10:35 AM on 06.12.2008
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Check the storage space on your Wii. It's not looking so hot now, right? With only 512mb of on-board storage, all of our Virtual Console downloads are feeling squished under the weight of these new WiiWare titles, and Nintendo still has yet to offer a new storage solution. This is something some of us have been complaining about from day one, and I'm sure Nintendo knows how we feel by now. Nintendo of Europe doesn't seem to think much of our cries, though. According to their Laurent Fischer, NoE's marketing director, the only gamers that want this additional storage are "geeks and otaku." This quote comes from WiiWare launch coverage in Edge magazine. Sure, right now it might only be "geeks and otaku" that worry about the limited storage space of the Wii. Give it time. Soon it will be the millions soccer moms and dads that can't figure out why their latest download won't fit on their console. And then the kids will bitch. And then the calls to Nintendo will start. And then we might get our increased storage. Maybe. Are you one of the "geeks and otaku" that need this storage? Do you think Nintendo is overlooking a potentially serious problem? [Via Game|Life]
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My geek/otaku-ness is verified.
I guess I'd fall into that geek demographic.
way to just insult the hardcore fanbase that was pretty much your only backbone in the console war last generation. The fact is when they designed the Wii they had no fucking clue that there would be Wii Ware, and the whole "delete it to redownload or put it on an SD card" is not only inconvenient, it's fucking annoying.
The lack of storage space is one of the main reasons that my Wii sits on a shelf collecting dust. I long ago used up the available space.
If I bought everything that I wanted on wiiware and the virtual console then yes I'd be screwed. Fortunately, no make that unfortunately I don't have the cash to do that so I'm not running out of space just yet.
I have never understood Nintendo's mindset about technology. They kept the Nintendo 64 cartridge based because they thought video games didn't require the cheaper, easier to produce, larger capacity CDs that the PS1 and Sega Saturn used. Then they didn't put internet capability into the Gamecube because they didn't think the public was ready for internet gaming yet. Then they go and don't put a large amount of storage capacity in the Wii because only "Geeks and Otaku" want it.
I would say that they are a little "disconnected" from the gaming community, but that can't be the case because the Wii and DS sell like hotcakes. So what gives?
Ran out of space months ago.
you'd figure the people who don't know squat on the system would be crying more than the "geeks and Otakus".
oh wait....i'm right. Cause most "Geeks and Otakus" are too busy playing a system with a hard drive or a decent size memory card.....or games that don't take 6 fucking months and beyond to be released.
What gives? "geeks and otaku" are idiots. There is no other explanation for their continued support of the wii, if somebody called me a "geek" I would jam a pencil on his eye, not buy more crappy Wii games and games I can emulate and store on my 500gb hdd for my computer.
You're fucking kidding right?
Like, I mean really? They're even passing up a chance to make easy money with a stupid comment like that- if you won't give us additional HDD space for a small fee, at least let us use our fucking memory cards to hold more than pictures.
And 'geeks and otaku'? Looks like they're going the right way with their marketing, especially with the whole "casual only' bullshit.
What the hell is an Otaku doing with their Wii that requires a lot of memory? Was there a Naruto game for the Sega Master System or something?
Wow, what an asshole. I mean, I don't even know what an Otaku is, and even I want more space on the Wii to be available.
This is absolutely ridiculous. I didn't think it was possible to be this out of touch with the consumer. Way to insult those who kept you afloat during the gamecube era. Fire that bitch!
This is a colossally dangerous position and attitude for any Nintendo subcompany to take on. There are literally thousands of people begging to give them money for what is practically nothing -- extra empty space -- and they insult them?
Really, there's no reason for this attitude except corporate culture (a word you can't spell without "cult") Some moron up top he didn't really feel like it was all that necessary, and now every loafer-licking lackey beneath him has to espouse the same idea, only more and more vitreously as it's passed down the corporate evolutionary ladder like a contagion.
Nintendo could really give a fuck less. They sleep on piles of money. All of them do. Its one of the perks you get. As soon as your hired you get a queen sized bed made out of money with a big "Welcome to the family" card. Its part of the orientation process for new employees. Look it up... I'm not lying.
@007
Play No More Heroes? Travis was an Otaku aka person who spends his time watching anime and reading manga, with a lack of a real social life.
I'm a geek and an otaku :D YAYAYYAYAYYAYAYYAAYAY
I'm a geek who ran out of Wii memory a long time ago, but I still don't think the issue is as prominent as people claim it to be.
Sure its inconvenient but it won't stop me from downloading every VC or WiiWare title I want. All I want Nintendo to do is allow us to play our VC games off our SD cards. Then I will be a happy.
Furthermore I do NOT want a hard drive, that opens the doors for a slew of DLC abuse and lets developers cut corners because they know they can patch their games later... I hate that kinda stuff.
Yep, pretty much hit the nail on the head.
Since I don't play my Wii anymore...I'm good on the space.
What the fuck is WRONG with the people in charge of the European branches of the big 3?
They say the dumbest things.
They have zero clue. Nintendo has lost at least a hundred dollars from me since the beginning of the year. And who knows how much they will continue to lose?
I've spent at least that on Virtual Console titles, but once I filled up my memory card, it came down to this:
I'd be on the Shop Channel. I'd find a game that I would want to download. It would then tell me that I didn't have enough space. I'd log off and go back to the main menu. I'd go through 3 more sub-menus to get to my sytem memory. I'd spend 5-10 minutes trying to decide what game(s) I wanted the least. Another 1-10 minutes backing it up onto my SD card. Then I'd have to get back to the Shop Channel, and find the game again, and then purchase it. Which is inconvenient anyways as I have to input all of my credit card information every time!
