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Nintendo says 3DS second circle pad peripheral is real photo

Nintendo has confirmed that the nubby nub-nub featured in magazine scans this week is a real thing, and that it will indeed be selling a glorified patch for the 3DS by way of a new controller add-on. The company also seems to make it clear that this won't just a Japanese release.

"We can confirm that Nintendo plans to release the Circle Pad attachment, but Nintendo's regional subsidiaries will make further announcements about its availability at a later date," said the publisher.

In Japan, the peripheral will be released to coincide with a new Monster Hunter game. As is often the way with Nintendo peripherals, I fully expect it to be released for that one game, then have maybe two other games take advantage of it before everybody realizes they just wasted their money on another shitty add-on that nobody's supporting. Could be wrong, but history seems to indicate that particular course.

Wii MotionPlus and Wii Speak say hello, by the way.

Nintendo officially confirms 3DS circle pad add-on [Kotaku]








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Namodacranks's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:06
Namodacranks
Why do those windows not have curtains?
jediyoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:06
jediyoshi
It's spelled 'vitality sensor'.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:07
KingSigy
Nintendo has been doing this for years. Remember the expansion pak for 64? How many games used that, 5?
tirkaro's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:12
tirkaro
Haters gon hate.

Like it or not, it's clear this peripheral was meant for Monster Hunter (Where a 2nd analog would pretty much be a necessity for players as hardcore as the MH fanbase, lest we be exposed to the wrath of the reverse claw), if you don't like Monster Hunter, then this has nothing to do with you. It's not like anyone was complaining about MH3's Classic Controller redesign anyway.
(Also, this better mean that Crapcom is releasing MH3G in the states.)
tuoman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:18
tuoman
There's nubbing wrong with this. I don't see why it's nubbing people the wrong way. NUB.
Eternal's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:20
Eternal
Monster Hunter has had several extremely successful releases on the PSP which only has 1 nub (and that nub is even more "nubby" than the 3DS circle pad nub which is at least somewhat usable as an actual analog stick.)

Not that it matters either way, the 3DS addon looks ugly, and places the ABXY buttons in an unergonomic position far from the thumb.

I full expect to see a 3DSLite within a year that includes the 2nd circle pad in a much more ergonomic and logical placement.

Pretty glad I've held off on the 3DS and plan to do so with the Vita. As it is I still got PA-LENTY of games to play for my DS and PSP. Not to mention having my PSP softmodded means I can load up any classic PS1 game making the library crazy huge.
Lord Kolekovishin's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:21
Lord Kolekovishin
Yeah, I'm not too worried about being left behind without this, since I am using that Nyko powerpack. Monster hunter technically was never my cup of tea anyways.

But if a game I'm very interest in that uses this does come along I might have to get one.
Franky Wid's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:21
Franky Wid
everything Nintendo has a upgrade why are people makin such a big deal over it?
WREturns's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:22
WREturns
Either Jim Sterling is the greatest satirist of this or any age, or he's really just the angry video game nerd stereotype come to life. Only time will tell ...
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:24
Scuffles
So.... the price drop warranted some free roms....

What is the big N going to offer all the early adopters who will in short order find out that they also got shafted out of the second analog stick that is coming on the 3DS(i/lite/whatever) ?
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:26
Hasney
The re-design will have this stick as standard, it's much more useful than just for Monster Hunter.

All they've done is made me delay re-buying a 3DS.
wickedsickzombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:27
wickedsickzombie
Face it, the only kind of games that really need a 2nd analog stick are FPS, and those suck on handhelds anyway!
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:27
Hasney
Wait, I've just re-read the title.

Did a 3DS confirm one to you in an acid trip?
Isay Isay's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:29
Isay Isay
@tuoman

I don't get all the hubnub either. Nubody is forcing this as the standard quite yet
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:30
Bakewell
How can people say this isn't a big deal?

Comparing it to the n64 expansion pack is stupid. That improved the graphics, it wasn't a necessity or something important like, say, a revision to the control scheme.

I don't understand why people are being so forgiving of Nintendo for this. Its not like the 3ds has anymore than 5 good games out for it after 6 months on the market so that can't be the forgiving factor.
thomas1980's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:31
thomas1980
While I totally agree with Jim about shitty Nintendo ad-ons that are never supported, wasn't it Jim who said we cannot judge what is going to happen based on what happened in the past?

Did Jim not mock people for thinking this way?
ManWithNoName's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:32
ManWithNoName
@wickedsickzombie: Oh, your completely right. Only FPS. And games like Uncharted and Tomb Raider. And Resident Evil. And Devil May Cry-like games. And action-RPGs. And Normal RPGs. And JRPGs. And racing games. And basically every game that is not a 2D platformer. You are so right.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:32
Chris Carter
I agree that only 1-2 games will use it, but honestly, those 1-2 games will probably NEED it, a la Motion Plus in the new Zelda.

