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Do they realise that the moment the pictures were published, the damage was done.
I can find you pictures of the new Pokemon, right now, in no time at all.
It serves nothing to threaten them now.
I can find you pictures of the new Pokemon, right now, in no time at all.
It serves nothing to threaten them now.
Why do they care? Especially now, all of a sudden? Pictures of pokemon have been on the internet for YEARS and it isn't until now Nintendo decides to make a dick move?
Correct me if i'm wrong but the reason Nintnedo wanted to take down the pictures in the first place is because they were using a ROM to take the pictures.
Seriously Nintendo? Seriously?! Get the mudkips out of vaginas and calm the hell down!! It's Pokemon!! It's gonna sell just fine!
Wow, that's just ridiculously stupid. It's been a while since Nintendo has acted so out of touch, but apparently all that money hasn't made them any smarter.
What Paulink said. Also: Expecting people to obey laws is bullying now? Rare was within their rights, as was Nintendo. This shit happens every day. Paramount runs around gleefully shutting down Star Trek fansites. This is nothing new.
Personally, those sites were kinda shit anyway. I generally use Bulbapedia anyway.
Personally, those sites were kinda shit anyway. I generally use Bulbapedia anyway.
Why now? Black and White are out. The Pokemon were leaked like 15 minutes before the game launched officially and it's not like the data was going to be kept secret anyway. If it were anything other than a major corporation threatening niche bloggers Serebii and Pokerbeach could literally just completely ignore this nonsense with no danger. However, even if Nintendo knows with complete certainty that there is no possible real way to do anything to either of these sites, they could probably bankrupt them by filing a pointless lawsuit.
what? unless these sites are charging for access to these pictures, nintendo can't do a godam thing.
its called freedom of the press and nintendo may have japan under their thunb but the rest of the world will not be bullied by another corporaion, its not like its a matter of national security, its a company, not a country.
its called freedom of the press and nintendo may have japan under their thunb but the rest of the world will not be bullied by another corporaion, its not like its a matter of national security, its a company, not a country.
Yeah I'm pretty sure the games are out in Japan. Maybe Nintendo HQ's calendars are all still at a month earlier?
aaaaand every other generation has leaked prior to its release much earlier than this one did soo... Why Nintendo? Why you do dis for?
aaaaand every other generation has leaked prior to its release much earlier than this one did soo... Why Nintendo? Why you do dis for?
Maybe the new Pokémon games have some special secrets that Nintendo doesn't want to be spoiled. It's just a thought.
Well if I were a pokemon player I would reneg on buying the new games, companies that shit on thier fans deserve no support.
I honestly think those letters were actual troll attempts created by some unscrupulous douchebag, as the contents of each website's letter have varied somewhat, not to mention coming from different locales. Nintendo's never had a problem before with Pokemon being revealed early in North America, not to mention that Nintendo's never filed a NDA on the images before.
On top of that, isn't it usually "The Pokemon Company" within Nintendo that handles these sort of things? And it only appears to be the more popular fansites that were hit as opposed to every single one that revealed the new Pokemon. Again, I'm skeptical of the validity of those emails.
So, before I hop on the "Fuck Nintendo for fucking fans" bandwagon, let's see what the investigations reveal...as well as let's hear what Nintendo themselves have to say.
On top of that, isn't it usually "The Pokemon Company" within Nintendo that handles these sort of things? And it only appears to be the more popular fansites that were hit as opposed to every single one that revealed the new Pokemon. Again, I'm skeptical of the validity of those emails.
So, before I hop on the "Fuck Nintendo for fucking fans" bandwagon, let's see what the investigations reveal...as well as let's hear what Nintendo themselves have to say.
This isn't the first time Nintendo's done this kind of thing. Sadly, Nintendo does seem to have a rather poor attitude towards its fanbase.
http://play.tm/news/17090/nintendo-attacks-fansite/
http://play.tm/news/17090/nintendo-attacks-fansite/
In other news, sales of the Cyclone and R4 cards have suddenly sky-rocketed!
Its this kind of behavior that creates bitterness in this consumer base(s) which will then lead to a backlash of pirating.
Its this kind of behavior that creates bitterness in this consumer base(s) which will then lead to a backlash of pirating.
I suggest every fan of Pokemon threatened like this, takes those photos to every single website on the entire internet. Fuck you, Nintendo.