So, twenty minutes later I finally have my purchase. Except that's too much work for me. I just opt not to buy. And they lose money in the process. I do not already have all of these games on my PC, yet still I'm willing to pay for the convenience of having them on my Wii. Except they make it completely inconvenient. So, I'll keep my money and they can keep their lame "geeks and otaku" jokes.
I can't be the only one in this boat. So they're potentially losing millions (not even counting the profits they'd make by selling the storage solution itself). So, the hell with them. I can get my computer to spit out NES games to my projector at 1080p anyways. So, the heck with Nintendo and their Virtual Console.
I'm definitely a "geek and otaku". 512MB is ridiculous, and Nintendo knows it.
im a geek and i dont need extra storage.
ofcourse im also a poor piece of crap.
that guy obviously doesn't play his Wii a lot...
I'm Boycotting the Wii until Nintendo listens to us.
This is simply a poor business decision, plain and simple.
I had to start deleting shit back when Paper Mario was released...
Only geeks and otaku want real games on the Wii too :P
He makes it sound like beig a geek or an otaku is a bad thing. Douch should know its geeks and otaku's who buy his products once the casuals have found something else to take their attention.
Further proof that Nintendo is not only abandoning the hardcore gamers that
1) Made em what they are
2) Kept em alive on their rainy days
Not only that they are all out saying "Fuck you, we don't need your money you stupid nerd". Go ahead Nintendo, laugh it up, you think you can distance yourself from the "geeks and otakus" cause your stupid inferior machine got its 15 min on popular culture which is akin to winning the lottery, I will lmao when, not if but WHEN, you fall flat on your ass, only this time there won't be anybody to bail you out.
Enjoy becoming the new Sega, I surely will.
Yeah, I'm both, and I want more storage, but I'm sure I know people who aren't that want it to.
What a shitty thing to say.
Wow Nintendo. Just wowwww.. Call me what you will. I don't feel too insulted by company PR full of arrogance and stupidity that probably never forsaw ever having enough REAL GAMES in order to need more than what a TOY can hold in terms of storage. Cheap douche-y company is full of cheap douchebags. Also, maybe Nintendo should play some of their own Brain games to regain the IQ points they've lost so as not to forget their customers that made them a success. Go suck on some pokeballs, is that an insult or a compliment? I'll let them figure that one out.
Geeks being people who normally play computer games. Yeah as a game company you want to ignore those people as much as possible.
I won't buy Wii Ware titles because of the storage problem. If they don't want my money, then that's fine, Microsoft can have it.
Laurent Fischer is obviously an asswipe.
Funny, I don't recall a lot of content on WiiWare that caters specifically to geeks and otaku (fanboys and die-hard fans excluded). If anything there should be more such games available right now.
I can't way to see them backpedal that statement.
Bunch of dumbasses
So, how long until we have an organized assault on Nintendo's call-center about how "them videa games ain't fittin' anymore"??? The key is to sound "casual" though.
Is there an idiot dumb enough to still believe they have the core gamers' interests in mind at all?
Wow...
I love Nintendo, but I just lost a lot of respect for them...
HEY DALE, WAY TO MISLEAD EVERYONE! KUDOS.
It's not Nintendo who said this, its Nintendo of Europe. You know, the place that gets shafted on all releases because most people forget its there, much like Cananda. NoE, not NoA or Nintendo.
I bet we see a usb HD or SD storage by years end. Especially with the VC and WW downloads.
Nintendo its Nintendo regardless of the flavor. If Nintendo Japan disagrees let em bitchlap their Europe division seeing how its probably their slowest and lowest performer anyway and "restructure" their asses out of there along with a public apology.
Otherwise this affects ALL Nintendos regardless of regions.
To me, it doesn't matter if it is NoE, NoA or NoJ.. So far besides some matlockery (in discovering an open job position with USB prequisite) so far noone at nintendo has talked about the storage situation except this "marketing director" person. I'm sorry, maybe I'm too grumpy today or something, but, I can't believe Nintendo wants/expects everyone to buy into WiiWare and the larger game sizes and sit around and swap game files all day long, or redownload stuff. What happens when my Internet is gone for awhile or I'm travelling with my Wii? I have a Flash Cart carrying case, but the cards still fall out and slide away from me. Grr. Nothing personal, but that PR guy sucks pokeballs!
No doubt, he does. And after reading up a little more on this, this is a rumor up on gonintendo a few days ago. either which way, NoE doesn't mean anything, and to a bigger extent, that guy really needs to think before he speaks.
Well seems like a lot of people in the industry in Europe need to think before they speak. Or maybe they shoud just shut the hell up and use all the time they spend talking out of their ass to make things actually happen over there.
I gave up on my Wii when I ran out of memory...
What a dick. I mean, it's Nintendo of Europe, so who gives a shit? But still, that is a fucking moronic thing to say. I mean, it's somewhat true, but he says it as though we really don't matter. "Oh, those hardcore nerds are the only ones who want that. They're in the minority." Um, Mr. Laurent, it's the geeks and the otaku who have made Nintendo what it is today. Don't bite the hand that feeds you and, yes, we're the fucking hand that feeds your bloated, overpaid ass.
Nevermind the fact that last generation's Xbox had several gigabytes of storage space built in. It's a bloody joke that Nintendo is still thinking in megabytes. And the worst part? There will be no boycott. No outrage. Just fanboys and casuals sucking up whatever shit Nintendo throws on their plates. Oy.
So... they basically want to toss the people with the time to play their games, the desire to try out new things, and the disposable income to buy a potential assload of games straight out the fifth story window. Hmmm.
I see loads of fail in their business strategy, unless Nintendo's eventual goal is to become King of the Gimmick Machine.
Replace 'Geeks' with 'Gamers' and that would be mostly true.
Dear Nintendo,
Fuck you too.
Hugs and kisses,
MechaMonkey
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