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Nintendo's first paid DLC set for Fire Emblem 3DS photo

Paid DLC is something that Nintendo has never messed with, but that changes next year with Fire Emblem for the 3DS. According to Nikkei, Nintendo will launch its first ever paid downloadable content some time next March. The report says that this DLC, an expansion, will cost "several hundred yen." Expect future DLC to be at a similar price point.

I like that Nintendo is saying that this and future DLC won't make it any easier for gamers to make their way through games, like the cheat crap in Facebook games. That's dirty territory.

Nikkei also says that the Wii U will see paid DLC when it comes out.

Nintendo 3DS Games Getting Paid DLC. Here’s the First Title [Kotaku]








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The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:06
The Silent Protagonist
A game like Fire Emblem is where DLC can really stand to shine above many other Nintendo IPs, provided its a substantial amount of content per expansion. The base Fire Emblem games have a lot of content, too, so let's hope that doesn't change.

Though if Pushmo is a taste of things to come from Intelligent Systems on the downloadable front, I don't think we have much to worry about. Intelligent Systems may actually be the best suited studio for this kind of stuff.
Bealtespip122's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:12
Bealtespip122
"F" yeah! :D This is actually exciting! I'm all up for it as long as Nintendo doesn't pull any of that Capcom crap. You know,with the whole alternate costume crap.
Gee-Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:14
Gee-Man
Initially I was wary, but I realized that if any genre of game can capitalize on good DLC, it's definitely SRPGs. Fire Emblem specifically, has such a wealth of narrative and strong characterization going for it that DLC can only add to it.

Now we just have to see if the new 3DS Fire Emblem actually gets localized in the first place. Considering Nintendo's track record with the DS iterations of Fire Emblem, I'm not going to get my hopes up.
UltorOscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:18
UltorOscariot
Wow Nintendo, welcome to years ago. You're late, but come on in, the party is still going.
mjemirzian's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:21
mjemirzian
"I like that Nintendo is saying that this and future DLC won't make it any easier for gamers to make their way through games, like the cheat crap in Facebook games. That's dirty territory."
Oh yes, they'd never do anything cheap like that in Fire Emblem like Rainbow Potions or Growth Drops in FE DS #2, right? Oh, wait..
Caspulex's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:21
Caspulex
Now how about some free DLC?
TheLupineOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:22
TheLupineOne
Well, that's it. Nintendo are embracing paid DLC. The games industry is finally dead.
mjemirzian's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:23
mjemirzian
However I'll forgive you for your ignorance Dale since FE DS #2 wasn't localized, even though you really should know your shit when talking about import games with no localization announcement.
RockWallofMight359's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:24
RockWallofMight359
@TheLupineOne

How? Nintendo already says they feel strongly about releasing complete games and not forcing people to pay more for the full experience later. Let's wait and see what they do with this BEFORE we flip.

'Sides, DLC for Smash Bros. 4. 'Nuff said, mofo.
Bealtespip122's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:32
Bealtespip122
@RockWallofMight359 My thoughts exactly! :D For the Smash Bros DLC,I mean.
Stealth's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:35
Stealth
100 percent chance this game gets localized. There were circumstances why the last remake didnt
dtomek's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:39
dtomek
Oh for fucks sake. If you think dlc existing makes a game you purchased incomplete, that sentiment will absolutely carry over to nintendo games. I wish people would stop bitching about dlc. "Oh noes, my tv doesn't have a dvd player but it's an option and other people have it. I've been sold an incomplete tv!" "Oh noes my car doesn't have entertainment centers in the headrests but it's an option that some people paid for, I've been sold an incomplete car!" Just pony the cash or shut the fuck up.
Sonic7877's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:43
Sonic7877
lol @ TheLupineOne

I hope Nintendo handles this correctly. Please, no day one DLC, on disc "DLC", skins, expensive map packs, or subscriptions to DLC. Smash Bros. would probably be the only game I purchase DLC for anyway.
Operative20's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:48
Operative20
I trust Nintendo will always provide complete games like they always have all these years, even with DLC options. It's the 3rd party developers that I'm worried about. I can imagine "NEW STORY CHAPTER, PURCHASE FOR $5.99 NOW" for games such as Resident Evil. Or even worse, lock away content on the 3DS cart and sell it as DLC later on. :(
tekbunny's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:48
tekbunny
As long as its a legitimate expac and not some tacked on "extras" or pay-to-unlock-content-that-is-already-on-the-disc bullshit, than at least they are doing it right.
llort het's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:49
llort het
I don't trust ANY company to handle DLC well. Companies aren't your friend, they just want to make money. Eventually Nintendo most likely WILL start nickel and diming us just like Capcom and so many other companies. I guess it had to start happening eventually.
tekbunny's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:51
tekbunny
@dtomek