Its has to do with the fact that both sites used roms and stupidly admitted to it by complaining about not gaining exp at all which is the new ap on the game
Tubatic is right. The sites were caught using illegal ROMs of Black/White to get the info. Other sites that got it legally aren't being attacked.
What kind of a dumbass reply is it to ask why Nintendo doesn't do anything against piracy and they come down on these sites? Nintendo did this because it CAN; they can't do too much about piracy so they go after those they can target. Alienating devoted fans aside, if the law is Nintendo's side then don't whine about Nintendo, whine about that stupid DMCA, it's trash law.
@SuperDance its fun that thats true the 2 sites claiming to have been issued a c&d both used ROMs of the game which led to misinformation not mention its not the first time both sites have done this they did it with HG/SS
O SHI
http://www.destructoid.com/tgs-a-massive-amount-of-new-pokemon-have-been-revealed-184134.phtml
You're next Destructoid XD
http://www.destructoid.com/tgs-a-massive-amount-of-new-pokemon-have-been-revealed-184134.phtml
You're next Destructoid XD
imagine every wiki/gamefaq type site being taken down because of nintendos policies. its folly to bully the people who show nothing but support and admiration for your product.
seriously, i've never heard of these fansites and are they were relly killing all the profits nintendos making? i don't think so, this is just nintendo flexing its muscles and hoping the law will be behind them. free advertising is free advertising, nintendo needs to learn how to use the internet.
they've lost the war against piracy and are just looking for vengence on a site that only shows love.
makes me wish i hadn't just started playing soul/silver but i do love me some great turn based catch em all action.
seriously, i've never heard of these fansites and are they were relly killing all the profits nintendos making? i don't think so, this is just nintendo flexing its muscles and hoping the law will be behind them. free advertising is free advertising, nintendo needs to learn how to use the internet.
they've lost the war against piracy and are just looking for vengence on a site that only shows love.
makes me wish i hadn't just started playing soul/silver but i do love me some great turn based catch em all action.
Maybe game companies like Nintendo will catch on. It's not the old days anymore. Get your shit localized and release simultaneously worldwide.
@ Tubatic & SuperDance
That makes a whole lot more sense now, sorta. I guess if you walk around saying "I have a ROM of a game I obviously didn't buy," then yeah, Nintendo's got the legal right to smack you upside the head.
That makes a whole lot more sense now, sorta. I guess if you walk around saying "I have a ROM of a game I obviously didn't buy," then yeah, Nintendo's got the legal right to smack you upside the head.
@tjk176
never going to happen.
People, and the gaming media suck up to them so much, they think they're infallible. Case in point was how surprising it was that Metroid Other M isn't universally acclaimed.
When was the last time that happened for a 1st Party Nintendo game?
never going to happen.
People, and the gaming media suck up to them so much, they think they're infallible. Case in point was how surprising it was that Metroid Other M isn't universally acclaimed.
When was the last time that happened for a 1st Party Nintendo game?
Both sites have used the ROM of the game to source some of their material (Pokebeach admitted as much). There are plenty of other fansites, as large or larger, sites (such as Bulbapedia, etc) with material (publically released) from the game that have receieved no such letter.
This is a very typical C+D letter in this sort of situation. It's like Miyamoto and Iwata personally wrote and delivered this. Someone spotted the infringement, notified Nintendo who notified their lawyers and some junior clerk punted out the companies bog standard C+D letter.
Nintendo are well within their rights to prevent a site openly soliciting piracy with material sourced from illegal copies of the game from displaying said content.
Complete non-story written in sensationalist nonsense manner akin to UK tabloid press.
This is a very typical C+D letter in this sort of situation. It's like Miyamoto and Iwata personally wrote and delivered this. Someone spotted the infringement, notified Nintendo who notified their lawyers and some junior clerk punted out the companies bog standard C+D letter.
Nintendo are well within their rights to prevent a site openly soliciting piracy with material sourced from illegal copies of the game from displaying said content.
Complete non-story written in sensationalist nonsense manner akin to UK tabloid press.
@Marcus Maximillion That's what it boils down to they screwed up and are trying to make it seem like they're being bullied when in reality only one combany has been sued by nintendo and that was beckett pkmn for the fact that they profiting off of the photos
So yeah, they used a ROM. I tried pointing that out to the Poke(r)beach forums, and I was banned and my post deleted pretty quickly. Nintendo is fully in the right to take the actions they did.