So...why not just...not buy it?

I mean, I'm cool with my decision of buying the motion plus add-on for $20 at launch, because it will all be worth it when Skyward Sword is out, given how it's my most anticipated game of the year, and it NEEDS it to function. I understand the need for Nintendo to get their shit together, and I totally agree that Motion Plus should have just launched with the Wii itself, but it's not that big of a deal to me if I'm enjoying some badass game on it (ie Zelda, or this new badass Monster Hunter).

Shit Jim, these days, I look at Nintendo consoles themselves as glorified $250 "Zelda and Mario players!" Gotta pay that premium for first party games!
sofik88's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:34
sofik88
it would be nice if mr Sterling stopped trolling for a second and wrote that it's Monster Hunter specific accessory for fans of the franchise simillar to MH-branded classic controller for wii and MH-branded PSP handheld.
not to mention the fact that it probably will be japanese exclusive just like other Monster Hunter related accessories.
Angry Beaver's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:34
Angry Beaver
"before everybody realizes they just wasted their money on another shitty add-on that nobody's supporting" - Thanks for reminding me of the cable to link the GBA with a Gamecube.
Jawmuncher's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:37
Jawmuncher
Like it was said pointless for the nub and a new MH game.

MH worked just fine on PSP.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:38
Chris Carter
@Angry
Four Swords Adventures, and coop Wind Waker play are worth the paltry $10 you spent on that cable.
drakkai's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:39
drakkai
So, les than 6 months on sale and they just realised they made a mistake not including a second stick... But... wait, because the Monster Hunter is called 3G, so... they also realised they needed a 3G connection inside the add-on? If the battery is already shit, does this mean it is going to be shittier? Is there a battery inside the thing? How much is that going to be? Is this part of the ASS programme? Is there anyone thinking in buying the WiiU? Are they going to release the 3DS lite after 5 games?
When I saw the PSP2 with the touchpad at the back I thought "this is pretty stupid". But I was wrong, that was clever compared to this. THIS is the stupidest thing a person, company, animal or chemical element has done in the history of time.
TheGoToGamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:39
TheGoToGamer
@Bakewell
Because its a videogame add-on.
There is way more pressing things in this life than getting your panties in a bunch over anything videogame related. Also if we look at the history of handhelds ridiculous add ons are buisness as usual.
Fr33Kye's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:41
Fr33Kye
Uhmmm how can it be monster hunter specific if it is supposedly launching everywhere, when monster hunter is staying in japan? The rumors also specified a complete redesign and name change. It claimed nintendo was clearing stock of the current model. The likeliness of that increased but it's still very uncertain.
sofik88's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:43
sofik88
my 50+ hours in Tiger Woods games on the wii and dozens of hours spend playing Grand Slam Tennis and Red Steel 2 says you're wrong mr Sterling. especially given the fact that WiiMotion+ is the only way i would play golf and tennis games now.
Angry Beaver's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:44
Angry Beaver
@Magnalon I'm pretty sure I spent more than than back then. But maybe it was worth the wasting of my friend's rupees and the constant distracting him by making him look at Tingle.
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:46
Bakewell
@TheGoToGamer

I'm not saying everybody should be raging but I do think people are ignoring what a shitty move this is because of the promise of Zelda and Mario.
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:46
Hasney
@Jawmuncher

One nub was the reason I never got into playing MH. Good god the claw...
Burdmayn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:47
Burdmayn
Reading through comments, I'm glad to see that some people are on the same boat that I am. This is most likely designed with Monster Hunter in mind, I don't see Nintendo making it mandatory for games. It'll just be the equivalent of the Class Controller on Wii, not necessary to enjoy the game but extremely helpful if you want it. That being said, I'm not entirely sure where all this redesign talk is coming from. I'll believe it if I actually see it but for now I really don't think Nintendo is that stupid.
A redesign would be a clear cut division between two entirely different models, developers wouldn't be down with that. That would mean games would need to be designed with two control schemes, or come packed with the Circle Pad. Either way, that's a good amount of extra money that I doubt Nintendo is willing to spend. How many people at the company just took a pay-cut because the 3DS didn't sell well from the start? They aren't going to screw people over again, keep your pants on people.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:49
Chris Carter
@Angry
Yea, I actually think they were $20 out of the gate - either way, the fun you just described completely sounds like two movie tickets worth of excitement.

Also, I forgot Crystal Chronicles GCN.
Pringao's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:50
Pringao
I am not defending this stupid piece of crap, but, c'mon. I've seen worse. The expansion pack on the N64 was far worse, several games after its release did'nt use the blasted thing and they looked amazing. Look at Banjo Tooie, for crying out loud. It was much worse than this. It was the biggest rip-off ever since the Genessis add-ons.

