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Nintendo: Sorry we called you all geeks and otaku photo

Laurent Fischer, the European Nintendo boss who claimed that only "geeks and otaku" want additional storage for their Wiis, has apologized for the comment, stating that he in no way meant to insult anybody.

"I have huge respect for those who, like me, share a common passion for Nintendo and want to make it clear that I would never use and I didn't use this terminology in such a context or way to cause offense," claimed Fischer. "I regret that this misunderstanding has created such offense and disappointment within the community."

Though an apology has been made, I think it'll be a while before anybody forgets the rather inflammatory comment that offended a fair few gamers, as well as outspoken developer David Jaffe, who accused Fischer of either arrogance or stupidity regarding the statement. What about you guys? Is all forgiven? Did you even care in the first place? Or is this a grievous crime, the likes of which shall only be recompensed for in Hell?








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EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 07:25
EternalDeathSlayer
Personally I think it was an offensive statement, but this is just one man, not an entire company.

With that said, I do in fact believe that what he is saying is indicative of the thoughts of Nintendo as a whole.

As I've said in numerous comments about this subject, this shit won't happen. Nintendo doesn't cater to it's loyal fanbase, it caters to whoever it's biggest potential audience is. And who can blame them? This is a business.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 07:32
Aaron Mxy Yost
I just like it when executives say stupid things that rile up fans on the internet. So my suggestion is for him to keep up the good work.

Also, am I the only person who pictures this guy as Morpheus (or Cowboy Curtis) due to his name?
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 07:35
EternalDeathSlayer
Cowboy Curtis FTW
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 07:36
BluDesign
If Nintendo wanted to make this right, they could actually, you know, support external storage. They don't realize that all they have to do is support flash drives. That's probably enough honestly. Just support flash drives.
Burnt Meatloaf's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 07:40
Burnt Meatloaf
I wonder what would have happened if some manager at Sony or Microsoft had made such a statement.

Aside from Nintendo fanboys having a field day, the Sony/MS communities probably would have taken it as a compliment.
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 07:46
wardrox
As it was just a passing comment, taken out of context and blown up out of proportion buy the blogocube, I accept this guys apology.
Tamz's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 07:50
Tamz
I didn't take offense to it, It did serve as a representation of Nintendo's approach with the Wii, not catering to the 'geeks' and 'otaku's' could be their downfall, clearly gamers want a hard drive, if they're choosing to ignore the demand gamers that haven't pledged their soul to Nintendo will take their business elsewhere. Then again Nintendo probably wouldn't care if that happened since the 'casual' market will continue to provide the paper they print their money on.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 07:56
EternalDeathSlayer
The problem isn't that we want a hard drive and they won't allow it, the problem is that clearly not enough gamers want a HDD. For this to be worth it to Nintendo, they would need assurance of a high sell through.

Do they honestly have that? I doubt I'd spend even 50 bucks for storage on the Wii. It's not even worth the extra money.

Of course, dvd is right. Flash drive support would be fine...
yairagat's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 08:02
yairagat
I see what you did there. A TACO.
Clance's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 08:11
Clance
What is all the fuss about???? Are we all geeks anyway? So, wasn't he right?

Great work on the pun... Man, are Tacos that big? I wanna go and eat tacos with Blink 182.
Quest's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 08:33
Quest
anyway th guy is an idiot ... i don't care about idiots
BigKev's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 08:38
BigKev
I take this as more of a reprentation of Nintendo of Europe and how shitty they are at pleasing there customers than of anything indicative of the whole country.

NOE are knob-jockeys.
sbshootme's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 08:41
sbshootme
greeks and... a taco.

well done.
SWE3tMadness's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 08:46
SWE3tMadness
The issues's not over with though. The fact is, Nintendo needs to release extra storage for the Wii. Even though they've apologized for blowing off that suggestion, the problem's still there and no amount of name-calling and subsequent apologetic backpedaling will fix it.
lubczyk's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 08:49
lubczyk
Spending $400 on a new 40 GB PS3 doesn't seem like a bad deal compared to the Wii, when you factor in things like Hard Drives and WLAN.

