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"linked to it in the past"
IIIIIIIII see what you did there.
Also, sh*t that sucks. I've been meaning to watch this. Eh, it's probably somewhere on the internets.
IIIIIIIII see what you did there.
Also, sh*t that sucks. I've been meaning to watch this. Eh, it's probably somewhere on the internets.
What assholes. They weren't making ANY money off of it, and there is absolutely NO reason for Nintendo to want it pulled.
I feel it is now my moral duty to download this movie and redistribute it in as many places as possible.
I feel it is now my moral duty to download this movie and redistribute it in as many places as possible.
"linked to it in the past"
I hope that was unintentional, but it probably wasn't. I laughed either way.
I hope that was unintentional, but it probably wasn't. I laughed either way.
Is it wrong that I worry about fangames now? Nintendo used to be pretty solid on letting people do fanwork undisturbed, but there are bad times ahead for gamers if they crack down on them like Square did...
Why didn't they just up a disclaimer about none of the characters being representative of any real characters that may or may not exist fictionally or in reality or did the poor bastards not have the money to defend themselves.
Well that's kinda mean of Nintendo. But...i must say it's for the better because that "movie" was AWFUL!
Well... it sounds like it was all very civil. They knew the risks when they made the project with a protected trademark, yet Nintendo let them keep it up for awhile before pulling it after most fans likely saw the work.
win-win
win-win
I'm with Phantomile on half of this. On one hand, that's a huge dick move. But where I disagree is that nobody should see this movie. x:
Maybe Nintendo was being altruistic? I hope. I don't want them to start pulling RIAA stuff.
Maybe Nintendo was being altruistic? I hope. I don't want them to start pulling RIAA stuff.
Dang you Nintendo! You do something new every day to prove that you do not appreciate core gamers.
Is Nintendo making a Zelda movie? No? Then why shut down someone who loves the series enough to make one themselves? Sad panda. :-(
Is Nintendo making a Zelda movie? No? Then why shut down someone who loves the series enough to make one themselves? Sad panda. :-(
Well, yes, the movie was absolutely horrible.
I'm just angry at the principle of it, and the now apparent risk for any fan-made Nintendo games. I don't want to see that amazing Metroid 2 remake getting canceled before it's finished.
I'm just angry at the principle of it, and the now apparent risk for any fan-made Nintendo games. I don't want to see that amazing Metroid 2 remake getting canceled before it's finished.
You know what i'm worried about... that nintendo's next target will be "There Will be brawl" (which just released it's final epsiode today btw... and it was awesome)
You know what i'm worried about... that nintendo's next target will be "There Will be brawl" (which just released it's final episode today btw... and it was awesome)
@Phantomile - Yes the principle is important. But if this was loved it wouldn't go away - Torrent sites can keep things like this active while people like Nintendo can't do shit.
However I wonder if Nintendo would've made them take it down if it didn't make Link and ever other beloved Zelda character look retarded. Seriously, that film sucked. I only watched the first 3 minutes or so and I was already so embarrassed I couldn't watch any more.
However I wonder if Nintendo would've made them take it down if it didn't make Link and ever other beloved Zelda character look retarded. Seriously, that film sucked. I only watched the first 3 minutes or so and I was already so embarrassed I couldn't watch any more.
It wasn't casual enough. There needed to be more singing animals. They should have added a grumpy yet lovable sidekick too.
In the mean time about a hundred oter Zelda fan films are in production and a thousand pieces of fan fiction are being written.
Just because this one was hyped they chose to shut it down? I suppose they have the right to but that is still ridiculous.
Just because this one was hyped they chose to shut it down? I suppose they have the right to but that is still ridiculous.
That film was awful. It provided a mild entertainment for my room mate and I, as we dubbed over the dialogue and pointed out the horrible stuff.
Some of you people don't understand how the world works. Companies have to protect their properties.
Also, thank goodness. I don't understand how anyone could sit through that. I made it through 20 minutes. I was afraid I'd develop a tumor.
Also, thank goodness. I don't understand how anyone could sit through that. I made it through 20 minutes. I was afraid I'd develop a tumor.
@vexed alex
Protect them from what?
How is a fan-movie that makes no claim of ownership of the characters and does not seek anykind of profit, pose a danger to their properties?
hell this movie is no different than fan art
Protect them from what?
How is a fan-movie that makes no claim of ownership of the characters and does not seek anykind of profit, pose a danger to their properties?
hell this movie is no different than fan art
Man, that is no doubt the worst movie I have ever seen. Having no budget isn't an excuse for a terrible movie.