And, anyways a second nub is really not a big deal, is it really that necessary? What does it do? Move the camera or something? It acts as a cursor? They have a touch-screen, that motion camera thingie and a d-pad, so WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY NEED TO EVEN RELEASE THIS THING? I'm not going to buy this stupid-ass thing unless it comes with the MH game, like I did with the classic controller with the Monster Hunter on the Wii, and like I'm going to do with Wiimotion Plus and Skyward Sword this year. I've owned a wii for three fucking years, and I haven't had a problem for not having a classic controller or a stupid Wii Motion Plus a single time. I've played a total of 26 games just fine. And I think this is going to be exactly the same.

If you loathe this thing as much as I do, probably you just don't own a 3DS or never intend to. And if you happen to own one and hate it just DON'T BUY IT ALONE. YOU'LL BE OKAY WITH YOUR 3DS ANYWAY, LIKE WII HAS BEEN FINE WITHOUT MOTION PLUS, SPEAK, THE ZAPPER OR THAT WII FIT STAND THING. STOP WHINING ALREADY.

Also, Jim, you write two troll posts about this, and you will also make a full Jimquisition about it. Am I right?
sofik88's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:50
sofik88
@Bakewell,
because it was already confirmed as exclusive for Monster Hunter 3DS and mr Sterling keeps trolling for the hits and attention?

Capcom made simillar things with sony, microsoft and nintendo in the past regarding Monster Hunter games.

@Fr33Kye,
mmm, no? it is japan exclusive right now. not to mention the fact that we don't know what it is exactly. all we know it's MH-related accessory, but knowing nintendo it could also work as additional controller for Wii/Wii U.
PEICanada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 08:53
PEICanada7
Its pretty obvious, that a redesign would have the second stick on it, so it will eventually become standard for all games. I can't see them going this route, only to support a couple of games with it. At the very least it will help to get more, or should I say any FPS on the 3DS, because no FPS has been announced for it yet. I bet Activision probably had a big part in persuading Nintendo into doing this for COD, just as much as Capcom did in Japan for Monster Hunter.

People can choose to take this as a bad thing, but I look at it as Nintendo finally listening to its fans. Because if this was the Nintendo of old, they would be so stubborn, that they would of went through this whole generation with only one analog stick on the 3DS. At least now, Nintendo is willing to change. Unlike Sony, who people begged for 6 years, for them to put a second analog nub on the PSP and they refused to listen to their fans, until the next generation. So why complain now, that Nintendo is doing what people want?

Should it have been there from the start? Yes, of course it should of, but in a couple of years, people will look back on the first 3DS, as they do the DS Phat now. They'll just joke about how bad the first version was, but how awesome their 3DS Lite is. At the end of the day, a new 3DS with a second analog stick makes sense in a redesign. They have to have something new to justify a 3DS Lite and what else could they possible do, other than better battery life and bigger screens? That's not enough, to get people to buy a whole new model, but dual stick changes gameplay, so that's something tangible!
Burdmayn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:02
Burdmayn
@PEICanada7
I can't say I agree with you there, between the DSphat up to the XL they never added any buttons, just a camera. I see this as more of something that Capcom wanted for Monster Hunter to give fans an optimal control method, and that other developers can use if they want. You talk about Activision but do you realize they've put nearly every COD game on the DS? They don't care about an optimal control method, it's just there to generate extra sales.
Obviously time will tell what really happens, but I just don't see them dividing the fan-base like that unless said second stick really becomes the standard. Even if they do make that move, I doubt it will be for YEARS to come.
sofik88's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:02
sofik88
@Burdmayn,
Famitsu have huge article about new Monster Hunter and this accessory was show there as dedicated to that game and that game only. scans are online for a while now, but Jim will keep making those articles how this is bad and nintendo haters will keep saying how there's redesign in the works - even if both Capcom and Nintendo released a statement on tv saying that it's MH accessory.
same reason why idiots still claim how 3DS is doomed, has no games etc. when there's fuckload of great upcoming exclusive titles(and quite a lot of already released good games). especially when Vita is in really crappy situation compared to 3DS.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:06
The Silent Protagonist
Man, I'm starting to think people are just looking at excuses to be mad at Nintendo. That and they've been acting like spoiled children for the last six months of 3DS's release. I've had plenty of reasons to use mine and within the next few weeks there are honestly more games I want for it than my wallet is comfortable with buying.

Its been rather well known based on the PSP that "the claw" was a kind of a painful aspect of the gameplay to Monster Hunter, partially why some of the US and EU fanbase was happy to get their hands on MH Tri for the Wii.

