and the 4DS the freaking year after that), *China* will have already pulled the unit apart, discovered how it works, and made an R5 Card for that model. (And an R5i Card for the model after that). Again, Nintendo E for effort but about a BILLION points off for execution.
Apple doesn't seem to have this problem? Why is that? Mmmm… let's think about it, shall we? What Nintendo needs to do is figure out a way to make it easier for their customers to actually get the games on the consoles and portables -- ie: ditch the freaking POINTS! Games are too expensive. DON'T tie the software to the unit, then screw me over when I have to get the new one, when you've release a new handheld product ever other week (at this point).
Trying thinking outside the box for 5 minutes -- you maybe surprised at what might happen, if you actually did things differently, instead of doing things the exact same, because you've always done it that way. Your company get's tire and stale.
I understand there dilemma, but as soon as Nintendo brings out the 3DS (and the 4DS the freaking year after that), *China* will have already pulled the unit apart, discovered how it works, and made an R5 Card for that model. (And an R5i Card for the model after that). Again, Nintendo E for effort but about a BILLION points off for execution.
Apple doesn't seem to have this problem? Why is that? Mmmm… let's think about it, shall we? What Nintendo needs to do is figure out a way to make it easier for their customers to actually get the games on the consoles and portables -- ie: ditch the freaking POINTS! Games are too expensive. DON'T tie the software to the unit, then screw me over when I have to get the new one, when you've release a new handheld product ever other week (at this point).
Trying thinking outside the box for 5 minutes -- you maybe surprised at what might happen, if you actually did things differently, instead of doing things the exact same, because you've always done it that way. Your company get's tire and stale.
"Apple doesn't seem to have this problem?"
Apple has a MASSIVE piracy problem. 80% of app downloads are down by pirates running jailbroken devices.
There was an article about it on Kotaku recently.
Apple has a MASSIVE piracy problem. 80% of app downloads are down by pirates running jailbroken devices.
There was an article about it on Kotaku recently.
@Mozz-eyes
If you read that Kotaku article in its entirety, you'll see that that number is inflated because pirates download WAY more games than non-pirates, due to the fact pirates don't have to pay for those downloads.
But the only way to pirate on the iPhone/iPod/iPad is jailbreaking, which is only done by ~10% of users worldwide, so App Store devs lose, at most, only 10% of potential sales.
As for how Nintendo might make 3DS games less easily pirated, the answer is simple: all 3DS games will be download-only and let developers set the prices. I'll be shocked if the 3DS introduces yet another cartridge format.
If you read that Kotaku article in its entirety, you'll see that that number is inflated because pirates download WAY more games than non-pirates, due to the fact pirates don't have to pay for those downloads.
But the only way to pirate on the iPhone/iPod/iPad is jailbreaking, which is only done by ~10% of users worldwide, so App Store devs lose, at most, only 10% of potential sales.
As for how Nintendo might make 3DS games less easily pirated, the answer is simple: all 3DS games will be download-only and let developers set the prices. I'll be shocked if the 3DS introduces yet another cartridge format.
I just hope more security don't translate into draconian countermeasures suffered by all, but the pirates, like internet activation or, gosh, I hate the very thought, permanent connection.
If the prices could be lowered to something ludicrous like $1-5, I'm sure there would still be people out there pirating shit. Piracy succeeds because of people being cheap, people being shallow, or people requiring a sense of empowerment, even it's the cheap-ass private pleasure of feeling like you beat the system by playing the new Zelda game for free. Even if the price issue goes away, there's still an ethically-empty asshole left behind.
Rampant piracy is symptomatic of overpricing. The quality of DS software is abysmal and the excessive cost for what you get in most cases makes it feel like a big crap shoot. If games were reasonably priced and weren't shovled onto the system only the really hardcore pirates would bother with crap like the R4.
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