Oh, how I wish it were that simple.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:51
Daxelman
@mjemirzian: Didn't that use in game currency?
josmeister's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 15:52
josmeister
FIRE EMBLEM IS COMING TO THE 3DS? FUCK YEAH considering I discovered this game two weeks ago, I can't be more excited.
KilvasKills's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 16:11
KilvasKills
Hopefully the DLC is offered as a Nintendo club reward.
GoofierBrute's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 16:13
GoofierBrute
Let's hope the DLC Nintendo offers is more "let's add something new to the core experience" and less "let's charge five dollars for costumes".
Gamers Ballad's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 16:22
Gamers Ballad
I think Nintendo doing dlc now is awesome. I believe they will handle it well and give content worth buying.
OrangeArmy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 16:48
OrangeArmy
I would take this rumor with a grain of salt,mostly because the game is due to be released in April,not March,so unless they are releasing this DLC a month early solely for the benefit of Doctor Who and Doc Brown,it doesn't make sense.

Now,if it happens to be true,then neato,as long as its expansions and not just silly hats for your generals.
TheLupineOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 17:21
TheLupineOne
@llort het do you read the advice of Martin Lewis? Also, now you've got me worrying that Nintendo will introduce online passes...
gamerguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 17:23
gamerguy
And just like that fire emblem for the ds, we will never get this one. But fear not! We will have wiiu music to look forward to and another mario party.
Noaxzl's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 17:29
Noaxzl
Welcome to 2006, Nintendo.

All venom aside, I'm glad that Nintendo's decided to do paid DLC. If anyone can do it right, it'd be these guys. Also, I hope they do paid DLC for Smash Bros 4, because extra characters was something that Brawl was seriously lacking.
Mustachio Jones's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 17:33
Mustachio Jones
The only issue I have with this is that Nintendo still doesn't have a competent online patching system in place, referring here to the whole Skyward Sword fiasco. I'm willing to give them some benefit of the doubt here, as the 3DS is slightly more advanced in the online department over the Wii, but it's still pretty terrible. I'm just worried that paid DLC or DLC at all will stand in lieu of patches.
BalloonFighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 17:44
BalloonFighter
I don't like this at all. Nintendo actually has had free DLC for some DS games like Picross and Mario vs Donkey Kong. Are those days gone forever?
GreenAiden555's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 17:59
GreenAiden555
Everyone saying this is a good thing needs to shut up. Now.

This is nowhere near REMOTELY good. Yay, now Nintendo fans can pay for content that should have been released with the game! Such a good thing!

Bullshit. That's all this is, and if you support, you're a moron. There is not a SINGLE way to defend this view DLC=good. You paid for the game, you should get all the content.

And to that fuckwit posting ""HURR DURR TV HAS NO DVD PLAYER," no, that's wrong. You suck at analogies and should die in a fire.
mjemirzian's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 18:22
mjemirzian
@Daxelman No, the rainbow potion and growth drops were free "cheat" items you could obtain just for connecting the game through wifi. They did make the game significantly easier, especially the rainbow potion. So downloadable "cheat" items already exist in a recent Fire Emblem, the only thing missing from them is the price tag. Of course I wouldn't expect clueless gamers like the Destructoid staff to know what they're talking about, instead giving out ignorant free passes.
Scissors's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 18:34
Scissors
I normally don't like DLC, but if this add versus taking away and making us pay for something then that might be pretty good.
BoomingEchoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 18:40
BoomingEchoes
If the game comes to these shores and those DLC's are more story/battles then yeah, I can totally see me coughing up the dough to see them. Fire Emblem may not be the most universal series Nintendo has (which is where I see the flaw, Nintendo won't see huge numbers every where with this game over something else) but DLC would be the most fitting in this setting.
Scissors's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 19:03
Scissors
Hey Stealth, I'm curious what were those circumstances?
mxporygon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 19:18
mxporygon
i'm ok with this, if this means next FE goes outside Japan
tangyrobot's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 19:26
tangyrobot
Fuck Fire Emblem, I'm fantasizing about Super Smash Bros. 3DS DLC characters.
snake_in_a_box's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 19:28
snake_in_a_box
@mjemirzian
There is a BIG difference between connecting through free wi-fi to get cheat items, and actually paying money for them. Not comparable at all, and I don't see how the former would even lead to the latter if Nintendo has already spoken against it.
MegaSeveN's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 19:41
MegaSeveN
I've always loved the idea behind DLC, I just hate what it has become lately. The idea of playing a complete game and then a little ways down the road picking that game up to experience something new is awesome and exciting. It's too bad then, that online passes, and locked off content have become the norm. Here's hoping Nintendo can stick to their guns and make sure DLC only adds and does not cheapen.
Bruce Watkinson's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 19:42
Bruce Watkinson
@GreenAiden555