Having good writing, editing, and shot structure are free.
Having good writing, editing, and shot structure are free.
Well now's the time to make a copy, and bring the Barbara Streisand effect into play ehh? That'll teach those blood sucking leeches, erm lawyers
Sort of a dick move on Nintendo's part, but if I owned a game and someone made a really god-awful fan movie about it, I'd probably want to shut it down too.
I mean holy shit, I wasn't expecting it to be on par with LOTR or anything, but it was just... ugh. I was sort of hoping it was intentionally bad.
I mean holy shit, I wasn't expecting it to be on par with LOTR or anything, but it was just... ugh. I was sort of hoping it was intentionally bad.
It took me about 10 minutes to figure out that watching the rest would be more of a waste of time than just about anything else I could be doing. I do mean anything.
It is so bad that it reflects negatively on the franchise, which is probably why Nintendo wanted it pulled. Just imagine if it was the first exposure a kid had to Zelda. It would take therapy to get that kid to play one of the games.
It is so bad that it reflects negatively on the franchise, which is probably why Nintendo wanted it pulled. Just imagine if it was the first exposure a kid had to Zelda. It would take therapy to get that kid to play one of the games.
From my understanding, if you don't protect your copyrights (i.e. go after people who are using it without your express permission) you lose them, probably through precedent "I don't see why they would go after my Zelda game released on PS3 - when they are plainly leaving these Zelda games who also didn't have permissions up and running"
That sorta crap.
That sorta crap.
i can't think of any legal right they have to make them take it down. its a fan movie. its like if i were to go outside with my digital camera and film me cosplaying link. they have no ownership over that. i can do what i want with it. i can give it out to anyone i want to.
THIS IS WRONG
THIS IS WRONG
They should have held their ground. They probably got a CDA in the mail and got scared, so they took it down. What a lot of people don't realize though is that CDAs have no real legal weight, and are nothing more than a fancy playground threat. In this case Nintendo clearly did not have a case against them, so if they stood their ground Nintendo would not have taken them to court.
Yeah it is mean. But this is an unofficial fan interpretation of the Zelda series and is achieving enough distribution and recognition that it could alter the way gamers conciously or subconciously percieve the Zelda series.
Say I put up a piece of fanart of Link having sex with a goron on deviantart. No problem there. Say I get that piece of fanart published in a magazine, distributed all over the interweb and displayed in public galleries. It achieves a high level of recognition and becomes associated with the Zelda series. It may lead gamers to think of Link fucking a goron, when the next Zelda is announced. Nintendo does not want people to think of Link fucking a goron, they would ask me to stop distributing the piece of artwork. And Nintendo does not want people to think of an unofficial fan movie either.
Say I put up a piece of fanart of Link having sex with a goron on deviantart. No problem there. Say I get that piece of fanart published in a magazine, distributed all over the interweb and displayed in public galleries. It achieves a high level of recognition and becomes associated with the Zelda series. It may lead gamers to think of Link fucking a goron, when the next Zelda is announced. Nintendo does not want people to think of Link fucking a goron, they would ask me to stop distributing the piece of artwork. And Nintendo does not want people to think of an unofficial fan movie either.
Movie was trash. No, it wasn't trash, it was the stuff that comes out from between your teeth when you use a toothpick.
Thank God Nintendo had them pull it. As an editor and director myself for low budget videos I was appalled to see such destruction of a good set of characters.
Good residence to bad rubbish.
Thank God Nintendo had them pull it. As an editor and director myself for low budget videos I was appalled to see such destruction of a good set of characters.
Good residence to bad rubbish.
@Mabui
That's why a good line to draw is at the profit line... Really, striking down this movie would be like striking down every piece of fanart on Deviantart... might aswell strike down pretty much every zelda flash parody ever made while your at it too
There is such a thing as "fair-use". It illustrates the limits to which we are allowed to use copyrighted material before we are in violation of said copyright. I think Non-profit fan-made endeavors such as this pretty clearly would fall into that... It's true that "noncomercial does not automatically mean fair-use", but the only exception i have found to this is in the case where the work made provided for free what people would normally have to pay to see (which i do think would exclude this movie)
That's why a good line to draw is at the profit line... Really, striking down this movie would be like striking down every piece of fanart on Deviantart... might aswell strike down pretty much every zelda flash parody ever made while your at it too
There is such a thing as "fair-use". It illustrates the limits to which we are allowed to use copyrighted material before we are in violation of said copyright. I think Non-profit fan-made endeavors such as this pretty clearly would fall into that... It's true that "noncomercial does not automatically mean fair-use", but the only exception i have found to this is in the case where the work made provided for free what people would normally have to pay to see (which i do think would exclude this movie)
I got confused emotions about this.