Wii owners can brag all they want on how the Wii is cheaper than the 360/PS3, yet they stay silent when it is mentioned that both Sony and Microsoft consoles support Hard Drives and Voice Chat.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 08:53
EternalDeathSlayer
@ SWE3tMadness: There is no need, obviously.

Take a look at Dale North's NPD Sales Data post. It was posted yesterday.

The Wii and DS are number 1.

Why bother wasting time and resources on something you clearly don't need? You've sold 10 million consoles in the U.S. without a solid storage solution. Is there really a need?
Wiid Whacker's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 09:05
Wiid Whacker
Yeah, those Greeks and mexican food are always complaining about something :P
Bob Arctor's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 09:12
Bob Arctor
That dude works in a geek industry so why would he offend the people that buy his products.
I accept his apology cause the industry have more offensive people to worry about like fox news and Jack Thompson
Chris Morris's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 09:21
Chris Morris
I could care less that he used the statement. People need to stop getting butt hurt over the smallest things. His statement is pretty much true, anyway. It's going to be us who need additional storage for VC titles and the like. Most of the Wii playing population is only ever going to need storage for Wii game save data and 512mb is plenty for that.
Alexradl's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 09:29
Alexradl
That's interesting. They listen to us (the "gamers") when we dispute something that was said, but they don't listen to us when we have complaints (or suggestions for) about their console.
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 09:30
Cheeburga
Oh Jim, you silly man.
CaptainApocalypse's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 09:47
CaptainApocalypse
Eternal damnation would be a pretty sweet punishment for calling us, arguably their strongest and oldest market demographic, names.
deiga-the-semivaliant's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 09:48
deiga-the-semivaliant
A Taco cracked me up. Good show, my boy.

To be honest, while I thought the man is a bonehead, I have to agree with EDS. If they're doing just fine without storage, why would they need to add it? It would just add unnecessary risk.
Rockvillian's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 09:53
Rockvillian
Isn't everyone living under Nintendo Europe's iron fist already angry?

I don't really understand the crisis here, for he seems to be merely validating why you guys get the shaft so much, sadly by ways of a slip in judgement. This is more of a revelation!
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 09:55
Eschatos
How about they apologize by actually following through with what we "geeks and otaku" want.
Rockvillian's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 10:03
Rockvillian
@Eschatos

Thank you!
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 10:17
MechaMonkey


AMIDOINGITRITE?
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 10:19
Brian Szabelski
When they release a damn HDD, all is forgiven. Until then, no.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 10:28
ParaParaKing
OK, sorry I called Nintendo of Europe fucktards and assholes.
VisMortua's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 10:45
VisMortua
Nothing like a grandiose interpretation of idiocy represented by a Greek man fisting... yes I noticed, Fisting a Taco.
Brahms's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 10:51
Brahms
I wasn't sure if he was fisting the taco, or ripping its taco gizzards out for taco soup. *squint*

No, no. He's fisting that taco.
deanhatescoffee's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 10:52
deanhatescoffee
Did anybody really case about this? We ARE geeks. We DO care. So, by him saying that only geeks care... that's a fair assessment, right? Maybe it's not true that "only" geeks care, but geeks do care so I don't see the real problem with this statement (other than it sucks that we don't have an option for external memory).
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 11:01
Cowboy TTop
I'm with Sweet, Wii does need a hard drive. And while Nintendo may be rolling in casual gamers money, they easily forget, that many of us gamers stuck it out with GC, til the end. Such loyalty needs to be repaid.

This chap is apologising and that's cool, but he's probably been told too. Indeed, reading between his prior lines, its clear that what he said, more than likely has some grounding with NoJ's thinking.

So what they are saying is because the casuals are clueless about their Wii's technical problems, that makes them okay to ignore. Sorry, Nintendo but its you who are wrong. Just because you are in the monies and popularity, doesn't make you right.

If you are going to abandone hardcore gamers, this attitude you have pretty much puts the nail in the coffin, that you don't care anymore.