If it helps your sales, then it shouldn't be a problem.
But this is Nintendo, and the "Seal Of Quality" disappeared for a reason.
But this is Nintendo, and the "Seal Of Quality" disappeared for a reason.
Jesus, how stupid can you get.
Sites like Serebii are HYPING THE GAME FOR YOU NINTENDO. Considering they do jack all to make the franchise all that interesting themselves (and I've been into the games since the beginning) you'd think they would show some appreciation.
How exactly are they sites violating Nintendo's rights exactly? When all they are doing is passing on information that has ALREADY BEEN RELEASED in Japan.
Do something useful Nintendo, localize the awesome looking Xenoblade for me.
Sites like Serebii are HYPING THE GAME FOR YOU NINTENDO. Considering they do jack all to make the franchise all that interesting themselves (and I've been into the games since the beginning) you'd think they would show some appreciation.
How exactly are they sites violating Nintendo's rights exactly? When all they are doing is passing on information that has ALREADY BEEN RELEASED in Japan.
Do something useful Nintendo, localize the awesome looking Xenoblade for me.
I read the title as "Nintendo threatens pokemon FRANCHISE with closure". you know, the series hasn't really evolved (dohoho) very much throughout the years, i think i'd be ok with it if they ended it after this one, despite my love for the games.
I love Nintendo, but god damn this is bad. Like Square Enix bad. And this contradicts a report I read that Nintendo doesn't do this sort of thing because as long as the content in question wasn't pornographic or inappropriate, it was ok.
I know Nintendo is famous for going their own way, but this is pretty stupid. Shame on you Nintendo.
I know Nintendo is famous for going their own way, but this is pretty stupid. Shame on you Nintendo.
I don't really see why people fault Nintendo so much for this. Granted, it doesn't seem like they do this often and it isn't 'nice'.
But law is not about being 'nice', law is about being 'allowed'.
You could indeed make a very good point about this being copyright infringement that may or may not hurt Nintendo's sales. As such, Nintendo has the right to do something against that, and they just chose to do so in this situation.
Besides, nothing happended, right? Nintendo wanted the pictures off those sites, a C&D was sent and the pictures are down now.
But law is not about being 'nice', law is about being 'allowed'.
You could indeed make a very good point about this being copyright infringement that may or may not hurt Nintendo's sales. As such, Nintendo has the right to do something against that, and they just chose to do so in this situation.
Besides, nothing happended, right? Nintendo wanted the pictures off those sites, a C&D was sent and the pictures are down now.
You know when Harmonix' shit got leaked they made it awesome.
That's how you handle a leak Nintendo. Use it for free publicity.
That's how you handle a leak Nintendo. Use it for free publicity.
PS. If it's indeed true that they only targeted those who got the images from ROMS, then my first point: that it's not 'nice' falls flat as well.
This is what i don't get, Yeah they used ROM's to get the images and that's bad and all... but taking the down the images doesn't excatly strip Serrbi and Pokebeach of the ROM? Or discorage other people from downloading it
I mean the ROM situation isn't solved, so it realy does look like Nintendo is bullying... infact i'm still deabting weather or not they are, If this was about ROM's i'd like to think it would be mentioned
I mean the ROM situation isn't solved, so it realy does look like Nintendo is bullying... infact i'm still deabting weather or not they are, If this was about ROM's i'd like to think it would be mentioned
Its True the C&D letters supposedly arrived after both sites complained about not gaining exp which is the new ap on the games along with the freezing from HG/SS
So let's get this straight.
They send a C&D against a website that may or may not have used a ROM to get an image, and though they are not distributing this ROM, and are causing more HELP to Nintendo than damage in any way, are still in the wrong here?
I don't quite understand. It's not like Nintendo stand to lose ANYTHING from this, whatsoever. And why they chased up the site instead of the person who possibly downloaded the ROM is beyond me.
They send a C&D against a website that may or may not have used a ROM to get an image, and though they are not distributing this ROM, and are causing more HELP to Nintendo than damage in any way, are still in the wrong here?
I don't quite understand. It's not like Nintendo stand to lose ANYTHING from this, whatsoever. And why they chased up the site instead of the person who possibly downloaded the ROM is beyond me.
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