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Yesterday the lovely Dale North posted on the first of an ongoing series of interviews between the current President of Nintendo Japan Saturo Iwata, and his kind of ex-employee and Smash Bros. creative director Masahiro Sakurai. Even for those uninterested in Nintendo or Smash Bros, this read may be appealing to you. It gets down right creepy at times in ways you wouldn't expect.
Sakurai seems like he may be against the "New Nintendo". He makes it a point to say he has rejected Miis as playable characters for Brawl, rejected motion controls for Brawl, and that despite Smash Bros being one of Nintendo's biggest money making franchises, Brawl may be the final game in the series. He takes this semi-anti-Nintendo rant one step further when he says "If I had been at Nintendo, I may have made a Smash Bros Brawl that was more in line with the Wii. As a result, I feel, in some ways, that my decision-making (at Nintendo) wasn’t the very best." Nice one, Masahiro, right in the face. The message is clear, you're Nintendo's whipping boy no more.
Iwata doesn't bat an eye at these blatantly disrespectful remarks. He takes this abuse like a kept woman. Why? My guess is love.
Examples of Iwata's unrequited man crush on Sakurai-Kun after the jump
So Sakurai disses his kind of ex-boss in this latest interview. Big deal, right? Well, it gets better. On the second page, Iwata again starts to gush about how incredible Sakurai is and how much he loves the way he makes games. It's cool to see a boss, or an ex-boss, or whatever Iwata is to Sakurai, say such nice things to his underling. Iwata even calls him "Sakurai-Kun" at one point, which in so many words is the Japanese way of saying "Sakurai, my beloved little buddy." Again, it's all quite endearing, and positions Iwata into in the role of a "good guy" boss/ex-boss.
What's strange about it is the way Sakurai reacts. He never calls Iwata "Iwata-San", the customary sign of respect for an elder. He makes some token compliments about the Wii and Wii Sports and Wii Fit, but none of them seem particularly genuine. Mostly Sakurai just tries to change the subject after every compliment he gets from Iwata. It reminds me of times ex-girlfriends have called me and said "Didn't we used to have fun together? I think you're so cute! Do you think I'm cute?", with my only options for responses being statements like "I always though Gizmo from Gremlins was cute, but also sort of disgusting. His lips and nose were so god damn shiny all the time. Why was his muzzle always so wet? Do you know?"
It comes to a head in the interview when Iwata pretty much goes berserk. It's a total love avalanche. Quoteth Iwata- "My thoughts on expanding the gaming population, targeting gamers age five to ninety-five or refusing to think of gamers in terms of age, sex or gaming experience…I think the roots of the ideals I espouse are tied to our experience together, and I feel they were inspired by you." Wow.
Sakurai's response? "Speaking of shared roots, we were both surprised in regards to the similarities between the direction of the Smash Bros. Brawl network and the Wi-Fi connection proposed by Nintendo." No "Thank you." No "I love you, too." Not even a "Yeah, I learned some stuff from you also... I guess." Just a quick "Oh really? That reminds me, we both like ham sandwiches, don't we? Lets talk about that instead."
Am I reading too much into this, or does the dynamic between these two have a Fatal Attraction flavor to it?
I think Sakurai likes Nintendo alot more than the interview made it seem, he just doesn't like what Nintendo is doing with the Wii, which is understandable. Coming from a guy who's friends with the creator of one of the most politically plot driven games of all time, I'd be slightly resentful at the Wii too.
I don't think Sakurai is against "the new Nintendo" so much as he seems to think the old and new can co-exist and supplement each other. That seems to me to be a pretty reasonable belief and Sakurai is a reasonable and visionary guy.
What I was going to say was in the first interview they also "joke" about how Iwata announced that Sakurai and Nintendo were getting back together at E3, before he Sakurai even knew. Sakurai seems genuinely freaked out.
It was like Iwata told everyone that he an Sakurai were going to the prom together, but didn't ask Sakurai first. Then all the girls came up to Sakurai in school the next day and were all like "Oh, that's so totally awesome that you and Iwata are back together again! You must be like so totally happy! He's a cutie for sure, I wish he'd let me french with him some day. You're like the luckiest girl in school!" and Sakurai had to go along with it or else he wouldn't be cool in school anymore.
Even though we're about to get a new Smash Bros., I can't imagine another game without Sakurai's direction. He just has so many tiny details and ridiculous stats that I'm not sure someone else could pull it off.
Considering Japanese culture, the responses that Sakurai gives do seem a little disrespectful. On the other hand, Iwata almost seems to be belittling Sakurai with the -kun suffix, so I can understand where the tone is coming from. That and the fact that Iwata made the announcement at E3 that there would be a new smash bros w/o even talking to him about it, and then saying in the interview that he would've done it anyway. As chummy as these two may seem to us, I think don't like each other very much at all.
think about it, brawl is going to make SHIT TONS of money, a mountain of untold riches for nintendo. of course the president would suck up a little bit. wouldnt you? sakurai is the golden boy of nintendo at the moment.
I've worked with Nintendo indirectly, and what you have to understand is that when you work for Nintendo you are part of a collective design philosophy, in a strange way you are not you're own man. If you are young or just don't get this at the time, then Nintendo can seem suffocating for certain designers.