Choose your battles carefully, Nintendo.
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 11:03
Phoenix Gamma
I don't care about NoE. I'm not from Europe, and even if I was, NoE clearly doesn't want money, since they can't be assed to release games in a timely manner and laugh at you when you buy their shit anyways. Nope, I love my NoA way more. They pander to me, and I'm a sucker for pandering.

Anyways, my point being that NoE has never been "with it", and the statement reflects that. I'll accept his apology, but they need to smarten up.
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 11:08
Phoenix Gamma
Oh, I forgot to ask:

If he didn't mean to use it in a derogatory way, what DID he mean when he said "Only geeks and otaku want a harddrive for the Wii"? Even if you change the words, it still sounds like a "fuck you" to me.
Chocobo Knight's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 11:16
Chocobo Knight
The question should be: What doesn't make David Jaffe inflammatory?
JonDarkwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 11:23
JonDarkwood
Even if it's one man, somebody has to represent the company, so it might as well be, I don't know, the people running it? maybe.
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 11:37
Excel-2011
I don't think anything of this because I know no one there really meant it.
arminies's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 11:57
arminies
ehh Nintendo.... i prefer Sony/MS
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 12:05
Qraze
this guy needs to remember which side his toast has been buttered on ~jaffe=awesome comment. and if i had a wii, i know i would encounter this problem a while ago. hell my 60 gig ps3 has literally 12 gigs left now that i erased the skate install data (3.2 gigs) oblivion is still the beast at 5.3 gigs.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 12:13
Qraze
he's a fncking yes man anyway who don't know shit. geeks and otaku's are the reason nintendo is still in business,if they can't cater to everyone and cover all the bases like sony and ms do, they can go back to making playing cards like they did a hundred years ago. (look it up) but i respect nintendo due to the achievements they've made for video games and this guy would have been fired on that day he said it if it were up to me.
TheBrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 12:30
TheBrain
Why would I be offended by being accurately labeled a geek?
asator's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 12:42
asator
i think Laurent Fischer got a angry phonecall from japan.
UglyDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 12:55
UglyDuck
The internet doesn't remember anything after a week. Next week, we'll be talking about how generic TV douche thinks games are toys for babies.
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 14:00
mrplow8
I'm not offended by the fact that he used the terms geeks and otaku to describe people who want more memory on their Wiis. I'm more offended by the fact that he pretty much said he couldn't care less what those people think.

What he basically said was that only a specific group of people want more memory on their Wiis, and that those peoples' opinions don't matter. This seems to be Nintendo's new motto these days. They focus on the soccer moms and old people that they're making money off of right now, and completely ignore the loyal Nintendo fans who made Nintendo what it is today.
FuriousGeorge's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 14:04
FuriousGeorge
what did you expect, its nintendo EUROPE.... those fuckers are always getting shafted..... hey did you all get brawl yet?
Rifter01's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 14:05
Rifter01
I'm with ^ uglyPhil mostly.. But, future advice for any Nin PR: A) Don't blame your customers for your own shortsightedness B) Don't complain the kitchen is too hot, if you can't take the heat GTFO. C) Make some 'expert ZOMG they want MOAR' peripherals available on-line only if it would cost too much to make available in the Brick/Mortar/Retail Marketplace...or D) Make SD Card reader faster/actually useful. That is all.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 14:06
John B
The amazing thing is that we want external storage so that the Wii can be more ON PAR with the other consoles with respect downloadable content! It's not that we want extra storage just for teh sake of extra storage. We want extra storage to give us things like DLC in order to enhance our gaming experience, not to make the Wii into a media center.

So, what this asshole has done is say what we're either geeks or otaku for trying to many the Wii better than it is! How the hell am I supposed to forgive him for that?
Sir Unimaginative's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/14/2008 14:35
Sir Unimaginative
I'll gladly forgive him. ... When we get either run-off-flash ability or an addon HDD.

I'll concede that I'm a geek but I don't take being called an otaku lightly.
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