On one hand, GOD IT WAS SO GOD AWFUL, but it was hilarious haha.
On the other one, itīs so much dickery they shutted down a ton of work from the fans that spent years doing this. Sort of reminds me of Chrono Ressurection.
On one hand, GOD IT WAS SO GOD AWFUL, but it was hilarious haha.
On the other one, itīs so much dickery they shutted down a ton of work from the fans that spent years doing this. Sort of reminds me of Chrono Ressurection.
So when is Nintendo going to start taking action against all that Zelda stuff on Newgrounds and other fan projects? It's not like these guys are making money off of it or anything. Why do you have to be like that, Nintendo?
Because just because they're making it for free now doesn't mean they might not squeeze at bit of profit out of it after it's initial release and sell it on DVD like alot of Webseries have done.
Nintendo are making an example to discourage people making money off their backs. The fact these guys weren't making money (yet) is irrelevant to the point they're making.
Nintendo are making an example to discourage people making money off their backs. The fact these guys weren't making money (yet) is irrelevant to the point they're making.
@Aurain
But they're not making money what is the point? We're gonna stop this one tiny fragment of the Zelda fan fiction community on the basis that it just possibly, but probably not, but just might make some money?
M'kay.
But they're not making money what is the point? We're gonna stop this one tiny fragment of the Zelda fan fiction community on the basis that it just possibly, but probably not, but just might make some money?
M'kay.
It's a really really terrible film. Nintendo probably just wanted to protect their franchise from something so damn awful.
It's lame (not as lame as the film itself of course) that the movie got shut down, but Nintendo has every right to protect their intellectual property.
Nintendo doesn't hate fanworks, on their forum (which they retired to focus on software development) they actually had special boards just for fanart and fanfics. Nintendo even showed footage of people's web published Nintendo (Mario, Pokemon, Exc.) skits at E3 07 and 08 to demonstrate the penetration of Nintendo into mainstream awareness.
Heck, I even met Miyamoto and Reggie (the latter of whom I met twice) wearing a home crocheted hat of Ezlo from Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap which they thought was awesome.
Unfortunately, Nintendo also has to be aware that they need to demonstrate that they are willing to protect their trademarks and copyrights when overly ambitious fanworks or unlicensed imitations step into what Nintendo views as their exclusive domain, and that basically includes video and computer games using Nintendo's IPs without permission (Nintendo is a game company after all), and in this case feature length fan films that aren't any good to begin with and may impact the public's perception of Nintendo's games and franchises.
I really dislike litigation and legal threats and stuff like that, but I can't blame Nintendo for not wanting their hard work associated with this half hearted mockery. Aside, it will always be available via torrent.
Nintendo doesn't hate fanworks, on their forum (which they retired to focus on software development) they actually had special boards just for fanart and fanfics. Nintendo even showed footage of people's web published Nintendo (Mario, Pokemon, Exc.) skits at E3 07 and 08 to demonstrate the penetration of Nintendo into mainstream awareness.
Heck, I even met Miyamoto and Reggie (the latter of whom I met twice) wearing a home crocheted hat of Ezlo from Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap which they thought was awesome.
Unfortunately, Nintendo also has to be aware that they need to demonstrate that they are willing to protect their trademarks and copyrights when overly ambitious fanworks or unlicensed imitations step into what Nintendo views as their exclusive domain, and that basically includes video and computer games using Nintendo's IPs without permission (Nintendo is a game company after all), and in this case feature length fan films that aren't any good to begin with and may impact the public's perception of Nintendo's games and franchises.
I really dislike litigation and legal threats and stuff like that, but I can't blame Nintendo for not wanting their hard work associated with this half hearted mockery. Aside, it will always be available via torrent.
Why so much hate on the film? As far as fanmade Zelda movies/works go I'm sure none of you could do half as good as these people did. I just finished watching it and I'm kind of impressed. I found it to be very entertaining for what it is; a fanmade Zelda flick. Nintendo has to do what they have to do but I'm glad that I got to watch this movie, I thought it was great. :)
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