Capcom wants to get Monster Hunter out on everything and like Dragon Quest in Japan, he who has Monster Hunter gets hardware sold in Japan.

So this is really just Nintendo trying to get in on that. Having Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter on their side isn't really going to hurt them.

So if this really was just for Monster Hunter, I don't see the fuss. If other games use it, that's nice and all but I doubt it will be mandatory. The vast history of peripherals on all platforms (not just Nintendo's) tends to show this to be true.

Wii Motion Plus, Move and Kinect (despite MS and Sony's claims to the contrary, where's the fucking support), the PS2 HDD, GBA connectors for Gamecube OH and let's not forget the Power Glove and eReader.

And Steel Battalion.

Worst offender of them all? Plastic Guitars. What are they good for now? No one wants them.
Androu1's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:09
Androu1
@PEICanada7: "Unlike Sony, who people begged for 6 years, for them to put a second analog nub on the PSP and they refused to listen to their fans, until the next generation. So why complain now, that Nintendo is doing what people want?"

Meanwhile, the DS didn't even have a single one up until the fucking 3DS. But oh, they're Nintendo, they're perfect! Fuck that shit.

If they make a second model and make it necessary to either upgrade or get this add-on for a lot of games, people should be all like "fuck Nintendo, never buying the first edition again". I mean, that's what they would say if anybody other than Nintendo did it. But since people just LOVE licking Nintendo's balls they will be all like "AWWWWWW FUCK YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!" instead, right?
Nic128's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:12
Nic128
@Magnalon
Yeah, all the experiences I had with that cable were great.
Stop Spoilers's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:15
Stop Spoilers
Sofik: the attachment is made by nintendo not Capcom. They are just unveiling it with Monster Hunter.
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:18
Scuffles
@Sofik

Yeah because they would just up and admit that the plan the whole time was to make the initial 3DS obsolete by adding the second analog stick to the new revision. If anyone thought the price drop was received poorly I'd be bracing for Hurricane Analog-Nub.

Not saying that it is a sure thing its just extremely probable, at least as probable that it is improbable that Capcom invested in a hardware adapter just so they wouldn't have to write a few more lines of code to use the touch screen....

By no means is the 3DS doomed but it also isn't out of the woods quite yet either.
theswitcher's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:19
theswitcher
It's so depressing when you realize that we're all gonna have to sit through MONTHS of articles just like these, where Jim takes massive shits on a optional peripheral that he's never used.
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:21
Phoenix Gamma
How to improve 3DS hardware and software sales: separate your audience into two groups based on who buys a certain unweidly add-on.
Atemz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:23
Atemz
I dont see how the "It has happened before so it will happen again" argument applies here. Its not like nintendo has had as much trouble before with portable systems as it is having now, the circumstances are completely different. Besides, Im pretty sure a new 3ds model with double pads will show up and we "old" 3ds users will be left with using that crappy add-on. Sigh : /

Oh yeah, and wiimotion plus is still used from time to time. Cant say anything about wiispeak tho, lol.
Frigidevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:25
Frigidevil
Well as long as it comes bundled with Monster Hunter I'm not opposed. It would definitely be useful for Kid Icarus too, fuck aiming with the stylus.
Stop Spoilers's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:31
Stop Spoilers
Nintendo deserves all the shit they get for this because they ignored all the shit that Sony deservingly got for not having a second anlog stick. And the argument that having a second analog stick will only bring more FPS is fucking retarded. Almost any game can benefit from it that a stylus can not provide.
Fr33Kye's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:31
Fr33Kye
Sofik your assumptions are about as valid(or less valid actually) than jim sterling's. Monster hunter has confirmed to be staying in japan but we know nothing of the peripheral except that it is nintendo's. Were you one of the many who said the rumor of it's existence wasn't true in the first place? People dismissed the rumors and were wrong, the likelihood of the other rumors being true has increased.
liddokun's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:49
liddokun
Obviously Activision dosen't care about optimal control method, they release their FPS for platforms without a mouse! Also, a second analog built in would mean just another DS version: tell me honestly Nintendo didn't release like 5 portable consoles in 5 years... Sony did well not including a second analog on the PSP post launch, as that would have meant it was a whole new console.
Keroro's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:58
Keroro
Grab you 3DS, try to hold it imagining you have that second nub, it doesnt seems so uncomfortable to me
deaddays's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/08/2011 09:59
deaddays
The only reason Monster Hunter worked on the PSP is because the D-pad was ABOVE the analog nub. It made the "claw" technique possible. While I was anticipating a MH game for the 3DS, I didn't see how their set-up was going to work, the second nub obviously fixes that.

What's everyone so pissed about anyway? I'll be buying the nub/MH combo pack. Unless they decide not to release MH over here, in which case, yeah, okay, EFF NINTENDO!!!
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