It sounds like Sakurai joined Nintendo when he was young, then wanted to move on to more individual personal projects where he was able to express himself more, I think this interview reveals that now Sakurai is older, liberated and more assured about himself as a designer, he kind of sees Nintendo as a strict parent. Truly I think that Sakurai feels like he has moved on from Nintendo and he's only doing Smash Bros. for the fans.
I maintain that Nintendo are still the most misunderstood entertainment company in the world, customers 'get' their products but many designers do not 'get' why or how they make those products.
All joking aside, I do think these guys have a pretty complicated and interesting relationship.
Sakurai started working for Iwata at HAL when Sakurai was 19. He has been under his thumb for a long time, and even though he probably likes and respects Iwata in some respects, he is probably dying to separate from the guy and just do his own thing.
Iwata, on the other hand, wants to keep Sakurai as close as possible. On some level Iwata probably thinks Sakurai is better than him. So out of complex combination of fear, greed, and genuine admiration, he keeps sucking him back in. .
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Aw, Sakurai's just playing hard to get. That fiesty little minx!
Hot.
Everytime Iwata said " I see " in that interview I kept imagining in his head he really meant "I want you."
@Cheeburga
That comment + avatar made me lol
Sakurai is but a wee lad
Ok, the "wow" link made me laugh. A lot.
I think you absolutly hit the nail on the head I completly agree that there is some tension between Iwata and Sakuri
If only I could say what I really think without getting flamed by Nintendo freaks.
I think Sakurai likes Nintendo alot more than the interview made it seem, he just doesn't like what Nintendo is doing with the Wii, which is understandable. Coming from a guy who's friends with the creator of one of the most politically plot driven games of all time, I'd be slightly resentful at the Wii too.
What Stonedfox said.
Reading waaaaaaaay too much into it. But it's fun I guess.
If I were Iwata, I'd be trying to please Sakurai as much as possible too, since he's making the big Wii game of the first half of 2008.
Underlying sexual tension? I think so! Check out Iwata's quote from the first volume:
"So, during that E3, I invited you to my hotel room and told you what I was hoping to do."
Can't get much clearer than that.
wow...thats ll i say is wow
HAHAHA, Zeke.
I don't think Sakurai is against "the new Nintendo" so much as he seems to think the old and new can co-exist and supplement each other. That seems to me to be a pretty reasonable belief and Sakurai is a reasonable and visionary guy.
Oops. empty post.
What I was going to say was in the first interview they also "joke" about how Iwata announced that Sakurai and Nintendo were getting back together at E3, before he Sakurai even knew. Sakurai seems genuinely freaked out.
It was like Iwata told everyone that he an Sakurai were going to the prom together, but didn't ask Sakurai first. Then all the girls came up to Sakurai in school the next day and were all like "Oh, that's so totally awesome that you and Iwata are back together again! You must be like so totally happy! He's a cutie for sure, I wish he'd let me french with him some day. You're like the luckiest girl in school!" and Sakurai had to go along with it or else he wouldn't be cool in school anymore.
This game is so fucking epic I can't believe it.
Even though we're about to get a new Smash Bros., I can't imagine another game without Sakurai's direction. He just has so many tiny details and ridiculous stats that I'm not sure someone else could pull it off.
Considering Japanese culture, the responses that Sakurai gives do seem a little disrespectful. On the other hand, Iwata almost seems to be belittling Sakurai with the -kun suffix, so I can understand where the tone is coming from. That and the fact that Iwata made the announcement at E3 that there would be a new smash bros w/o even talking to him about it, and then saying in the interview that he would've done it anyway. As chummy as these two may seem to us, I think don't like each other very much at all.
This better not be the last game in the series.
Also, too much reading into it, but it made me laugh.
Volume 3 should have a knife fight. That would be sweet.
Awkward
The Sakurai just wants things a little closer to how things used to be is all. You gotta respect him for that.
Iwata probably molested Sakurai back when he worked at Nintendo.
think about it, brawl is going to make SHIT TONS of money, a mountain of untold riches for nintendo. of course the president would suck up a little bit. wouldnt you? sakurai is the golden boy of nintendo at the moment.
Um, I dunno why but I'm picturing "Graviation" as I read this. Ok, that could be.. um I can't say any more.
I've worked with Nintendo indirectly, and what you have to understand is that when you work for Nintendo you are part of a collective design philosophy, in a strange way you are not you're own man. If you are young or just don't get this at the time, then Nintendo can seem suffocating for certain designers.
It sounds like Sakurai joined Nintendo when he was young, then wanted to move on to more individual personal projects where he was able to express himself more, I think this interview reveals that now Sakurai is older, liberated and more assured about himself as a designer, he kind of sees Nintendo as a strict parent. Truly I think that Sakurai feels like he has moved on from Nintendo and he's only doing Smash Bros. for the fans.
I maintain that Nintendo are still the most misunderstood entertainment company in the world, customers 'get' their products but many designers do not 'get' why or how they make those products.
All joking aside, I do think these guys have a pretty complicated and interesting relationship.
Sakurai started working for Iwata at HAL when Sakurai was 19. He has been under his thumb for a long time, and even though he probably likes and respects Iwata in some respects, he is probably dying to separate from the guy and just do his own thing.
Iwata, on the other hand, wants to keep Sakurai as close as possible. On some level Iwata probably thinks Sakurai is better than him. So out of complex combination of fear, greed, and genuine admiration, he keeps sucking him back in. .
Share the love, people, share the love!
Yay.
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