I have to agree. It would simply be naive to believe that Nintendo is above the standard practices of "nickel and diming" it's customers.
Sonic7877's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 19:52
Sonic7877
I'm not going to be a blind fanboy and say this is a good thing. I play a lot more games on Nintendo consoles and handhelds than anything else, because they don't have DLC. You get the complete experience right out of the box, paying just one flat fee. I'm worried about this. Not just for Nintendo, but 3rd parties will obviously abuse it.
Ultra Darkly 333's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 19:58
Ultra Darkly 333
Not sure what to say, "hope don't fuck us over!" or "welcome to the frag fest!"
Ronin4life's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 20:13
Ronin4life
@green, bruce
Of course Nintendo isn't above such things, but that itself is also not proof of anything.
What proof we do have of Nintendo good intentions is official statements made against the very nickel and diming you're prematurely accusing them of, which isn't much better tham saying it is a good thing.
Perhaps it is naive to trust, but then it is also jaded and cynical to so completely distrust as well.
Ronin4life's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 20:38
Ronin4life
Wow, that's a lot of typos....
Stupid tablet....
izayashirow's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2011 20:59
izayashirow
Nintendo said that if they were going for the DLC style of business, it would be only huge content based expansions for a low price, so no worries.
mjemirzian's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2011 00:52
mjemirzian
@snake_in_a_box I think it's a lot more close than you think. Fire Emblem is clearly their guinea pig for DLC and the next time a rainbow potion shows up, I'll bet you it'll have a price tag attached to it. If you trust PR these days you're just a sucker IMO.
doomknight66's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2011 01:20
doomknight66
I have faith, nintendo is one of the few gaming companies that LEARN FROM MISTAKES.
gamerguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2011 04:50
gamerguy
@doomknight66: except when it comes to localization's.
REWQ's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2011 08:34
REWQ
I consider this awful, awful news; worst policy change Nintendo has had in recent memory. This is content that they are planning before launch, but decided to release as paid DLC instead. If it were free, I wouldn't be so turned off to this game by this, but it's paid DLC. Basically, Nintendo is admitting that they could release a better game than what's going to be at launch, but instead they'd rather chop up the game and sell the pieces separately. I don't care if this is standard in the industry, it's still bullshit, and until now Nintendo has never jumped this bandwagon.

I'm a huge Nintendo fan, and that's exactly why I'm not going to buy this game (even though I previously was going to). No-paid-DLC-in-first-party-games was one of Nintendo's best policies, and if they start shoving this shit in many other of their games its going to ruin them for me. Paid DLC encourages incomplete game design, and I can't imagine many of their games being nearly as memorable if they had sections taken out to be sold as DLC (and yes, they are being "taken out" because these would otherwise be in the game if it weren't for DLC). Would Ocarina of Time be as memorable if the giant's knife needed to be unlocked for 500 Nintendo points?, or would Kirby be as fun to experiment with if you had to purchase "ability-packs"?

I don't care if the 360, the PS3, PC games, and every smartphone out there have DLC, the lack of it on Nintendo systems was a GOOD thing. I really feel like the people who wanted this on Nintendo platforms didn't play their games on there in the first place.

You know, I haven't been joining in on the Wii U cynicism because honestly most complaints seem overreactive so far ( "OMG it has a resistive screen instead of multi-touch even though it has a full set of buttons?"), but this singular piece of news has made my excitement for it drop like a stone.

@GreenAiden555, Sonic7877
Agreed. I hope the fanboys who try to justify crap like this realize that by not faulting Nintendo when they are wrong encourages the company to act stupidly.
Ronin4life's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2011 09:38
Ronin4life
@rewq
They haven't done anything yet, so what's to fault? You all are jumping to conclusions, which is no better than defending such bad behavior.
@gamerguy
They are getting better, as xenoblade comes out next year.( although I suspect it was always meant to.)
SaburoDaimando's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2011 09:57
SaburoDaimando
DLC is something I want to see in the next Smash Bros game, especially if it features a) new playables b)new stages c) A new adventure mode or d) new music(If its on the cheap)
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